condi rangers cant roam. no target drops, no real escapes. more than 3 competent players get on you and ure done. cant really “roam” without GS and a bunch of stun breakers. best roaming build is probably LB/GS themed because u have spammable target drop and a disengage.
i think u guys are confusing roaming with dueling. rangers are great at dueling.
wtf are you talking about!?
sword disengage is much stronger than gs, its not so easy but if you know how to deal with it a far better option
Conclusion:
- make 1500 range default on the longbow
- make remorseless default behaviour.
- move Spotter to the Skirmishing trait line
no way, spotter is in a good postitions, mabye it could be move to an adebt triat.
skirmishing is fine to push the pet dmg in a offensiv build, so the ranger got prezi/crit dmg what is stronger on a ranger than the power and its emprove or pet dmg !?
AWESOME
On behalf of [Team] guild – I would like to thank most of the “pro” guilds on GH and Kodash for their help in letting us own them. You keep trying so hard, but soon you will learn to just flee in fear whenever you see [Team] on the horizon.
but ChioChip problem with builds like this is, you can suprise peopele but every not braindead enemy (i now most people in wvw are braindead) are prepared after they got the first lb shot and they see if you swap on gs and they will block/evade/doge/blind your maul problem on sigent zerker builds is, their are one time wonder, but i never meet one that brings me in dangerous situation(i roam with ranger,thief,warrior and ele) ranger is not a burst class, we have spells that pushs or dmg but not like other classes so we got 3 option and for solo roaming 2:
condition dmg (no option for you but on ranger in pvp they are much stronger than power builds)
or sustained dps, with booth option we need TIME, so what we can do that we got time, we can kite and evade, with good opening dmg that we got with the right pets you just need to pressure more on target and GG
signet+zerker ranger is nice to farm noobs, but tell me is this rly what you want to do!?
for myself..nope i want to play and stay again better enemy and with a singet+zerker ranger they will rolf stomp you.
trust me, i know many solo roamer and everyone laughs about builds like yours :/
@Serraphin: Suck it up, Snowflake. I said perma-stow option. You can still play with your we-todd-ed pet if you want. No one would be stopping you. Preception of those people who would still use pets is irrelevant. 2ndly, it’s not a damage “boost” it’s taking that the damage that Anet gives to the pet from the Ranger because they expect the pet to have a 100% uptime and giving it back to the Ranger. It’s not a boost. It’s still there just given completely to the Ranger instead of sharing with the pet.
@thefantasticg: What do you exactly mean with the “search and rescue”-thing? Why would you prefer ressing a defeated player over a downed one?
Long time ago the Search and Rescue use to work on downed or defeated. Then they “fixed” it to work “as intended” which was to res only downed players. Problem is the time it takes for the pet to stop whatever it is doing, get over to the player, and then it actually work (they improved this slightly in one patch) made the skill pointless after the “fix” because 8/10 times the player was defeated by the time the pet got to them, and thats if they were in range. Now with the 2000 unit range limit is even more worthless to have. It was what I brought into dungeons and made it worth bringing my ranger (besides healing spring, of course).
no the people would be punished if you would do the same dmg like a ranger that can play with the pet, cause its harder and needs more skill
you do not get what off hand training does . It increases the AOE as well , which is the most important part of it
TRUE !
insane for every offhand weapon just take a look at bonfire(torch5) with and without the trait
throw torch with 1200 range is so nice in wvw/spvp you got a low hp target that run away, throw torch and GG :p
edit: i think you dont rly get what ranger can do and where we are strong and where we are weak..
