Guild Wars 2

ERMAHGERD The defiant, uncontrollable, trolling PAXA dare challenge the rules of open world pvp and kill the fight clubbers! What anarchy! I very much enjoy Paxa. They went to fight club politely, nobody wanted to fight them. What do you expect to happen? They don’t give a kitten, they will fight people whenever and where ever. Including crashing fight club. But it amuses me more that in the grander scheme of things that people are so upset that ONE guild group of 5 will freely kill people at fight club. In any other game an entire guild zerg of 60 players would sweep through and crush everyone and say, whoops sorry about your luck this is pvp. Then come back in 5 minutes and do it again till you give up on fight club.

Jakare.6807:

Arroneous, you for one know how important group structure is to 5man duels, you’ve said before when I’ve asked where you guys have been that you don’t like to roam when you’re down a man, or if your group comp isn’t at 100% strength. Which is fine, but giving us stick for not fighting you guys when one of our team is too tired, and telling us to ‘go pick up a random or something’ is just dumb.

We’ve tried fighting paxa without coordination, first week I came to ET we jumped into some 5man duels with paxa, and we got wiped, a lot. If you want a good fight out of us, let us get our team comp to full strength, otherwise it’s not fun for either of us.

Ya know, some people have fun just getting to fight. No argument here that group structure is important, but not fighting at all cuz you think you might lose isn’t fun either. Maybe you should be looking for more of a challenge from time to time. Refusing to fight in a setting like fight club is just silly, no matter who the opponents. What are you even doing there BS? You have crazy good 1v1 builds and you are very good group players. Its like taking a handful of MMA fighters into a preschool class and asking for fights. But Paxa comes along, and you don’t want to fight cuz your engi is tired?

Let’s just say you grabbed a random BS for a 5th (which you had 5 options) and you lost to Paxa, who cares? No respect would be lost for BS. It was known you weren’t at 100% and its known BS has great players. But at least you had the balls to fight. What happens if you won? You can feel proud of yourselves. But you refused to fight at all, which loses at least some of my respect. KoM plays all the time without the perfect team, but we get a lot more intense fights that way. Sure sometimes we end up dying more while trying to fight a group we could have easily wiped with the A team, but victory without expectation is sweeter. But I guess this is just my opinion.

obastable.5231:

^ or perhaps he has a scat fetish & this is how he expresses himself.

uh … score update?

Don’t tell people of my fetishes! Shhhhhh

katz.8376:

aww. see… i was amused, and then you had to go and get all classy on me. >sigh<

Roses are red,
Your blood is too,
ET i’m defending!
Bring it on, fool!

on a side note, was that pic from our earlier match-up, or more recent? jes curious

Sorry I ruined the moment and that was a pic from the previous match up. But its all I got of you so had to use it.

katz.8376:

Azgarn.2145:

katz.8376:

k. i await your next artistic efforts.

Roses are red
Your hair is purple
I just took a poo
But I got the moon for you.

better! and NICE screenshot!

Your name is Katz
You gave me the shatz
After my poo
We corpse jumped you.

katz.8376:

k. i await your next artistic efforts.

Roses are red
Your hair is purple
I just took a poo
But I got the moon for you.

katz.8376:

i did. it was somewhat amusing, but your rhyme and meter seems a bit off.

:D

Dang. Sorry I’ll spend more time on the next one. It will be perfect.

katz.8376:

“official” fight nights are thursday, but what the heck.

Did you see the poem I made for you Katz?

Narsil.6579:

In experience when 5-7 good players band up against any 5-7 man group of HoD, HoD will lose, Ive seen equal numbers destroy them, and specially when you have people who know when to hit who and when to dodge out and stay alive, another thing is to learn to dodge the CC, also CCing is fun but takes no skill rather just locking the other opponent, its like if Anet gave us the mesmer the gift to multi stun lock targets, if mesmers had a build that could stun lock multiple targets, with a stun lock build lasting 15-20 secs it be a nice thing.. oh wait there might be a chance to make one, ill brb gonna go theory craft..

This post is painful to read. Either you are five years old, or didn’t go to school to learn sentence structure. Also, why are you talking about a build to lock multiple people down for 15-20s? That would be OP as kitten. You only need 2s of CC to kill someone if you are good and don’t have a gay tank build with no dps.

Anyways, It sounds like all the “terribad HoD players” we have must have killed Narsil one too many times. He has quite the whine/qq rant going. Btw, saying you often saw 5-7 of one server destroy 5-7 of another server is like saying you went into a town and saw some buildings. I see it both ways all the time. Do I mention it on the forums? No. Cuz it doesn’t mean anything.

katz.8376:

i don’t command on the weekends because it’s so crazy. i will, however, log on my upscale mesmer and run with the zerg. XD

I thought all of ET were upleveled toons.

I have played nearly 3000 hours since the launch of this game, and I have yet to get a precursor to drop. I used to throw a lot of random stuff in the Mystic Toilet, I have done more than my fair share of PVE (dynamic events, dungeons, new content, random mobs/event farming). I am very active in WvW, having toons ranked 43, 26, 17, 15 and more. Ive even bought more gems than I would have liked to (mentioning this to state that I have given Anet my support in the form of money).

And I’ve done all this… with no random drop of a precursor. I feel like this is ridiculous. Yes I know that RNG exists to keep rare items exclusive… but also shouldn’t dedicated players be rewarded for the effort, time, and money spent playing this game? Even Lotro was better about giving the dedicated players the most exclusive items without resolving to throwing gold at it.

