Some ppl think oooo its just a minor stat increase on 2 rings, yes just for NOW, after this they will release other pieces that are better than exotics, after they finished this tier gear release(light purple) they will finally introduce us to all Legendary tier(purple) pieces and this game will become Farmers Wars 2. Its not releasing better gear piece make us mad, its they break their promise and we need to play a game that no longer has one of our initial reason to buy this game(no power creep). I guess I will just play pandas if this game falls into the way other MMOs stepped, at least I have more friends playing panda lands.
And this is only 3 months after game launched…think about it…
when our highest damage attack longbow auto attack missing all day on moving targets at long range even mid range, and you will feel its your lucky day that your pet hit your target once or twice during combat even with 30% movement buff. If these are solved yes ranger can do more damage than a warrior at ranged. On the other hand being able to 1shot ppl at ranged distance is way different from doing consistent damage. Not many ranger have signet of stone + protect me for 9-12 sec protection (depend on your pet and if enemy is bursting damage during protect me), and at ranged war our traps dont work cuz they dont need to get close. With their heavy armor and our buggy arrows it will be a close battle on damage output if they dont use kill shot, but they can so you can not dodge so much since you always need a 50% endurance in the bag to dodge kill shot. Still back to the point that being able to one shot ppl gives you a huge advantage in zerg combat in which you never know when your battle against your target will get interrupted by others and so many things happen in the same time(kill shot is easily avoidable on 1v1, but not during a zerg fight).
I main a glass cannon ranger which prob the worst thing you can have in this game besides a spirit or pet ranger. And I have a guardian alt.
I basically lvled my ranger in WvW so I think I have enough experience to say about fighting against thieves, burst damage or back stab thieve is not the kind of thieves to be called OP, because they CAN be killed, if you know they are coming and managed to survive their first few attacks. I am totally fine when I was running around alone and get one shotted by a thief when I dont pay attention cuz thats what this class made to be. The real OP thieves are those who traited heavily into stealth and use all 3 slots for escaping/survival skills with crit gears or full condition gears because they are nearly impossible to kill and still can beat you down faster than you can due the overall weapon skill damage.
I dont care those of the most stupid thieves who just spam heartseeker or waste all their initiatives in 1st 10 sec they meet you. Warriors are a better class for those thieves btw.
But thief is incredibly overpowered when they try to play smart, not even play really smart, just try to play smart.
The OPness of theif is not the damage output, its the overall thief stealth mechanic that is way too cheap in this game.
sword dagger is a really fun combination in pve, but still since ranger is mid armor and not having much front line survival ability its not a very useful thing in WvW zerg fighting. On 1v1 it is ok/good depends on your skills and armor choice.
Thank you, this is what we want to hear about, im glad develop team realize the problem of rangers lack of build diversity, I hope we can finally get some fun ranger build going well.
I was 1st in the side on dont reroll a warrior just play what we have here, now I am on the side of just reroll a warrior since Anet gonna buff that class into even developers can play that. I think at this point Anet is satisfied on their perfect balance and bug fix on this prof, and our class will become the true fun of this game is about because we are now the class every other players have fun to beat against.
I agree with your idea that ranger weapons provide great kite ability, but kite ability doesnt mean control ability. I have encountered millions of times that my opponents just run away from me when they realize they are in a bad position against me, our ability to make someone stay is terrible, if we are control expert then Necro is control master while Mesmers are control god. Playing a ranger is like we have small missles while other class also have, but they have atomic bombs which we dont have. There are classes out there can keep you guessing and kill you even you guessed 1 time wrong, while we have to play a long chess game and find out we only have Pawns.
Use signet of stone(with the trait makes it effect you) or protect me(or both) for panic bottom in WvW, they are very handy in zerg fights where you will never know what will happen to you next sec or against glass cannon thief and warrior on 1v1. I prefer 10 points in Toughness instead of Vitality, with 50% faster endurance regen and vigor on heal your kite ability will be much better.
And even though QZ on shortbow get nerfed to hell…it is still our only way to burst out damage…so use it…(on longbow rapid fire maybe?)
Well devs nerfed all our good damage attacks while dont give us any utility upgrade on other skills. So you could expect this coming.
