ANet…I hope you realize that you’re destroying the Little League baseball teams…and making it a requirement that Guilds need to be Minor or Major League in scope to use the strategic upgrades that make a difference in the WvW Universe.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
That would be good to have. Don’t get me wrong, I like the names for everything, but it’s taking me forever to learn them. Billy Bob’s Kitten Shack has been claimed by…. blah blah… isn’t near as helpful as an alert that says NE Camp has been claimed by… we can reassign key bindings… a shame we can’t reassign map location names. I guess it just comes down to a matter of time spent learning the map.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
I’ve been roaming around with a guild mate or 2 during off peak NA hours. We’ve actually encountered a few other roamer out there in the past few days. However, we did notice the circular rotation we (and the enemy roamer) settled into going around the map, flipping shrines, camps, sentries. After a couple hours, well, we just stopped the k train and logged off. We did get challenged by one other enemy roamer, but after we fought him we didn’t see him again. We even stopped for a few mins and waited on the other k trainer behind us, thinking we might catch up, but I guess they paused too when we paused.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
35000 xp. In a place where the XP don’t count for masterys. Someone really loves to troll WvW players -.-
Ouch. Yeah. I hope they do come up with something useful for XP. Maybe give us a WvW ability track that gives some kind of class skill bonus? e.g. A minor decrease to recharge times or a small chance for xyz skill to recharge faster upon a successful hit or something, anything… I hate seeing those numbers go to waste.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
If they really wanted to draw players to the Oasis they’d put a couple dozen or so Rich nodes scattered around in there. Like the ones in the keeps and towers.
Edit: Even better… why not make a few nodes that are →ONLY<- found in WvW?
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
I have no clue how a small guild about 20-30 is going to decide to do that. WvW players don’t make huge amounts of gold ; the timegating and the gold sinks mean we won’t see the full ramifications of all the changes til at least 2-3 months in (I had one person calculate it to be 57 days at maxed mining).
So, basically, they (anet) bought themselves some time to work on some of the things that didn’t get done in time for HoT release. Now drop and give me 20! Seriously though they did tell us that it would take a while to work through all of these guild hall shenanigans, didn’t they?
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[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
They have a moderate unlock cost. That unlocks the schematic that a scribe must then build and put in line for construction.
The scribe portion requires a lot of Flax Fibers that basically make them cost so much that no one that has any are using them.
If you claim an objective (regardless of how long your side has owned it) you must wait 10 minutes for lvl 1, 30 minutes for lvl 2 and 1 hour for a level 3 tactic/upgrade.
If someone in your guild then moves your claim or the location is flipped, then there went that very expensive tactic or upgrade.
basically not worth it at the moment.
Only the lower level ones are even able to be made since scribe is stuck at 150.
Thank you for the response I heard from guild mates that the whole system is expensive. Doesn’t sound like we’ll be using then anytime soon due to the costs.
Why is scribe stuck at 150?!
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
Good point about the Tactivators. I still haven’t seen one in use either. So, is the biggest failure for HoT and WvW the Guild Hall? It just might be. No guilds were “grandfathered” in with things that were already unlocked (small guild killer). The potentially FUN things they added to the game mode are taking a long time to get to (tactivators?) and basic needs (claiming and auras). The cost and grind of the Guild Hall could be redone. Waiting months to finally find out that, hey, what the kitten this fill in the blank new WvW thing is too expensive to use or not worth the time and effort, etc. Blah blah… Have we even gotten to the place where people have used and formed an opinion on all the unlocks/upgraded yet?