Yeah I have had a lot of gold travel through my hands and if I saved and budgeted it, could have bought 2-3 precursors by now, but thats not my point. I would like to be rewarded for being a dedicated player and doing the content that Anet keeps throwing at us. But instead I’m just left frustrated at the 1.5s green items that flood my inventory that I monotonously have to sell at a vendor or salvage.

Anet, why do you taunt me so? Do you even care about satisfying players like me? Cuz I feel neglected.

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Knowing full well you didn’t run? Why would we randomly accuse you of such a thing if it did not happen? Now you are just saying we are a terrible sort of liars. Your insults have awarded you this vendetta. Not that we will search you out, but if you are spotted justice will be swift, it will be righteous, and it will be without mercy. (name that movie quote) Maybe you did run, you just don’t want to admit it after being so pretentious earlier. You challenge us to more 1v1s? No, sorry. We do not need to waste the effort 1v1ing someone we have all fought before when we could be wiping groups elsewhere.

Bring it on.

Although you do realize that if it got really bad for me I could just change my gear setup(I do have others), consume a costume, and shift to one of my other guild tags, trolol right by you guys while tipping my hat and acting friendly while you guys go “Wow, what a nice FC guy” and you wouldn’t even realize its me right?

>_>

Not that you guys will be able to cause me that much trouble, and I seriously doubt you’re going to phase through every single map looking for me.

As for why you would accuse me of such a thing if it didn’t happen, it could be that you remembered it wrong, were desperate for attention, or any number of things. That’s your business, sort that out yourself.

Well I already mentioned we wouldn’t spend any time actually searching for you… and if you changed your character and tried to run by us, you would still be killed if we found out it was you or not. We don’t like anyone with a red name in WvW. Except the pink Yarr thief. He is pretty neat. Even if we never saw you again, you would not be missed, nor would we fret over it.

o.o?

So only one of you ever 1 vs 1’d me, every other time you were doing what you’re going to be doing anyways, the only difference being you single me out first when there are others around (something that is rare when I play)? That’s the same thing dude. You guys gank a single target when you see it, you’d do that anyways.

Guess there’s nothing to be concerned about after all. How nice.

Im really not sure what to say to you anymore considering you forget or ignore everything that has been said previously every time you make a new post.

Detharos.3157:

You claim I didn’t get you below half hp (I remember that differently, namely you pressured through the first half of the fight), and now you call it a decent fight.

Make up your mind. And whatever you say, I know I bowed at some point.

Also you forgot that time I stopped ET from spawn camping you guys as well by preventing the construction of that corny AC (Stay classy, ET >_>). I was the only reason that AC went down. You should thank me and send me some gold.

I help you from behind the scenes, and you repay me with this attitude? If I catch you alone be prepared to die, you ungrateful wretches.

Yeah pretty sure your pet wasn’t the only reason we escaped being spawn camped. Even if that AC went up, we could have easily rushed it and taken down. Don’t make yourself out to be a hero just yet. Keep getting more angry tho, it could help you come up with some more creative names to call us.

Dsybok.1405:

Uh it WAS a fun night in FC BL but we didn’t come out to play, we had the same number of people we always have, about 15 on the entire map most of the time, maybe 20 at times.

Except that 60 person FC zerg that KoM fought for a while.

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Knowing full well you didn’t run? Why would we randomly accuse you of such a thing if it did not happen? Now you are just saying we are a terrible sort of liars. Your insults have awarded you this vendetta. Not that we will search you out, but if you are spotted justice will be swift, it will be righteous, and it will be without mercy. (name that movie quote) Maybe you did run, you just don’t want to admit it after being so pretentious earlier. You challenge us to more 1v1s? No, sorry. We do not need to waste the effort 1v1ing someone we have all fought before when we could be wiping groups elsewhere.

Bring it on.

Although you do realize that if it got really bad for me I could just change my gear setup(I do have others), consume a costume, and shift to one of my other guild tags, trolol right by you guys while tipping my hat and acting friendly while you guys go “Wow, what a nice FC guy” and you wouldn’t even realize its me right?

>_>

Not that you guys will be able to cause me that much trouble, and I seriously doubt you’re going to phase through every single map looking for me.

As for why you would accuse me of such a thing if it didn’t happen, it could be that you remembered it wrong, were desperate for attention, or any number of things. That’s your business, sort that out yourself.

Well I already mentioned we wouldn’t spend any time actually searching for you… and if you changed your character and tried to run by us, you would still be killed if we found out it was you or not. We don’t like anyone with a red name in WvW. Except the pink Yarr thief. He is pretty neat. Even if we never saw you again, you would not be missed, nor would we fret over it.

Detharos.3157:

You do? ROFL wow, flattering to have an entire guild angry at me.

And yeah, I was annoyed that someone said I ran from 1 vs 1s when here is one of your own admitting he fought me and knowing full well I didn’t run. Furthermore you yourself saw my willingness to face you in a 1 vs 1 death, but said something later like “In the end it’d be ten 1 vs 1s.. simultaneously” or something like that, hinting that you had no interest in backing your statements, am I wrong?

Knowing full well you didn’t run? Why would we randomly accuse you of such a thing if it did not happen? Now you are just saying we are a terrible sort of liars. Your insults have awarded you this vendetta. Not that we will search you out, but if you are spotted justice will be swift, it will be righteous, and it will be without mercy. (name that movie quote) Maybe you did run, you just don’t want to admit it after being so pretentious earlier. You challenge us to more 1v1s? No, sorry. We do not need to waste the effort 1v1ing someone we have all fought before when we could be wiping groups elsewhere.

