Guild Wars 2

CHIPS.6018:

Neither this match or rating will mean anything come next week. The only thing left is to hand Maguuma their first lost in weeks. I purposed a truce between Kaineng and Yak this week, and team up to take everything that Mag have. What say you? If you agree, I will let everyone know and we will start this truce on Sunday or earlier.

Here is how it works:
-EB: Attack your side of Maguuma’s towers constantly. Leave Kaineng alone. Kaineng will only attack SMC if it is in Maguuma’s hands. Vice Versa.
-Maguuma BL: Attack your side of Maguuma’s towers constantly. Leave Kaineng alone. Vice Versa.
-Yak’s BL: Defend your towers against Maguuma. Kaineng will only attack those southern towers if they are already in Maguuma’s hands. If a Yak’s zerg comes to take that tower, Kaineng will waypoint out and let Yak take it. If a Maguuma zerg comes, Kaineng will defend.
-Kaineng BL: Similar to Yak’s BL.

We are open to any additional tactical requests that you see fit. If Yak’s wishes, we can even use the same Teamspeak to coordinate better.

Maguuma, get ready for a 4 fronted war. ^^

If it’s red it’s dead…

saiyr.3071:

Runehand.9368:

How does Maguuma have so many people?

Felt like you guys had a lot too. Well, definitely felt like you queued our BL.

We had a pretty good turnout on your BL. There honestly wasn’t a queue, at least after the first hour or so. It was a lot of fun though. We had some pretty good fights at Hills. You guys deserved to hold it after the resistance you put up. My question is where was Kain? Assaults on a servers home borderland work much better when both the opposing servers show up.

John Widdin.9618:

What a wonderful night. Around 500 kills to my tally.

Thank you for actually fighting.

You’re welcome it was a good fight and a lot of fun!

GuardianOMS.8067:

Yak’s Bend, the answer to all your problems is to build more siege, please do this much more often, as much as you possibly can.

Like the three ballistas and multiple arrow carts y’all had in the camp?

robocafaz.9017:

From earlier tonight: http://i.imgur.com/q5exl7A.jpg

So you sit on a wall tagging people while they get killed by the arrow carts above you… impressive. That is a lot of loot though.

Some of you guys sure have a lot of free time

kfarb.6732:

Littlefeather.8623:

kfarb.6732:

I don’t really understand the question.

This is not the Maguuma I remember back in Oct/Nov last year and even through Jan. Back when Maguuma had monthly Boot Camps and a friendly team work oriented communit, just seems different now.

That boot camp thing only happened once and I can’t tell why you think our community has changed drastically, to be honest.

So what you are saying is Mag has always been bitter, angry and confrontational. What a lovely server you guys have.

Littlefeather.8623:

What happened to the Maguuma that fought RE when we were on DH months ago? This seems like an entirely different server. And not in a good way.

It’s kinda sad…

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Will someone get those Yakkies jazzed up on Mountain Dew so they can chime in now? Plz and ty.

Such an exciting thread for YB to comment on. Let’s recap:

Zero left Mag and went to Kain…

Mag’s feelings are apparently hurt but they are attempting to act like they don’t care and instead are happy he is gone…

Kain is thrilled to have him…

Yak’s couldn’t care less…

This entire thread should be renamed : Forum Wars – Mag vs. Kain

zastari.1730:

Still waiting for GvG

My money is on RE!

Tricare.2946:

@Farout.8207 Assuming someone speaks for the entire server is a little ignorant. I don’t only roam though. I have, on occasion, ran with a random zerg to take a keep or when the guild is getting together with 20+ to do some damage. However, running around and spamming the number one key and trying to tag as many targets as I can requires little skill.

@Strippling.2524 No one is claiming to be “too leet” for you guys. But, it does take, at a minimum, 2:1 odds for you guys to win most fights.

Thinking that I believe someone speaks for their entire server is a little ignorant in itself. Everyone runs with the Zerg at times and that is exactly my point, but most people don’t get on the forums and act like it is some exclusive behavior of their opponents.

