I will leave this here without much commenting. Take note of the second comment down there…
“Howler is long and funny story of things being weird, but the short answer is: someone is looking into it.” – funny for who exactly….?
edit: chaos was faster c:
OK I’m not happy about Howler but I don’t think funny was made to be a joke in this context more like ‘peculiar or odd’. Getting on a Dev for semantics isn’t helping us especially when they finally seem to be giving us positive replies. I would like them to give us the satisfaction of posting here instead(or at least as well as) Reddit.. but some reply is better than none. And it actually came with somewhat of an explanation on why it hasn’t been resolved. Moving in the right direction at least.
I really don’t know what their agenda is. Maybe some rich guys are burning their own company just to kitten off people as a joke. The moderators and devs know this is happening and seem to be on our side but someone pulling strings is giving us all a big middle finger. I haven’t posted lately because I’m so disgusted that all I do lately is log on for daily rewards and log off a minute later. Then I go play DCUO and Warframe.. this lack of respect for the players that make their world is sickening. There is still hope that this gets resolved but I have hope that I’ll hit the lottery. Even if they put the night effects back the bitterness over this issue will remain because of the lack of communication and the eternity they made us wait for it. Whatever fix they do for Howler better be incredibly spectacular or it won’t properly compensate the players who have been asking for a response for years.
I feel very much like this, except that I don’t even log in anymore since HoT launched. I really, really don’t know what the responsible persons behind the scene intend with this aimed destruction of our former favourite MMO. This is beyond frustrating.
Also that rage post I made 2 days ago… normally, something like this is an infraction and would be deleted or at least censored on the same day and I should get a warning or something. Is this proof nobody at Anet even reads this topic anymore?
If this goes on I might do a sad Santa improvisation on 24th and give my stuff to everyone I encounter in LA. I still have this 240g and lots of ektos I saved up to… you know… buy Howlers Precursor.
As my last post said I do really get the feeling the Devs and Moderators are on our side. I got a few infractions for bumping the original thread a while back and maybe 1 or 2 after the merge. Though after a while it seems the Mods feel our pain and realized we’re not just crying over a non issue to be trolls, but we were really shafted by whoever pulls the strings. So now they let us rant because this is the only outlet of our frustration.
This whole situation feels like winning an Olympic competition only to have our gold medals replaced with copper and our names misspelled in the record books. We still have the proof of our efforts but all the glory is gone. Why would you want to play a game like that? Don’t get me wrong I like playing the game for the challenges and fun but the bitterness over this one issue ruins the experience. It’s like biting into a piece of pepper in a plate of food. You may never bite into another one but the distaste from that one bite messes up the experience for the rest of the meal.. no matter how good the food is.
Please, please, please Anet – have the basic human decency to at least acknowledge that your players are not happy about this, that there is an actual problem with Howler, or at least that you have seen this forum thread.
Oh they did that already. Akrasia talked to some of the devs ingame, they know about this thread here. It’s just that the higher-ups don’t allow them to answer us.
So when the post on reddit came up that they will start “looking into it” there was at least a slight chance that Howler gets (for starters) it’s night effect back. But the fact that other legendaries got “visually” fixed earlier (we know about Howler’s issues at least since early 2014…) and got some improvements noone even asked for is the reason why everyone here has the right to be more than disappointed with ArenaNet atm.
After all the Pre-Order turmoil, HoT critism, Core game nerfs, killing WvW+partly PVP and gemshop milking that happened this year, all of this Howler-ignoring is just another huge slap in the face. Why can’t they understand that all the anger is stacking over time? Just look around the forum, people didn’t complain this much ever before.
This can’t be what ArenaNet wants, right?
I really don’t know what their agenda is. Maybe some rich guys are burning their own company just to kitten off people as a joke. The moderators and devs know this is happening and seem to be on our side but someone pulling strings is giving us all a big middle finger. I haven’t posted lately because I’m so disgusted that all I do lately is log on for daily rewards and log off a minute later. Then I go play DCUO and Warframe.. this lack of respect for the players that make their world is sickening. There is still hope that this gets resolved but I have hope that I’ll hit the lottery. Even if they put the night effects back the bitterness over this issue will remain because of the lack of communication and the eternity they made us wait for it. Whatever fix they do for Howler better be incredibly spectacular or it won’t properly compensate the players who have been asking for a response for years.
Perhaps you should hold off on it until you get a higher level and/or better gear. Or get a friend to go in with you! I’d be happy to help (NA servers here).
