Guild Wars 2

oh Yeah, i just think you can start push people to do better and be a real threat, a real challenge, that’s it. doing community is good for server happiness but you always want to get the people better.
For the nightcap i have no idea who he is i just checked we have like 8 people in nightshift channel that’s it

i’m sorry Ag people was my fault, we got the MAD MAD tonight

Ty again for the fun in Am garri, great fun, We had our Pvp you can have your PvDoor.

Ty Nauda for the update on your side.
The other matchup defense yes was better but there you had way more than us Dawn/Tup, the lord got banner so many times.
For new transfer no we got nobody new, Fire disbanded and some People running with a new Tag now and some other stop playing.

For the buff, i think organize, good fighting server now can really get an advantage, the problem with this matchup is FSP doesn’t have the numbers to compote with AG or AM.

The stomp are bringing a very high number of points, the first night with the buff during primitime from 7 to 11, AM did 5000 points with PPT and AG did 4200, but Ag made over 5k points with stomp, dolly,sentry while Am did 1200 with stomp,dolly,sentry.
So in primitime, stomping is really important if someone cares about points.

What i saw from the patch is Am is now not that blobby, except certain occassion and need to roaming in center of the map, group like Adac, DP, etc need more to keep the buff active and because they need more they can’t defend as before.
While i’m not happy that the buff is stats and completly destroyed GvG, i’m happy that the buff is countering a bit the blobs and i like the new center of tha map.
Now i just want to see how Ag can hold the Buff against 2 server with numbers, cuz Fsp now just can’t for the number game.

For the Ts problem i just said what happend, i’m sure that even if was someone from AM(And this we can’t know for certain) it doesn’t represent you guys and it doesn’t matter is just a little annoyance.

WALL OF TEXT INC
basically as always we start in primetime queue on Ag border, FSp was empty let’s go Am border , we start the raid, we recap the buff, basic stuff, flip some towers, we started to ram Am garri with full supply it quickly go down to 900, big group of Am player comes we wipe them in repeat mode, until slowly we lose player and they just keep coming, anyways, around that time an other commander Adda one of our main pug commander, comes in the map and start pushing for hills, i regroup my people( 25) and keep pushing for garri with battle on 2 front Am start need to split, we broke outer on garri, the commander on hills get wiped, after Am waypoints in, we regroup we keep pushing on garri, at this point all Am is on garri, we are only 28 of which some are rallybot so we down to like 23-24, and Am has every siege in garri as always, we start losing people to ballista because they hit very freaking hard, but keep fighting, Am can’t really push us too much even with way more numbers. at this points the other commander that went to hills comes back into the map( our garri was attacked).
And push back for hills, we slowly start dying on garri with siege and everything on us and we regroup again and push, like there is no tommorrow.

Garri outer goes down, we clear some siege on the inner walls and we start to finally be able to commit to the inner gate, by this time the other commander flips hills. and can come to help us.
We break Am inner garri, but there is 4-5 Ac on top of the stair plus most of AM map in one single points we push, we clear the siege but we’re dead, respawn regroup push again.
Am repairs very quickly outer first then a bit inner, we break the outer again, we break the inner, at this point we start clearing the insane amount of siege in Am Garri, mind this keep is 5 day is Am hands never got flipped.
After 3-4 min Running inside garri with constant Ac on Us, lots of Am on inner the other commander comes with what i think was about 10-15 pugs.
We kill the lord repeatly but banner ress comes straight for 5 to 10 min.
The battle keeps going inside garri for an other 10-15 while Am just keep rushing back inside, Waypoints, running inside from spawn, same stuff as always.
Hard fight because everytime you lose one they just can’t go back in.
At this points, Messager of the patch comes, tell us we have 5min, before the system will kick us out of the map. We get the cap at 95% last tick and he get ressed, we kill it again.
Killing the horde of Am trying to enter the circle few at the time we reach 70% of the cap, then with the last kill we’re able to flip garri before the patch hits. everybody is happy., ok Am maybe not but it will get flipped back in less then 15min anyways
We do screenshoot and we now remember this epic fight and struggle on Am garri.

All of this under constant Ts crash and kicking everybody out and then back in, i think we got 5-6 of this “problem” during the fights, and this “problem” happens only when we fight Am in primetime, and never had happend aganist any other server or during any other matchup without matchup, we of course have no proof and don’t care, but the situation is suspicious say the least.
TS is always stable during any other matchup or time, it might by a strange correlation but well we don’t know 100%.
I’m pretty sure that if my theory is correct is just somebody from Am that is mad and doesn’t represent Am in anyway, so we don’t particullary care.

