Guild Wars 2

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

Falcon.8713:

oZii.2864:

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

Ugh, guard and ele can apply burning by just autoattack.. and necro have to spent 30 points

I don’t know alot about guards but I think they get 1 sec base duration on most of their burns.

Ele’s have a trait to proc a 1 sec burn on crit (30%) no matter the attunement and nobody takes it. Eles have great access to burning true but they don’t have enough cover conditions with good base durations for the long burns to even run their course. Also no S/D ele auto attacks in fire unless they messed up somewhere thats the only auto attack that burns(2 sec base).

It’s like fighting a Dagger/Dagger condi thief that just death blossoms sure he can put 25 stacks of bleeds with 16 duration but you won’t kill someone with just bleeds if they have a clue on how to play.

A Necro for example, can put this 25 stacks of bleed back to the owner with a couple of skills.. Bye bye thief !

if you didn’t miss it

If my first attack (deadly swarm) misses I still got my putrid mark, if that misses to, I still have a small chance my sigil of generosity will activate , if this would still fail, I can eat all conditions with CC or remove them by going in DS, Necro got a genius way to control conditions and/or stacking them with huge amounts with lots of cover conditions !

Bhawb.7408:

Falcon.8713:

20/0/20/0/30 MM build is offensive right ? Can you explain me why the 30 into Soul Reaping ?

Deathly Perception. You get the two life blast traits, plus that, your minions face tank mobs for you, you jump into DS and sit there pressing 1 for pretty high damage that pierces, stacks vuln, and stacks might on you.

Sounds great ! Still Soldier armor ?

Bhawb.7408:

Falcon.8713:

Second I want to hear your opinions about if you prefer Condition Damage or Power MM builds and why ?
• Fetid Consumption good or not ?
• Necrotic Corruption does it have a reliable source of boom removal ?
• What sigils you use ?
• What weapons you use ?
• what do you think that needs to be changed at minions / any additions ?

Feel free to answer any questions / give advice or give opinion about builds

Power MMs are generally the best for “on their own” fighting. It gives you the most versatility, and the power weapons synergize the best with MM builds on their own. Also, power is just flat better in PvE, which is why I use the 20/0/20/0/30 MM build for PvE. Gives great DPS, and a good amount of team support.

That said, teamfighting MMs that are going to rely on team-buffing generally do better as condi, because most of the buffs the minions are going to be getting are either not affected by your stats, or are condi based (spirits, venoms, combo fields, all have condi-procs). Also, condition weapons are generally better for the team-fighting.

Fetid Consumption is amazing. With a full minion bar, its 6 conditions pulled every 10 seconds, that’s half a wipe every 10 seconds. After you kill something, you have 7 minions. Lich Runes proc? 8 minions. Its an insane amount of condition removal.

Necromatic Corruption isn’t good enough. It would synergize really well with the A/F set (with 2 boon strips) but it only has use in one specific build (anti-tank berzerker MMs that just rush down bunkers), and frankly Death Nova is arguably better still because of the poison/weakness.

Sigils I swap. Mostly 2x Leeching one on every off-hand, and staff, axe always has hobbling, dagger always has bloodlust. However, sometimes I swap out for Hydromancy, because it gives myself and my minions a lot of anti-kiting abilities.

Runes are either 4x Vamp 2x Melandru, 6x Lyssa, or 6x Melandru. In PvE its 6x Divinity.

Weapons were kind of covered above, but usually A/F, D/WH. In PvE its D/F staff, WvW I carry all weapons and switch as needed.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Sikari-s-MM-Duscussion-Suggestions-II/

For changes. Only thing I’d add to that is a party UI so I can see minion HP bars.

20/0/20/0/30 MM build is offensive right ? Can you explain me why the 30 into Soul Reaping ?

oZii.2864:

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

Ugh, guard and ele can apply burning by just autoattack.. and necro have to spent 30 points

I don’t know alot about guards but I think they get 1 sec base duration on most of their burns.

