Guild Wars 2

Dungeons are tug of war because we don’t have normal mode/hard mode like in GW1.

Normal mode – easy, low reward
Hard mode – tough as nails, good rewards.

That should please everyone outside of those who will complain HM is too hard but they still want the rewards…which I’m sure there will be many.

…or you could meet a few cool people and want to join their guild. Any PUG will be random, guild or not. While I agree that the chance of getting kicked at end may be higher with a guild, there’s also a nice chance that those people are coordinating via voice and will work together more.

There most certainly are some professions that are better than others! My guardian cannot possibly reach the damage potential of a warrior, just as other classes cannot match the tank potential of my guardian.

I did this as well. I recently finished map completion and then noticed there were about 10 or so puzzles I had missed in early areas I explored. 2 birds, 1 one stone.

Not sure about sweat shop, but it’s definitely the case for minimum wage in the US. $7 buys what…10g+?

I can se the headline now – “Unemployment rises as competition spikes when gamers take to the streets to farm that shiny legendary!”

Ironman – Finish all paths for a dungeon in one consecutive run (1 for each dungeon)

monkeydluffy.7896:

uhh Thats expected just like any game? Look at wow back in vanilla people had 1k gold that was like the richest people thought. Now people have to 500k gold to 1million. Its called growth of the game. You nerf COF people will just farm something else

Or they could, you know, make easy things like CoF unprofitable, while making something difficult profitable. Then bad players can farm and make some gold, and good players can play and make lots.

Easy, profitable farms are always bad for a game because they make everything else not worth doing.

monkeydluffy.7896:

No to revamp, this game is terrible when it comes to making money. You nerf the only way to make money? then were gonna be forced to farm something else so nerfing this wont do anything.

This is compltely false. It doesn’t matter how much money you have at all. What matters is how much money you have compared to other players.

Think back to August/September. Dusk and Dawn cost ~40-50g. Why? Because that’s how much money people had. There is a lot more gold in game now, but that doesn’t increase your purchasing power much. Easy gold trhough CoF grind why things are so expensive compared to what you would get through “normal” gameplay.

Things will never be perfect, but this dungeon is completely broken.

No.

Drastically increase the drop rate instead as you go to higher levels. Or make them a guaranteed drop at higher levels. Or add a new high level token similar to pristine relics that allows you to choose your weapon.

RNG is bad. Grinding easy things is bad. Doing 40+ fractals is not only difficult, but shows you’ve more than put in your time in the dungeon and shouldn’t be limited by those two factors.

/signed.

Only at ~350 myself, but this certainly seems more title-worth than most we already have, and there are no FotM titles currently. Side idea – add a title track similar to how PvP works based on your highest personal level in FotM. IE: new rank every time you hit 10, 20, 30, etc.

Both of these are likely better in the suggestions forum, though.

Renegade.6325:

Brave Sir Ryan.1240:

Best way to get molten lodestones? CoF p1. Buy extra on TP.
Best way to get charged lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get corrupted lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get crystal lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get glacial lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get destroyer lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get onyx lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get ecto? CoF p1, buy on TP. Or salvage.
Best way to get any armor stat? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get any weapon stat? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get commander for WvW? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get holiday weapons (that aren’t account bound to RNG)? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get mini pets? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get a precursor, or any other part of the legendary? CoF p1, buy on TP.

Ah yes, Skaalds will sing of your legendary CoF p1 grinding forever! I’m sure I missed plenty, but you get the point.

This is downright silly, and way overdue for a nerf. It’s a bad situation when 99% of your game comes down to “gee, I could be mindlessly farming this easy path and making 10-20x as much as I am right now!” And it shows – this dungeon is clearly run more than any other combined. I don’t have the exact numbers Robert has, but I can see what is on gw2lfg.

If you’re going to have something in the game that’s so much more profitable than everything else, at least make it difficult (like high level fractals). 4 War 100b + mes is a problem as well, but not as much of a problem as this path. As others have pointed out, it’s entirely possible to get somewhat close to the efficiency with any good group, and still make far, far more than you do anywhere else.