Lol I haven’t lost a pet to alpha in months and I play coe all the time. I love using me some sword on some alpha.
yea i run the might stacking sword build. i actually use cats and they rarely die to alpha. sword with 100% crit dmg is some of the highest dps u can get in dungeons. 3-4k dps i believe, if not higher.
it is higher, without bloodlust and all buffs (banner, vulnerability..) i got 2,9-3,4k hits, my pet auto atk is about ~1 a sec and it hits for 2,5-5 k
if you take the lowest dmg numbers and one chain = 1 1/2 sec
3 × 2,9k (sword auto) + 2,5k (pet auto-hit) = 11,2k
and for the real dps it would be 7,5k dps, sounds good for me
and their is the fire sigil that i use you got some extra dmg every ~6 sec
for pve the ranger is full okay, so much groups like good ranger for speedruns i just tell them that i play melee ranger with frost-spirit and most groups take, 90% of the time they wrote some jokes than like sorry got i mind you play longbow bull-**** blabla and this is totaly fail in 95% of the pve content
in coe i make with one sword chain 1 1/2 seconds about 9k, every hit is about 3k+pet dmg, sometimes its more, sometimes its a bit less, perhaps to the group, with banner of diziplin its better and 25 stack vul+might
but i use sigil of fire cause its a extra dmg burst every 6 seconds
my pet get 25 stacks might all time with skirmishing V and sword auto chain
for every might stack i got my pet got 1 for 10 sec.
Just so you know, this forum is extremely negative and what someone sees as “useless,” another sees as “great.” Case in point, this thread, you and the 2 other posts i quoted
ok man… but 2 positive feedback over 13 posts… aren’t so good…
and nothice that A “was partially positive…” and B “was positive only for a single boss in the new living world”… so i don’t think that’s enough. The aim of the sticked thread is to help players to find their build not to make a list of tons of builds half of what are good only for a single thing (not reported in notes) and not optimized (i suppose)… but the thread is yours… i was only trying to help better beginners.
aha and whats with your guide?
feedback from people that we never saw in this forum was, great i give it a try and from people that play ranger for more than 2k hours and testet so much builds!?
B2T:
still same problem as every zerker ranger, in small-sacle you will be hard kitten d..why?
if they see ohh zerker or longbow ranger, one thief jump on you and you dead.
trust me man, today we running around with 5 people and everytime lb ranger was in the enemy group he cant do a kitten
take healspring for dungeons and wvw, the water field and condi remove are to strong, signet of stone is useless if you not got 30 points in marksman, longbow/shortbow is a nice kombo but normaly just shoud have one melee weapon and main it.
melandru rune is only usefull in wvw.
just should take 2 builds, one for wvw and one for pve, but the ranger is not so great in zerks but very nice in small groups !
and you should swap the pets, cause bears deals about zero dmg and their sustain is not so good even if they have 4800 vit.
drakes/cats a much better in pve and wvw they should build a to your balance build or strengthening it.
2500hours on ranger
1200 tpvp matches
all dungeons
personal frac lvl 50, i´ve done 79 3 times
about 20k wvw kills
just nope, it´s true they told that the ranger is a archer, but they even told us that you have to play with your pet, that it is a part of us
and even that the game mechanic will be melee dmg > range dmg
i dont know why everyone want a longbow, still bad dps so only sword/gs but dont know if i rly need them, the stats are not so much better so i dont rly care ^^
healingspring <3
troll urgent is even nice, if you play against condi spammer it still heals you up or you dont lose much hp, i dont like heal as one and never use it.
its a nice burst heal but the other booth heals you up for more
true, i got a build in mind but not with full assasins, just to push a bit preci/power for a spirit and a trapper build, but first i wanna see what the patch will make with the ranger ^^
come on guy..this in not longer funny, i dont know where you tested this build in pvp, but you not even shown in the tpvp leader, so you not made 10 games and hot join does not count cause every build is good their.
this build can work, yes but not like you discripe this build and against all of them.
how much dmg you get with one barrage hit on a thief?
lol i just tell what the problem on this builds, my main is still a ranger so calm down
i have more chars than my ranger and i only play wvw and tpvp and never saw ranger like this build that are rly hard or a problem and this is what you try to tell in this thread, but thats a lie.
i love my ranger and make more fun than every other class in this game but make what you want..if i met you i´m happy about a free kill
warrior (bunker): really easy if not regen build (just burst them) quite hard if regen is up because we have to start with poison (don’t wait for 50% because their heal will be at 90% healing signet which can heal for 3k on activation) and then burst them while their regen is halved also maximize your dps and use tricks to defeat him
how you want to burst my worri with 3,5k armor!?
