Guild Wars 2

Deathdom.8250:

So what prompt their return anyways? First time I’ve seen a guild that leaves during a exodus and come back later. Well either way, grats on getting one of your former guilds back.

To be honest I reckon there will be more movement out of those overstacked t1/t2 servers over the coming weeks when (if?) this new system starts up. Hopefully CD and SBI get some love.

Evilzara.6378:

runeblade.7514:

Dear BP and AR, beat SBI’s butt next week.

Dear Ehmry, beat SoS because we had a guild transfer there.

New matchups not happening next week. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups

Being on SoS I would love to have a go at Ebay (can’t remember ever playing them before) but you guys are only 1 rating point ahead of SBI atm so you need to make a push last 24hrs to make it happen…

Not happening next week

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups

At the moment BG, JQ, TC and DB are marked as full. I wonder if those servers might have enough people in there already? Especially as T1 and even more T2 matchups seem to have been pretty competitive lately.

JaeKeun.5680:

Raven Paradox.1860:

In reality, I hope RE goes to a lower ranked server so we can see some new servers make it up to the higher tiers. Joining an already stacked server just makes the game uninteresting. This patch was badly needed just so we could get some new faces. Having servers gain a guild that isn’t a “WvW server” makes things more interesting for everyone.

Yes, having a bandwagon guild join a lower tiered server so that they can inflate their rating and then leave them hanging in a tier they don’t belong in when they bandwagon off again in a couple of months is a stellar way to go about things.

Please Rethesis, don’t even consider any low tier servers. Stay in an upper tier where bandwagoning doesn’t screw with an entire server once you need to go get your fix somewhere else.

Good luck wherever you go (hopefully T1 or T2).

From tomorrow there are no tiers. EBay (where you post from) actually has a chance to play SoR and BG next week.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/New-matchup-system-official-info/page/8#post2094399

Wintuo.1356:

So, not to go off topic too much. I’m just a regular member thats been with RE for almost the entire time GW2 has been out. I’ve seen comments such as server hopper or bandwagon guild get tossed about from a select few in this thread. RE’s history comprises of Game release-December on Darkhaven. Then we were one of the first to make the transition to Kaineng, December till well the Present actually. That is our history, so we give the servers we’ve been on more than enough time to decide if it would be our home. That search didn’t end where we hoped so that is what led to this thread, the search for home.

Of the transfers RE and FBA are just about the last of the transfers that came to Kaineng and we fought hard to make our stay on Kaineng work long after the other guilds left. In regards to anyone on Kain feeling betrayed by a promise made long ago, if you were in our shoes and the choice was between upholding a promise and losing your core players, or moving to where your core players will be happy, what would you have decided? To all those selling your servers WvW to us, might I advise you to be selling your community as a whole instead, all the recruitment threads have been out for us to see, we want to see more than the normal copy paste sentiments.

P.S. Read in a nonchalant tone cause there isnt a lot of anger or rage intended by my post, just stating facts that needed to be adressed.(would have quoted ppl I’m referring to but that would make my post even longer so….)

I like what you say here. I’ve been to top of T1 and back with SoS and am very happy being here now without the competing egos that can develop from trying to stay on top in WvW (and you can see in T1 matchup threads and from some of the comments here).

Make sure you look at the different matchup threads here as well as the different server websites. How people react to wins and losses next week too will be enlightening.

Some information on when we find out the new matchups would be helpful.

A mid-tier server like SoS has a >5% chance of facing anyone between about Tarnished Coast and Anvil Rock, and a >1% chance of facing any NA server except those currently in T8 (according to those calculations done https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/New-matchup-system-official-info/page/8#post2094396).

Crazy times next week.

WIGZ.8245:

BG. DB or FA if you want to stick around Tier 2. Tier 1 wise, BT made BG their new home and it’s been good thus far. JQQ and SoR zergs everywhere, more fights, more fun.

