Guild Wars 2

Honestly, you’re gonna have to wait another 24 – 30 hours or so more since it’s “Transfer Trash Thursday” and what with the last spot/top slot in Gold/Silver league being so close between 3 servers, we’re gonna have a lot of rats jumping ship at the last minute onto their cushy new free ride.

Solstice.1097:

He already said it. He wouldn’t lie to or mislead us.

That made me spit out my drink irl.

Shonie.5297:

The odds of NSP rolling 23 and 24 must be astronomical.
“RNG” right?

I don’t think anyone is surprised. Funny thing is, resets have been happening much closer to when the old match ups ended except last night. I know people waiting on reset were “joking” that a certain person was manipulating his server’s match ups, hence the delay, and bam, “coincidentally,” someone wins the “RNG” lottery. Possible? Yes. Likely? No.

Regardless of whether or not such a thing occurred though, the fact that this even crosses the minds of the player base shows how toxic the divide between the WvW team and the players has become.

I know I’ll be watching one server’s ranking this week and hoping on a rank up, and I know I will be far from alone.

11-15-2012 – Ascended Gear introduced.

2-26-2013 – 5 more Ascended Stats added (Rampager, Cleric, Knight, Apothecary, and some wacky combo of precision, power, and toughness).

10/7/2013 – Still no Valkyrie/Carrion Ascended gear.

Kinda a copy and paste from a previous post of mine, but hey, it still hasn’t been addressed. Valkyrie and Carrion are two stat combos that have been in the game since Day 1, derived from Fangs/Beryl Orb and Bones/Chrysocola Orbs respectively.

Despite this, we’ve gone nearly a year since ascended gear was released without these missing stat combinations being implemented. It took over 3 months to add other missing stats, but for some odd reason, they left out Valkyrie and Carrion and added some random new stat set and Apothecary instead, which wasn’t introduced until Lost Shores. The “why” on this is puzzling. What’s even more puzzling though is the silence after it was confirmed that this wasn’t intentional and that these stats would be added in the future.

We’ve been more then patient, and some type of response is more then warranted at this point. The “it takes time and there’s a huge amount of stuff on our list of things to do” isn’t cutting it as an excuse. Items are added all the time, and it is glaringly obvious to the players that there are prioritization issues. Hard to add new items? We’ll just add new stats combos (Azurite/Sentinel) while ignoring the missing ones. Icons? We’ll just change the Dragon’s Bash food icons out of the blue rather then make ones for the missing stat items. Skins isn’t even an issue since trinkets don’t have them and the ascended back ones use the same ones. If you’re prioritizing random things like the SAB or temporary kitten content rather then a glaring hole in gear implementation, I don’t know what to say. Something like this should be a top priority, not put on the back burner. Quite frankly we’re fed up with all this.

For those that would say, change your gear set, etc. That’s missing the point. Imagine if say Berserker or PTV ascended where missing and this situation occurred. Yet this is exactly what has occurred for Valkyrie and Carrion.

So once again, why has this gear not been implemented yet? Has this fallen through the cracks? What will be done to address this and when? Answers would be much appreciated.

I can see it now. WvW population declines.

A certain incompetent dev tries blaming said decline on Tequatl to save his own kitten .

So in light of the Bloodlust rage, has anyone else noticed that you can’t treb bay from garrison anymore thanks to the randomly placed make shift cliff there?

Kaos.9162:

No Walking.6349:

They fixed this months ago, players get kill points if their enemy alt+f4s out in the middle of a fight or when they’re downed.

/thread

Well, the point of the thread is that you won’t get points for stomping them from the bloodlust buff if they do this…

Correct. I’m well aware they fixed the issue with not getting kill credit and loot for Alt F4ing. The point of the thread is Alt F4ing now lets players grief by denying Bloodlust in the Borderland stomp points.

Intended? Probably not. Foreseeable? Definitely.

mercury ranique.2170:

Arkard.3970:

Support ticket resulted in a generic “as a general rule, we don’t refund items” response despite linking this thread in the ticket. shrug

Please post your 12 digit ticket number.