Ty Am for the fight hope you got some fun you too.
Sorry for the wall of text i couldn’t do much less.
TL;DR.
Fight for garri, Ag took it, Am had enough people to hold it they didn’t, Patch putted a limit on the time that added to the experience.
Good WVW FUN

WOW WOW, oh my BEST WVW Moment ever, hard fight, plenty of enemy, plenty of siege, cap that didn’t finish, Banner lord, 5 days of that freaking keep with every blueprint ever dropped, Ts Keep crashing or DDOS who knows?

And then the Patch it added so much tension.

Ty Ag community, Tup, Adda, Dawn my people.
Ty Am for keep fighting, and get us loot!!! Good night

Question for Am do you guys want to play in Gold league or Silver league?
And want you about the Buff?

Good Video Troma, i miss vizunah, Am stays inside T3 stuff and doesn’t move out until full zone blob is there.

Happy to see that Adac want to GvG i guess is a bit late, Gvg from now will need to be done with buff or not and take the result as it is, Dawn will keep doing in it even with buff aganist, hope you guys will do the same. I think good tactics and good group will still prevail, but ofcourse it might be harder.

In Dawn we did intra-guild and one aganist Tup 10v10 in Pvp arena, aside from the map that are pretty bad, the lag is horrendus, like literally you lag every single match, plus gear limitation, i can run every heavy damage guardian in wvw, in pvp i do more retal damage than anything, so yeah gear limitation are pretty and the lag make it unplayble

Well if the waypoint will be finally fixed so that you can’t waypoint while underattack that’s a start, keeping suiciding on the lord to ress him and is the same tactics that tried to fix on Tpvp, the game highly incosistant. For now is still number beats skill, keep it Anet, the game yet no death need a bit more bad stuff to kill it completly

@Kamikaze Yes will have fun between gandara and ag as always, with AM we have to see how many Multi-map Blob they have lately is literaly 60 man on the wall aganist 20-30 and they still not push till they reach everyone on the map on one point.

@Kamikaze no Am pls for Ag, less possibile

No to stat buff, WvW is already too much imbalance and with an high power creep, don’t kill it pls.

Bump for Fsp, keep it up guys!

+1 on everything you said

I don’t know i think you guys should know, i think FSP lost only the vanguard and that’s it correct if i’m wrong, unite the people, run open mic, get everybody on a better level, keep pushing the pugs to became guild member, you can’t have a community without LOTS OF ENERGY PUT INTO IT.
It will be hard but you can do it without problems!!!!

CMON FSP, Unite your community, you lost Fsv, Ag long time ago lost Fury then Kiss they were way bigger the the vanguard. Don’t go negative, you can rally your people, keep fighting and have fun!!!
You got so many amazing guild that always bring a fight, Kale, AoA, Dw,Punk.
Keep doing what you know best: FIGHT!

Amazing fights in FSP border, ty for the fight
Ty AoA for bringing always a fight and never give up
TY Am for the action.
You can watch them here
http://www.twitch.tv/shabanezzi/b/460892959

Dawn is looking for Gvg scrim or official we don’t care, hit me up

Good fight with Gck, a bit too much at the end for us, with the 2 groups, Nice with Troma, hope you keep doing the good work, because we saw WAY TOO MANY guild running way from us tonight and only when it was full map aganist Dawn they stayed.

Only exception GcK good fighters that stayed even after few wipes, get like 4 elementalist and 3 necro and you’re ready for GvG

Vizu is much better of what I was excepting, yes the number are big, yes there is skill lag, yes we no have T3 ever, but there is something to fight always.
Sometimes is a bit too much but sometimes is just enough to push you to the limit.
As Tup said, i was excepting people staying in towers and never coming to fight but i fought way less Ac this week then like when we fight AM or Riverside.

So in the end i’m pretty happy of this week, i think with a bit of less skilllag we would get more epic fight and more very close and tight fight.

No stats bonus /15char

Ok the thread got a bit heated like always, i think the thread got derailed when wemil started claming PPT while vizunah is fight one of the lowest ranked server they every faced.
The AG started to anwser that, more heat on the thread then Mafius clamied PPT again, and he got anwser back and more heat back.
Then blacksmoke came back with Karma train stuff.