But isn’t the Story content all level-scaled so over-leveling isn’t an option?
Yes and no. There is level scaling so you’re not completely invulnerable in lower level areas but the extra stat points and stats you get from gear still factor in. In lower levels my level 80 necro with full ascended gear is way more powerful than my other characters who are at the appropriate level for those maps. On maps less than level 40 I usually can just stand around and most things won’t kill me for 5 or 10 minutes. I’ve soloed champions on the lowest level maps. So while there is scaling you still are getting more powerful as you level and gear up.
I personally got to level 80 and had mostly exotic and a bit of ascended gear before I did most of the main story the 1st time. It still wasn’t a complete steamroll but Claw Island never bothered me.
Three ANet replies to this thread already but not a single one on the much older much longer thread regarding the now pitiful legendary that is The Howler. Depressing.
I was about to post the same thing. How is it that the same Devs/Mods couldn’t comment on Howler and that issue is over a year and an half old.
In much the same way as I have given up on ANet ever doing us the courtesy of a reply or, even better, fixing what they broke I thought I should say an official farewell to this thread as it struggles to keep it’s head above water under the deluge of HOT bug reports. Still awestruck by ANet’s failure to acknowledge this thread.
Farewell old friend … may you one day receive your just deserts!
I know what you mean. This thread is buried and still no official response. The reddit reply was nice but could they at least give this thread a comment. Say “we’re looking into it”. They obviously don’t understand psychology at all as the amount of satisfaction they’d be giving us would offset a lot of the anger over the broken Legendary.
Well I confirmed the Reddit reply is real and they are investigating what happened to the night effects. I know its not victory but it seems we’re out of total limbo. At least its something. We’ll see how long the investigation takes.
Thanks for all the private replies as well as as the reddit post.
To bad this forum got merged and moved to the bug section where it will eventually be buried because back when I created my version on the gw2 main forum section it had almost 15k views before it got merged.
On another note it’s not like the devs haven’t seen it/read it due to all the changes they have made I guess they’re just not in a place to comment.
I know that some of them are not allowed to comment and the higher ups aren’t saying anything just yet.
I’m not sure what you mean by “just yet”. The thing is this issue is so old. No offense or anything but if they were going to say something or do something about this, I think they would have done something by now.
Also the post above me makes a lot of sense. That is probably the best course of action at this point. Tho I have no idea who you would write to.
I pretty much sent a message to every dev or mod I could find and a few answered. Most are on our side and want and answer but are not even allowed to comment officially. None could give me details but at least let me know it is being discussed on some level. Unfortunately it looks like the devs and moderators discussing it have little authority to fix it or even comment on it.
As for the reddit.. I wonder if they are switching the forums over due to them being broken. Still doesn’t make sense not to comment here as well unless that was a dev in disguise. Maybe he/she couldn’t comment officially so used a cover ID to post? Has anyone else seen this dev comment on other reddit issues?
To bad this forum got merged and moved to the bug section where it will eventually be buried because back when I created my version on the gw2 main forum section it had almost 15k views before it got merged.
On another note it’s not like the devs haven’t seen it/read it due to all the changes they have made I guess they’re just not in a place to comment.
I know that some of them are not allowed to comment and the higher ups aren’t saying anything just yet.
Can some moderator please reply to this thread BEFORE we reach 500 comments…?
I’m getting so tired from the endless waiting… this is beyond anything. I never saw the community of a MMO being ignored this long in any game I played so far. Two more comments to go… will ArenaNet make it??
Edit: The forum bug just destroyed this opportunity, ugh
This was buried 6 pages into bugs before this commment I’m makeing. I guess they’re overwhelmed over there but after a year and a half people don’t have much sympathy left. I think we’d all have a little patience if they just answered us once. You’re right ShelBlackblood, No other major MMO community would get this treatment. It’s very disrespectful.
Well still have this precursor colleting dust in my bank any comment on when I can be bothered to craft it?
I say it’s a gamble. If you really need a warhorn then its ok.. disappointing compared to other legendaries but decent compared to most warhorns. You could always sell it and put the gold towards a better legendary. The gamble is they might (still hoping) fix Howler and make it awesome. Stranger things have happened.
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My personal suggestions are:
-Fix the Sound. Increase the wolf volume so its louder then the main horn.
-Fix the problem with the fog and footfalls disappearing to soon. (According to the wiki the fog has been bugged since the beginning) Make the footfalls and fog stand out more by increasing the fog volume.