130907-000096

Support ticket resulted in a generic “as a general rule, we don’t refund items” response despite linking this thread in the ticket. shrug

Would love this.

Doggie.3184:

You’ll have to make legendary weapons to get those affixes. ;s

I have a legendary…. that still doesn’t get me said suffixes for the trinkets…

Woodsman.3461:

Since it got buried by all the whining and entitlement rants in this thread I’ll quote and confirm the following.

Malediktus.9250:

There are no 10 extra laurels – completed old montlies got 10, completed new monthlies got 0 laurels.

once more for those who seem to be challenged at reading and like to whine alot:

You do NOT get 10 laurels from the new monthlies if you have completed the old ones, it simply allows those who completed the monthly before the Essence of Luck addition to get their rewards.

Guess what guys, that makes it FAIR (since so many people seem to care)

I do however have more karma, mystic coins, and achievement points, so although you might be technically correct, your point is invalid in the grand scheme of why people are kitten ed.

I’ll just add fuel to the fire. You guys realize it’s not just the 10 laurels right? It’s also a healthy chunk of Mystic Coins, Karma, and Achievement Points. Yeah, I know the AP leaderboard is a joke, but now it’s even more so!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Missing-Ascended-Stats-Bug-or-Intentional/first#post1532855

So today marks the newest batch of ascended items. What is once again missing, despite being promised, is ascended valkyrie and carrion. There have been numerous topics ignored on this. This has gone on for over half the life span of the game. Now, we’ve just confirmed we’ve not only been ignored, but straight up lied to. Quite frankly, this has gone beyond unacceptable.

Don’t try to kitten us with a dissection of what the “next ascended batch” means. Just kindly stop kittening us and address this ASAP.

Thank you.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Missing-Ascended-Stats-Bug-or-Intentional/first#post1532855

So, since the next batch of ascended gear is coming out next week, we’re finally getting Carrion/Valkyrie ascended stat gear too after six+ months like promised right?

Or is this going to be overlooked again with some poorly made attempt at hedging on what was meant by “batch” to attempt to save face?

Hopefully the wait is over, although there is obviously some healthy skepticism given the track record here.

That was a few million karma lost for me personally… I’d hope you’ll address the fact that people used their consumable karma after seeing the change and not just “mitigate” for people that haven’t used theirs yet. Cause otherwise, you’re just screwing over a large number of people twice instead of once.

Dolyak oil has been mastered on DB bl the past few nights.

1.) New WvW Dev Team
2.) Temporary Kitten Content
3.) RNG

11-15-2012 – Ascended Gear introduced.

2-26-2013 – 5 more Ascended Stats added (Rampager, Cleric, Knight, Apothecary, and some wacky combo of precision, power, and toughness).

7/3/2013 – Still no Valkyrie/Carrion Ascended gear.

Gonna try this again because this has gotten to the point of absurd. For those unaware, Valkyrie and Carrion are two stat combos that have been in the game since Day 1, derived from Fangs/Beryl Orb and Bones/Chrysocola Orbs respectively.

Despite this, we’ve gone over half a year since ascended gear was released without these missing stat combinations being implemented. It took over 3 months to add other missing stats, but for some odd reason, they left out Valkyrie and Carrion and added some random new stat set and Apothecary instead, which wasn’t introduced until Lost Shores. The “why” on this is puzzling. What’s even more puzzling though is the silence after it was confirmed that this wasn’t intentional and that these stats would be added in the future.

We’ve been more then patient, and some type of response is more then warranted at this point. The “it takes time and there’s a huge amount of stuff on our list of things to do” isn’t cutting it as an excuse. Items are added all the time, and it is glaringly obvious to the players that there are prioritization issues. Hard to add new items? We’ll just add new stats combos (Azurite/Sentinel) while ignoring the missing ones. Icons? We’ll just change the Dragon’s Bash food icons out of the blue rather then make ones for the missing stat items. Skins isn’t even an issue since trinkets don’t have them and the ascended back ones use the same ones. If you’re prioritizing random things like the SAB or temporary kitten content rather then a glaring hole in gear implementation, I don’t know what to say. Something like this should be a top priority, not put on the back burner. Quite frankly we’re fed up with all this.