I’m not trying to be negative; I understand things take time. But this is ridiculous, and it is crazy ANet hasn’t at least Smiter’s Boon’d it until they could get an actual rework going. A great bit of damage has already been done as gold grind skewed the entire high-level economy…and that damage won’t ever really go away, just as we are still feeling the effect of the (no bans!) goldskull exploit.

Please fix before it gets even worse. Thanks for reading.

Dont you think there is a deeper problem? All those top tier rewards you have listed are available purely through money, and so people will inevitably crowd to the best gold per minute. Nerfing cof1 will shift players round, and wont solve any genuine issues.

I agree there is a deeper problem. GW2 needs more rewards that aren’t tied to money. Fractal weapons are a good start, other than the horrible RNG drop rate. Of course, that’s a debate, too, because now we’re talking about things being account-bound. That means you can’t make money with them, and thus FotM becomes unrewarding in that area.

However, this deeper problem is a seperate problem – reward structure.

CoF p1 is a money problem. There will ALWAYS be a “most efficient” thing, of course. But the main issues here are just how much better CoF is than anything else, along with the lack of difficulty. Having “most efficient” mean 10% more income is not the same thing as getting 500% as much, which is probably an understatement if comparing CoF p1 to high level fractals.

Rewards should be gated by difficulty, not grind, which is what ANet has always claimed to stand for.

Best way to get molten lodestones? CoF p1. Buy extra on TP.
Best way to get charged lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get corrupted lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get crystal lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get glacial lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get destroyer lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get onyx lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get ecto? CoF p1, buy on TP. Or salvage.
Best way to get any armor stat? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get any weapon stat? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get commander for WvW? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get holiday weapons (that aren’t account bound to RNG)? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get mini pets? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get a precursor, or any other part of the legendary? CoF p1, buy on TP.

Ah yes, Skaalds will sing of your legendary CoF p1 grinding forever! I’m sure I missed plenty, but you get the point.

This is downright silly, and way overdue for a nerf. It’s a bad situation when 99% of your game comes down to “gee, I could be mindlessly farming this easy path and making 10-20x as much as I am right now!” And it shows – this dungeon is clearly run more than any other combined. I don’t have the exact numbers Robert has, but I can see what is on gw2lfg.

If you’re going to have something in the game that’s so much more profitable than everything else, at least make it difficult (like high level fractals). 4 War 100b + mes is a problem as well, but not as much of a problem as this path. As others have pointed out, it’s entirely possible to get somewhat close to the efficiency with any good group, and still make far, far more than you do anywhere else.

I’m not trying to be negative; I understand things take time. But this is ridiculous, and it is crazy ANet hasn’t at least Smiter’s Boon’d it until they could get an actual rework going. A great bit of damage has already been done as gold grind skewed the entire high-level economy…and that damage won’t ever really go away, just as we are still feeling the effect of the (no bans!) goldskull exploit.

Please fix before it gets even worse. Thanks for reading.

Like any game requiring skill, there is a vast difference between good and bad players, or even PUGs and coordinated groups. There is also a vast difference in how hard players like their dungeons. Even good players like to roll something easy sometimes, or bad players looking to challenge themselves.

You can’t have 1 difficulty that suits and rewards everyone. This is why we need Hard Mode, like we had in GW1. Normal mode can be very easy, Hard mode very hard.

Best way to get molten lodestones? CoF p1. Buy extra on TP.
Best way to get charged lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get corrupted lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get crystal lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get glacial lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get destroyer lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get onyx lodestones? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get ecto? CoF p1, buy on TP. Or salvage.
Best way to get any armor stat? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get any weapon stat? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get commander for WvW? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get holiday weapons (that aren’t account bound to RNG)? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get mini pets? CoF p1, buy on TP.
Best way to get a precursor, or any other part of the legendary? CoF p1, buy on TP.

Ah yes, Skaalds will sing of your legendary CoF p1 grinding forever! I’m sure I missed plenty, but you get the point.

This is downright silly, and way overdue for a nerf. It’s a bad situation when 99% of your game comes down to “gee, I could be mindlessly farming this easy path and making 10-20x as much as I am right now!”