Detharos.3157:

When I go through that effort to type up a large comprehensive post and friendly post, only to get responded to by brief troll “Lol Umad?” style posts(See the rolls eye one I replied to for instance) by your members running on some delusion that I have some personal vendetta against your guild/get enraged over the slightest disadvantage, what do you expect?

Believe and claim what you want, as you have continued to do regardless.

You made that illusion up yourself. We didn’t think you had any beef with KoM at all. I simply stated that you ran away from our 1v1s. Then you got extremely agitated it seems, and created all this. Now we have a vendetta against you. Congratulations.

Detharos.3157:

Meh. Boring.

Well I will say, assuming we’re talking about occurrences yesterday I don’t remember a single fight 1 vs 1 fight with anybody carrying a “KoM” tag going on without interference, let alone 3-4 “1 vs 1s” in which I lost.

I recall smashing some laughable KoM warrior or guardian with the tag senseless until his buddies always came just in time to save him 2 or 3 times in a row last night, at various intervals. Every time that guy was in such an uphill battle as to make it clear he couldn’t handle me 1 v 1, and outside that there were only maybe 3 other KoM members applicable, so obviously your “4 1v1” talk is all kitten LOL.

Hopefully we’ll meet again later tonight, and have 4 real 1 v 1s so you can back up your kitten talk.

Geez, my trolling has a crazy effect of making people absolutely delusional. You didn’t come close to “beating him senseless” in any fight with us. You even had to run from the warrior, I saw it. Realistically tho a melee ranger should completely stomp out a warrior. But unfortunately for you, we have nothing to prove to anyone. So when we meet again, KoM shall give you 4-10 1v1s, all at the same time. Better practice those running away skillz.

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Had some fun with HoD and ET in ET BL this morning.

If you see me, I’m always up for spike-less 1 v 1s, just beckon me and lead me somewhere interference free and take your best shot.

As for all those people from both sides who kept trying to 2/3v1 me and kept dying… no hard feelings, but don’t think I won’t use the water to my advantage when you simply throw numbers at me.

Also @ that random HoD mesmer and the PAXA ele who chased me in the water for like 40 minutes and had a nice duel with me later, respect. Never seen someone that determined before and you proved yourself individually strong when we dueled after as well. Those skirmishes were quite fun, and intimidating at times too. It was a pity neither of us could finish it in the end.

Spikeless 1v1s? So you don’t want to fight someone that can beat you? You must be the melee ranger that runs away during the 1v1s when you get low.

Oh you seem to misunderstand, I often fight duel style and say spikeless because of the vast majority of fights that I win. And that will come off as arrogant my apologies, its just that the average person out there that chases me runs some fodder zerg build and there’s literally no merit in me smashing a flag into them when I crush them.

If you want to fight me 1 vs 1, with spikes I’m open to that too. Although funny, only time I recall running from a “KoM” tag was in 2 v 1+. I’d attack one of you alone and immediately your buddies would rush in to help.

That the same KoM I’m remembering?

If you’re looking for a 1 v 1 fight to the death, I’m available for such a fight right now, if you’re interested.

3 or 4 of us from KoM 1v1’d you. And every time you would be loosing and start to run away. So we decided to just kill you. No point in wasting time fighting you in a 1v1 for you to just run away when there were so many ET around to kill.

I’ll take you on 1 v 1 if your buddies don’t interfere right now, just name the area. To the death.

Unfortunately I’m actually working for once. Which is why I’m on the forums.

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Had some fun with HoD and ET in ET BL this morning.

If you see me, I’m always up for spike-less 1 v 1s, just beckon me and lead me somewhere interference free and take your best shot.

As for all those people from both sides who kept trying to 2/3v1 me and kept dying… no hard feelings, but don’t think I won’t use the water to my advantage when you simply throw numbers at me.

Also @ that random HoD mesmer and the PAXA ele who chased me in the water for like 40 minutes and had a nice duel with me later, respect. Never seen someone that determined before and you proved yourself individually strong when we dueled after as well. Those skirmishes were quite fun, and intimidating at times too. It was a pity neither of us could finish it in the end.

Spikeless 1v1s? So you don’t want to fight someone that can beat you? You must be the melee ranger that runs away during the 1v1s when you get low.

Oh you seem to misunderstand, I often fight duel style and say spikeless because of the vast majority of fights that I win. And that will come off as arrogant my apologies, its just that the average person out there that chases me runs some fodder zerg build and there’s literally no merit in me smashing a flag into them when I crush them.

If you want to fight me 1 vs 1, with spikes I’m open to that too. Although funny, only time I recall running from a “KoM” tag was in 2 v 1+. I’d attack one of you alone and immediately your buddies would rush in to help.

That the same KoM I’m remembering?

If you’re looking for a 1 v 1 fight to the death, I’m available for such a fight right now, if you’re interested.

3 or 4 of us from KoM 1v1’d you. And every time you would be losing and start to run away. So we decided to just kill you. No point in wasting time fighting you in a 1v1 for you to just run away when there were so many ET around to kill.

Detharos.3157:

Had some fun with HoD and ET in ET BL this morning.

If you see me, I’m always up for spike-less 1 v 1s, just beckon me and lead me somewhere interference free and take your best shot.

As for all those people from both sides who kept trying to 2/3v1 me and kept dying… no hard feelings, but don’t think I won’t use the water to my advantage when you simply throw numbers at me.