TL,DR. Guild Hall grind is contributing to players giving up or getting bored.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
…or you could do what everybody else is doing and jump climb up and jump over the barricades… you don’t have to destroy them, they’re only a speed bump.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
@PetricaKerempuh /ponder… Well, the shrines don’t really bother me that much, I just think they’re in the wrong place and should actually be a part of the keep structure that gets built by players. The Oasis event …/no. Just no. That’s not what I’ve seen happen with it at all…ever. I think I remember it supposedly is a comeback mechanic, lol. No. You can’t use the Oasis because the 1st place server takes it. It’s really underwhelming anyways, a few bolts of lightning.. whoopdedoo… except I did get Fixer Upper (title) out of it, so I can’t really say it’s been a total waste. It’s sounds like there are actually people playing the BL in your matchup? Well, maybe a few, you’re ahead about 40k, right?
Edit: Designed for fights. ? Ehhh, you talking about the camps? the keep lords? or actually against other players? The roof of the fire keep maybe? The majority of this map is either one of or a combination of the following: choke, fall to your death, wasted space, poor visibility. Enlighten me, I just don’t get it. Seriously, I just don’t understand this map and I’ve been trying to.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
Dealing with the middle is fairly easy to wvw-ify. Remove the mutie-sauruses and make the temple thing a “soul collector”. Kills charge the laser. People want to avoid it? They avoid it. People want to fight? Seems like a good area for scrims.
Edit: or even a slow cap objective with kills speeding it up, if you want to force fights shrug
That sounds awesome. Please consider this. I was really really disappointed when I finally saw a couple enemies set off that “giant laser event” I sat on the wall at my garrison and watched a few bolts of red lightning hit the gates. It cycled a few times then poof gone. I was expecting to at least see fire raining down from the sky obliterating everything in its path. What a joke.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
I’m going to hang in there until May of 2016. If things haven’t improved, you just might find your inbox full of some goodies from me… ’cause I will have walked away from GW2 for good.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
3 years, they show absolutely zero love and zero support to this game mode. It deserves to die.
I keep getting this sinking feeling haunting the back of my mind that you’re right… that this was some kind of last ditch effort… that their lack of response to this forum means they’ve given up on WvW too.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
Worse yet is the complete silence from Anet since HoT release regarding any of the issues that the WvW community has brought up. I’ve been checking every day hoping for at least a simple acknowledgement that they’ve heard what’s been said. Not action, just an acknowledgement. It has now been 3 weeks and the best we’ve gotten has been the harvesting nodes being nerfed? Wow… Priorities.
If they just said something, anything, that suggested they were at least considering the issues, that’d make a HUGE difference for a lot of people.
I’ve been checking daily for responses too. They made a detailed response to the Fractals forum a couple days ago. No idea why there hasn’t been one in this forum.
Could you kindly walk over to the WvW team and tell them to get off their kitten butts and post an update on their plans to fix WvW since the game mode and community are hemorrhaging players and going the way of old Ascalon!?
I think… I think I love you for this.
+87,000,000 for both of you.
Edit: -87,000,000 anet for not having this kind of response in WvW forums.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
Bumping, would like to see a response on this from Devs.
LOL, it’s WvW related so you have 0.0001% chance of getting a response. Anyways, the PvP Kryta track does drop between 1-5 Heavy Supply Bag at 3rd and 23rd. Not really that difficult to do, just ridiculous and tedious. I’ve started farming the Kryta track I kitten at PvP, so, if I end up in your party, well, I apologize; however, if you see I’m on the opposing team, congrats, you just found some easy kills I also apologize for not giving a rip about the matches. I’m just there for the Bag, nothing else.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
The intention of this change was to make small groups taking objectives — nearly — impossible, not completely impossible, right? Besides, we’ve got supply sitting there waiting… just jog your 8 miles uphill in the sand both ways. Those med kits should include O2… I need a breather after those loooooooong runs to and from camps.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
I just noticed that trebs do a little over 8k damage to reinforced walls, BUT they only do 292 total damage to the ugly “piles of sticks” aka barricades. Seriously, how does this make any sense?
*There are two zeros missing from the end of treb vs barricade. Please move the decimal to the right two places. Thank you.