WIth the new matchup system tiers are going to be a bit meaningless and rankings are going to move all over the place. Guilds thinking of moving should find a server that has the community that suits them rather than looking at just who is currently in T1, T2 and so on. WvW gameplay in mid-tiers is different to the superstacked T1 servers, and some worlds have more PvE/PvX guilds.

Personally I would wait for a week at least to see how the new matchup system pans out before making a decision to move.

ArtC.1827:

Poor Ken, bringing logic into this discussion. Good luck, buddy.

I think he’s doing a great job.

I am hugely looking forward to this system starting just so we can see how this plays out.

Ulion.5476:

I can tell you now Kain lost over half of its guilds and is able to compete in t3. So if Kain gets matched up against any t2 server or above it would be a blow out. When Kain was at full strength (maybe 12 guilds) it was not able to compete with BG before it moved up to t1 and BG stomped everyone in t2 by 100k. As Kain was falling to t3 we still had around 9 active WvW guilds now we are down to maybe 4 WvW guilds. So the differences between t1, t2 and t3 are HUGE.

As previous posters have mentioned, Kn is most likely to play against a T3 server, somewhat likely to play against a T4 or T2 server, and very unlikely to play against a T1 or T5 server.

Pixelninja.6971:

Scoreupdates from the future.

Bit arrogant much.

Some are making SoR a bit of a big target…

Zen.8497:

Actinotus.6410:

Zen.8497:

The guilds will not transfer from stronger to weaker servers because they already are part of a community and they still want to win.

It is happening all the time now and has since the game started (HoD). Just because you are in a T1 server doesn’t mean guilds won’t transfer elsewhere.

Yeah, the guilds have always moved to the servers based on community and/or had the best chances to win and become the new #1.

Well we agree with that. Which is why I think we will have people spreading out a bit which i reckon is a positive.

And having been through the rise of SoS being #1 ain’t eveything. Brings its own problems.

Sleepyy.1598:

Any T1 server would stomp T2 and below. You can thank JQ for initiating the stack wars and causing such a difference between the 2 tiers.

Well we will have a chance to find out. I am sure DB, TC and FA will have something to say about it.

Zen.8497:

The guilds will not transfer from stronger to weaker servers because they already are part of a community and they still want to win.

It is happening all the time now and has since the game started (HoD). Just because you are in a T1 server doesn’t mean guilds won’t transfer elsewhere.

Aurust.8961:

JaredKincade.9761:

What everyone is forgetting, is that the ratings will adjust basted on the relative ratings of each opponent just like it does now.

So lets take an example here. SOR vs TC vs Mag One server from each Tier.

Projected ratings for next week are:

SOR 2214
TC 2000
Mag 1830

The ratings are so far apart that SOR would have to CRUSH I mean destroy both servers by 150k+ rating for SOR not to lose rating. This gives Mag and TC a chance to gain rating if they push hard, because they will gain and SOR drop if they put up any sizeable resistance.

Then, when that week is over, the new ratings will be used to calculate the next week (plus the random generator).

What this means, is the underdogs of each matchup have a huge handicap where rating is concerned. They don’t have to beat the higher rating server, they just have to put up a fight, and the ratings will adjust.

Which server folds after the first weekend? Which servers fight tenaciously every day despite being outmanned? Those servers who keep matches as close as possible will find themselves shooting up the ladder. The higher rating servers that grow too complacent in their 50k leads will find themselves losing rating.

All in all, I think its a GREAT idea, and WvW would be MUCH better off it was done six months ago, however, better late than never.

Now we just need a way in game, so the WvW noob/pug can see that fighting against overwhelming odds helps their server gain rating, even if they may be losing by 100k points. Like an MOS rank projector built into the WvW interface.

Last time TC fought SOR we beat them by 300k…… a much much much much much weaker version of what SOR is now. Think about that.

Sure but how would TC go against JQ? TC has also become stronger since you have moved into T1 (ages ago now).

loquacious.2915:

Aurust.8961:

Jski.6180:

Deyja.6745:

Sunspots.9861:

Anet: “Is Kaineng better than Jade Quarry? Before we never knew, but soon they might get a chance to prove it.”