Also @ that random HoD mesmer and the PAXA ele who chased me in the water for like 40 minutes and had a nice duel with me later, respect. Never seen someone that determined before and you proved yourself individually strong when we dueled after as well. Those skirmishes were quite fun, and intimidating at times too. It was a pity neither of us could finish it in the end.

Spikeless 1v1s? So you don’t want to fight someone that can beat you? You must be the melee ranger that runs away during the 1v1s when you get low.

katz.8376:

phht. i earned myself half a week of getting danced/jumped/sat on by PAXA (and due to guild friendships, KoM also)

I made a poem for you Katz.

Roses are red, violets are blue. I have a gun, Get in the van.

<3

Lepew.7890:

Azgarn, I am not the kind of guy who will
Shower you with apologies, nor am I really a subtle subliminal guy. So
Azgarn, here is my sincerest apology of having implied you need to
Shower. Clearly
You are the kind of guy who has impeccable hygiene, and you
Will go far in life with your happy go lucky attitude that will
Make others around you smile with great joy.
Your take on WvW clearly differs from mine, and I should never have brought your
Mother into this discussion as that clearly was in poor taste.
Happy Father’s Day! (Sunday)

Your Pal,

Lepew

Your sarcasm makes me want to have babies with you. Get over here sweetheart so we can make love.

Lepew.7890:

I don’t think the moderators have a sense of humor. At least ArKRazor got it.

Azgarn come on by a tower tonight. I’ll come on out. Just ignore that big bucket thing that is being built while I get appropriately attired.

Don’t worry I got your Monty Python reference. That was almost enough for me to stop arguing with you and give you a hug.

AphoticEssance.7592:

Azgarn.2145:

AphoticEssance.7592:

Sigh… I did not want to post anything, but seeing people talk trash in our guild’s shout box speaks volumes to how mad you really are.

I am not sure where the trash talking started about VP, but I just want to say that we do not care what your guild name is, nor do we care who you are. Do not flatter yourself into thinking we care about your guild. We don’t. We only care about guilds in DR. We fight for DR, and if you get your feelings hurt along the way we do not care.

I am not sure what I can do to fix your obviously broken ego. Perhaps if there is enough time in the matchup, you may want to GvG to settle the score.

We did not trash talk in your shoutbox, just for the record. Your own server and guild did. We just happened to notice. Also for the record, the trash talk about VP started after VP made up lies and trash talked KoM. And like you, we don’t give a kitten who other guilds or VP is. We just don’t want you making up bullkitten about us. Maybe you should keep your guild mates in check before you kitten off someone else on the forums.

Coincidentally this match up is extremely boring since we either find 1 person to fight with our 10, or we find 40-60. Not really much to play with this week so more time to be a forum warrior.

I highly doubt that somebody in DR is going to call out another DR guild. So I am assuming the guy is attached somehow to you, your guild, or your server.

This is what the so called “DR” guy posted in our forums.

FreakoRico said

Maybe because you lie? Killing siege is awesome props you stopped the wall from falling but saying you wiped a group and did not is pathetic.

and

I was on the wall with you guys running supply from the camp north of bay. I watched you flank kill siege and run into the tower. The you lit forworks and emoted the HoD guys then 4 minutes later BP ninja’d bay while you were being trolls.

Pay close attention to what this so called DR guy said…If this guy was running supply from north bay, why did he not notice that we were being attacked at north while we were protecting south? That is why I am going to call BS on this guy being from DR.

This reminds me of a different story that is very similar so I will confirm what really happened.

Yes, we did wipe a group that was on siege. Unsure what guild it was. If somebody called a guilds name in that group that we wiped on these forums, then shame on them.

Yes, we did use emotes and have fireworks. Not directed towards anybody. (if you get offended by stuff like this then I feel sorry for you) Remember this matchup is boring for all of us.

And Yes, sadly we got caught with our pants down and we lost Bay.

So I guess what I am saying is, why are you so mad, and why are you directing you animosity towards VP?

The people that posted on your shoutbox has no connection with us. So I have no idea who really could be. I apologize for falsely assuming it had to be your guild/server.

I am not mad about this situation. I’m just defending me and my guild from false claims and lies. Snow Ghost called us a fail group and you say you wiped a group there. We were the only ones up there (maybe a random person or two around us) and you did not wipe us. In fact I’m not sure you killed any of us. You are defending your guild right now just as I am doing. But it should be apparent to both of us, nobody is going to get anywhere cuz your delusions of grandeur and our stubbornness. Lets just say we are all crazy and kitten already. How does that sound?

Hey at least we can agree you guys lost Bay while staring at us to the south. I’ll let you in on a secret… we told BP to ninja while we distracted you! JK I’m making up kitten now.

AphoticEssance.7592:

Sigh… I did not want to post anything, but seeing people talk trash in our guild’s shout box speaks volumes to how mad you really are.

I am not sure where the trash talking started about VP, but I just want to say that we do not care what your guild name is, nor do we care who you are. Do not flatter yourself into thinking we care about your guild. We don’t. We only care about guilds in DR. We fight for DR, and if you get your feelings hurt along the way we do not care.

I am not sure what I can do to fix your obviously broken ego. Perhaps if there is enough time in the matchup, you may want to GvG to settle the score.

We did not trash talk in your shoutbox, just for the record. Your own server and guild did. We just happened to notice. Also for the record, the trash talk about VP started after VP made up lies and trash talked KoM. And like you, we don’t give a kitten who other guilds or VP is. We just don’t want you making up bullkitten about us. Maybe you should keep your guild mates in check before you kitten off someone else on the forums.

