Guild Wars 2

lol yeah it was a pretty epic comeback for IoJ

Pretty sure we only lost once to IoJ by 2k points, but ya We’ve been blue since i can even remember opening my eyes lol :P

I’m not so sure, I’ve heard plenty of people randomly banned for something they didn’t do then ANet sending an apology PM or email or whatever about the situation and lifting it asap.

Do you fail to understand or comprehend a simply concept i just told you? I never said the tier is about sor, i stated sor is its own relationship just as your server is yours.

do you try to dictate and tell your friends who to marry or how to run their relationship because you dont like who they are with or what they do? For that matter do you even do tthat with strangers? If you do thats pretty weird and messed up, if u dont then u already understand what ive been stating.

dirtyoldgoat.5496:

Cat Amiss.9463:

It’s like i explained to a guildie of mine. You build your server like you build a marriage. You start from the ground up…if you rush into things too soon its bound to fail

The divorce rate in america is so high because people rush into it too fast, face hard times, and eventually grow apart.

the same thing goes for wvw, if you rush into a major challenge too fast and possibly face hard times it could very well hurt the community. You treat it with respect, care, love, perserverance, trust, and friendship like anybody whos happily married knows. You build it from the ground up, make the foundation strong and it will last forever. That is what we are doing.

Which community? SOR or the Tier 2 server wide community?

Just so we are sure who and what we are talking about.

(and i cant QUIT YOU!!! …but would love for you to move on to “greener pastures”)

I said server, so i was refering to sor, a server is a relationship, 1 massive , and the better and healthier it is, the longer itll last if not forever.

It’s like i explained to a guildie of mine. You build your server like you build a marriage. You start from the ground up…if you rush into things too soon its bound to fail

The divorce rate in america is so high because people rush into it too fast, face hard times, and eventually grow apart.

the same thing goes for wvw, if you rush into a major challenge too fast and possibly face hard times it could very well hurt the community. You treat it with respect, care, love, perserverance, trust, and friendship like anybody whos happily married knows. You build it from the ground up, make the foundation strong and it will last forever. That is what we are doing.

@ Cover Girl, I wanted to say also, nicely put and very true. All of SBI guilds personally have my respect as i know all of FEARs respect too and are more than happy to have you all here as part of our community. We all can empathize with you how hard of a decision it must have been for all of you.

As for the rest of SoR I know they all are more than happy to have you all too. So anyways, in a nutshell…thank you for joining our amazing community and we look forward to standing side by side, sharing blood, and killing our enemys for a long future ahead with you all!

EDIT: site URL has been updated

This guy is clearly hard headed and doesn’t understand anyone’s points…just leave him be in his corner.

As for the new guilds to SoR…I haven’t had a personal chance of meeting you all but I have heard great things about all of you and look forward to working with you all…

You may have played with some of our members but if you haven’t FEAR is very happy to have you and looks forward to working, coordinating with, and overall having a fun time with you guys on SoR for a long time

If you need anything feel free to ask any of our officers/leaders in FEAR!

Still actively recruiting.

Like i said before though, we have literally been in 5th place for atleast 4months straight if not more, i dont even remember the last time we took 1st place in t2…it’s about time we get some extra coverage especially considering just how long we HAVE been recruiting…

It’s not even bandwagoners, more so getting guilds that are dedicated and want to stick with us for a long time. Life can be a dissapointment at times, but there’s no need to sarcastically flame others for choosing to join us after so long of us trying to recruit.

what Silv said^ :P

Naznin.2584:

Cat Amiss.9463:

yay for people hating on a server finally getting some recruitment after being in 5th place for…3-4months straight now? gg guys

Weve been trying to get a strong community and more strong guilds to be a part of the community and actually stay with us forever…it’s finally paying off…just because you haven’t gotten that doesn’t mean you need to hate.

Nobody from TC is hating on SoR for getting transfers, please read posts again. That’s just not our style. Some of us are bemused, however. SBI has been downright classy about this, in my opinion. They haven’t shown their aggravation much, if at all.

I suggest expanding your sentiment detector beyond just love or hate. Neither SBI nor TC have flamed SoR for this. If you think we’re ‘hating’, I have to wonder what you would call a server in T1 DDOSing another server’s voice comm server or sending their commanders/leaders hate messages and boasting about it.

there’s two posts above mine basically sarcastically making fun of SoR for getting more guilds, its implied not said directly straight up.

yay for people hating on a server finally getting some recruitment after being in 5th place for…3-4months straight now? gg guys

Weve been trying to get a strong community and more strong guilds to be a part of the community and actually stay with us forever…it’s finally paying off…just because you haven’t gotten that doesn’t mean you need to hate.