For those that would say, change your gear set, etc. That’s missing the point. Imagine if say Berserker or PTV ascended where missing and this situation occurred. Yet this is exactly what has occurred for Valkyrie and Carrion.

So once again, why has this gear not been implemented yet? Has this fallen through the cracks? What will be done to address this and when? Answers would be much appreciated.

I just got the achievement. I can confirm that logging out to another character after the third barrage phase is down then running back and killing Mai and the Horrik will grant you the achievement. For those of you who can’t get back, you have to talk to Inspector Kiel to port back into the room.

Pretty sure this is bugged, lots of players have been dodging everything and not getting credit.

Lokki.1092:

Been giving some thought to reversing my gear stats. Making my armor Valk, and picking up ascended jewelry to compensate for the lost stats on armor. But I haven’t done the math on that just yet to see how much percent of my stats come gtom Armor and how much from jewelry and back. Anyone else try this?

Did the math some time back. The armor stats are not equivalent to the trinkets. Trinkets give more. If you switch them around, you take a significant hit on Valk stats. I don’t recall the exact number, but the tinkets account for 1.5 – 2x more stats or something like that.

Ision.3207:

Hi Lokki !

Good to cya again!

Where’s Akard? He should show up any minute now.

I’m waiting on all my other dear friends that gather each month in this thread (and others like it)!

Hey guys, I say we start a new guild ….. “The Unascended” …. and our WvW guild emblem will be a blank space.

I don’t know, how long has it been now? 4 months? 5 months? Getting quite tired of the the same old temporary content kitten.

On a semi related note, I do note that they took the time to make new icon graphics for all the Dragon Bash food. Great prioritization there….

Can we get some clarification on if these are dropped from regular coffers? Given that you can get everything from the Rich Coffers with normal coffers, we would like to know if this is intentional.

If it is, that’s silly. If that’s the case it’d be fair to make this either tradable or just send one to everyone who opened a coffer.

This is what we’re doing to keep from being bored.

Mordyph.2104:

So SOR has to petty much spawn camp both servers to get a positive rating.

That kinda will ruin any fun for either side.

I thought ruining fun for all sides was the WvW team’s new focus?

Hickeroar.9734:

Arkard.3970:

Hickeroar.9734:

Arkard.3970:

Shun.9475:

for the sake of survival, can there be a peace treaty between SoS and TC to fight vs the endless hordes of rall?

No. We just spent a week where SoS refused to attack SoR. Actions have consequences. You should’ve probably thought ahead and not irritated a server you’ll likely be paired with many times again in the future, seeing as how you’re gaining rating and will likely be stuck in match ups against higher servers for awhile now.

Last night, SoS controlled almost all of SoR’s EBG holdings for a while.

SoS also took SoR’s garrison and hills last night.

SoS focused us plenty too, but stop making junk up trying to make us “look better.”

What the heck are you talking about? And congrats, a span of 4-5 hours doesn’t equal a week.

You said SoS refused to attack SoR. That’s obviously not true. Even more important, I saw several SEA timeslots where SoS was CLEARLY focusing SoR and leaving TC alone. The only place SoS was mostly agnostic about it was EBG.

… congrats, you’ve achieved the status of troll if you seriously think that statement was made as an absolute, what where one person could flip a camp and make it untrue. I still don’t see where you’re pulling the “make us look better” part from. I mean, who’s making up junk now?

The point was, SoS for the vast majority of this week, made some absolutely moronic moves this week when TC left them alone. You don’t have to look far for examples. (heck, this one you even responded to) So now, the OP is asking us to leave them alone. Why should we, when we saw the results this week? Given, things might be reconsidered if they reverse course, but that’s gonna take time and it has to be shown. So stop dissecting words and “making junk up.” A point was trying to be made, and you’re just detracting from it, and going off topic.

Hickeroar.9734:

Arkard.3970:

Shun.9475:

for the sake of survival, can there be a peace treaty between SoS and TC to fight vs the endless hordes of rall?

