If GW2 relies on anything except the quality and enjoyment of gameplay to keep people entertained, it has failed. Gear treadmills and all associated mechanics that use a skinner box aren’t inherently bad, but they are consistently used to cover up shoddy gameplay. If playing the game for the sake of enjoyment isn’t enough to keep people coming back, Anet screwed up.
This would be nice if the gameplay/quality in GW2 was so much more enjoyable than WoW or to a much much lesser degree TOR.
People act like this gameplay is vastly different than that of WoW’s when you’re still pressing the same 10 buttons you were 10 years ago.
It IS vastly different. I won’t even bother going through a list. If you can’t see how much different it is, then I think you aren’t doing it right.
Lemme guess you’re going to lecture me about dodging weapon swapping and lack of needing to stand still during casting?
Sorry but that’s not a huge thing to me.
Anet went on about how innovative and different their combat was but gave us WoW with a dodge button instead.
If that’s it for you, there’s no lecture here. You seem to have a problem no one can ever solve, grief on, your problem.
The truth is GW2 has no motivative end game appeal, atm. And it doesn’t matter how nice the leveling and such is, this is about end game stuff.
Really? Is it?
Is Skyrim about end game? Is Dragon Age? Those are games that last 40-120hrs of play time, I haven’t seen 10% of all this game has to offer but have spent ~90hrs already. As I don’t pay any additional fees, I can’t see any reason this game needs to make me grind the same poorly copypasted dungeons over and over again to pretend there is some kind of content for max level players. GW2 offers at least as much as other games do, it just doesn’t keep you weeks from reaching that.
Your choice, want to have fun, or not?
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I play dual pistols & flamethrower, firearms & alchemy to fit the flamethrower, does pretty well against multiple enemies without much hassle, can take a lot of damage.
Only doors and such suck as I do mostly condition damage.
I like it but think they could leave you 2-5 levels above the content, good compromise imo.
nope.avi
Everyone would outlevel (even more than now already) to get it easy mode, leaving dungeons a senseless part of the game that’s no more special than any random event.
I got around pretty well, soloed things others claimed not soloable, had more problems with playing warrior or mesmer, let alone necro. Only the ranger was easier imo.
Well it’s how the class works that I’m not happy with. All classes exept from Engineer have a melee weapon. It wouldn’t be hard to give us a 2h hammer/ 1h mace, and give them a skill so we can survive taking some hits or avoid them.
It’s the fact that we need to take up two slots just so we can attack. An other class can take on a melee weapon and go for close combat and give high DPS, sure it’s more risky but they can kill a mob fast, an engineer can only kite, so it takes way too long to get a mob down.
An engineer is a support class, they need a tank, sure they can do it on them self, but it takes way to long to kill them.
Pick the wrench.
How about you actually tried a class instead of whining about it after playing 5 hours?
I’m an engineer and I’m fine with it.
for the 3rd run in a row, dungeon’s boss just dropped me 5 token for a total of 15 token for the entire run… all set cost 1380 tokens; 2 hours for 15 tokens is just insane, not an honorable achievement
If players could achieve all their hopes and dreams inside 3 runs, then guild wars 2 would have a shelf life of about a week.
This is an MMO. You’re in for the long haul.
And nobody says you have to grind 18 dungeons a day. Do it as it comes, a little here, a little there. Once you get it, you’ll know it’s worth something, because not everybody has it.
i said 3 run per piece and seriously i cant get what about 15 token for 2 hours of the same dungeon is funny.
As gear does not equal progression, there is no need to farm those, so you can simply do whatever you want without the game forcing you to get those tokens. So no need to make it cheaper, it does not keep you from playing ANY part of the game.
It’s not about the WHOLE GAME, we are just talking about someone that want a dungeon’s armor because he likes it, i don’t care about the rest of the game ( which i love btw ), this is a specific topic. And the answer for the question " IF I WANT THAT ARMOR ? " is just " INSANE GRIND\FARM ".