Picking ranger is just like picking low tier characters in a fighting game, you can still win with it, but others can just picking top tier characters pay half the effort you paid to do the same thing you can do.
how dare you complain about ranger’s damage, ranger is not supposed to do any damage, damage done by ranger is the gift from the god’s mercy to this class; look at ranger weapons’ skill sets, none of them are about dealing damage, they are all about the love from the mother nature, you should use your attacks heal enemies show your care to them, lets just take off the weapons run into enemies and become a part of nature by lying on the ground like a real ranger.
increase the damage of #2 shot,fix #3 skill that it sometimes does not move me backwards,#4 is fine, make #5 skill arrow move faster, it flies in the air like forever.
From my understanding they are all long CD skills, you can always go in stealth and make them guess if you are running away or trying to stay aggressive, those skills provide 5-6 sec protection, if you dont over commit and used all your stuff on 1st few secs you are still in more positive situation than they do.
lol@ ranger is pve easy mode, every class is easy mode in common pve, when comes to instance ranger is the worst class, why? cuz even tanky pets dies so quickly in instance and pet is counted as a part of ranger formula, all you can do is bring out a range attack pet and hope it doesnt touch the edge of boss aoes when yourself busy dodging it.
for the part if we should reroll other classes for better PvP experience? Yes.
Why? Of course you can still win with ranger if you are skilled enough but you can win a lot more with other classes as the efforts you put in to be a good ranger.
Just like picking low tier toons in a fighting game, you can still beat players who are a lot worse than you, but you will never see a low tier character win a major tournament.
wow that internal cooldown thing is pure pathetic, no wonder I feel the spirit chance is actually lower than 20% or 35% with trait. so Anet basically encourage rangers to be selfish and go glass cannon build. I dont even want to mention the terrible terrible buff range…a player is 3 steps away from me and he cant get my buff…wth…I go with all spirit build yesterday and find they dies in common mob aoe like 3 sec even with 2x health trait…good job Anet. Well but at least since we cant do anyting else atm we can still running around with 3 toys following us lol.
Since ranger has so many tools a little nerf on shortbow is not enough for an OP class like ranger to be down into low tier classes, broken class is always broken, let me introduce a brand new future mainstream ranger build———Army Ranger!
With the following build you can create an army of 7(including yourself)running around in PVE sPVP WvW to provide insane buff to your group and intimidating your opponents by largely outnumber them and make them lose courage and hope.
Although I personally do not want to post this on the forum, cuz this will result in a huge nerf on spirits, pet and the elite kitty size so they wont scary the enemy to death. I still think it is the best choice to share this build with my fellow brother rangers at this time that a small group of us feel hopeless and want to change to other classes. This showing that ranger is a class with unlimited possibility.
Traits are 0/0/10/30/30 : ) enjoy the whole new world of ranger experience.
I already rerolled a thief and guardian before this patch coming cuz I see it was coming and some “pro” rangers will still say Ranger is good. the thing is that Ranger traits are terrible, due to most related stuff are not as useful as they should be like spirit and pet, other 2 classes I played when coming to traits are like omg so many good traits I can’t decide which one to choose, ranger traits are like omg finally a somewhat useful one.
Now its basically running 2 same match-ups every 2 weeks…its getting boring fighting same 3 or 4 servers again and again…at least with random match ups we fight different servers no matter we owning or getting owned…
wow…really…Only with QZ ranger has the same dps as other class do, dont even mention no one will touch signet spirits and pets(besides protect me) skills, and half of our trait is useless due to the related skills or targets are useless. And QZ is nowhere near to be an OP skill…
After enter the combat zone, go to the 1st green circle trigger it(mobs pop from ground), then ignore the mobs go directly to the 1st team, secure 1st team there, go to cave, ignore the green circle again, go to 2nd team, clean up all the mobs in the 2nd team area(not the whole cave just that small area), talk to the 2nd team leader, run directly(no need to wait for npc to follow, just go there) to the blocked exit clean the mobs there, it will do it.
I have npc down, myself downed twice cuz so many mobs after me, no problem.
Yeah, it was awesome. I was in the SBI group that holding position on the inner gate after HoD captured the keep, when we hold on long enough for the reinforcement came and thought we could get it back, another group came in and started chaos. The most exciting battle I had so far.
I feel WvW now is more about which server can outnumber other 2 servers than actually using strategy to win. so I ask is there a limit on max player number each server can put into a map, so one does not simply lose by outnumbered. like each server will have equal max player number on EB, but one will have lager max player number than other two on its home map, so actually make home map their “home-court”.