No. We just spent a week where SoS refused to attack SoR. Actions have consequences. You should’ve probably thought ahead and not irritated a server you’ll likely be paired with many times again in the future, seeing as how you’re gaining rating and will likely be stuck in match ups against higher servers for awhile now.

Last night, SoS controlled almost all of SoR’s EBG holdings for a while.

SoS also took SoR’s garrison and hills last night.

SoS focused us plenty too, but stop making junk up trying to make us “look better.”

What the heck are you talking about? “Look better?” Get off your high horse when you admit the point that was trying to be made. Stop “making up junk” just to say something.

SoS focused us. Friday. Saturday. Sunday. Monday. Etc. And congrats to them for attacking SoR when the match up is over, a span of 4-5 hours doesn’t equal a week.

Shun.9475:

for the sake of survival, can there be a peace treaty between SoS and TC to fight vs the endless hordes of rall?

No. We just spent a week where SoS refused to attack SoR. Actions have consequences. You should’ve probably thought ahead and not irritated a server you’ll likely be paired with many times again in the future, seeing as how you’re gaining rating and will likely be stuck in match ups against higher servers for awhile now.

Same issue here.

Not counting all completed achievements. Have finished 6 yet am only showing 4 done.

In Washington, D.C. lately it’s been “another day, another scandal.” At Anet, lately it’s been “another day, another WvW kitten fest.”

Aethilmar.3951:

If it is broken, it will show them exactly how broken it is and force them to make a change before they lose too many players.

That assumes competence, which has been shown to be non existent.

The should’ve removed this the first few times it bugged. Seriously work on your QA.

DevonCarver.5370:

The concept of tiers has little meaning at this point and you should try to stop thinking of matchups in those terms. Servers are matched up by proximity of rating, not proximity of “tier”. If the tiers have ratings that are within the range of the random adjustment, they can end up fighting each other. This is going to result in blowouts, no doubt about it. However, we are not going to make changes to this after just 2 weeks of the system. There are things we can do. We will almost certainly end up adjusting the total added to each server rating to group the matchups a little more closely. First however, we need to let the ratings adjust by having more varied matchups like these. If you look at EU, which is using the exact same system, you can see matchups with numerous surprising results. The same will likely be true by the end of the NA matchup.

TL;DR: We are going to wait at least a couple more weeks before changing any of the math behind the new system, but it is very likely we’ll decrease the size of the variation at some point.

Congrats on further alienating your player base. You’re in over your head. The answer isn’t to keep going full steam ahead.

Shiren.9532:

I think Devon owes us an explanation after last week and it getting much worse this week. Two weeks in a row of terrible matches is a very long time.

Just implement the same RNG system for WvW team paychecks. You may get that elusive (rare) bonus, extra vacation days, your normal paycheck, or food stamps. (but mostly food stamps) See how they like dealing with it. Oh wait…

As a TC WvW’er, I have to say that what Anet has done to SoS with their solution to everything (RNG) shows how screwed up the new system is.

No fair system does that to people. It just doesn’t.

It’s not fair to the higher ranked servers who are matched with them because they’re forced to literally stomp them until they don’t even bother showing up to avoid hemorrhaging ranking points. It’s not fair to SoS because they’re facing beatdowns of the like that haven’t been seen since the game first came out. With their ranking increase from not even showing up, they’re MORE likely in the future to get MORE of the same. Don’t give me that it’ll work out over time either. Given the track record on WvW recently, I have less confidence in the WvW team then I would have with a kleptomaniac in a bank vault.

Almost everything you guys have touched so far in WvW has gone from bad to worse. You need to step back and change the approach you’re taking, because a critical point will be reached sooner or later where people say screw it and go on to other games.

Hyung.6140:

For those cynics saying they made all the problems in the first place… well, they also made the whole WvW experience that we all love so much too :p Let’s see where this goes…

No… they didn’t… the WvW team changed dramatically this past spring. At least get your facts straight.

Quite frankly, the more I hear, the more alarm bells sound off in my head.