They removed with the low-level-low-cost exotic skin my only choice of wearing an armor that i like and i still had to sweat to gain. That armor will be just inaccessible for me and for many others
You want the whole game to be changed to fit one aspect you want to be changed. Or did you really think other parts would be left untouched? Next would be every sPVP match would have to be rewarded with a chest so PVP is less “grindy”, or Karma should be tripled…
P.S. The people who don’t want/like rating systems are generally the people who would have terrible ratings.
I think you should ride your high horse right back to wow, sir.
Who would be against ratings if they are good players? It’s simple logic. PvP is about beating the enemy. So why do people shy away from a system that shows who is better than who.
Creating and leveling a character is about getting to know yourself, what you can do and what you cannot. If you need a number to tell you how good you are, you are not good at all. Grow up.
So why do people shy away from a system that shows who is better than who.
There is a segment of the population I like to refer to as “adults”, who do not need a digital pat on the back to provide them with a sense of self worth.
And is this your excuse for being bad?
You know competition and arms race is the basis of life and evolution itself?
Stop being funny and labeling a 4 billon year instinct as being childish.
Games are about challenges and rewards. A reward can be a new level in game, new titles, some kind of scoreboard, bragging rights. If a game doesn’t have these things(gw2 doesnt-if you dont like dressing a barbie doll- after 80) it will only last untill “excitement of a new game” wears off.
I’ll label it as “primitive” then and tell you to go wash yourself, get some manners and make it to 2012.
I got the pve armor I wanted at lvl 40 and I’m still playing ,so no I don’t understand this so called ‘carrot’ players like you want.
I’ll just leave this here
http://www.talesoftyria.com/tales-of-tyria/2011/10/28/deconstructing-the-never-ending-mmorpg.htmlWhy is no one reading what I’ve said. I don’t really know what to say.
I play just for the fun of playing RIGHT NOW. However MONTHS DOWN THE LINE, let me say it again, MONTHS DOWN THE LINE, playing with no aim other than just to play will not be anywhere near as fun.
Jesus, I just wanna know if there is going to a ranking system other than glory in PvP.
Guess what, the problem every kind of entertainment faces.
for the 3rd run in a row, dungeon’s boss just dropped me 5 token for a total of 15 token for the entire run… all set cost 1380 tokens; 2 hours for 15 tokens is just insane, not an honorable achievement
If players could achieve all their hopes and dreams inside 3 runs, then guild wars 2 would have a shelf life of about a week.
This is an MMO. You’re in for the long haul.
And nobody says you have to grind 18 dungeons a day. Do it as it comes, a little here, a little there. Once you get it, you’ll know it’s worth something, because not everybody has it.
i said 3 run per piece and seriously i cant get what about 15 token for 2 hours of the same dungeon is funny.
As gear does not equal progression, there is no need to farm those, so you can simply do whatever you want without the game forcing you to get those tokens. So no need to make it cheaper, it does not keep you from playing ANY part of the game.
Please no.
Mounts are useless in this game as a means of transportation and only make the world empty as no one is going to dismount to help you.You can literally teleport to anywhere on map and mounts would make this game empty?
Yes.
Just that. Right now, you port as close as you can, then walk. So there is no disadvantage in giving mobs a few shots to help someone and gain XP. If you ride, you don’t stop. The waypoints have fixed chosen locations that split the zones into regions that were designed to fight in, so mobs & events will usually occur between a waypoint and a special location like a task or another waypoint. Mounts would ruin that by breaking this fixed part, so events and mobs would have to be randomly scattered, reducing their actual value to the feel of the world as they would often not fit into their locations, I fear. Plus, no one needs mounts now, do we?
So as long as they’re not part of a costume and therefore only usable in town, no. No mounts.
Please no.
Mounts are useless in this game as a means of transportation and only make the world empty as no one is going to dismount to help you.
100k is the final.