You can easyly see a cycle of claming superiority with PPT, AG and kodash can’t compete with Vizunah, they are different server, are near the lowest that vizunah every faced, you should except AG to recruit every single Pve player in the server and flood the maps at all hours, no is not going to happend, like vizunah didn’t happend overnight, is the work of months, energy of people, and i personally respect that, because i know how is difficult.

Bottomline, you come to the forum and claim PPT, you’re going to get Heat and flameback.

I’m some of ours anwser, offended you i’m sorry it wasn’t inteded, i type what i see, i saw number, i typed numbers that’s it.

@Troma uhm midnight you say i’ll see if i can run that late, it will be a pleasure fight you guys

Of course Troma, This is just my first impression of Viznah, i would be very happy to find a strong guild group to fight aganist, i played a total of 8 hours in WvW in this match and while i found 2-3 small group (3-5 people) doing good strategy work for Vizunah, that’s it.
Anyways an other 4 days to play will see what Vizunah throw at us.

My point is for now i haven’t seen that strong guild group, i’m sorry we call the raid earlier than Tup so we couldn’t fight you guys of GCK.
When it is that you guys run again in the week?

Well there is still no challenge when the number are close, if Viz is sleeping is not my fault, Ag can judge Viz only what we seen, for it was pretty weak aside the massive numbers.
While i’m trying answer your question with respect and argument, you just leave troll bait left and right.

Well sometimes if you fight Augury or underworld when the number is similar, you can still feel the pressure or some kind of challenge while on vizunah there is none, on vizunah the challenge became when the start havin 1:1:8 or near 2 times your number and you can start feel the pressure, so yes we’re measuing skill like that.

Everybody can get an idea of how strong is a group, while fighting that group, is too hard. Also you easly see mistakes of enemy commander and get an idea of their strategy skill level.

+1 on everything Dranul said

Well there is a wide spread of truth with something in the middle, the thing you need to understand is try to get piece by piece of voice of the Gvg community to understand who and what they want before judgeing.
Is important to don’t present flawed argument, to keep the conversation about content not Single point of view without any basis.

Oh man, kodash didn’t you know because we don’t have a server stacked like not tommorrow, as a server in position 9 and 13 we should 24/7 no sleep week because we vizunah where the skill is coverage, i guess i missed some memo about wvw.

Entering every thread yelling and screaming? Can you read, we just asking for the buff to not be stats and make it selectable and pls Anet give us an arena so we can sort our stuff out, like that’s the gvg community, in 3 line, i don’t know which forum you reading but i think is the wrong one

Anyways your Argument is heavly Flawed, you don’t even want to watch proof, i guess you just want to see your opinion, i was top 300 in Tpvp, before meta went full kitten i know pvp, i played a lot with with my team mate in Tpvp, i know pvp when i see it and i’ll tell you 10v10 is very very close to big team fight on foefire, and positioning is everything, team coordination is needed 100% or the group just don’t work. Going from there to 15v15, 20v20 more coordination is needed and everyone needs to be at 100% all the time.
If you ever want to run with a proper gvg/wvw guild ask, will show you what is needed and then maybe you change your view.

Pretty pls Anet, let me select my buff

For now they throw us moving loot bags

Trush me if 10% of my GvG team suck it makes a big difference had you done big gvg, like 20v20.
Pls tell me your experience in GvG Because you can NOT talk about GvG skill without doing many of it, and also not all the player during a gvg understand what is happening only the best teams have everybody in the right combat awerennes, so show us your gvg experience or GFTO

you did dama,ge we always were without supply and the spawn tower was getting attack all time, while i think is the wrong tactical move for kodakittenhink map should be pushed to north not to the side, so yeah we got some nice “tactical” pressure on Viz border, i don’t know were most of kodash were, i personally didn’t see many of you (Kodash) and Viz was running like 1-2 small group that was really supprising, i was excepting a 100 man blob at the start, also i don’t understand why they pushed to bay at the start instead of hills but yeah i guess the payed with having so many numbers but still pretty much nothing in the map.

POINTS MAN POINTS, have you seen how much shinny are the points, like you can feel the Joy of points!!!!

hey hey hey, no lol AG, we got the solution guys, the other server coudln’t handle it is Wall of reflection you rotate 4 of them and they auto down and defeated themself

For now Viz pug is 1/3 of Riverside/Am/Insert an other blobby server.
Anyways Ag this week will under Blob training all week, let’s hope from kodash will see.