-Make the wolf image bigger so its not covered by the regular skill animation (Try Howler on a necro and you’ll see what I mean)[….]
Personally I am most eager to see the night animation fixed. The weapon itself has absolutely no effects and that to me is by far the biggest disappointment.
The footsteps are very hit and miss, it also depends on the terrain as sometimes they seem to clip with the ground and are covered by it, but I can kind of live with it.
The mist aura does disappear but I think that’s a problem with other legendary auras too, i believe it was said this was due to the setting that limits particle effects(can’t remember the in-game name), so the game was culling the effect. I have found in some maps, especially darker ones, the mist aura is very visible (while it is actually there!)
The only reason I suggested they fix the other things first is that the initial removal of the night animations was to correct a bug. I have a degree in computer science so as a programmer I can imagine what they did. The endless Howl loop is happening with the night animations. All of the night animations were probably supposed to be instanced too but looped and gave it a wonderful effect that was not even supposed to be there. The error was probably in the entire loop and they just tossed it rather than reprogram it. That being said if the Devs are in the mindset of quick fixes I made suggestions that would meet them half way so at least we get something other than a year of silence. footfalls should be easy, I understand what you’re saying with the mist but those auras are around other weapons so just add extra mist to Howler’s basic skin. My point is if getting night effects bask is going to take another year and a half then fix what can be fixed the quickest. Fix Howler in stages of a couple months not a 2 or 3 year solution.
If its going to take 2 more years to get the original animations back then make new effects like I suggested earlier :
-Reshape the footfalls into big wolf paw prints (can still be foggy but please let them show up more and not disappear after 3 steps)
-Have the howl play separately each time Howler is drawn or switched in combat. (Everytime the water animation plays)
-Surround the arm of the person wielding Howler in thick hairy grey fur (Thicker than a Charr) and make the hand a big wolf claw.
OR make something new that’s Awesome. BUT Please do something.
Even worse now, the Howl collection is incompletable since you need to kill an ambient wild Bull for Vol1.
And it doesn’t exist…
I thought I replied to this already but I was thinking you should just start a new topic for this in the general discussion area as its not directly tied to Howler but it might get some attention for us anyway
Wow between HoT and Halloween there are a LOT of new bugs. This thread may get buried…
Here’s an idea.. They should offer Legendary owners a “trade in” period after the new Legendaries are released. So for example Howler owners could trade in for the new Warhorn if they want. Same for each weapon to make it fair. Maybe for the 1st couple weeks after release. Maybe with some gems or mats or something.
I would just rather have them fix Howler, which used to be one of the best legendaries ..
I would rather them just fix it too. The trade in was a more general idea but it applies here as it seems some of the other 1st gen legendaries have been buggy and not fixed as well. None as bad as Howler but this is a bigger problem than just us. Lack of a response is terrible.
Wow between HoT and Halloween there are a LOT of new bugs. This thread may get buried…
Here’s an idea.. They should offer Legendary owners a “trade in” period after the new Legendaries are released. So for example Howler owners could trade in for the new Warhorn if they want. Same for each weapon to make it fair. Maybe for the 1st couple weeks after release. Maybe with some gems or mats or something.
HOPE .. slim hope but hope. I private messaged a few of the devs as I’m sure some of you might have done (I know some of you were asking them when you saw them online) and I’ve had a few responses. Nothing concrete as most don’t have any direct authority to fix this or even comment publicly (for those who replied thank you. All I can say is the ones who replied so far seem to be on our side and agree that at the very least we should have some sort of answer.
Please keep this thread going and offer up some possible alternatives to Howler being reset to what it was a year and a half ago. I know some of you who had it early just want what they had but probably half the people on here (like me) made Howler less than a year ago and have been disappointed from the start. Any improvement would be appreciated at this point. If it takes them longer to fix it to the old version then I’m sure it will be worth it for some new improvements that don’t take as much time.
My personal suggestions are:
-Fix the Sound. Increase the wolf volume so its louder then the main horn.
-Fix the problem with the fog and footfalls disappearing to soon. (According to the wiki the fog has been bugged since the beginning) Make the footfalls and fog stand out more by increasing the fog volume.