That pretty much sums up the new system. I think we’re done here.

Terrible idea, please do not implement this.

How else should it be done? Is it ok to fight the same world over and over if you do not like this?

Are you going to enjoy being spawn camped 24/7 by SOR? Literally 24/7? Atleast you have a relatively fair fight every week….. Until the entire PPT system gets changed, there is no way to fix this.

Therein lies the problem. The tier 1 servers are very good. I can’t see a tier 3 server being competitive against a tier 1.

But a T2 server certainly would be

Niim.9260:

Actinotus.6410:

Niim.9260:

I am sure the blowout matches are going to be super fun. The whole JQ vs KN quote is enough to show that ANET has absolutely no idea what is going on. No one enjoys a match-up where one or more of the teams are being steam rolled.

Looking through that list they gave the matches seem pretty competitive on the whole, and probably would have happened eventually anyway (except the one with Kn). For example:

JQ DB FA
TC Mag SoS
SBI EB YB

Likely winners perhaps JQ, TC and YB, but it wouldn’t be guaranteed and won’t it be fun finding out?

You think a match of TC vs Mag vs SoS is not guaranteed and it will be fun? Fun for who? You realize that this game is all about coverage right?

Fun for me for a start. I am on SoS and I would really like to face TC again (been a while). TC would be favourites to win overall score but that doesn’t bother me – more of a challenge. Would SoS win oceanic timezone? Probably. How close would score be between the three servers? Would Mags finish ahead of SoS?

It will be fun to battle against players we haven’t seen for a while. T4 are happy to have a break from each other I reckon.

Niim.9260:

I am sure the blowout matches are going to be super fun. The whole JQ vs KN quote is enough to show that ANET has absolutely no idea what is going on. No one enjoys a match-up where one or more of the teams are being steam rolled.

Looking through that list they gave the matches seem pretty competitive on the whole, and probably would have happened eventually anyway (except the one with Kn). For example:

JQ DB FA
TC Mag SoS
SBI EB YB

Likely winners perhaps JQ, TC and YB, but it wouldn’t be guaranteed and won’t it be fun finding out?

Otokomae.9356:

Yeah, give us 2 weeks of the new matchup system, then open Free Transfers for a short time! It’s both a terrible idea and the right thing to do, at the same time…

I think this is a great idea. There will be much less incentive to stack on the T1 servers and might see a spreading out of players and guilds.

Looking at MoS the tiers seem pretty stuck at the moment. With this new system I don’t care if we lose to higher tier servers – it would just be a nice change to play someone different.

The sample they gave used ratings from two weeks back I think, so the matchups wouldn’t be quite like that as some server ratings have changed quite a bit since then (SoR and Kn for example)

Bones.5762:

if not t2 will be a decent match i hope for u guys.

At the moment JQ, BG and TC are all full.

i think JQ would have a challenge in T2 – those T2 servers (not just DB) have had WvW guilds move into them over the last weeks.

The game is about seven months old? Really I think in another seven months a lot of servers will look quite different to what they do now. The people who are still on the starting server are becoming the minority. So while I appreciate there is still some hurt there about transfers, look at IoJ, ET, HoD, SBI, and some of the EU servers as well who have been impacted far greater than SoS.

DB and SoS are comfortably in T3 at the moment. A lot of us who were on SoS from the start have spent time here before and had lots of fun (such as those matches against TC, SoR and others). In my opinion fighting JQ became a bit of a grind in the end, especially as, towards the end, there seemed no way to beat them due to their superior SEA coverage.

And I agree that you will have lots more guilds/players moving over the coming months – and some of these will be going into DB and SoS.

Josh P.1296:

Actinotus.6410:

These guilds, with several others, were on SoS for almost 5 months. SoS did really well over that time in many ways, thanks especially to some of the people from work and atac. I was sad to see them go, but really for many GW2 is more about guild loyalty than server loyalty.