Please fix. If you’re going to have something in the game that’s so much more profitable than others, at least make it difficult (like high level fractals). 4 War + mes is a problem as well, but not as much of a problem as this path. As others have pointed out, it’s entirely possible to get somewhat close to the efficiency with any good group, and still make far, far more than you do anywhere else.

PS: personally against removing the boulder trap, it’s the only thing in the dungeon that requires any coordination. +1 to the idea of stopping the flaming boulders from going through port if possible.

+1. It’s been 30 minutes…so bumping again.

Well, there is some good evidence to a link with them in fractals. It’s in the mists where they retreated. That’s also where they learned to use agony, which is of course used by bosses there. I haven’t seen any…but they are the unseen ones.

I also don’t remember exactly what, but I seem to remember a link between an asura that had gone mad and possibly the raving asura in uncategorized and the mursaat.

So maybe!

Agreed completely. The way I see it you have two options:

• Perfectly balance every path in the game with every other dungeon. Not only is this impossible…it it bad because some nights you feel like CoF1, and some nights you feel like doing Arah 2 or 4.
• Take a few minutes and adjust some numbers.

I mean, really…it’s not that hard. I can’t believe the dungeon/rewards team hasn’t though of this, but I also can’t believe something so simple has not been implemented.

Please fix it already, so that people will be doing more than a few paths in the game.

Title is inaccurate; prices are exactly where they should be.

However, you should be making the argument that precursor acquisition is too rare. I’d suggest taking this to a different forum; market is working as it should.

Can’t post a pic now but the primeval was really awful. It seemed to me the intent was to take this GW1 armor and mimic the bad way GW1 dyed armor. I was trying to pair the helmet with T1 cultural shoulders (spikey), and simply couldn’t get a match.

For example, abyss is abyssmal. It comes out gray. A dark red comes out…sort of green. Anything medium or below on the horns came out looking like celestial. Yuck. Loved the armor skin, but the dye was bad.

It’s because your dynamic IP is changing. This is in place to prevent someone logging into your account from, say, China…which greatly increases security.

Seems odd that it’d be changing as much as you describe, though. Do you travel a lot?

Honestly, I’ve long suspected that gold sellers are using the TP to launder money. The TP fee isn’t that much. Not necessarily the case here, but it’s just fishy that there are real buy orders.

Which upcoming feature in the game would you prefer left out for this? Everything takes time. Also, priority how? The guesters are in because they were there first; would you just kick them out?

I understand it’s very annoying – not trying to seem contrary. Good news is that overflows will likely be better in a few days once the 1 chest per account thing kicks in.

Side note: did you know you can right click a party member and join them in the main server? This works most of the time except when it’s completely full, and will let you in long before the Travel box pops up.

OP:
If you’re on Win 7 Pro (and I’m assuming Win 8 ), you can do a 1-time setup to have a program run as an admin.

Basic gist is to create a shortcut, and have it target something like:
runas /user:username /savecred gw2.exe

This way you can run it once, have your parents type in the password, and never have the issue again. If you don’t have this option, though, probably out of luck.

edit: may have to put the gw2 path in there, been a while since I’ve messed with it and not at home.

Not sure what OP’s issue is. Guardian staff has the best auto-attack! If the server is crapping its pants such that people cannot get more skills off, then guardians become OP.

Reminder for next guild bounty: take a few seconds to check upcoming dragon timers. It happens, so does other guilds ninja’ing a kill. Overall I don’t see a great alternative.

I think you should reconsider what you are asking. Just take a look at how utterly worthless NPCs are in GW2 combat.

Might as well solo.

I agree with Olba’s impeccable logic. I mean, anyone who is very lucky or has 600g sitting around in the bank has to do NOTHING to get a precursor! Clearly, these are precursors for ants, and should require 3x as much cash!!!

To OP: great idea. Current implementation is absolutely terrible, and it’s crazy that ANet has not implemented some simple alternatives such as this. No plan will be perfect, but this one is easy to implement and hard to earn. Nix the skill points, though, and personally I’d make it 500 tokens. Just combine current items that cost 500 dungeon tokens and go.