-Make the wolf image bigger so its not covered by the regular skill animation (Try Howler on a necro and you’ll see what I mean)
Some suggestions that are not fixes but new features (which might take a bit longer):
-Reshape the footfalls into big wolf paw prints (can still be foggy but please let them show up more and not disappear after 3 steps)
-Have the howl play separately each time Howler is drawn or switched in combat. (Everytime the water animation plays)
-Surround the arm of the person wielding Howler in thick hairy grey fur (Thicker than a Charr) and make the hand a big wolf claw.
What’s ridiculous, that Howl got a new skin & it’s comparable to our current effect-less Howler ..
This is what I was most worried about with what could happen, maybe its to much of a complicated bug to fix but would at least like a not on what exactly is going on.
Well here’s to gen2 legends and hope the next warhorn is wicked…
You all know most people made Howler for 2 reasons. 1 The precursor was cheap (or else you found one and was sitting on it for a while) and 2 Most warhorn skins sucked.
Now we’re stuck with a halfway decent warhorn skin. It’s good enough that Devs don’t want to fix it BUT as a Legendary it sucks balls. None of us (or very few of us) are going to take the time to make another Warhorn. It could be the most beautiful warhorn that has Supermodels in their undies floating around it while a wad of money shot out the front, golden foot falls and sounding to The Champ is Here mixed with guitar riffs from both Jimmy Hendricks and Carlos Santana AND I still wouldn’t spend time on another Warhorn. I might stop using Howler but I’m not spending that much effort on the same weapon :P
I might make the Axe or the Staff. Both look sweet and the Axe looks like it has a really cool trail like the greatswords on a 1 handed weapon.. If the 2nd gen Legendaries are more quests then gold I’m doing one. I’m still not happy though.
…I even just skinned over my Howler with the Scientific Warhorn.. after finally getting sick of a boring legendary as of that April 2014 Feature Pack.. I actually made it for the way it was before.
Just return this legendary to it’s previous glory :/
I feel more and more sad for those of us who’ve already made the weapon. Seriously, I’m an assistant designer in my company (we make gift wraps and birthday cards), and it would break a piece of my heart if someone wrote they (more or less) “dumbed” my work because it’s not worth the time/money or whatever. From a designer’s perspective… that’s pretty sad.
I mean, does really not a single designer or concept artist read in this thread and feel slightly bad about all this? Not even one?
@Akrasia.5469
It’s nice that someone reacted, but sad at the same time that one simple “reaction” should be a good sign for the future of this whole topic. I don’t know to how many devs you wrote, but getting only one reply that’s also off-topic doesn’t sound too good, sorry for being pessimistic ._.
I’m not overly optimistic about this situation but it’s like you’re dying of thirst even a drop feels better than nothing. As an IT professional and designer myself, I’m appalled with this situation. The amount of work to give the players some kind of a fix is minuscule in terms of time and effort. The time and effort to reply even less.
I finally got someone to reply to me. I private messaged a few of the Devs and moderators I’ve seen reply to other threads. (Thanks Jon Olson for replying with the kind words). Unfortunately wrong department but at least someone at ANET cares. I wish we knew who was in charge of fixing these kinds of issues.
At least it seems we’re being heard. With 10 pages of comments you’d think we would have been heard sooner. Lets keep hoping.
That’s my feeling exactly. Ignoring this topic is worse that telling us straight up that they don’t intend to fix Howler or that we need to wait or something. They can answer us that it will be fixed in the next 10-50 years and it would be better than the silence.
Let’s be honest, it wouldn’t even take them more than 5 minutes to give us a short reply. 5 minutes. “We will fix it after HoT release” , “We will fix it in 2016” or “We don’t intend to fix it” – copy/paste one if you like to make it 1 minute, ArenaNet. I bet most of us don’t expect a good one after such a long time, but staying silent is far worse.
I don’t want to get disrespectful here, but the support team of the F2P game I play right now answers specific questions not later than 1-2 weeks after players asked them. And I’ve only spent 5 Euros on that one so far, whereas my ~200 Euros on GW 1+2 feel a bit… wasted? Instead, many of my posts even get deleted for not being constructive… Yes, I know this sounds ungrateful and a bit unfair, I got to see many good things during my Guild Wars time, but the forum support and general information policy is definively not one of those.
Salt everywhere
I really have to agree with this. I’m almost more fed up with the fact that ANet don’t have the courtesy to respond to this thread than with the sorry state of Howler which is what it was about in the first place.
If you aren’t going to fix it then just say so then we can all move on.
Stunning lack of respect for their customer. Just stunning.
You would think 10 pages of comments would warrant a dev to chime in. The team making the new Legendaries could at least say (We’re busy! Sorry).