The only way JQ was going to be beaten was another server to be as stacked as they were. There seemed no way for SoS to do it, so several SoS people made a call and moved as a bloc to BG (with a few exceptions who went elsewhere, and the many who remain on SoS). I will be happy to see JQ beaten by my former SoS colleagues even if they are on BG or anywhere else.

The one thing to come from the SoS thing is that paid transfers don’t stop guilds moving. You will see more severs “imploding” (my bet is on JQ, but only a guess), and other servers becoming “stacked” (probably TC or FA but maybe even DB).

So while I think server loyalty is fine i think it is not useful to carry any bitterness to guilds who transfer. It is quite possible you will end up playing with or against them again. SoS has certainly been on both ends of it.

You failed to mention how these guilds ‘blamed’ tsym for SoS failing in WvW.

If there was tension between guild leaders it was not relevant to the statement I was making.

These guilds, with several others, were on SoS for almost 5 months. SoS did really well over that time in many ways, thanks especially to some of the people from work and atac. I was sad to see them go, but really for many GW2 is more about guild loyalty than server loyalty.

The only way JQ was going to be beaten was another server to be as stacked as they were. There seemed no way for SoS to do it, so several SoS people made a call and moved as a bloc to BG (with a few exceptions who went elsewhere, and the many who remain on SoS). I will be happy to see JQ beaten by my former SoS colleagues even if they are on BG or anywhere else.

The one thing to come from the SoS thing is that paid transfers don’t stop guilds moving. You will see more severs “imploding” (my bet is on JQ, but only a guess), and other servers becoming “stacked” (probably TC or FA but maybe even DB).

So while I think server loyalty is fine i think it is not useful to carry any bitterness to guilds who transfer. It is quite possible you will end up playing with or against them again. SoS has certainly been on both ends of it.

Pendragon.8735:

For us Yak’s Benders, what is the story here with SoS and DB. I’m not asking for any drama creation either, but rather just the very basics, did like half of SoS go to DB at some point.

Generally cultivating some rivalries can be a very good thing for a game like this, as long as people can be good natured about it, or at least here on the official forums.

DB had a few WvW focussed guilds move from the server in about mid-october. They mostly moved to SoS where they have been for the last four or five months until a week or two ago when a couple moved to BG.

This is the first time DB and SoS have faced off against each other since (although SoS is different from what it was then).

Mister Mustard.7203:

Wreckdum.8367:

gmanual.6519:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

I’m about to go to sleep, don’t you go and night cap me too hard now.

Point sailed right over your head. You should have your own server if you’re Oceanic. If you’re European you should be on a European server.

If you’re North American sleeping you have nothing to worry about because it is a North American server. Prime time will have you covered.

The only reason SoS oceanic team took everything during the night is because they had no opposition. They sit at the bottom of the scoreboard all during NA daylight hours then jack up to 600 potential points at night because they get a free sweep.

Flawed system.

You’re acting like it hasn’t been this way since launch. You can say there “should” be Oceanic servers, but last time I checked, there weren’t. You’ve had plenty of time to either 1) recruit an overnight presence to your server, 2) transfer to a server that has such a presence already, 3) quit, or 4) get over it.

The system has long been established, and it’s been said repeatedly by the developers that it is a 24 hour game. And this may come as a shock to you, but I don’t exactly see them making sweeping changes to the system because poor Wreckdum is unhappy.

It is weird seeing the “night capping” thing brought up again. WvW in these higher tiers is all about coverage.

in T1 SoS had weaker SEA/euro than JQQ or SoR respectively. JQ and BG are probably the most “stacked” servers now but even they have gaps or weaknesses (read the T1 thread). JQ especially dominant in the asian primetime (led by Foo). Main reason why they are winning at the moment.

Ethics.4519:

novi.6421:

Pinko.2076:

Check again. TC got their points this week from Mag, and Mag and Yaks are switching spots, giving TC a new red team to take points from. If TC keeps up the same pressure, they’ll be back in 2 weeks, maybe 3.

