Guild Wars 2

Marksman steady focus and spotter are always traited, no eagel eye or piercing arrow. PvE meta builds are melee based, so plz stop using useless bow traits.

skirmishing I + V to push pet dmg, quickdraw is not needed cause we use no bow, if their is a situation you can still swap the trait short (but no need in 98% from the pve content)

NM you always got the vigorous spirit 15 or 25 version.

if you play with 30 in marksman you play with remorseless, signet of beastmaster is only needed for skipping if you rly need it

Myrmix.5460:

You mean, compared with other ranger-builds, this build does dmg, yeah.
But compared with other classes, our power-dmg is ridiculous. (warrior, powernec, guardian, ele, thief, and I think even engineer can do better)

not true..yes ele/guard/thief deal more dmg in group line ups but with the ranger you can deal about the same dmg like a war

for pve, the thief can stay the range that he want and got the same dps, so he can get all group buffs.

and for wvw the thief can take the better escape and burst utilities with lower cd than the ranger

so for booth the thief got the better points..and if you want range dps take a staff ele or granate engi :>

even if the zerker nerf will hit us all and much zerker meta builds used assasins piece and much people allready told that the will change back to full zerker
And this is the point where a ranger in every group could be much more helpful than now, because the spotter trait will be stronger than now.

What you guys think about this change?
Is it the chance to prove that ranger are better than most people got in mind and i don’t talk about bearbow..they suck.

PS: yes i know how nice a well played 20/25/0/25 ranger is now, but most people still don’t know that

xyonon if your drop low hp stay on with your mates, if you drop alone far away from the rest no one got a benefit if you lie their, problem is you can take aggro and than all moby run crazy in the room..bad for everyone

if you drop sometimes..it happens, press 1 like hell wait for 3 and get a low hp target and call it, better than to rezz someone up

lol i deal more dmg with sword auto and my attack rate is much higher..dont know how you can call this dmg Oo

people that asked for this “perma remove/stow” never looked in our traits or? Oo

Xyonom plz drop the mainhand axe :>
S/wh s/d s/a

Gs even hits only 3 targets Oo
But gs is rly the best choise cause of the evade !

If you got a group that stacks might…than the shortbow, if you just can stay 1000+ it’s lb
I’ve got booth weapons in my inventoy but they are not often used

http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNBMhj6koiILrqwKIWLDELF7Z/cGHKReGlCVZs0JvkA-jwBBYfC0kFhmKAIzsIasFVFRjVXDT5iIqWKgnGDA-e

ranger runge is a kitteneaper, but i don’t know what the patch will make with it so maybe use rubys and wait for the next patch

the 10% are overall, the war lose about 3%, ranger about 10%…

sorry chocklata,youre wrong with this informations, that ranger is for extra dmg support, thats true

but his own dmg grows so hard in good groups !
what you do there is nice, if people not good with dodge your build can be nice, but not for dps oriented groups

20/25/0/25

best you can bring into a party, for personal and group dps, vul with 30 in nm is most time not needed and your own dmg with 25 in nm is higher than with 30 in mm.
but overall it make no huge difference.

s/wh s/d and if some extra reflect needed s/axe but only than, 4 is nice for dmg, but the utility with s/d+wh is better and the offhand axe #5 is a dps loss if you not reflect something.
pets should be jungel stalker and jaguar, moa only if the group have no 100% fury uptime.

ranger deal nice damage, the problem is.
you need a good group, with nice buffing group you deal more dmg than warris

problem is..you need a good groups for this

nope, thieves are not faster than warriors

why would it nerf your server if you solo roam? Oo

lb and combo fields deal more dmg than sword auto?
okay..now i want to know how this work with combo fields

and than tell me why you dont need frost-spirit if you want to increase your team dps more than personal?

and sorry guy, only cause you lvl 50. it has nothing to do with your a pro..i saw so much people that suck so hard with their classes, BUT i dont want to evaluate you know.

and i want to know why 30/30 would deal more dmg than 20/25/0/25

ingorant when you think you need it

it´s better to rezz with kill an enemy than rezz with signets they are just panic button and if you know when to doge you dont need them, for what a cleric guard? Oo

sorry guy, but your arguments are weak.

and the biggest joke that your rly thing you deal the same dmg with lb..
axe offhand is most time not needed and weak, if you got a got guard

awge.3852:

Your first challenge in WvW will be killing thieves as a ranger. To achieve such a feat there, at least against a thief that is more or less around your skill level, you need to change your build to be more robust. Not to mention that as a ranger who likes to use bows, you will likely want to participate in large scale battles.