As for fixes. I’m almost giving up on the night effects as it’s the only thing that might require real programming. I see NO reason the other issues couldn’t be fixed quickly and easily. I have a degree in computer science with a minor in computer graphics and these are minor issues. Even if they didn’t get all the effects back they could give us something. Here are some suggestions:
1 Make the footfalls last longer (that should be as simple as changing 1 or 2 numbers in the code not rocket science).
2 Make the wolf head last longer. Again all it takes is to change 1 number. For example if the code has a value of 1 for the amount of seconds the wolf stays on screen. Change the value to 2.5 (if its just an animation that auto plays with no value then you have less of an excuse)
3. Make the mist thicker and give it a wider radius. (same deal as footfalls)
4. Make howlers sound louder and last longer. A long Wolf howl would be perfect.
NONE of these things require heavy coding or lots of play testing. ALL of these things would make Howler a much better Legendary and if we got even 2 out of 4 (The howl being the most important) of these things most of us would stop complaining. If we got all 4 I’d bet this thread would disappear completely.
I’ve said it before. Fix 1 issue at a time if you’re strapped for time. It should take all of 5 minutes to fix the footfalls and the mist. 5 minutes if the wolf animation is value based and no more then 30 minutes if you have to make a new vid (not from scratch of course just editing the old one). I’m 90% sure there is a sound bite of a wolf howling that’s available for you to use instead of the crap that plays now. That’s 5 minutes to swap out the sound file. (maybe more time to reasearch and pick one than actually fixing it) I’m being generous with these numbers. This should all be fixed in an hour or 2 .. Over a year is ridiculous.
So I finished this legendary yesterday, since I had had the precursor for ages and was within striking distance on mats to finish it – why not? It is a pretty disappointing legendary though, whereas at launch it was all I really wanted.
Completing it and then using it for the first time was a very “meh” experience.
I had the same feeling. I think I had some initial excitement because it’s my first Legendary and really wanted to like it but after 3 years of work this is very disappointing.
Since I just saw the news about the shiny shiny “Hot New Legendary Weapons” …
…. I just wonder how long it will take until those will be broken and get ignored like the “old” Legendaries we have now. Really, I don’t even care anymore that Howler is only a shadow of it’s former self, but I DO care about the fact that this whole topic gets COMPLETELY ignored even though it WAS moved into the bug section, so one good guy admitted this thing IS buggy.
At least tell us you don’t want to fix the weapon. This entire topic is just absurd by now.
(the frustration gets real over here)
That’s my feeling exactly. Ignoring this topic is worse that telling us straight up that they don’t intend to fix Howler or that we need to wait or something. They can answer us that it will be fixed in the next 10-50 years and it would be better than the silence.
Did this ever get fixed? Still waiting to hear about Howler getting fixed but if they are giving a big middle finger to everyone who made a Legendary then they just don’t care about the players. This is a bad message they are sending out. I may take break from this game for a couple weeks. The frustration is too much. I’ve just been logging on for my dailies anyway.
It really does say something about a game i think when one of the only big things to strive for in an mmo has been broken for over a year.
Not only broken but ignored. This thread is proof enough that this issue is effecting enough people to warrant some attention but not even one dev reply is horrible. “We’re busy with HoT but we’ll get to it sometime after” would be enough to at least show they care about their community of players..
I’m pretty surprised something like this has gone so long without a fix. Legendaries are such a huge part of the game and its so sad to see something like this tossed out the window just like our old pal lupicus
Sad indeed. People who make Legendaries are some of the most committed to the game. Many of us took 2 or 3 years to make. That’s a lot of time an energy. Tears sweat and blood. I don’t think Howler just needs to be fixed but we should get compensation for this atrocity Hope a sympathetic ear(eye?) sees this thread someday.
BTW I’ve also send the Devs direct messages besides in game tickets. All but Jason King as his inbox was full. I’ve asked them for a simple reply. I know we won’t be satisfied until they fix Howler but even a reply will reduce some of the bad feelings around here and give us hope that they are looking into it. Most of us are reasonable and know HoT is taking their energy right now and that fixing game play bugs take priority but a response would at least show they care about the players. I encourage everyone to do the same. Talk to any Dev you see anywhere and just ask for a response.
I already faced it wont get fixed..
HoT comming.and along with that comes lots og new bugs yet to be discovered and reported..
And so devs gonna focus on the new stuff because it is “cool” and forget about old problems like this one..