Recruiting hard, come kill with us

We are a recently formed guild merged from two very skilled guilds who all came originally from one place. We joined together to make a WvW/SPvP focused guild that people would rapidly know and make a major impact in Sanctum of Rall WvW. We are [FEAR] Feelings Aren’t Required. We’ve only been formed a little over 2 weeks now and have already become very well recognized as an extremely well organized guild who needs to be looked out for. Our tactics are hard trained and our members work harmoniously together.

A few quotes already made about us:

"" From my own observation, the guilds to look for are FEAR and CDS. FEAR will run around as a 30-ish mob and they will bring catapults to bear on the northern reaches of just about everything. And it will be superior 95% of the time. Trebuchet, ballista, catapult, you name it, they got it in superior form."

“Guilds to look out for: FEAR is one i see a lot. They are pretty well organized.”

“[Fear] was the major SoR guild on the map and they ran a very tight zerg…..they were also one of the better guilds at open-field combat”

“As mentioned Fear is a guild to look out for. Great defenders. Forty of them will wait inside their broken walled keep with ballista and wipe you when you come in.”

Our site is www.feargw2.com. We are looking to expand on our Oceanic/SEA//NA/EU presence, we currently have many members from all over the world with our biggest being NA. you will always find plenty of members on in WvW and even some PvE Dungeons during the day if you need gold/drops. We also have a TS3 that we use and a vent if needed.

We are looking for Hardcore WvWers for the guild to make an even stronger presence than we already have.

FEAR will be around for a long time and wants to keep helping lead Sanctum of Rall to the top and with YOUR help we can! Join now before transfers become paid for and help join the tight nit community on both Sanctum of Rall and FEAR and find your true home

FEAR hopes to see you all on the battlefield and hopefully some of you with us!

Speaking as a SoR member…get off other peoples recruitment threads, you don’t dictate other peoples lives, you aren’t god and can tell them what to do, all you are doing is making you’re own server look even worse and stopping people from coming there to help you.

I like the SoS people and what they have done to bring that server to the top is amazing. Stop trolling them. Like someone earlier said, no winning team in the world just wins and never recruits, I have never seen the Yankees or Patriots win and never once trade players around, have you? thats how life works.

Leave it be, let them recruit, and recruit for yourselves if you have such an issue with it instead of trolling a great thread made by them.

bump, very tight nit community, great organization, coordination, and communication between all guilds

even the casual guilds or militia know what to do and a great job of it

Doing well now and can always use more, we are very friendly and hope to get more oceanic/sea/eu players and even NA if you want

FEAR welcomes all!

I also wanted to state since i missed it on the last post saying thank you to CDS and TW

Thank you for the help a lot of the times FEAR is on a map LUN, it is always fun working with you guys and is nice to see you back in force again we may have not played at the same times as you for awhile or something but we missed seeing you all over like awhile back.

Anyways much respect to all SoR guilds so far and again FEAR welcomes all the new ones with open arms.

Thanks all
-FEAR

FEAR just wants to say thank you for the fun Siege on SBI garrison, SBI you guys put up a great fight and made us truly work hard for it, it was a great defense even if you guys may have been outnumbered (no idea because the culling was so bad lol) But thank you for the fight

FEAR also wants to say ty to TW for the amazing coordination between our 2 guilds for that major push and how well it paid off along with CDS for doing a great job holding our back lines of the map while we pushed…this is why we love SoR and will always be SoR it’s a great server with amazing guild coordination between everyone

Anyways, thank you again all for the great fight

Binary Rain.4869:

tkalamba.2541:

style.6173:

oltouch.2913:

ughh, so Sor just got a guild in it with 9 commanders. Why dont you guys transfer over to 2nd or 3rd place servers -_-

Wait, there are guilds in SoR besides Choo? jk. I do give Choo props for having the best guild name I’ve seen.

We take alot of pride in it. We even /shout Choo Choo! when charging into battle

I have seen you guys around a lot, and you are fun to fight. Who I see the most, though, is [Fear]. I don’t mind tearing them apart…but when they are everywhere it gets kind of annoying. Also sick of them only doing the portal bombing tactic…..(so many culling issues already…..)