I say 3-4 weeks with way things are going, and SOS pulls it together. If not, then 2 weeks See FA vs KAIN vs TC at that time.

A lot of strong WvW guilds left SoS for BG and others. I wouldn’t really say we need to pull it together, but just balance off. We have a couple of guilds left, but with the beating we started talking the casual- WvWers are hiding at dragons and dungeons until we start to win again.

I’m predicting a fall to tier 3 or 4 then a bounce back up a tier.

SoS is doing really well considering the last few weeks and especially some are taking it a bit easy at the moment from WvW. According to MoS with the +ppt we pretty much match FA/Kn in NA and are slightly ahead during oceanic. Of course Kaineng puts up huge points during Asian timezone, and FA during Europe.

I think probably T2/upper T3 is where we sit at the moment – we’re not going lower than that for a while. Personally I would love to see an SoR/TC/SoS match.

The TC/FA thing is funny too – I always have these two paired together – although I didn’t know there was such a rivalry there.

RockonHarder.7235:

Magiofdeath.2745:

Porky.5021:

RockonHarder.7235:

So were did all the SoS guilds end up going anyways?

A large number of the “hardcore pvp guilds” couldn’t take losing 2 or 3 weeks so they transferred to Blackgate.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head, which sucks. Bandwagoners are rather lame.

i can bet all the guilds that jumped ship from Dragonbrand for SoS left for blackgate

No

[and those guilds moved from DB in early October – 5 months ago – so I think it is time to let go…]

hyyangoz.6195:

lol Server crashed and the next thing you know SoS is wining. did Anet get hacked?

Our oceanics are pretty good you know

I have TC v NS v SoS

Loving it!

(TC ahead by the way).

You Kaineng people just miss TC i reckon and are wishing them back into T2 (people still posting to last weeks T2 thread!). I suppose I have a particular fondness for SoR (SoS played them week after week back when we were in T3 and T2 and then last few weeks of course in T1).

Remember SoS came from T3 and were even T4 for a while (when TSym joined us) so for most of us being in T2 nothing new and actually a nice break from the stuff that goes on in T1 (read T1 forums). Great to play against new guilds again too.

IRSyKo.5843:

I personally would like to see Tsym go somewhere wherever that may be.

Although I understand the problems and what not, the fact of the matter is that they are a T1/T2 guild and should stay there. Maybe just go about business a little differently.

I don’t think any hardcore wvw/competitive guild would want to sink to low low tiers.

TSym are great. Strictly speaking, our other WvW/PvX guilds are “T1” also, having been playing in T1 for months.

Score by the way:

Kn 117.000 +180
FA 110,021 +240
SoS 83.226 +275 (SMC)

Next week you will have new match ups in six of the eight NA tiers (sorry T8 and T5) and with that hopefully a reinvigoration in WvW and less score blow-outs. I am hoping that T2 next week (I assume SoS/Kn/FA) will be competitive and fun. In a strange way having people move off SoS means we (SoS) can have close matchups with groups like TC and FA who we haven’t played in ages.

Jeknar.6184:

SoR is blue… BG will be red.

Last time I looked TC and SoS were red.

Two weeks time – who knows. I am not making any guesses. T1 and T2 completely up for grabs if you ask me – for green, blue AND red.

problematic.9623:

It means JQ and SoS were historically the most dominate servers in the NA bracket thanks to the hard work of their respective populations. They stayed on top longer than any previous NA bracket communities. And now JQ is the only remaining super server. No one likes a Unipolar world. Will the past server trends continue? We’ll see.

Also, server affiliation is irrelevant in GW2. The game (thankfully) generates a noticeable lack of nationalism from my point of view. The community formations are…international & multicultural. Yet, we still have slow adopters of change, “die-hards” that entrench behind traditional gaming paradigms of server pride. These types are more likely to rally to shared culture/language/nation. We see that the “traditional” gaming community is no longer competitive in a 24/7 WvW (RvR) setting. The lure of competition, or perhaps gold is stronger? Guild/clan affiliation remains as the most lucrative community structural support.