GO GO GANDARA show them the small roaming so people transfer to you

Dawn is looking for 10v10, 15v15, 20v20 or anything in bewteen just le me know official, not official who cares, contact me

I had the biggest blob in the border Viz i’m the dawn commander i had around 55 people in channel, but i was going with bewteen 36 and 45 people i do supplyinfo multiple time in, guess i lose people on the way, ahahahah.
What to say Viz, i tell my people on reset always we’re going to meet vizunah and we got you this time.
Viz we find a big big blob at end just before the patch hit probably just a random occassion, kodakittenhink was running smaller group than me not sure 100%, lots of small group from Viz until the group up with everything. Will get some video going

Ty Kale and Punk for the Pratice Gvg, with Kale was really tight, Punk hard fight, will try to get better next time

@Questular If it was a char is Charak/zeus, in case of human was panafe

Yes, Get FSP back to his original Force!, lots of good guild on it!

I’ll tell my side of getting chased by many more than you and tea bagging.

I get chase something, get killed by many more but i never get tea-bag for one reason i don’t waste my time after i’m dead i just respawn, if there is not particular reason to stay defetead, i just respawn instant, i don’t waste my owm time, while i like a guild leave alone as single roamer if i stand on the side of them i don’t except every group to have the discipline to don’t attack a walking loot bag like a roamer near a guild group.
What i can say is, I teach to Dawn member to focus on what we’re doing don’t get in combat if you don’t have too, speed is a major thing, i can’t wait for everybody to restack, so don’t waste time of the group, and i’m sure to shout at them if they do it wrong.

Roamer, try to stand on the side of the group, usually they don’t attack, some pug group will go after you for a long time, but that’s pugs, other guild run usually they leave alone.

We got the same situation for months with riverside, we understand your situation, for roaming, in Ag you would find many, i think the TDS guild, is still open for duels is an inter server guild, in case your loooking for more, i’m not sure.
What we can tell you is, Get everybody together, Talk about FSP problems ( Coverage), get smaller guild to unite and make a group of 25-30 that’s the size you want to get nice fight and good wvw play.
Ag lost and gain many guild, people that want to stay will stay, help each other, run open mic from smmaler guild so that you can get more player, and keep pushing people or people will slack.

Dawn was in the situation 1 month and half ago that we were down to 8-9 active player maybe even less, i started to do open mic and get more people, now we have 25-30 people all the time, multiple commander, and lots of fun.
We went from 3-4 player talking to 20 player talking, calling skill, field, info and everything that is needed in a good guild group.
Keep pushing and you will get there.
Everything that i said will cost Energy lots of energy but keep it up and you will get result. Don’t give FSP, i want you strong again so that we can fight for real.

Well yesterday in the channel on TS for garrison there was 35 people i doubt we were more than 45 with pugs.
I was the commander leading the attack, you were out number yes, you were outgunned no.
You add 7-8 Ac in lord, 2-3 for each gate, 1 treb and i think 2 ballista you just waste your supply, you build ac behind gate instead of top of the walls.
IF you build on top of the walls we couldn’t range pressure the door down.
I open everything gate to keep you moving and then invert and push were you were not there, or at least not the full group.
You decided for the wrong move.
Was it hoildable? Maybe For much more time? Yes of course there was different strategy that could be used.

If anycase Dawn (me) offers the possibility of a fair fight tell me how much you can bring will do gvg, or training or whatever i don’t care. I asked AoA for gvg/training you told me no, and that’s fine not every guild is ready or willing or even interested in GvG, well i offer the possibility again, your choice.

Also Punk anwser me, i don’t want to disturb you, just tell me you don’t want, you don’t have core player, i sent you multiple wisper no anwser what so ever except the guild leader i think that sent the info for the commander(i think not sure), thank you for that.

For small scale go Gandara 10-15, for a bit bigger 20-30 come AG lots of good guild here.
For small scale on Gandara i suggest TDA guild

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO need more info but no rewards for winning if you can’t still transfer

+1 everything you said

Dawn is looking for Gvg 10,15,20,25 everyday

Matchup Fail, Dawn is doing Jp race in Ros border, sorry will be running with less number in the other days to match your roaming party

Great fight in Elona and Ar border, Ty War for the traning, Great pressure on us and Great fun, See you next time.
End of the week, Elona blobs much less than server in lower tiers, and can always show a great fun, Ar is like Ag with a bit more coverage.
Very happy with this week