I would recommend the following modifications:
1. WvW overall large scale fight build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQNAT8fjEVV2NWGWo2Bi1DCFoB1ewJzjpXh0fyKm0K-jgxAofB5EYR0YrtFRjVvgpLJiq9HFRrGA-e
2. WvW overall roaming build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQNAV8fjEVV2NWGWo2Bi1DBRoB1ewJzf+Xh0fyKi2K-jgBBofBCJEOPqIasVTFRjVJjIqWpEDA-e

Note how both keep very similar trait lines, this provides with high power, high condi damage and high toughness for survival. Main difference: the gear, which you will have to change on the fly. If you know you are roaming stick to the condition gear as it provides much higher survival chances (especially against thieves). Change to power build gear on the fly on large scale fights.

Side note:
So why is defeating thieves your first challenge? Simply put, if you cannot do this you will lack skill as a ranger in WvW and will be confined to the safety of playing in groups. Your world is doing bad and you are outmanned; scratch that, your world is winning but everyone is too far out in the map to reach within 5 minutes… it’s quite likely you will find more than a couple of enemies (if not thieves) roaming around. Either of these can be frustrating.

Anyways lots to say here, I hope you take what works for you from this comment, good luck!

sorry but booth builds are kind of useless ><
first got to much def even for a zerg and the second, for what you got heal power with only hs?

^signet ranger..and your out

and with ranger with ascended you dont need assasins gear -.-
with ascended trinkets and weapons you reach the crit chance cap you need and with ascended armor it´s even more waste of points

sorry with the last war and war..was in ingame and just wrote it on second screen, pug groups just want to clear the dungeon, if you want to play the normal way..do it but search for it

wow..this is so funny

blame zerker gear cause people cant play with it..the problem is not the zerker gear..it´s the kittening content !
and if you say you could play your war you just cant your ranger

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-F;4wEkx-h2VDV-0;9;4JO-O-06-04;234;25N0-L;1zxrUzxrUm-FvVH;0S;1VOVTWYXcYi3o_-o-G-2ih

20/25/0/25 is better..you deal more dps with this build and vul is not not your job to stack as a ranger

edit: sorry yelloweyedemon i was tired

i dont need to stack vul, that make a engis/wars or ele my personal dps is much higher, i got the frostspirit for the party, personal burst with z4 and pet burst with sic’em, you got not 1 dmg multiplicator in your trait line so, yes i deal much more dmg than you

and i dont know how you want to outburst me, with lb+axe/horn you got no burst even if you pop all your stuff my auto-hits still deal more dmg
again i tell you, it´s okay when you like to play your build, but don´t tell us you deal the same amount of dmg or it´s the same lvl on effective

and weapon swap..every s/wh+s/d take it on cd

Rym.1469:

In current state, they should have:
1. Delete almost 60-70% of current Ranger.
2. Get to work, get the kitten(pets) done
3. Make pet to work more like a extra, very small damage, but instead very survivable and utility-providing tool
4. Sit for a month and re-do all ranger weapons besides GS, Dagger and Warhorn, remake all Ranger traits, make new utilities from a scratch
5. Give the Ranger something considerable as Bow
6. Erase #1 spam-to-win gameplay from Ranger
7. Give more functionality
and full control over pets. 3/4 of pets revmaped to actually be worth picking and having great utility/variety which do work.