We use a ton more tactics than that and are all very skilled individuals creating a very harmonious guild through well executed tactics…but appreciate hearing we are doing our job

FEAR wants to send a special thank you to the couple guilds who have came here to help during our overnight…we welcome you with open arms and can’t wait to have you by our sides helping SoR…thank you all

Indo.8629:

rchu.8945:

CHIPS.6018:

Well fought SoR. You guys are clearly better than JQ. It is ashame that JQ is teaming up with SoS to stay in tier 1. Else JQ would be knocked off T1 very quickly.

If you SoR guys eventually make it up to T1 (which I am confident you will), don’t get discouraged if you loss. SoS and JQ will always work together, with some in between fighting here and there to pretend they aren’t. They are in the same TS server most of the time.

It is still too early to crown SoR anything yet. Saying SoR is better than JQ is not fair to both servers. We still need to recruit more guilds willing to transfer over to help with our oceanic/asia coverage. The fact that BG went up and get beaten with their current coverage and population is already a good indication how tough tier 1 really is.

Yeah, SoR is a fantastic server with an AMAZING community and a very talented player base. We aren’t T1 tested though, we have nowhere close to the coverage we need for T1. We aren’t looking to be in T1 tomorrow, we want to do it slow and steady with the right people and the right guilds.

Coverage will come with time, we just gotta keep at it as a server.

What Indo says…it takes time to build an Empire…You want the right people so they work well and in harmony with everyone, not just a fast shoot up to t1 only to drop out of it soon later

Love how we have been doing that and not only hardening our skills as a playerbase due to lack of coverage in most other time zones normally other than NA but also want to make sure we get loyal coverage across the board…

Also a huge shout out from FEAR to all our night coverage lately…you all are truly doing an amazing job along with our amazing NA, FEAR loves you all and is happy to be a part of this server and will always hold strong with it…good work all

Jedbacca.6297:

Anyway, in lighter news I got to play against my old servermates CDS and against two guilds I can recognize as some pretty solid teams, that being Choo and Fear. From the reports of what I heard about you guys I made sure we brought more of our A game this evening. You all bring a hell of a fight to the table.

Like Bav said, good fights it was very fun we all enjoyed it and look forward to seeing you guys on the battlefield again!

Their Feelings Aren’t Required…

We should just make it an fps game :P

Please people cry more about a downed skill…1 ele changes the entire course of battle obviously.

I’ve never seen more crying about a stupid skill than this 1…it’s really pathetic…learn to counter it like someone who pvps regularly…it’s the simplest easiest thing to stop a ele from getting back in after it but apparently nobody understands how.

MrSilver.5269:

To the Sylvari SOR p/d thief from [FEAR]: Good fight. Must have lasted 10 minutes going back and forth with neither of us able to take the other down. Fun fight.

Thanks.

FEAR appreciates the nice comments towards us so far

Vodka.3958:

Proumbro.1376:

covenn.7165:

GekoHayate.2451:

Ahh I think I see! looks at the nearest quaggan menacingly

Yes…. I see

Quaggan’s are the debil.

Foooo, Quaggans no like you either!

Nakoor.1980:

Vodka.3958:

I can’t wait to see covenns excuses when he loses to SBI next week. I’ve never seen so much flame in here before by 1 person… Sit down bro, take a breather, relax. Bare with us for only 4 more days the Blackgate steam-roll is almost finished :P

We all know “beastgate” likes to say they steam-roll people, but its funny hearing Icoa talk about rolling anyone.

To their credit, they are getting better. They recently started exploring new strategies that they found on our website that their collective genius has spawned. Can’t wait to see what they’ll be like when they perfect them

Btw props to that TSL guild from TC that was trying to ninja bay in BG BL last night. We all got there and were like, “how the heck did this TC get in here, HAX (not really), KILL THEM ALL”. You almost got away with it too

Of course, because Choo created stacking right? :P It’s an old tactic… We’re just better at it

That’s why the stackings been working so well on SoR BL tonight right?

Kujo.3678:

So we, at BG, had the best moment ever (in terms of laughter) in SoR BL. Garrison trebs our NE wall of bay down 30mins-1hour before. We stall them at garrison for 1 hour hence making SoR unable to attack bay. We get pushed out of garrison and SoR attacks bay. Do they rush through the broken wall? No. They use 2 golems and their entire zerg of roughly 30 people (This is during late oceanic prime time btw, so don’t u SoR dare say anything about having no forces during this hour since you managed to push us out of garrison) to attack NW gate.

tldr? SoR attacks NW AB gate with 2 golems while NE outer wall is down

Pretty pointless post except to simply troll a thread considering I have seen every server we’ve played against do countless stupid things against us…maybe they wanted a second breach to make it even more difficult to hold the place since they had things left over? You have no idea what the tactics were, so there’s no reason to come on the forums and call a server “dumb” in so many words…