I also noticed that yaks still do that whole “ghost” rubberbanding thing in the BL’s. It’s right in front of you, you hit it, no damage, then it appears about 3000 range away.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
I haven’t seen any of the regular late night weekend crews that were always in my home bl… makes me sad. Maybe they’ll be on Saturday night? #haventgivenuphopeyet
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
This is just flat out flawed. Either the formula for calculating WvW participation needs numbers readjusted or it takes into account EotM attendance. Yak’s Bend is currently rated as “Very High” instead of Full despite being the highest rated wvw server on NA. Is the formula measuring a weekly attendance thing? Is it registering people zoning into WvW instead of time spent in WvW? Did my quick trip to the borderland to craft something count as my presence in WvW for that day/week? World balance is tricky, but if it’s not addressed again, things will go south. Guilds can no longer recruit from off their server and (I know from experience) are told that the best course of action to take is to transfer to a lower tier (please ask one of the 0 devs who plays wvw what their experience is outside of NA prime on a lower tiered server) or to try again when servers open up (not going to happen if the measurements are flawed). I’m guessing something was tweaked because now only 6 servers on EU are full instead of 12, and only 5 on NA, but I’m thinking it still needs addressing.
Whoa, #mindblown , …that thought never occurred to me. EotM shows up as part of the “WvW” map area of the game. Therefore, I believe EotM participation — does — count toward a server’s population, if it is? We don’t know how it’s calculated. If it does count then this is wrong. This is something that shouldn’t be counted towards a server’s WvW population. I can also see some ways how server population count could be abused by the (few) type of people that log into a competing server, grab their golems from spawn, and run them out to their friends so they can be destroyed. Anyways, I digress.
TL,DR — EotM should NOT count towards a server’s WvW population!
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
That whole shrine thing. Excellent example of how I feel about the Desert Borderlands map: some great ideas poorly implemented. How would I have done it differently? I would have made the 3 shrines actually a part of the structure of the keep that had to be built by players using supply. One shrine on inner that takes A LOT of supply. One shrine between inner and outer that takes a little less supply but still a lot. One shrine outside of the keep but within siege range that also takes a lot of supply to build. If attackers wanted to remove the defenders shrine buffs? Simply destroy them like a gate or a wall. IMO capping the shrines is just meh…
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
“That is a large part of the issue. Essentially any change to WvW rewards has to be balanced against the idea that players, servers, etc. might collude with one another to just farm rewards.
Players DO collude to farm rewards. Its called EoTM, and YOU created it, Anet.
+87,000,000
Edit: Perhaps servers —should-- get together and EotM the new Desert Borderlands maps? Red take Blue, Blue take Green, Green take Red… wait for total map cap then musical borderland… Red take Green, Green take Blue, Blue take Red, etc. Anybody think the Devs would respond?
Edit 2: Still, though, you’d actually have to have enough players to be able to cap the BL.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
How is the loot and wxp for you compared to in the past? Will it be able to sustain whatever you are doing? Did it take a hit, or was it improved? If you are planning to unlock an elite specialization, do you think you were helped or hurt in these regards? Do you think you could pursue any other in-game goals just by playing WvW?
I understand what this means now. For me personally: It is worse. It is horrible. There just isn’t any way to truly describe the bank-sucking-void-of-a-gold-sink WvW is. Seriously, it sucks… and don’t feed me that “drip, drip, drip” loot coming in kitten. I can spend the exact same amount of time in a PvE map and get a “flood, flood, flood”. Does my inventory get full during a guild raid? Sure it does. Does my inventory get full farming a PvE map? Sure it does, in 1/3 the time!
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
Well, if they didn’t get in at one gate… there’s always plenty of walls to take down. If a zerg/blob really wants your tower/keep, then they’re going to get it… if they know what they’re doing.
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
I’m in a large guild. We’ve been grinding the kitten outta that guild hall kitten. During raid today I asked about being able to see the red dots of enemy players inside a keep/smc… I was told it was an upper tier guild upgrade… kitten. Could someone please link the Dev post/video/twitch/tweet/smokesignal/morsecode/homingpigeonletter explanation on how all these timegated, wealth eating guild hall upgrades are supposed to work?