I personally never run from fights but I will admit that I lose some and I win some. I even got beat by an up-leveled player once. Maybe one day, if I really work hard, I can elevate my game play to the level of the average Mag player. Then it will take at least two opponents, maybe three, to beat me. I’ll keep practicing!

zastari.1730:

Mag also likes to fight open field without an endless wall of Arrow Carts around them because playing characters is more exciting than pressing 1.

The arrow carts are definitely ridiculous now. They are pretty much sucking the fun out of the game and the changes need to be reconsidered. I prefer to actually fight my opponents as well.

Tricare.2946:

So YB/KN, I’ve been seeing a lot of bush league guilds and such running around and hiding in towers/camps from smaller numbers. Then when they get the upper hand with 3-4:1 ratio, think they’ve accomplished something, when earlier we wiped them. Are there any good small 5-10-15 man roaming guilds left? Or has everyone just succumbed to zerging everything thing and following the blue icon?

Oh and sPvP is a joke, they ruined the play style there, and there’s no open “open world” environment.

I really enjoy these repetitive posts that infer Mag only roams in small groups. You guys were rolling 80 deep in EB last night and the group in YBBL was close to that size. Not what I would call a small group but I digress, Mag only runs in small teams and every other server is made up of mindless zergers. Happy?

I prefer to WvvW and have all of the WvW areas but I am expected to run around PVE land completing heart quest and climbing vistas for my map completion. Life’s not fair!

Libertine Lush.1320:

Niim.9260:

The issue we found in lower tiers is that the WvW population is too low. Sure the zergs are smaller, but there are portions in the day where you spend more time looking for a fight, then fighting.

Even T3 was getting weak at parts of the day, was still good during prime time, but late afternoon was far to slow.

That’s something I’m concerned about. I wonder if the lower tier being more conducive to small scale PVP is mostly borne out of there being, maybe, far fewer people in WvW.

Definitely so… I used to be on a lower tier server and can remember running around flipping camps unopposed during off peak hours. Some folks may like it but It is not my personal play style.

Destroy the siege but don’t kill Siegerazer, that way they cannot kick off the breakout again and he just stands around doing nothing.

None of these so called bonuses will really matter much in the long run. Eventually everyone who plays WvW will have these maxed out anyway. My bonus to siege will just be offset my opponents resistance to siege. Additional supply will become the norm and will just require a group to take multple supply camps in order to get supply for everyone.

I personally don’t think it will make much difference at all. Maybe right at first but eventually it will all balance out and be pretty much meaningless. It is just Anet throwing an inconsequential bone to the WvW community. PVE gets fancy purple gear, WvW get extra damage against NPC’s that can already be easily soloed on an upleveled toon. Whoop-de-do… progression at its finest!

There is supposed to be new badge gear released in the next patch on the 26th.

taek.9386:

Over the week in EB during the late asian timezone a lot of us have noticed that DB only focus on us and clearly ignore YB, allowing them to fully recap their side and upgrade til fortification.

Every night DB (NNK/TFV great sportsmanship you guys have) will spawn camp SOS instead of attacking YB, even though they have the capacity to wipe them off the map in EB

It’s all a conspiracy…

The reason NNK/TFV focuses on SoS is, by the time they get on to play, the SoS Oceanics have flipped most of the map. It is only logical to focus on the server that holds the larger portion of the map and is gaining the most points. That is called strategy. It is convenient that DB’s late night crew comes on a couple of hours after SoS’s and can hand over a nicely colored map to day crew… but it is not some conspiracy. You guys sure are paranoid!

Yes I think marks should work on downed players as well. I find it a flawed mechanic that I can drop a mark on a downed player, that’s actively healing themselves or attacking me, and nothing happens. Bad design.

grave of hearts.7830:

Honestly i am curious how anet is going to deal with a server that broke the code of conduct on a mass scale.