The current track record of the WvW team is abysmal.

Let me address some of the points discussed in the future plans:

Siege

“we don’t think that “MOAR arrow carts!” should be the answer to every situation. " Are you kidding me. How can you put this statement out with a straight face. This was an issue literally created by the WvW team. All of a sudden one day, ACs get changed without notice and people and siege start exploding. Even with a nerf on seige damage, the range and FoV issues still haven’t been dealt with even when addressed as needing to be after multiple patches. Simply put, what’s being said here is that your’e telling us that we can expect the people that created the problem and have failed to fix it to eventually fix it… yeah, that’s gonna inspire confidence.

Variety

Your attempts at “variety” have only caused more issues. The new match ups have created situations with blow outs and servers pretty much not showing up/having fun that haven’t been seen since the first weeks of the game. Given the wonderful way this was implemented with the last minute take back, last minute push, and last minute bug storm, I’m absolutely terrified at what attempts to create new rules and address “nightcapping” will do.

Zergs

Tactics over sheer numbers? Almost everything done has only served to encourage zerging. Take a well fortified keep with ACs for example. How to deal with this? Outside of an unexpected rush, the answer is a zerg. I’ve seen keeps so bunkered up that commanders are left with no practical choice but to range keep doors down via “man modeing.”

So, is this going to be implemented in the Dragon Bash patch, or is this gonna set the record to 4-5 months without anything?

Mayoken.9851:

Perhaps you guys don’t understand sarcasm.

Oh, I understand it just fine. Keep backpedaling though.

Mayoken.9851:

So Dragonbrand was overall victorious?

The reason DB is the laughingstock of the top tiers is because of statements like this, especially after it’s performance these past few weeks.

Quite frankly, you were straight up the loser. FA placed above you these last two weeks despite losing two guilds, once of which was their top WvW guild. TC managed to embarass Dragonbrand again and again and again. Your WvW population has tanked these past weeks despite reaching full server status.

However, I guess your magnificent success being paired up against a Tier 3 and a Tier 5 server have allowed you to delude yourself again. Just stop. Seriously. It’s embarrassing.

Dear No Fun Allowed, stop acting like trash. Thanks.

Well, this was expected. If you didn’t realize this was gonna happen, you haven’t been paying attention to the track record on WvW.

Nabrok.9023:

Debois Guilbert.6413:

Sounds like the devs are waiting for a final match score to determine the ratings for next week. Might be nice to base the matchmaking ratings based on the scores at, for example, midnight Thursday PST while keeping Friday relevant by including it in a final rating. Might sound a little confusing, but trust me, there are enough clever people on every server to figure out even the most insanely complicated scoring scheme. And the tiny amount the rating might change on Friday should be drowned out by the RNG roll.

Just an option for those wanting to know the match-ups in advance.

If the random portion of the calculation for each server was released (the -1.0 to 1.0 part) on, say, Thursday night it would allow people to calculate their new match rating and plan accordingly.

At the same time that should be short enough notice to prevent anybody from trying to game the system.

That would make sense. Can’t have that.

Dhampyr.2104:

Rawr.5930:

Arkanfel.8403:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Epic tier 2 battles of history!!!

TC vs FA vs DB!!!

Who won?
Who’s next?
TC decides!

Fixed that for ya ;p

Dont sell yourself short.

If DB can muster the same participation in the first 2 weeks of this matchup, if i were a betting man – my money would be on you.

This. DB has the same folks it had when it won T2 for the week. FA has shown that the loss of two WvW guilds has actually made them stronger.

T2, imo, is very much anyone’s game.

And Mr. Beard, you made me lawl hard enough to spit out coffee with your original post. Thanks. xD

FA is stronger because it doesn’t have a server queue sitting in a tower “looking for good fights” and for the first week in a month + didn’t turtle up in hills on their BL on reset to the neglect of everything else on the map.

Just an update: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups/first#post2124865

Actinotus.6410:

Not happening next week

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups

That’s very ambiguous. You can’t even tell what that means.

Not that I’m surprised, another blunder in the downhill management of WvW,