Coincidentally this match up is extremely boring since we either find 1 person to fight with our 10, or we find 40-60. Not really much to play with this week so more time to be a forum warrior.

Yalingto.6453:

Azgarn.2145:

You guys did hit us hard, I’ll give you that. Maybe if you tried to kill us first, not the siege, you would have succeeded. For clarification, scurrying back to bay refers to 3-4 that got away and ran inside bay and the rest of you regrouping there after you died. Anyway lets not sit in the past, we can move on from this. In preparation we will have fraps running so future encounters of VP can be recorded and used when you come to the forums being a pretentious kitten again.

I think this is what you are looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4orQIZ-YGAo

If you need help executing portals without dying you might want a server wide team speak. It is really helpful. That’s what we do and it usually works

I fail to see how this could be a response to what I said. KoM was not involved at all with that fight. And there is very little in that video that impressed me except the guardian’s ability to play zoomed in the entire time and at such a terrible camera angle. Oh and the music was nice.

When I mentioned Fraps, I meant we would have fraps running to prove that VP is full of poopy the next time KoM encountered them so you can’t run to the forums saying we fail and you wiped us when its not the truth. Btw Snow Ghost, you might want to check the shoutbox on your own website. Strange things are being said there…

Snow Ghost.6817:

Azgarn.2145
We got you and your buddies that were chillaxing in Bay to actually come out and fight, and wiped you. Of course your intention was to take out our siege and scurry back to bay cuz you couldn’t comprehend we just wanted to fight, we didn’t give a kitten about taking bay. But after that engagement you ran back into bay and sat up on the wall shooting fireworks while your keep was taken in front of your faces. Which was my favorite part btw.

Wipe us? Come on now. Behave please

How can we “scurry back to bay” if we have been wiped?

Please refrain from posting further as I fear you may hurt yourself in the process and that would make me sad.

/salute

You guys did hit us hard, I’ll give you that. Maybe if you tried to kill us first, not the siege, you would have succeeded. For clarification, scurrying back to bay refers to 3-4 that got away and ran inside bay and the rest of you regrouping there after you died. Anyway lets not sit in the past, we can move on from this. In preparation we will have fraps running so future encounters of VP can be recorded and used when you come to the forums being a pretentious kitten again.

Snow Ghost.6817:

I’m sorry, but I do not know who KOM are and I do not remember seeing you at all. I may be wrong but I have asked the guys.. and they don’t rmember you either.. Unless that was you guys failing at south bay gate? Where you there or are you wanting us to come find you or something?

With regard to your “just looking for roamers to gank” remark, you obviously have no idea who we are either.

I will be sure to look out for your guild tag from now on and say hi when we see you.

/salute

We got you and your buddies that were chillaxing in Bay to actually come out and fight, and wiped you. Of course your intention was to take out our siege and scurry back to bay cuz you couldn’t comprehend we just wanted to fight, we didn’t give a kitten about taking bay. But after that engagement you ran back into bay and sat up on the wall shooting fireworks while your keep was taken in front of your faces. Which was my favorite part btw.

Zizanzi.4678:

I wouldn’t be sorry nor apologize for it Lorek, nor stop them. Pretty much all night my little group only had 4 (1 BSTY/2 NoQQ/1 AD) and at one point got up to 6. Numerous times we would be fighting small unit stuff or against a zerg only to be added in on by KOM and/or PAXA when fighting enemies. They didn’t hesitate to add in so you shouldn’t either. They continue the advocation for small man but no honor of honoring those that are fighting small man on their part so why should anyone honor leaving their small man fights alone on our side when they add in themselves all the time no matter the circumstances.

Zizanzi (Stylii)
(NoQQ) Leader
ADNoQQBsty Alliance

Well I keep hearing about guild mates being solo and getting zerged by your group (btw lolz at the mass invis tactic to kill one person with your whole group), so there is no reason for us to honor or respect any fight you are engaged with. Which is why we will hit you any time you are spotted, even if you are engaged already. Respect works both ways. And like Aza said, it was very boring chasing you in circles around Vale. We figured pulling the npcs was the best chance at actually fighting you guys since you seem to run away any other time we come at you by ourselves.

codiac.5642:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Serious question, because I remember we talked about it a lot in our last matchup with HoD, and now it is the discussion of the day again in VoIP…

To you people on HoD, does it seem like you have an inordinate amount of Rangers? Like I said we have noticed this both matchups, I have never seen so many Rangers on any server.

Not saying it like a bad thing, and definitely not trolling ya, just wondering what was the catalyst for so many of them? Do you guys have a couple of epic ones that made others create them?

Again not trolling, they are very effective.

Not me in that, but we all try to be this good. We can only try though, since none of us are the best player in the game.

Thanks, I almost had to kill myself after watching that video, it was so painful…

And btw, every server has a ton of rangers now. Including SF. Sometimes I feel like you guys have zergs of just rangers.

I Monk For L O V E.7528:

Azgarn.2145:

Some SF commander stole my purple afro… He was killed for his blasphemies

Also, I’d like to thank the ET zerg for actually coming out of bay so we could turn you into mush. You guys took so long to attack us we said “screw it, lets just hit them.”

Thats our legendary commander Banjo Rodriguez, i will avenge him for all of SF! Runs into KoM group and dies in 5 seconds. That second screen is kinda funny not gonna lie, all of KoM is like about 80% HP, good wipe broskis

Yes I was hoping that was Banjo. Last time we were matched up against him I got killed and he did a shout out to me for the similar fro. Just returning the favor, Please dont make me a server bounty this time tho Or else I’ll have to stuff the afro inside my helmet where its really uncomfortable.