It is bugged for 1 and a half year already.. so they figured we are already getting used to it.
The precursor horn is wayyyy cheaper than other precursors as well.. not because it is easy to be obtained.. but because of the state of the legendary horn itself..
So ghe whole community already adapted to this fact:
Legendary warhorn is just broken..
But still offers the easiest way to change stats and some unique effects, even if bad ones.. that is why it costs less then 50% of other precursors that actually works..
The cheapest are the Underwater precursors at under 100g each then the focus, then the torch then the mace. Howl is right up there in range with the other mid priced precursors so don’t tell me people don’t want to use it. Considering there are not a lot of good looking warhorns Howler is a top choice among people who use WH a lot. It was the deciding factor for me, that and the mist effect on my necro which works only half the time.
No one has accepted this as this thread has over 4 hundred replies and used to have over 15k views til they merged it. (Combined it probably had even more views) All it seems is that they really don’t care about the most dedicated users. The people who were willing to grind for a Legendary. This makes their whole pre launch manifesto a lie. This isn’t about players or this would be fixed.
Axe 2 needs a slight damage buff, not much and it should function similar to DS4 where you can get partial hits. One more thing to consider is a slight LF gain boost on Axe2. I mainly use Axe/focus as a quick LF generator and as a range relief weapon when I move out of melee to heal or reset. It works pretty good for this but doesn’t have the chops to be a primary weapon.
I really think some kind of compensation is in order for the amount of time and resources it took to make this legendary and the lack of attention we’ve received. I’ve actully spent money in the gem store. Maybe that’s the only thing they will understand. Perhaps we should all agree to boycott the gem store until they at least give us an answer. Ask all your friends and guildmates to consider doing the same.
This is what we want:
1 Night time effects back
2 Better sound
3 mist effects + footprints to work all the time
4 the wolf more prominent and not hidden by skill effects.
Seems ANET is acting like every other company where money is the bottom line so a boycott might be the only thing they hear. Personally not to sound elitist but people who make Legendaries need a special forum as I’ve noticed other complaining about theirs. To make a legendary weapon you need to be dedicated to the game at an above average level so why kitten on the people who are your most dedicated? That’s bad business.
Well … I logged in to post an in-game report. If you think any of those go straight to a dev. if they aren’t flagged as preventing progress in the game then you’re probably delusional.
The recent changes to The Dreamer just increase my dissatisfaction with this game these days. Why change something that no-one was complaining about and ignore all the requests to return Howler to what it was? Baffling.
GW2 is a great game but they sure don’t encourage people to play it. Still no-one has the courtesy to respond to this thread. It’s just plain rude.
I’m 100% sure the devs know about this issue. For some unknown and possible higher up / management reasons we aren’t getting info on this. I’m also sure Gaile would have responded with a post by now if there wasn’t something else going on. Of course more pressure from the community doesn’t hurt. I’m just not sure if we should wave the white flag on this issue at this point because it seems rather hopeless. Or maybe I’m just feeling pessimistic today. :-/
We can’t give up. This is almost the type of issue we should take up with customer service. Lot’s of people spent time and money (gems) to get Howler and then they mess it up. You but/lease a car with a nice shiny rims a spoiler and in your favorite color and when you get it serviced they change the rims to crappy hubcaps, remove the spoiler and paint it puke green you’d be up in arms. This is not what we worked for so it needs to be addressed. If this was done in any other thing than a video game there would be a class action lawsuit started. I’m sure they have their legal team that protected them when we signed up but this is just messed up.
I created a ingame report for this.
It says ingame that if you send a report it goes straight to the dev team.
You guys should do the same. If we get enough ingame tickets about this we might see something.
And dont forget to mention on the report that it is bugged for more than a year and that there is a topic created for a very long time with 0 feedback.
Yeah I just did the same. We all should.
BTW I use Howler on my Necro. The wolf animation gets covered up by the skill animations. Any other profession has this problem?
yeah Wolf howling animation is hardly noticeable on its own anyways, I always want them to change it to when you use a skill 2 or 3 mist wolves show up and howl around you.
Mist wolves would be cool. I’d just be happy with it if they made the wolf graphic bigger and stand out more. At least make it stay on screen a few seconds longer. The have a bow that shoots unicorns and they can’t make a wolf stay on the screen for more than a second. If everything else wasn’t broken I wouldn’t even complain but the stuff that works is weak (well the wolf covered up by the other animation is technically a clipping error). But the foot falls while not a bug is so weak (well them not working half the time is a bug I guess) and the mist …
OMG everything about Howler is bugged. I never thought it through… figured some effects were just weak and the cool effects were bugged but here’s a list of BUGS
Night time effect is gone.