For the talk about SoR saying bad things on forums it is pretty hypocritical to say when i see equally as many BG talking smack like the above post

Lol love the video, that’s awesome

Christos de Soufre.3802:

Yay, we took SM!

havn’t you guys had SM the whole time or did we take it overnight? Might’ve been sleeping when we did haha

rofl @ these posts…too funny

Yeah same as things like Mist Form for eles

BG still has a ton of presence during our NA strong time though, it’s not like we are daycapping or anything by any means

Was funny seeing a thief earlier today that i guess hadn’t read the patch notes trying to stealth hold a camp, was lol time at them :P

We were at +420 for a little at 1 point, our NA presence is crazy kitten

lol yeah, too funny with the thief 1

What server are you on? EPIC on Sanctum of Rall have amazing defensive abilities, we are equally as good at offense too but will defend anything with our strongest will

Great guild, great players, have lots of fun but also get things done and keep what we have.

dank.3680:

Eyelusion.8205:

A couple thoughts:

1. This thread should be moved to the elementalist forum. It’s not a thread much about the entry of elementalists thru the tower door but rather a thread about the downed state of elemenentalists being overpowered or not.

2. I completely disagree with the OP. The OP brings this up stating he/she is overpowered when using it, but then seems to go on a mission to call it overpowered and get it changed. This isn’t even the first thread the OP created on this subject. This is more of a thread created by someone who got frustrated trying to kill an elementalist that kept going into the tower room after being downed? A couple thoughts on that:

A.) An elementalist can not just do this over and over and over as the health bar gets lowered dramatically after each use. Therefore, after doing this three or four times, the elementalist will kill itself. This argument is like having an argument over the overpowered portal if placing a few of those over time would kill the mesmer. I wish!

B.) Seriously, OP? You have a problem with the elementalist being overpowered? Trouble killing elementalists next to a tower? Elementalists are so overpowered by the downed state that you have taken this on as a mission to fix as you watch elementalists ruin WvWvW as we know it because this makes them too elite and the new flavor of the month for builds? NO? I didn’t think so. Get over it.

I know for a fact he mains a d/d Ele, and is very good at it.

I main a d/d Ele as well, and yes I can do this over and over more then 4 times. I just wait a bit when I get the red downed state icon till it goes back yellow. I live long enough ducking in and out of the tower and using all my utilities that this is never a problem.

The previous thread got closed because of inflammatory tones by other posters. A lot of people are overreacting just because they think the word nerf. He is not asking for a nerf, he’s asking to fix an obviously broken mechanic.

Some claim that this can’t be effective enough to matter, as someone who does this on a regular basis I disagree. I’ve stalled huge zergs by myself doing it tons of time. I get them to pull back away from their rams trying to draw me out further. I get lots of them downed and several defeated every time I do it..

People assume that it would only be used to go out and be suicidal until downed. Well that would indeed not be very effective. But when you play to the full potential and keep ducking in and out of the tower when needed and use all of your utilities to survive combined with being skilled and having a solid build, you will survive a long time and do tons of damage.

The fact that once they finally do lock me down and defeat me, that I can just kitten my way back into the tower and rez up only to start the process over again fresh, is in my opinion OP and broken.

Some pretty mindless zergs you’ve been attacking then.

Surbrus.6942:

Defending against discussion of a Elementalist Downed skill, justifying it by saying that the rest of the class is under powered (not commenting on this), is like saying that the resent Mesmer illusion summoning bugs implemented is fine because Portal is such a good skill.

Besides, if you really think the downed state abilities need to be better to compensate for other abilities… then you’re just crazy. Personally I would prefer abilities that would prevent me from going down, not making my Downed state powerful.

As for those saying that you can’t do hit and runs and just vapor form through the door due to the downed penalty prevents you from doing this constantly, that is a strawman and you know it.

And as for saying that anyone with half a brain knows how to deal with Vapor form, what a big ego you have. Mist Form makes the user invulnerable, therefore most non-Elementalist players would assume that Vapor Form also makes the user invulnerable (therefore not a valid target for CC).

The Elementalist downed2 is obviously one of the most powerful downed abilities in the game. No one else can use a downed skill to go through doors, or jump into the Drowning state (where they can then swim away). Personally I wouldn’t care if my class had the worst downed state, because once your downed you are supposed to be basically dead most of the time (I main a Mesmer, so yeah that probably is the worst Downed state right there). If they nerfed or buffed the Mesmer Downed state I wouldn’t really care, because I don’t intend to spend much time in that state anyways, and neither should you.

just lol.