Sebrent.3625:

Oh rly?!
I had read several places about people using Black and White Ravens so they could F2, swap, F2 for quick burst.

If this is really the case, then no problems. Anyone with the HoM pets care to make a quick video? the free 30 sec fraps let’s you do should be more than sufficient.

To be fair…even if you could use both, it was nowhere near the mountain it was being made into.

If such a minor difference is an issue, I’d suggest getting rid of different classes and equipment levels altogether.

Thanks for the replies all, glad I’m not the only one who misses this. Almost put this puppy in the bank for a Volcanus, but I think I’ll hold out.

Currently can’t hear over a waypoint, even.

If it helps in the troubleshooting or even matters – my GS was transmuted onto a skybringer.

In the abstract, any discount on buying gems with gold will encourage more people to buy gems with gold. Result? Price of gems is pushed up, taking away any discount the next guy or gal would have received.

The gold -> gem rate before and after the bag/bank slot sale is a perfect example of why this can’t be done, no matter how fancy the formula or idea behind it. I think that’s what John was getting at.

The only other idea would be to reduce taxes. I think most here know why that’s a bad idea.

One thing for people to note: clearly this will be something that works like other guild items, such as banquet/banner/etc.

That means you will be limited by the time and influence it takes to research. It also means that people who are balking at AoW 5 will likely be in for a bad surprise when they see how much each mission costs to research.

I’m personally in the “it’s hilarious watching someone’s name go flying by” camp. Yes, it can be tedious, but doing better means a faster clear, so that’s the reward for a well-coordinated team.

Cody Crichton.7516:

There have been concerns in this thread that the sounds are gone in their entirety, but internal testing has shown that this is not the case. While they are quieter now, they are audible at default volume levels except during intense combat, and the impact sounds for the weapon are also intact. That said, if you know of a way that the sounds for this weapon can be reliably and consistently shown to not cue, we are interested in that—please let us know with a detailed reply in this thread!

Cody, thank you very much for the response. To be honest, neither I nor my guildmates can hear the saw at all now. I can swing it around in LA or some other area, and we hear nothing. We’ve verified our sounds are up/etc.

Is this intended? Am I testing this incorrectly? I can try recording a video or something, but any feedback would be most appreciated! Thanks again.

Any chance we could get a response from ANet on whether this was intentional? Prior to the Nov 19 patch, the hum was okay…thereafter it was fantastic! That seemed to be a very deliberate move; now it disappears again with no patch notes. I’m very sad, as are my friends who crack up every time they hear it.

Thanks!

I’m not 100% sure what you’re looking to do, but I prefer scepter/shield in PvE. Comparable damage with the ability to range and immobilize.

I also feel scepter adds a lot of support by my being back where I can actually hit people with the shield’s prot cone, and see other players go down.

There is an easy way to address both the MF and the variance. Simply add an intermediary item.

Let’s say ANet wants it to take an average of 500 weapons to get a precursor. As it stands now, someone who is very unlucky could easily put in 2,000 weapons and not get one. In fact, on average, this would happen to 1.8% of players! Others could get it on the first try. That much luck is not a good game mechanic, and very much not fair to people who are simply unlucky; the cost is enormous.

I also understand the MF is important.

To contrast that scenario, imagine every 20 weapons, on average, gave you an item that you could use to reliably craft dusk, dawn, lover, whatever. It takes 25 of those items to craft your desired precursor.

Now you get a much nicer statistical distribution while still fulfilling the task of having players dump tons of weapons into the forge, and even require the same average amount of items, leaving the total MF usage by players to be identical. I’d even suggest that you would get MORE people using the forge, because many do not like the miniscule chance of success. However, it becomes statistically impossible for somebody to get it on 1 or 2,000 forges.

This is all ANet needs to do: simply add an intermediary item. Adds fairness, doesn’t hurt MF.

Edit to add: not going for precuror? Great, sell it on TP. Want to buy and don’t like gambling? Fine, buy intermediary item on TP; it came from mystic forging.

Other topic is not letting me reply; then saying locked? Is that a forum bug or has it been locked?

Same boat as others; reserved name on an alt account. Over a month later and lots of time wasted on my ticket, still no answer. Please advise.