Howl is not noticable (This is the only one that might technically not be a bug – still sucks)
Footfalls don’t work all the time. Sometimes if they don’t show up I have to jump to get them back
Mist doesn’t work all the time. Sometime it randomly doesn’t show.
Wolf image when using WH skills is covered by skill animations.
I created a ingame report for this.
It says ingame that if you send a report it goes straight to the dev team.
You guys should do the same. If we get enough ingame tickets about this we might see something.
And dont forget to mention on the report that it is bugged for more than a year and that there is a topic created for a very long time with 0 feedback.
Yeah I just did the same. We all should.
BTW I use Howler on my Necro. The wolf animation gets covered up by the skill animations. Any other profession has this problem?
So apparently the dreamer was updated in the last patch, some changes were made to the sound.
My jaw actually fell open when I read that, I don’t think I have seen any posts about the dreamer’s sound, yet it gets a tweak and howler gets nothing.
The frustration is real.
New dreamer sounds like someone is killing horses. Long sound effect + constant sound overlap created quip 2.0. I would not call that a good change.
Good or bad change at least its getting some attention. More than what we’ve got.
Yet another patch where they didn’t fix this. Sigh.
I know. It’s not like fixing a sound bite and a graphic skin are major game engine mechanics. Even fixing this little by little would be something. Fix the sound. Then bring back the moon a month or 2 later then fix the fog and foot falls not working half the time some time after that. At least it would be progress.
Apparently posting my frustration about the lack of attention to our plight is being responded to with forum infractions. Anyone else getting infractions? I know reading this thread a few others have noted that they did. So basically they remove our posts from general discussion where we can freely talk about this issue and give us infractions for talking about our frustration in the bugs section because it isn’t constructive criticism. So we’re not allowed to complain when we as a community see something wrong with the game?
Plz fix it, I dont want my legend looks like a prec when HoT lauched, Anet Plz QAQ.
OK my current issues with howler
1. The awesome night effect is missing.
2. Mist aura disappears like half of the time even sometimes with only a few npcs or players nearby
3. The Mist step effect is missing when paired with other legendary like incinerator, when equipped with both on my necro I can only see the fire step effect of incinerator the Mist step effect does not show up at all ( and yes I checked very carefully under high res to make sure its not just Mist step effect too weak to be seem).
Number 3 is not a bug. Footfalls do not stack or work with each other like auras. Your main hand weapon will determine the footfall. The rest are definitely issues.
True but what is a bug is that the foot falls sometimes randomly stop working as does the mist around you. That needs to be addressed.
Anyone who remembers GW1 knows there was an option to save your build so that your could quickly switch without having to go through the whole process each time you switched roles or were experimenting on a new build. Call me lazy but I’d love to be able to switch my build without spend 5 minutes swapping out traits etc. This is especially true in PvP.
Never got the hate for trinity. From a design standpoint its better to have something like a trinity to create encounters around, which can make fights much more interesting. Without its more of just an orgy hoping the dps output can outmatch the dmg received.
What would have been interesting is if they kept a trinity like structure, but allow any class to fill the roles in one way or another. This would require some creativity obviously.
Right now its just jack of all trades, master of none.
That was my point. That’s exactly what they were trying to do but the encounters they came up with were what killed the trinity and gave birth to the zerker meta. The PvE was way too easy for a speed zerk team to get through and with everyone self healing and dodging enough to survive even with the lowest defenses then there is no need for a healer or tank. With creative missions maybe a main tank or healer will be needed to overcome some missions and players will just have to adjust to it. More than likely they will make missions where everyone will have to switch to tank mode to win, or healer mode to get through and it still won’t be a trinity just DPS mission, Tank missions and Healer missions. Well I guess thats a different type of trinity.
Now that we have ROLES and harder content in HoT. We need to open up more to the playerbase. Why should every class focus on DPS? That Boring and so not creative in terms of gameplay.
Druid offers a unique approach to gameplay during raids. See it as something new, breaking the old. jesus you ppl whine and complain about stupid kitten
Remind me what’s unique about the Green Bar / Red Bar playstyle again ?
From what i can recall it’s been in every game since well….pong.
Not a very unique playstyle.