Everyone get over it, every single patch there’s more idiotic nerfs to Eles

If you are going to QQ about something then dont pick a downed state ability, especially 1 as stupid as this. Maybe we should nerf the lightning ability while downed because it inflicts vulernability too on instant cast? OMG SO OP

You vapor form too many times in a set amount of time the ele instantly kills itself (an if you wait for the debuff to go away 9/10 if it’s a good zerg your gate or wall is gone anyways), simple as that…there’s only so many suicide runs you can do, not to mention theres a massive amount of places too far away from the tower that if the ele tried to suicide run on it’s own it would never make it back. Just because you can’t figure out how to keep them out of the tower/keep doesn’t means it’s an UBER OP skill. It just means you need to figure out something else than just face smashing buttons.

It’s really pathetic to see people complaining about the worst downed state class in the game, along with the squishiest class (now that we don’t even have bunker ele anymore)

Along with suicide running even as a D/D ele can barely do anything to siege before a zerg kills them, and trying to cast meteor shower half the time when they see you coming (if it’s an actual organized zerg) doesn’t work at all…stop crying about silly things and learn to counterattack something as dumb as this skill.

I still enjoy me ele even after every single nerf we keep getting for whatever reason they give it to us. But to cry about our downed state which kills us indefinitely after a few tries of it? just wow.

stupid is as stupid does :P

Esoteric.5490:

Cat Amiss.9463:

He was inside of the redbriar spot attacking the trebs above, thats once we killed him, i couldnt get a guild tag shot till he was dead, he didn’t own the tower, and was a thief

and calm down raven i was asking ICoa to look into it, since i have no idea who the player is, was simply stating its stupid to see it again after all last week

I’m not Raven, although he is in my guild. A lot of people confuse us. Honestly, I’m not overreacting; you could always send a PM to Hollywood Fiend from ICoa and he could look into it for you. If he was down where you saw him, he could have easily hid there when you flipped the tower. I’m just tired of the conclusion immediately being that someone hacked when you didn’t actually see it. Speculation should be dealt with in PMs, not posted on public boards. It just perpetuates generalizations especially when you are “warning” a guild for the supposed actions of one player.

My bad then thought i read Raven lol

Was only pointing out he was glitched INSIDE the building, he wasn’t on the outside attacking anything, was glitched into the inside of it like being underground

He was inside of the redbriar spot attacking the trebs above, thats once we killed him, i couldnt get a guild tag shot till he was dead, he didn’t own the tower, and was a thief

and calm down raven i was asking ICoa to look into it, since i have no idea who the player is, was simply stating its stupid to see it again after all last week

So this is ICoa being warned for the last week

…just get this under control, not talking crap but its kinda stupid seeing this still

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/gw016ib.jpg/

yes because we are so OP in downed state we could kill you once we do that :P

you also missed my point, Eles can’t go from 10% to 50% from vapor form, either you don’t read the health bar right or the forces of god are in play

When we use vapor form our TOTAL health pool is lowered by a certain amount, that 10% would raise to 20% maybe, but your killed twice as fast then because there is less hp in that 20% because it is the same as the 10% previously

Learn how eles work 1st then complain

Along with, anyone complaining about this clearly has no idea how to stop it from even happening…it doesn’t take a genius to realize you can immobilize them as they go down, during while they r downed, and when they are in vapor form…not very difficult – don’t mindlessly zerg a place and learn how to keep people out of towers/keeps that are not only a downed ele but also people running in.

No it doesn’t it takes ur total life and brings it down hence why the health bar moves up

It’s so easy to stop an ele in vapor form from going through, any person with half a brain knows that

Vapor Form rarely ever does anything aside from stop a person from killing you for a few secs considering how fast it ends – unless you are near a tower/keep

All this is asking is for all 3 ele skills to be useless…pointless thread

yes because our other 2 downed skills are so great we should totally screw that 1 lol, there’s like literally no other point to vapor form otherwise

That’s got to suck to see all your golems go down so fast like that lol, was epic attempt though

that’s the problem though with walking them that far without any portals or destroying siege 1st

pretty funny though :P

It is a different RUN

Awesome job so far SoR, nice to see wish i couldve been there to help, can’t wait to jump in the action tomorrow! keep it up guys you all are awesome…and looks like been overall great fights from everyone