Ele’s have a trait to proc a 1 sec burn on crit (30%) no matter the attunement and nobody takes it. Eles have great access to burning true but they don’t have enough cover conditions with good base durations for the long burns to even run their course. Also no S/D ele auto attacks in fire unless they messed up somewhere thats the only auto attack that burns(2 sec base).

It’s like fighting a Dagger/Dagger condi thief that just death blossoms sure he can put 25 stacks of bleeds with 16 duration but you won’t kill someone with just bleeds if they have a clue on how to play.

A Necro for example, can put this 25 stacks of bleed back to the owner with a couple of skills.. Bye bye thief !

Minions are very viable, in Pve they tank all and give massive poison+weakness fields on mobs, Pvp best point defenders imo , WvW running with the zerg and CHARGE !

Don’t listen to people saying that you have to reroll and kitten , because necro has lack of .. Bla bla bla.. Offensive Profession, offensive conditions , a good start for a necromancer is running around with signet of te locust and spectral wall , you can help your zerg in WvW a lot, a staff will do for an easy beginning phase , you can always try out other things, but staff was my starter weapon and I liked it a lot (still do)

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

Ugh, guard and ele can apply burning by just autoattack.. and necro have to spent 30 points

True that, but in my conditio build I run 30 into spite for some nice traits and +30% condition duration anyway :o

First people are arguing that we are underpowered, now we get a better conditon and still not good ?

Dhuumfire
•Grandmaster trait
•100% chance to apply 4sec of burning on critical hit (10sec CD)

I’ve read that many people say it’s ‘broken’ – ‘outbalanced’ – …
What’s the reason behind this ? In my eyes I see: Another condition, medium damage on condition damage build increase, what did I miss ?

There are a lot of MM builds I have heard of, so I have been thinking about some my self, I prefer to ‘create’ builds myself and test them out, I dislike the copy pasting some guys do.. So I have been thinking about a couple of things:

Casual set-up:
20-0-30-20-0
DIRE or SOLDIER ?
Superior runes of the TRAVELER or SPEED ?
I prefer +25% movement speed so I’m not a slow slacker in my party, any other ideas for a good runeset (NON-PVP) ?

Ultimate tank
Either: 10-0-30-30-0 or 0-10-30-30-0
First setup for Soldier , second for DIRE
• Minions draw condition each 10 seconds (Fetid Consumption)
• Death Nova (Boom Boom Poison Field) or Necrotic Corruption (Minions got 10% chance to remove a boon from enemy)
• I prefer to have all minions up (no signet of locust) -> Sup Runes of Speed because of the vitality

Second I want to hear your opinions about if you prefer Condition Damage or Power MM builds and why ?
• Fetid Consumption good or not ?
• Necrotic Corruption does it have a reliable source of boom removal ?
• What sigils you use ?
• What weapons you use ?
• what do you think that needs to be changed at minions / any additions ?

Feel free to answer any questions / give advice or give opinion about builds

If you mean like mesmer blink, then yes, at some points those ‘teleports’ can be uses to get to higher ground, most of the time this is a bug and Anet will fix it when they find out (ex. The harpy fractal blink after old tom so you can skip a jump phase directly to endboss)

You actually can see the diffrence between human and sylvari with arah armor, go check it out yourself

cuz I like necromancers.. (Full arah is kinda ugly on sylvari)
main is power build and other one is to try out new builds and stuf

Sylvari Necromancer – (80)
Soon: Human Necromancer (Leveling)

Agreed. Or a brand new one, Scythe for close combat Melee but more then 1 target but cleave for dagger is good to

Wow kicked from a dung for being a necro.. I do arah daily with necro, just show them you can handle it..

You’ve all read about the big updates, that will still happen in 2013, one of those updates: new traits and skills for all profession, any ideas for my precious necro ? ;$
I want : new minion

As a casual necro I really likethe class more then any other, I also have a mesmer I love but the necro stole my heart, I don’t think we’re weak against any class except if we run a minion build, that part of the necromancer still needs an update, but all the rest is very very good imo