Even if DB and Yak’s chose not to attack one another, which I seriously doubt, how is it a breach of the code of conduct? I have ran past opposing players and not attacked them, should I be dealt with? Whining is not a desirable characteristic…

Bern.9613:

Farout.8207:

Bern.9613:

Farout.8207

But snipers rely on hiding and not being seen.

How little you know of the sniper. A sniper does not hide. They become one with the surrounding environment. They are highly trained, highly motivated individuals, who can sustain themselves for extended periods of time… etc

I am actually retired Army so I do know a little about the military and the various tactics that are employed. I would personally consider putting on a ghillie suit so the sniper can “become one with the surrounding environment” to be a form of hiding but you sure set me straight. You are obviously the expert on all things sniper.

Once again, I have been proven to be in error to use an analogy from my personal life. For this I apologize to the others involved in this thread. Let us stay on the topic of the stealth nerf in game.

Yes and let us avoid arguing over semantics while we are at it.

Titan.3472:

Btw 4sec cooldown is enough to kill a berzerker thief (they will have to play on their “skill” to last longer now, no more “I-Win button”) :p

Yeah I imagine we will see fewer full glass cannon thieves which I fully welcome. It is completely ridiculous to be hit with an over 10k backstab from an invisible enemy on a fully knight geared warrior. At least now I have 4 seconds afterwards to smash them with my hammer.

Bern.9613:

Farout.8207

But snipers rely on hiding and not being seen.

How little you know of the sniper. A sniper does not hide. They become one with the surrounding environment. They are highly trained, highly motivated individuals, who can sustain themselves for extended periods of time… etc

I am actually retired Army so I do know a little about the military and the various tactics that are employed. I would personally consider putting on a ghillie suit so the sniper can “become one with the surrounding environment” to be a form of hiding but you sure set me straight. You are obviously the expert on all things sniper.

Bern.9613:

Think of the thief as a sniper. The most feared and hated element on the battlefield.

But snipers rely on hiding and not being seen. Come March 26th thieves won’t have the luxury of unlimited stealth any longer. It is long overdue in my opinion and I look forward to killing as many of you annoying F’ers as I can. The hunt is on!

Porky.5021:

Anet needs to step up and deal with these people rather than letting the game run with almost no management from the dev team. Some things we as players can do something about….some, we can’t and we need Anet to intervene. This is one of those things.

Most of us just want to run around, kill people and smash things.

Pretty much this. Anet does need to step up and address this. Unfortunately they don’t seem to be taking the task too seriously. I think everybody knows the whole server is not involved with the exploits but like I said earlier the actions of the few diminish the efforts of the many.

As for running around, killing people and smashing stuff, this matchup is great. I am enjoying the fights a lot. Both Yak’s and SoS are putting up some good fights. This is the best WvW we have had in a while.

Porky.5021:

Then there are no good servers. Every server I have played on or against has had hackers, exploiters, and just plain jerks who do things like zerg people 15 on 1 then dance on the corpse or send tells to the enemy to harass them.

If I generalized every server I played on and played against based on things like that, then all servers are cheaters and idiots.

I agree that every server has hackers but this small group from SoS is making a career out of it. Flipping every single bay keep, one after another, without placing one piece of siege is pretty lame. This is not an isolated incident, it is happening repeatedly.

zen.6091:

I’m sorry if the night capping is skewing the score, but please do keep in mind what SoS has been through the past few months.

In the meantime, just enjoy the game and don’t worry about things you can’t control. If I’m not mistaken, this matchup is at least more fair than when FA and TC were bouncing between T2/3.

I can’t speak for the entire server but I am personally happy to be fighting both SoS and Yak’s this week. Both are worthy opponents and the battles are much more even than they have been in the recent past. The overall score matters little to me as long as I am having a good time and I can honestly say this is the most fun I have had during NA prime in a long time.

You TC guys make me smile! Don’t worry too much about the Mag forum warriors. They’re the grumpiest bunch I have encountered so far. Maybe you guys can rub off on them.

I say Stewie FTW!