Opening up the game to more people i have no problem with, so long as they stop shifting the goalpost on what this game was designed to be.
This game was not designed to be a traditional trinity system….and so far we are coming ever closer to it. For what purpose ? Hard content, Incorporating more players ? Take your pick its as good as anyone else. However if it truly is the later, then these people need to do the proper research into a product before expecting it to be yet another Traditional MMO clone.
See, this is the thing. Guild Wars 2 wanted to get rid of the TRINITY, which resulted in the BIRTH of the super boring, uninspiring, BESERKER META. Which imo is less exciting than the age old TRINITY SYSTEM. There is a huge reason why ANET said that ELITE SPECS, are going to offer unique roles to combat in GW2. If they were fine, and the player base was fine with the ZERK META, then I believe these class changes would not be happening.
But clearly ANET and many others realize they missed their mark on letting the trinity go and incorporating something NEW. Iam not saying you need a TRINITY, but you need to offer something more than just DPS DPS DPS, STACK STACK STACK.
With the elite specs including druid’s healing role, it adds more variety to many unique players who dont want to be forced into ZERK GEAR ONLY PLS.
There was already plenty of variety to begin with.
Tell me how adding a trope of a spec is adding more ? I must surely be missing it.
Also, per forcing players into “Zerk Meta” im sorry, but no one has ever forced you to do anything of the sort. That choice is solely in the hands of players. It was your choice as a person to either conform or reject said meta. Unfortunately too many players are blind to the fact that the “Zerk Meta” is only relevant in speed clearing content and thus adopted it without understanding or knowing why its done.
So sure you may find the current “Zerk Meta” boring, but who are you to force your ideal onto others ? This is the underlying problem with the whole concept of this change. Not once was i asked if i found the Green Bar/Red Bar meta or traditional trinity boring … do i not get an equal voice ?
The thing that everyone misses is that ANET wasn’t intending to fully abandon the Trinity it intended to make a game where you don’t have to wait for a healer or tank or DPS player to be around for you to do missions. Thus in Dungeons any team of 5 can work with either a team with a Trinity style build, a pure Zerker team or an imaginative new team dynamic. Letting players change their roles with the same characters gave them flexibility. The Trinity was supposed to still happen in a way but organically not forced.
The thread for fixing Howler and other Legendaries is now in the BUGS forum. Please go there to voice your outrage of ANET not fixing items we worked so hard for.
Well I just made Howler about an hour or so ago and was disappointed to see it not doing the effects I was convinced it was supposed to have… Googled it and here I am. Wow. Um… wow. First you take 2 years to fix the bug on my Kudzu, and now I just wasted all this time and money making Howler for it to not have Howler effects. Thanks Anet you’re doing a great job as usual.
I feel your pain. Same here a few weeks ago I made Howler and after the initial excitement I realized it didn’t do most of the things it was supposed to do. Very Disappointing
I can’t find my bug thread on fixing Howler.. I guess that’s our answer folks
It’s still in this section of the forum. Someone from ANet took the trouble to move the “Howler Fix” thread from General Discussion in here too and merge it with your thread. And yet they still weren’t courteous enough to actually respond to the points made in either thread. Just unbelievable really.
Yeah I had to look at my account posts to find it. I do hope being in the bug section helps the process along.. Here’s hoping :p
I for one am kinda glad its in the bug section now. That’s the first step to getting it fixed I think. At least it will get consideration as a bug and not just seen as “player whining”.
I think if we can keep this thread going and show how much we want this fixed someone will eventually pay attention. 9 pages and counting worth of comments should cause some attention hopefully.
when i hear that about a trait the last i thing i want is that it becomes baseline!
are you crazy guys? that trait is a prime candidate for getting nerfed. why would you make it baseline? that means that first of all everybody always has it increasing the overall power of every necro without doing a thing or making any decision and also you get another trait for free or even another whole trait line.
only because its good doesnt mean its healthy for the game. people even want dhuumfire to be baseline… do you even want a choice at all? the new trait system is severely limitting our choices already. do you even want to choose anything?
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VP Is not a prime candidate for being nerfed. It doesn’t do as much as it seems unless you’re out of combat and just want to look cool. In combat is makes shroud usable to builds that are not just shroud hoppers. Also making a trait baseline adds more diversity not less. If you automatically have VP then you have 3 more traits, if not a whole new trait line, to choose from. That opens a ton more builds. Not making a trait that 80%+ of the players pic baseline is what removes diversity.