Start with a dungeon, the finishing bonus will do a good start. Have a bunch of mats, maybe even a crafting booster, do lower level areas you haven’t yet done as they are still slightly easier than normal.
I did it normally in a chain event like those in Harathi, but it will be easier that way I suppose.
Dying on one character will of course reset, otherwise you could easily troll that achievement.
What’s the point in a challenge if you can just outlevel it?
This. Get better or keep failing, your choice.
Doors, gates, whatver, all those objects you need to destroy tend to get annoying cause condition damage dealers do ofc deal less white hit damage so they take more time for those objectives.
that is all unlocked and unrestricted in a sub MMO.
Nope.
Those also have restrictions (like WoW with a total of 8 characters iirc), or those bank guilds showing space is just too scarce while they charge you monthly for not providing anything. Plus you really don’t need any extra space, get some proper bags and don’t collect crap you won’t ever need.
Would it be possible to make the authentication remember my network for 24hrs maximum? I get several different nodes to login from so I don’t make it remember them as I don’t want half of Germany to be able to possibly log in, but I’d like to have that “gate” open for 24hrs as most providers use a daily lease.
Death penalty reduces the starting health you have in your DOWNED STATE. Nowhere else. You probably lost health offline or it just recalculated your traits and items and went up from base health or w/e.
Just how does PVP not reward you like PVE does? You get a lot of items, an hour of playing would be like 2 chests, so about 6 items?
There is no where near the amount of money, loot and options of gear to choose from in PvE than PvP
Have you seen the PvP armory? It’s huge.
Plus I don’t see any need for large amounts of money in PvP, you get enough from WvW events and such. You want PvE things? Do PvE.
This thread is pointless. Babby gonna cry.First off, your last comment alone shows that you are not actually interested in a discussion. Yes I have seen the Structured PvP Armory, and If you had read my post at all you would have noticed I talked about that. Its cool you can get armor in structured, but the armor you get in structured doesn’t affect your standard character at all. Also, WvW requires lots of money for keep upgrades and siege equipment.
Which is why WvW offers enough for that. If you were really interested in doing WvW, you would also try to gain what you need to, instead of being a whiny babby and crying about what you want to have without doing anything to get there.
You may walk over the mountains and clear the path from where you started, if that helps. Do that fast and you’ll have all your party with you. I think it’s easier from down there.
Two weeks and kids already cry “nerf plox”?
Well, there’s WoW for that. Go rul0r there.And you are nothing but a fanboy who thinks the game is the holy grail, gods gift to gamers etc. You have made zero contributive posts, all you do is go around bashing anyone who doesn’t think the game is the perfect MMO
Seriously we are not here to bash the game, we are here because we want to help improve it.
Or perhaps you are just here to troll instead of playing the perfect game…
Oh yeah, “improve”.
All you want to improve is your rul0rism.
Just how does PVP not reward you like PVE does? You get a lot of items, an hour of playing would be like 2 chests, so about 6 items?
There is no where near the amount of money, loot and options of gear to choose from in PvE than PvP
Have you seen the PvP armory? It’s huge.
Plus I don’t see any need for large amounts of money in PvP, you get enough from WvW events and such. You want PvE things? Do PvE.
This thread is pointless. Babby gonna cry.
Two weeks and kids already cry “nerf plox”?
Well, there’s WoW for that. Go rul0r there.
Just how does PVP not reward you like PVE does? You get a lot of items, an hour of playing would be like 2 chests, so about 6 items?
I think the intend is to buy the Cultural Armor and use transmute stones so that it has stats that actually matter for your character’s trait build.
Very well could be, and I’ve thought of this as well. It is still disappointing (to me at least) to not see this gear used as.. well gear! Lol!
There’s a money deposit in the bank. The game is intended to be played “through” more than once as stories vary a lot. So buy that armor on a toon, put it aside 3 levels later and transmute it after you got the stats you wanted.