I welcome the international gaming community experience. 10/10. Would do again.

Most of the tier 1 guilds that competed from launch are still competing for/against each other?

What you have said here is really smart. I would say though that the game is greater than WvW for many (most) players, so playing on a realm with people of same language/time-zone etc is greater concern to most than trying to be up in T1/T2 in WvW.

And the servers in T1 are very unlikely to be the same in six months as they are now (only 1/8 – JQ – has been there the whole time), but i agree several of the guilds on whatever servers are there probably will be.

uberkingkong.8041:

Dude theres no competition in T1, SoR and SoS cant even take one of our towers in our lands in EB. We had SM for like 2 days now. Already toke SoR keep. Theres no competition in T1 for real. After 3 or 4 days people dont even care and just do xp camp runs all over SoR and SoS because we already won. Thats what happened last week and thats happening this week and every other week.

JQ didn’t own anything in EB a few minutes ago.

We need to accept where we are. There is a structural problem with WvW that means it will be very hard for any server to beat JQ on overall final score as it is at the moment without more (paid) transfers and stacking to a single server. Should we be doing that? I reckon not. I believe SoR SoS, then BG and KN are all pretty close in overall strength with TC and FA not far behind.

I am focussing on achieving the best outcome during the three or four hours I’m on (oceanic) and having a lot of fun during that time.

(So my advice – ignore JQ)

Most of the tiers look pretty evenly matched to me, with the exception perhaps of SBI and JQ still filtering down a bit.

I would like to play against new servers occasionally. The problem with the system you suggest as has been noted above is that you would really would have wins of well over 100000 points which really is a blowout and demoralising for the players involved.

Anet almost did the modification to the Glicko system for this week which would have made movement between tiers happen more often (so Sorrow’s Furnace quicker to move out of T8, for example, if they have big wins). Shame they didn’t follow through.

Oh, and with current system I reckon T1 and T2 aren’t changing for at least a month if scoring remain much as it is now. BG/K are too close.

I agree that they need their community managers on these forums to give the players the sense that any issues are being addressed (or not), or to explain/clarify their current plans on some issues. My guess is they don’t have enough people there are the moment to cover this?

As stated on the MoS site:

“ANet has not announced the math yet so the site will use the old formula and the ‘next matchup table’ may be innacurate.”

So SF/EB/K in T1 won’t happen (sorry guys).

I would be very surprised if we aren’t informed of the new formulas in the next day or two. It would have made sense for them to do it last week when they announced the reset.

On SoS I haven’t experienced anything different in the last week at all. Queues about the same – averaging about 15 mintues or so during Oceanic time for b’lands, and sometimes queue will seem to pop for a number of us at about the same time. We have had our whole guild able to get on there, and numbers out on the field seem about the same.

But we haven’t had any people transfer in to SoS the last few weeks unlike JQ etc. I also think more people are playing after WvW reset?

fivekiller.1432:

Foghladha.2506:

Am I the only one that sees the HUGE note at the top of the rankings screen?

“About this site
At the end of this matchup, all ratings will be reseted (set to 1,500). ANet has not yet announced the math so the site will use the old formula and the ‘next matchup table’ may be innacurate.”

Pay attention to this part… it’s kinda important.

the ‘next matchup table’ may be innacurate."

The guy who runs http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA *DOES NOT HAVE THE NEW ALGORITHM. * Until he does nothing on that page should be taken to heart.

why dont people read anymore….. they teach us how to in kindergarten….

Shaojack’s point is valid, but bear in mind.

The bad matchups aren’t due to the ratings adjustment algorithm.. The problem stems from all servers being rated at 1500. Because of this the algorithm cannot differentiate between say, JQ beating SOR by 50k points and Ferguson’s Crossing beating ET by 50k points. It would view those wins as equivalent under any algorithm based on the 1500 rating and assign the next matchup as JQ vs. ET. (this is just a fantasy example)

Unless they adjust the ratings or tiers themselves, we WILL have bad matchups and wacky tiers next week.