Intigo.1653:

Please stop spreading misinformation.

I was referring to Mike Ferguson’s post which he apparently edited since the last time I read it. Of course I can’t spend all day reading and rereading threads for edits.

MikeFerguson.8921:

We use existing mechanics like player kills and event completions to award world XP, but it is an entirely new system with new pieces of data associated to it so unfortunately there’s no way to award retroactive progress.

EDIT: I should have mentioned that once this system is live, everyone will have access to both this new system and the existing achievement titles.

We will be keeping all the existing WvW achievement tracks and titles associated with them, along with the progress you have already obtained on those achievements. None of that stuff is going away, so you can still keep working on those original achievement tracks and titles (which are intended to be extremely rare and obtained over years of play).

Sorry I didn’t make that clearer in my original post, we will have a blog post coming out before the patch explaining this new system in greater detail!

I believe the point of the post is that they are releasing new WvW achievements this month but the developers have said that they will not be retroactive. So the OP basically has over 1000 hours of playtime and those accomplishments mean absolutely nothing. A player jumping into WvW for the first time has the same achievement level as someone who has played WvW exclusively. The only difference is the first timer has better gear. It is pretty disheartening to me as well. WvW’ers get screwed again…

Jeknar.6184:

Farout.8207:

This game feels more like a job every day…

If you don’t like your job you can resign…

Yes I sure can.

This game feels more like a job every day…

It is becoming pretty obvious that the WvW players are a very low priority. I see the population getting smaller every day. It is a sad thing too since it is the only reason I play this game.

I am pretty much a WvW only player. I wouldn’t worry too much about not having ascended gear. I am in full exotics with no ascended gear at all. A lot of your hardcore WvW’ers are in the same boat since there was no way to obtain ascended gear in WvW until the recent release of laurels. If you have decent gear and a decent WvW build you will do just fine.

Barab.9016:

Remove swords all together IMHO. Us small group roamers need more anti Zerg game mechanics in WvW

Might as well do away with NPC’s while you are at it. The NPC’s are part of the tower/keep/camp defense mechanism. Why shouldn’t you be alerted when a enemy group is attacking that objective? What other purpose do the NPC’s serve? They sure don’t slow you down much.

VOLKON.1290:

What this change means is that WvW will become less fun for those people that will be required to be planted in towers and keeps to act as scouts, a role the NPCs were fulfilling fairly well with the old sword system. We have to dedicate people now to serve as NPC alarms effectively or lose structures to the hidden zerg.

ANet… it may be worth reconsidering.

This pretty much sums it up.

Aytrix.4059:

We have more necros then eles and guards combined. lol.

I have been fighting BT for a few weeks now and my combat log can vouch for this.

SlimGenre.6417:

On Millenium we’re only currently projected to be 1 pt above YB, so it’s possible we move down this week, if not then definitely next. Frankly I’m kinda looking forward to it, but only for purely selfish reasons, I need to finish mapping WvW to get my gift of exploration

It is true regarding match ups getting somewhat stale… especially since transfers are going to be fewer now. We’ll all lock into our positions, Mag will spend the rest of time bouncing between T3 and T4, FA will do the same T2 and T3, poor DB will forever be ranked in 8th place until the end of time… our servers might as well get used to each other…

Sadly, I am afraid you are correct in your assessment…

Digs.8435:

Thanks to [KREW] for good fights at North supply on DB BL last night. Your tactics are improving!

We have had some good fights for sure. We are really enjoying the battles with you guys, always a challenge!

Daokitten618:

Farout.8207:

OG talks so much trash and all I ever see is their backs as they are running away

Yes… into your spawn on our borderlands.

Daokitten618:

Farout.8207:

OG talks so much trash and all I ever see is their backs as they are running away

Oh? That must be either;

a) You’re surrounded by really awesome players in a totally skilled zergball.

or

b) We’re stringing you out from said zergball so we can kill you when you get that amazing sense of self confidence by outnumbering the enemy you rush forward when your friend have decided not to bother chasing.