Here, God according to Bible made the World in 7 steps, 7 days.
I’m sure that ArenaNet could make a new Ranger also

tool

and what is with the people that like the ranger the way he is? Oo
maybe we need some small changes but not the way you want

WTF !?
i said 1000 times their is no need for mm 30 points so i never got singet of beastmaster and i deal a lot mor dmg than you..you got hugh numbers with SoH and and axe 3..your pet deal a bit more dmg and you deal about..i even dont want to call it dmg.

and with a good group the dmg amount that i deal more will go much higher

and kilandros a war deal not more dmg than a ranger..the warri dmg is on mid tier same like ranger

Dalanor.5387:

Signet of the beastmaster is only good (corrrect me if not) at dredge fractal where you can get a ton of invuln especially if you are a sylvari.

so often done 49..never needed

…i did not said that you are a bm bunker but it got his reason why the people dont take to much in bm..it´s nice that your pet deal such a massive dmg but my pet deal a good constant dmg and me much more than you, so it´s a beastmaster build cause i play with my pet and make the dmg together with my pet

for what you need healpower in pve? Oo
wtf !?
in frac´s and dungeons are some bosses where the pet mechanic wont work, the 30 points in bm will not change this and your pet deal more dmg with 20 points in skirmishing than with 30 points in thats why the bm bunker get away from 30 in bm tree

20 points in mm not more..dont know why brazil told this in the last video, it´s bullkitten

vul and might got stacked by other classes, but you can help sure.
we got the worst power scaling but is still the base dmg for high crits, so it is not such a waste of trait points and we got no other traitline where we could get a nice dmg boost, so it´s okay

they can..but much classes need to stack preci or need preci buff-food so more power.
with my ranger and a disi banner my ranger got 103% crit chance

a bit to much but i have no assasin piece but it´s okay, with might, stacks,etc. i can get close to 5k attack

other classes even need to go for some traits to be good in zerker groups, so where is the problem?

every moa got a heal on the passiv attacks

every moa heals, but one can buff prot for 4 secs

sure, than i take the moa for extra prot, but will not be perma, for that we all need much boonduration

kyubi.3620:

. Pet at 25 might stack should at least be able to do 4k auto attack

srsly?
you make something wrong, my jaguar crits without frostbite or SoH for ~5-6k
thats the reason i called my jaguar choop choop dmg (warri axe auto-attack)

Norjena.5172:

We should try to make a lvl 49 video without dogding.

We need 1 ranger 1 Ele 1 guard, probably engineer/warrior and something else.

i´m the ranger
Spirit of nature OP

with zerg i have to doge with full cleric not, hmm what gameplay destroys boss mechanics!?

but the best point is, that in public groups, everyone know what he should bringt to the group guards/mesmer for reflect, war for banner, ele for fgs/frostbow, thief when stealth helps, engi for vuln and extra might…e.g. BUT the most ranger do…nothing.
i think this is the big point, a person that brings nothing for the group is like a person that got no exp with the run and this is a rly dangerous part, it would be okay if someone tell it before the dungeons starts so you can tell him what to do and where to doge, but if someone brings nothing and says nothing ~.~

funny..lvl 50 with cleric?
i love people like this xD
it makes not huge difference if you got pvt or zerker, just burst the enemy down and doge/block when you have to…wtf this people that post in a pvp thread learn to doge but in the pve they play cleric.

okay but srsly now, i´ve done some 49 the last days again with some mates and most time 1 was afk, no one needs to repair and we finished normally >50 mins, but i want to now how they do the dredge frac with cleric, it makes no difference if they nuke you down in 3 secs or in 5 secs Oo

and for the build 30 in marksman is never needed, if you need a panic button take lightning reflexes or protect me

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full zerker with frostspirit+spotter
best build for frac, nice for melee groups and even pub with range
s/wh+s/d harpyien frac with s/wh+s/a

if you cant play it..learn to play, maybe start with some soldier armor and swap from time to time

builds like durzlla are the problem that you have a harder time cause they dont bring enough dmg and they cant rly tank more in the higher frac lvl

<- main ranger and i hate most of the other rangers, they play worser than the most other classes and if you ask to join the group playstyle it seems to me it would be worse than I had huffily their mother -.-

but any viable ranger build got the condi remove..
and your cd for the burst you got is to high and the pressure to low

sword #2 and #3 are fine and good how they work, plz never change this -

it would be okay if they work a bit on auto hit, but dont destroy our highest mobility weapon

for wvw zerg it is okay like the 30/x/30 signet way but for pve it´s to much waste of trait points

^yes serraphim

@archon we do not say the only good build are without bow, but most of the stronger build are without and dont need any bow

this is not true..the base dmg is much higher..it deals more dmg than earth

this is not true manekk, fire deals more base dmg than condi dmg with earth and its aoe