Some SF commander stole my purple afro… He was killed for his blasphemies

Also, I’d like to thank the ET zerg for actually coming out of bay so we could turn you into mush. You guys took so long to attack us we said “screw it, lets just hit them.”

azyume.6321:

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

We had 1 Random and that AC and zerg didn’t last long brah! ;]

Yes, we didn’t, but let’s show exactly why though: ; )

Exactly what was the problem? I count over 20 ET on your mini map and I know more had went to spawn from dying on the island. I see 7 SF (8 counting the one shooting you off screen). KoM had 8 and we were fighting 2 servers as well.

Want to thank ET and SF for the fights tonight in ET BL. Ruins and south island was a bloody mess and it was a great time. Want to shout out at the ET zerg that put up ACs to fight the 8-9 KoM and the few randoms around us. Nice moves.

katz.8376:

there has been a deplorable lack of SEXY SCORE SCREENCAPS lately…

so here’s me, bringing sexy back!

What happened to your face? Looks like a sick bear kitten on it.

JK had to say something.

All I can think about is how ET and FC cried about HoD numbers and mindless zerging to win blah blah blah. Well now you have bigger issues. I guess you can cry more, maybe it will help. Probly won’t reduce SF zerg numbers tho.

Scleameth.6809:

katz.8376:

wats wrong here. no drama. no scores. i iz sad

and i’ll mail you a copper tomrrow… i’m out for tjhe night. XD

HoD winning… that’s probably all we need to know. (hey look! They golem rushed our garrison water gate… again…)
Keep the faith Fergs! Show up and fight this green monster!

It’s good to meet you, HoD. Your krewe work on anti-electron collisions is unparalleled. And I’m a huge fan of the way you lose control and turn into an enormous green rage monster.

This thread sucks without drama and forum warriors going at it. I’ll just guess FC and ET don’t care this week and are just waiting for reset and for HoD to go away.

KoM would like to thank the ET zerg on ET bl tonight for the fun. Lot of fun fights and both sides kept coming back for more. Hopefully we can have more nights like this before this tier separates.

katz.8376:

lol?

occasionally getting ganked while running solo is… while annoying when it happens… to be expected in any game that involves players killing players. notice i never ever said anyone should stop doing that.

as for KoM… yeah, they got me a couple times this morning by blue tower. regarding round 2… yeah, no. no matter how much you beckon… i’m smart enough not to run to you solo when i already know you can kill me fast and hard. clever of you to send the big guy (guardian i think? not 100% positive) around the back of the tower to blindside me. kudos on that. however, the after celebration for killing a lone guardian was a bit… excessive… IMHO.

Agreed, being upset for getting killed by many when you are by yourself in a game with pvp is silly. It is going to happen. Frustrating at times tho. Sadly that’s all we agree on.

That was me btw, the norn that flanked you. I said, “Hey guys watch this”. It was entertaining. But I would also be entertained but pretty much anything… even watching Russell Brand try to be funny. For the record we weren’t celebrating on your body. Celebration would require accomplishing something difficult. I only cj and emote two kinds of people. Someone that cj’d or emoted me or my friends first, or some ignorant forum poster that insulted someone I like. Which brings me to my next topic.

You say you wouldn’t like it if Paxa or a similar guild was on your server instead of against you. You guys talk about how Paxa provides no help to a server cuz they just kill people and take camps to draw people in, they don’t actually try to add points to the tick for the server. You zerglings. sorry excuse me, you WvW players that enjoy massive fights and point captures just can’t understand that groups like Paxa and KoM do not give a kitten about the points. But also that doesn’t mean we aren’t contributing to our server, even tho we don’t really care about that either. With a very few we can distract and kill much larger numbers and be a huge pain in the kitten . You disagree that killing your enemy and keeping enemies occupied is helpful? Do you even notice there are people on the other servers or is wvw just green, blue, and red dots on your map with a couple numbers at the top of your screen?

Pandabro.8743:

I’d really like to see something that protects from condition removal.

Not something that necessarily removes the ability to remove conditions (That trivializes the matter) but forces the player to make a choice to cleanse or not.

For exampe: A condition that if it or other conditions on the target are cleansed then it “Explodes” dealing half the damage the conditions would have dealt over the full duration instantly.

Say a Ele has 12k worth of conditions on him, he can make a choice to keep those conditions on him and take the full duration or take 6k damage instantly and be very vulnerable to be finished off from quick burst. This would force players to think twice about cleanses instead of mindlessly spamming as much removal as possible. Still could be very beneficial to cleanse but it also could end up killing you.

I really like this idea. It fits the style of play Anet likes to go with and it would change the game for necros, making them much more viable in more situations. (Even tho I think most of their imbalance is in defensive ability/no mobility). Use this idea and make a unique icon or effect on the targets with this condition. 50% instant damage of the total bleed damage might be a bit much tho, I’d say reduce it to 33% maybe.

The problem with giving a necro more ability offensively and not giving them more access to stability or mobility would be they would be top priority in all fights. Most of the time in small fights necros are targeted first anyways, so this might only encourage necros to get more of a face pounding than they have in the previous months.

tuskan.1205:

Engi needs a nerf anet. They are just way to powerful. They have like every buff, can stealth for days, and their melee damage is just so op combined with their high armor rating. When is this class going to be balanced?

You forgot to mention the crazy amount of melee skills engi’s have. They have at least 2… thats insane! And Engi mobility, they can easily outrun a warrior. OP.