Face it, you love us. We tickle you in all the right places.

I do enjoy your forum antics but honestly I have only seen you guys a few times in WvW. Usually when I see you guys you are running around the south end of DB BL near your spawn. I will confess that I am just an average player at best and you guys may be able to win a good many 1 vs 1’s against me, but I don’t run from a fight and I don’t need to come on here in an attempt to stroke my ego.

Pinko.2076:

Farout.8207:

dreztina.4820:

Ya, it’s a pretty lame tier. My only hope for the future of wvw here is that eventually FA and DB get tired of being zerg servers and start actually doing roaming pvp and maybe eventually learn how to compete.

Learn how to compete??? Maybe I forgot the score but I thought Mag was in 3rd. Sounds like you guys should learn to work together more, then maybe you could “learn how to compete.”

FA relies on superior numbers way too much. From defense, offense, down to individual builds. It’s no skin off our back, but FA keeps jabbering about t2 this, t2 that. You guys still have a lot of room for improvement.

I am no fan of the FA forum or battlefield tactics either as I am personally on DB, but hearing people on the 3rd place server telling us to “learn to compete” over and over is just humorous to me.

I would be happy if FA went to tier 2 but I am afraid we are stuck with them for a while. But even if they move up and TC moved down to join us it will be pretty much the same deal. Same goes for you guys, if you move down to tier 4 you will dominate and the match will get stale. Both DB and Mag are in a pretty crappy spot. Overpowered servers above us and underpowered below.

John Widdin.9618:

He’s right, I should learn to run off one hour of sleep.

I think Mag is a good server that brings some good fights, but OG talks so much trash and all I ever see is their backs as they are running away. If they learned to work WITH the rest of the server they might contribute to something other than the forum wars.

dreztina.4820:

Ya, it’s a pretty lame tier. My only hope for the future of wvw here is that eventually FA and DB get tired of being zerg servers and start actually doing roaming pvp and maybe eventually learn how to compete.

Learn how to compete??? Maybe I forgot the score but I thought Mag was in 3rd. Sounds like you guys should learn to work together more, then maybe you could “learn how to compete.”

Nice job, I thought it was a cool video. Some people on this thread sound a little kitten…

Mike.7320:

We have about 41 members, maybe 20 active. The most elite players this game has to offer.

People hate on us on forums because we have either
A) kitten them in wvw with half their numbers
B) Declined them entry to the guild.

Let the hate flow. Every server we fought learned our name quick. To say we are famous is an understatement. We have followers, stalkers and most of all haters. You cant get to be #1 w/o those along the way.

I think the reason OG is disliked on the forums is mainly because you guys talk an awful lot of trash, especially considering your small WvW presence. Most players have never even seen you on the battlefield, much less fought with you guys. The main reason everyone knows your name is because you talk about yourselves non-stop.

I have only seen OG one time in WvW. That was last night and that person choose not to engage me. To be fair there were quite a few people running around the area and it probably would have ended up a lop-sided battle. I am not saying you guys are not a good guild or have skilled players, I am just saying who knows and who cares?

pot.6805:

So from those fought Kaineng all week, how were they?

Their forum warriors are epic.

Sifu.6527:

Farout.8207:

I don’t think there should be an AoE limit at all. If you are too stupid to get out of the fire you deserve to burn!

Hi, can you let me know where the red circle is for the following AOE?

Meteor Shower
Mesmer Feedback
Mesmer TimeWarp
Guardian Symbols
etc

Nobody said anything about “red circles”, I said get out of the fire. When I see meteor shower falling from the sky, I get out of the way. All AoE limits do is promote the zergball mentality.

If the 5 man AoE limit was removed it would force people to break away from the safety of the zerg and actually fight against smaller groups. I think it would make for much better fights.

PS: I will add that I play a warrior so I don’t have much AoE capability in the first place.

I don’t think there should be an AoE limit at all. If you are too stupid to get out of the fire you deserve to burn!