Edit: Do you see what I just did there (again) ? I admitted I don’t know everything that’s going on. I certainly don’t understand everything that’s going on. I came to these forums again thinking I’d find concrete information from Dev posts so I could learn about what/why they’ve done to WvW. #illgositinacornernow
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
There’s some stuff wrong with wvw at the moment. I roamed the new borderlands today and found a lot that didn’t make sense at all. Still testing though.
…And god knows when real balance will happen – that includes class balance and zerg balance (like the minus condi duration food nerf meaning a buff to the plus condi duration food buff and stability, boon stealing and all this stuff)….
Sometimes I feel like I was just “born yesterday”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the new HoT stats include condi/boon duration +/- ??? If they do, then no wonder they nerfed WvW meta foods.
Edit: Not because they want force the really competitive people to buy HoT (maybe?) but mainly because the people that do have HoT would become OP with the new stats and the UNnerfed foods. The WvW meta has been put in a meat grinder for sure… I wonder what will come out the other end?
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
After reading this thread I’ll have to admit that I hadn’t considered how easily the new upgrade system can be used to crush the 3rd place server every week.
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chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
Q: Have they been fixed yet? I haven’t been back to check since it was discovered last week. Fortified on top of reinforced on top of regular gates/walls
#defenseftw
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
Wow… just…wow. I’m almost speechless… and autoloot hasn’t made it into WvW …. yet. Riiiiight, it’s not that important for WvW… there could very possibly be a precursor lying there… the World (vs world) will never know…
Edit: oh, I almost forgot, “…the rewards drip drip drip in…” but only if you’re spamming F while you fight!
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
There is so many people in EOTM that are lvl 80+ [We can see by specializations]
or damage that they do/take.
Limit EOTM to maximum lvl 60, and orient those people to WvW.
We have serious problems people playing EOTM and WvW lacks of people.
You make a good point Firelsym, but not exactly the way you intended. That map, it’s design and style… was indeed originally intended for WvW map ques… and you have validated that the intention of that (style) map failed it’s purpose… Firelsym, the new WvW borderlands map is the exact same style map. You’re most welcome to it! Only difference is the match lasts 168 hours instead of 3 and you’re limited to the population of your current server. Perhaps the Desert Borderlands map SHOULD be opened up to the EotM crowd? Or even swapped with the EotM map…/cringe.
Edit: my guild got bored during our WvW raid the other day… we went to EotM just to find people to kill… mapchat: why are there two tags here?
mapchat: it’s a wvw guild, they probably can’t find anyone to fight so they came here to farm lootbags
mapchat: ok, so, which tag do I follow?
mapchat: depends on if you want bags or if you want karma
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
@ResilientCrab, apparently the responses are made on the reddit threads. So, to answer your question, I guess the community should move to reddit. I just installed a reddit app on my phone today
Edit: I finally ventured into the southern half of the new BL maps this week. It is so horribly vertical I doubt you’ll find any fights there unless you want to spawn camp. Your only other option for now it seems is to hang around the northern camps, flip them and nearby sentries, then wait and wait and wait and ambush (if and when) people show up to flip them back. There’s plenty of places to hide around corners etc. Especially in the NE camp area. You may have to wait a while. Even hitting the north towers to pop swords won’t get you hardly any attention… I’ve taken out walls with treb on north towers solo, trying to draw attention, and have been ignored most of the time… seriously, a treb, saying oh look here is exactly where I am come and fight me… #nolifeblsigntheDNRandpulltheplugalready
[AIR] Henge of Denravi aka Pink Abu, [BAMA] RollTide
chopping wood one day, dropped a piece,
all I could say was, “…fell…foot…”
I heard from guild mates that the whole system is expensive. Doesn’t sound like we’ll be using then anytime soon due to the costs.
. I do love the dailies, btw. That makes me happy and waters down my salt /yes.