I’d like to clarify for the Devs. if they are reading this, that this thread is sarcasm. Gave me a good chuckle even. Anet keeps saying they don’t want to nerf skills that much but rather buff other abilities to variate builds, but that isn’t happening at all.

I was just in a supply camp and had a enemy ranger pet run in the middle of the camp to attack me, and my friendly npcs did nothing. I sure hope that it is not intended that ranger pets don’t aggro guards and enemy npcs in WvW. I thought the update was only changing ranger pets so they will not attack npcs if you had not already aggro’d them. Seems to be working as if npcs wont attack your pet unless it aggro’s them.

Anyone else see this happen?

I know there was already a lot of talk about it in the Patch notes thread but lets make one just for the healing turret.

First off the the regen from the turret must be bugged because it doesn’t seem to stack with other sources of regen. Anyone else notice this? Or do I have to do something special now to stack regen duration with the turret?

The way I see the healing turret now is this:
Drop healing turret -2675 heal.
Insta burst after dropping – 2675 heal, Clear 2 conditions
Pick up turret, Regenerating Mist.

Dropping the turret and picking it right back up is actually more efficient now than it was before. Thats the opposite of what the devs wanted to do. So props for that. The only way I see to make the turret effect enough while having it down on the battlefield for a prolonged period of time is keep the lower initial heal, have it pulse ~800 heal every 3s with 3s of regen and have the burst the same as it is now but reduce the heal to ~1200.

Also the health or toughness of the turret needs an upgrade if it is to be on the field very long. a few strong random aoes and it is dead.

Darek.1836:

Azgarn.2145:

Darek.1836:

Maybe we can do some 5v5 or less with PAXA. I know KoM is
good (could be argued just because they run 2 OP
HGH engis) but I’d like to see how good PAXA is too.

If could be argued that you make a lot of ignorant assumptions. We don’t run HGH builds. I’m too lazy to use elixers n stuff. Rather just spam nades into the zerg and get clumps of dead peoples.

okok I was mistaken sorry. I was kinda kitten off at how you guys got like 5% damage after we stacked 15s worth of retal accross all 5 of us and you both still spammed nades. Wtf is going on here??? lol

Good team functionality. Lots of group heals/regen and condi removal keeps us strong. But I will admit at times I do melt myself trying to nade groups with retal. Tis my worst enemy and I hates it, precious.

Darek.1836:

Maybe we can do some 5v5 or less with PAXA. I know KoM is
good (could be argued just because they run 2 OP
HGH engis) but I’d like to see how good PAXA is too.

If could be argued that you make a lot of ignorant assumptions. We don’t run HGH builds. I’m too lazy to use elixers n stuff. Rather just spam nades into the zerg and get clumps of dead peoples.

dank.3680:

Horth.7609:

Azgarn.2145:

Not that I really understand zerg mentality anyways, but Im baffled at why there is a NSP zerg at Mendons/HoD spawn when they have only 125 points and the only thing they control in EB is 1 supply camp. I guess maybe its to roflstomp the 2 players in the valley there. Effective use of time NSP.

That is strange. Look at the XoXo scrub in the middle of the zerg stomping roamers. Typical ;] I can’t explain why my server does the things they do at least were not pvdooring though! right? :]

Ahh but actually I ran around in circles around the KOM guy without attacking him while he got zerged, because I knew he would come to the forums and cry about it..

I’m sure you can figure out a reason that a large zerg would be running around grabbing supplies when they don’t own any of their map.

Yeah going ALL the way to Mendons to get supply rather than take nearby supply camps is great logic.

Not that I really understand zerg mentality anyways, but Im baffled at why there is a NSP zerg at Mendons/HoD spawn when they have only 125 points and the only thing they control in EB is 1 supply camp. I guess maybe its to roflstomp the 2 players in the valley there. Effective use of time NSP.

Zeke Minus.5720:

The idea of a Necro seems fundamentally flawed at the moment, in the notion that we should be an attrition class. I find myself really only in need of one thing, and that’s the ability to obliterate mobility.

Necros need more immobilizes. As a class that should be hard to escape from, our ability to negate mobility should be on par with the ability to be mobile as a Thief. Simply, a Necro should generally be able to make it difficult for a Thief to escape.

I’m okay with not being mobile. I understand that a Necro’s way around combat is at a slower pace, but in exchange for being able to potentially last longer*. Necromancers need more tools to be able to be the one profession that can lock an opponent down and keep them from escaping.**

*Debatable, at this point.

**We have this in a perma-chill build, but even then, it’s not ideal and even sometimes impractical.

Rennoko.5731:

Adjust/lower cast times and make chill actually do something to thieves skills. The class mobility frankly is a non-issue for me now as I have gotten used to it. Currently my only other beef is how easy conditions are removed in mass. I think all FULL clear conditions should be changed to just three conditions, and necro should get a trait for skill that give condition cleans a chance to fail.

I agree with both of you and it is well said. It would take some tweaks like these to really change the whole situation of a necro in this game. I love the idea that Anet created for necros and I’m sure it looked good on paper but it’s flawed in reality. Can hope that Anet sees what we see and makes some adjustments to put necros at full potential.

Ratphink.4751:

1. A. Why would you put a leap on the Scepter. It’s a ranged weapon that is best suited for keeping opponents at a distance… and lookit that. It has an AoE cripple to help you do just that. Arguably speaking, the weapon best suited for any kind of leap towards target would be the Dagger.

True the scepter is already ranged and dagger would be more appropriate for a leap, but as I was thinking at the time, scepter 3 would be easiest to integrate to a leap with the current skills without changing much.