i take about 2k bs from thiefs..with shildstance and the cc you cant kill a cc-def worri, in small fights i even dont care about zerker ranger, cause their burst is easy to see/evade
actually a rapid fire with maximized dps deal more damage than a back stab.
infact ((0.375 * 10) * (2300) * (1000) / 3500 ) * (1 + 50%) = 2464 + 1232 = 3692 damage with a rapid fire without considering crits (70%), vulnerability (20 stacks) and might stacks ^^ add to this “little damage” (would be like 5-6k in reality) poison, pet attacks, immobilize and stuns… and the game is done. Maybe this would be a bit long fight if you have 3500 armor and 22k+ hp… but this also mean that you are our personal toy :P
ps: this isn’t a full zerker build
pss: oh and i love when in hearth of the mists bunkers don’t care about my attacks (because this happen… seriously someone still think that our burst is uselss) and i love too when i down them in 10 sec ^^ and notice that also if you consider “ranger burst” low you have also to consider 20 vuln stacks, 18 sec poison, cripple and immobilize/stun … so to ignore a ranger will never be a good choice
but you said its an easy 1on1..i dont get how, if i got you one time in my cc-chain your done, i can easy eavde and block your dmg but you cant deal with the pressure you got with my gs/mace+shild it would be totaly easy to take out your sos and nuke you down than, i never got a lb dmg ranger than was dangerous for my life..
my main i still the ranger and i tested much with builds like this, its nice to farm some people in wvw but if you get rly enemy´s that can handel their class your gone
warrior (bunker): really easy if not regen build (just burst them) quite hard if regen is up because we have to start with poison (don’t wait for 50% because their heal will be at 90% healing signet which can heal for 3k on activation) and then burst them while their regen is halved also maximize your dps and use tricks to defeat him
how you want to burst my worri with 3,5k armor!?
i take about 2k bs from thiefs..with shildstance and the cc you cant kill a cc-def worri, in small fights i even dont care about zerker ranger, cause their burst is easy to see/evade
but one question..why and for what we need a riffel?
we got the longbow for dmg on long rang, we got the shortbow for condition and skirmishing, what we could get with the riffel?..would be the same than longbow..yay
Ugh no, if I wanted to be an engineer I’d be an engineer, I chose ranger for having my pets.
Granted, I wouldn’t be opposed to us summoning the pet (does the F2 immediately) and then helps us fight for X seconds before leaving, that would be totally fine in my book.
^this is
on the day when pet removed from the ranger is stop playing
Rangers are hunters. Rangers should be able to equip hunting rifles.
Why not equip spirit bullets?
What about the lone ranger? He uses rifles.
What is the definition of a ranger? It’s a person who uses weapons at a distance.
And if you’re talking about common sense, why can warriors
use BOTH longbow and rifles? That makes them more of a ranger than us, and they have more melee damage than us.
Rangers can equip buckshot ammo or have rapid fire with their rifle.
probably you dont understand that ranger is means not range..
this will be never happen with a zerg..its nice to get “so much” singel target dmg but the aoe from ele,thiefs,necros,engis and worris is still stronger..:/
if you want perma stacking might for pet sb,axe and sword are much better !
even if you can hit a short time much stacks with barrage..most time you got about the half
yes is it true, but it will be nerfed..the build is like, you get condi dmg, heal power and armor and evades, that how you play and stand. make pressure with your condis..and than thier is your pet, it will deal the normal dmg :p
just search in this forum..you will get much bunker builds
haha poor vz lnm were on kodash bl that time.. same as that kill guild from kodakitten least speak when you know where your guilds are… and honestly farming you was fun but the lag and blob are boring have fun in t1 or what ever tier,without your organized guilds you get worse and worse every month… I really hope we meet other servers next week that dont think that pvd and ac are the way to play the game.
/sign
was a funny week to kill so much people and zergs from the “big and best eu server”
if this is the way to be the best server..sorry a-net big fail, i know why sfr dont want to play against you