Or they could maybe add weighting to each tier for the algorithm to take into account, but I doubt that is the case.

it’s great to see SoR again. With the [old] system it took them too long to get into T1.

Which is why they needed to do this reset – let all the server transfers shake themselves out. The cream will rise to the top again. In the meantime it is a chance to play against other servers, especially for JQ who has never been out of T1 as far as i know and never had a chance to play against TC, SoR, FA or any of the others.

elderan.2638:

This talk about a holiday confuses me. Last time I checked, if you get the day off of work/school then you have more time to play, not less.

It’s summer in Oz – near end of summer holidays for many. Australians like to do beach/barbie/fireworks stuff.

http://www.australiaday.org.au

Best of luck to all Australian’s hit by the 6 tornadoes, I hope all your friends and families are ok, and your net connection stays stable
not only do we have a longweekend to celebrate Australia day, we fight it out vs mother nature……. well its that or some folks in bris learnt how to activate their ele elite skill IRL

Yes it’s a bit like that at the moment. if it’s not 50 degrees celcius and bushfires it’s cyclones tornadoes and flooding rains…

Azure Prower.8701:

MingYew.8521:

HAHAHA, SOS just prepare to lose and drop tier. We, JQ are sure to win and keep on crushing you no matter what. Even ppl from SBI hate you guys that they come to us and help us to crush you.

Good job JQ, we’re number one.

Edit: I forgot, even PRX come to us.

SoS has been through worse. This was SoS 5 months ago:

I have such fond memories of that matchup…

…and am so sad to now see ET ranked 24th from 24 US servers – not.

MingYew.8521:

HAHAHA, SOS just prepare to lose and drop tier. We, JQ are sure to win and keep on crushing you no matter what. Even ppl from SBI hate you guys that they come to us and help us to crush you.

Good job JQ, we’re number one.

Edit: I forgot, even PRX come to us.

Be careful of gloating before you win the thing – otherwise you could just look dumb if you don’t win.

And as others have posted, yesterday was Australia Day and so fewer aussies were on (who form much of the strength of SoS). The score will look different by the end of the weekend.

Nice to have some strong competition out there

Leo Paul.1659:

Wow so is it official? PRX left SOS?

Yes they are moving to Seafarer’s Rest (EU) – looking for new challenges. I certainly wish them well as I think all on SoS.

Thobek.1730:

Lets hope we hang in there and not drop down to T2 just yet. But a good beating is what is required.

SoS just took SMC. +ppt is about the same between all three servers atm. SoS are 15 K behind SBI and a similar margin above JQ. Match is actually pretty close.

SBI has come out hard this week and are currently leading in overall points. My guess is they felt they had something to prove after last week. But as we all know even 30K is nothing in WvW and any of the 3 servers can win this.

Twistdsoul.9504:

Actinotus.6410:

We’d be better off bringing in these people to work with us rather than alienating them..

LOL, no we wouldn’t. You must be new to SoS…. it’s Daish F F S

Actinotus know him well. But Actinotus’s comment stands – as in real life, one can ignore those who one finds a colleague annoying and even offensive if it is difficult to work with them.

And my comment is directed equally at him.

(and it is not that relevant but I have been on SoS since BWE and will always be on SoS)

Can I suggest to my colleagues on SoS that it is not helpful to call people out on a public forum like this.

SoS is doing well because we are generally working well as a team. We’d be better off bringing in these people to work with us rather than alienating them.

If someone is annoying you in teamchat put them on ignore.

OK I have no problem with a delay on reset, server downtime, or anything else.

Anet can do better at keeping players up to date when these things are happening:

“WvW and dailies will be reset later than usual due to a technical issue with the new patch. We will inform you when we have more information”

That type of thing.

Daboss.4682:

It didn’t help that KIWI transfered off the server for this matchup so what little coverage we had was even fewer and far between.

I don’t know much about that guild but I certainly know them from playing against them two weeks back. It’s unfortunate if they have moved from SoR.