Ratphink.4751:

B. It’s not that your idea is too much akin to Spectral Walk (though it definitely is), but that it’s basically a carbon copy of Portal without the Team Functionality.

To make my point clear though, the problem isn’t that we have lack mobility. It’s that we lack the ability to prevent other classes from disengaging which is more in line with what the developers want. However the current amount of cleansing makes this extremely problematic to actually achieve. We have chills and cripples, we also have them in the form of gap closers (spectral grasp and dark path) however something is not working in that these skills simply aren’t landing due to pathing/speed issues.

More of a copy to Shadowstep on a thief as I mentioned, except with different visual effects and the spectral buff of life force gain on hit for the duration. Like I said tho, up for more ideas on the mobility issue. Altho I do like your argument about the bigger issue being disengaging opponents, I still think some amount of mobility should be required for all professions to keep the playing field somewhat level. A huge part of this game is avoiding big damage, not trying to mitigate it. With slow speed, minimal dodging, and no mobility skills, the necro is most likely to be force to take that big damage. We do have the DS hp to help deal with that but it just feels so clunky to me. Perhaps that is from my first toon being a thief. Also in WvW its insanely difficult to dodge a zerg that you weren’t prepared for and its unfair to say "because of the nature of a necro and how we want it, you should just accept that you might as well stand there and let the zergs crush you while your friends zip off into the sunlight, scratch-free. Not saying we need a get out of jail free skill but at least a better option than currently available.

Ratphink.4751:

3. People keep telling me that I hate Reanimator. “Everybody hates it.” “Nobody likes it.” Please stop making these great sweeping declarations for other people. I find arguments to be more compelling when they don’t involve rationales that imply everybody agree’s with you already (if everybody everywhere agreed that this trait needed to go, Anet would have replaced it because they’d have agreed it needed to go. See the dilemma?). That aside, I genuinely don’t mind it. I don’t love it, nor do I hate it. It’s there and wholly tolerable. Moving on.

I wasn’t making the argument that everyone hates it and wants it gone. You and a lot of people don’t mind it or have issues with it, but I’m confident that if it was replaced with a much more useful trait you and the other would not complain. That is what I was going for. Replacing reanimator with a trait that was better all the way around.

Ratphink.4751:

4. Stability is really the game breaker and I’m in agreement. We need access to this in order to be a proper attrition class. This is again linked to the question of ‘do we need mobility’. No, we need more adequate tools in order to sustain damage and remain in control of the fight. Necros have no means of escaping players, therefore we need the means to stay up and fighting because we don’t have a reset button. Every fight is a fight to the death because that’s the only alternative to winning.

So more reliable/effective snares + access to Stability would go a very long way to making us the Attrition class Anet keeps talking about.

Completely agree.

Also I’d like to see some better or improved elite skills. I feel like adding in an elite that worked off the normal skillset somehow would be amazing. The transformations are decent skills but have long cooldowns and are easily countered with ranged dps and boon removal.

So everyone knows Necros are valuable in group fights and can be difficult opponents when played well, but will always be on the short end compared to any other class other than warriors which are in similar situation fundamentally. Other professions can do almost everything necros can do and more, and have more mobility, fluid skill use, escape ability, and boon access. Necro imo is a very good class and fun to play, but just so clunky and slow. So I’ve thought of some things to bring them up to speed that doesn’t go outside of what you would consider a necro skill or ability.

1. Lets give necros some mobility. Two ideas to do this.
A. Scepter 3 attack, Feast of Corruption. Make it a melee, leaping attack to add some gap closing ability/mobility and a leap finisher and adds some flair as you jam your scepter in your foes face and rip his corruptions out. Or instead you could do this to Unholy Feast, the Axe #3 but I like the scepter idea more.

B. Remove a spectral utility skill, imo spectral wall (yes i know its a decent skill but its the least used in my experience) and add a new skill, Spectral Portal. Basically like thief shadowstep except with Necro style. 900 range port that keeps a return ability open for 8s and gives the spectral life force gain on hit as long as the portal is open. Might be a bit too much like Spectral Walk, but open for suggestions to help the idea.

2. Slow, Clunky skill use. Necros have some great skills with off hand weapons and some utility skills that are bogged down with ridiculous cast times or lengthy animations/slow projectiles. It’s impossible to time skills with 1+ second cast times. Your target is most likely going to move out of range/los, evade, block, go invulnerable, or do something by the time you finally hit your target. Whats the tactic for these skills? “Im gonna use it now and hope it hits him when it gets there or actually goes off”? Speed the pace up and increase effectiveness.

3. Reanimator. People have complained about it for long enough, so lets just get rid of the trait and replace it with something necros do need. One of these perhaps:
A. Increased endurance regen or vigor upon crit.
B. 5-8% chance to turn a boon into a condition on hit.
C. 5% chance to fear foe when hit.

4. Necrotic Grasp. Staff auto attack is frustratingly slow. If I can almost outrun it myself, Im not gonna hit many mobility enemies with it. Speed that crap up a bit. Other than that staff is great.

5. Stability and Boon access that is not dependent on DS. Fury, retaliation, and stability is only given or most reliably given when entering DS. We should have access to these boons in another way that is not so dependent on a DS build. Especially stability since we have only 3 stun breaks which really have no place in certain builds. And any access to vigor would be just dandy.

These are my ideas, I think I had more but I can’t remember them right now so this is what Im gonna post. Hopefully these ideas trend and Anet likes them. Positive or constructive criticism only please.