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ANet has already commented on the feasibility of players designing armor in this quote
Regina BGimmeSylvariHi ! Will there ever be any official armor design contests?
Like the guild emblem creation, but for a full armor set? (Snip: question about emotes)
Armor is one of the most expensive things in the game to create. Armor is complicated and needs to be created with many considerations in mind, and these considerations may not be easily apparent or describable to fan armor designers. It isn’t a bad idea to run a contest like this, but it’s many orders more involved than other types of contests, which may be a better use of our limited development and marketing resources. We always have to weigh the pros and cons of any type of contest based on our marketing goals. (Snip)
thats why i said concept art. Players make concept art, anet then makes it feasible.
Concept art isn’t the hard part. I’m sure ANet already has lots of artists working for them who can make all sorts of armor concept art.
I never implied it was the hard part. my suggestion was to avoid anet having to worry “will the players buy this?” because they players could answer a poll saying whether they would or not. and players can contribute ideas they like. The point wasnt to make their job easier the point was so make skins overall more appealing for players by letting them contribute opinions and ideas before anet puts a lot of work into skins people might not buy or like. someone said maybe they make more outfits because skins sets have a higher work load for the risk of few players purchasing it so outfits are less risk , i was addressing that statement.
No doubt a nice idea. However each concept art is only what that individual player would like and it doesn’t say anything about whether it would be more appealing than anything an ANet artist could make. Which means it could be designed, accepted, a lot of work done and then still be a bust as few like it.
In addition, the non ANet artists would be creating without knowing or necesarily taking care to stay within the design considerations, meaning that concept art that needs to be heavily reworked to be feasible won’t be any faster or less costly than concept art made by ANet artists who know and respect the boundaries.
and thats why letting the players judge or at least do a poll of “yes i would buy this” or “no i wouldnt” would be in place for ANET designs (and was my primary point. with player designs being a ‘well maybe if the system is working, then why not’). They could easily put an ad in the gemstore “hey, head to the forums and let us know what you think of this batch of designs”
Anet does the easy part, make concept art, players say if they want it or not. if players say yes, its worth their time to make a whole skin set. if players dont, they scrap it and try again.
ANet has already commented on the feasibility of players designing armor in this quote
Regina BGimmeSylvariHi ! Will there ever be any official armor design contests?
Armor is one of the most expensive things in the game to create. Armor is complicated and needs to be created with many considerations in mind, and these considerations may not be easily apparent or describable to fan armor designers. It isn’t a bad idea to run a contest like this, but it’s many orders more involved than other types of contests, which may be a better use of our limited development and marketing resources. We always have to weigh the pros and cons of any type of contest based on our marketing goals. (Snip)
thats why i said concept art. Players make concept art, anet then makes it feasible.
Concept art isn’t the hard part. I’m sure ANet already has lots of artists working for them who can make all sorts of armor concept art.
I never implied it was the hard part. my suggestion was to avoid anet having to worry “will the players buy this?” because they players could answer a poll saying whether they would or not. and players can contribute ideas they like. The point wasnt to make their job easier the point was so make skins overall more appealing for players by letting them contribute opinions and ideas before anet puts a lot of work into skins people might not buy or like. someone said maybe they make more outfits because skins sets have a higher work load for the risk of few players purchasing it so outfits are less risk , i was addressing that statement.
ANet has already commented on the feasibility of players designing armor in this quote
Regina BGimmeSylvariHi ! Will there ever be any official armor design contests?
Armor is one of the most expensive things in the game to create. Armor is complicated and needs to be created with many considerations in mind, and these considerations may not be easily apparent or describable to fan armor designers. It isn’t a bad idea to run a contest like this, but it’s many orders more involved than other types of contests, which may be a better use of our limited development and marketing resources. We always have to weigh the pros and cons of any type of contest based on our marketing goals. (Snip)
thats why i said concept art. Players make concept art, anet then makes it feasible.
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Pity I main an asura
I am actually disappointed that my primary shield users are not asura. Personally I hate when shields are so huge and I find that the scaling on an Asura makes them more tolerable. I might make some new asurans specifically to use this shield without the size driving me crazy.
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Chaos gloves, but for every other piece of gear. Chaos chest, chaos boots, chaos pants, chaos hood . I just want to be a human shaped dyeable glow, sort of like an anomaly but…pink.
I want a way to hide avatars of other people that use this.
i dont blame you, but i still want it xD chaos gloves just dont match anything right now
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Maybe they will one day but it won’t be an easy or fast undertaking as it will require redoing all the armor in the game and redoing the part of the game that says which professions wears what and both the bank wardrobe and the hero panel wardrobe.
Of course more choices are always good, so we can hope it will be done one day. I have a feeling though such a restructure of this basic feature would introduce a lot of bugs as well as taking many dev hours to do.
Thanks to a forum poster for this depiction of possible mixed armors.
Hey, that’s my character!
And yes, other than the visual effects that picture shows, there would also undoubtedly be a lot of clipping issues when mixing and matching armour weights, such as heavy scale or light cloth skirts clipping through medium trench coats.
It’d be too many resources dedicated to solving the clipping issues when we already have a way of making your class look like a different class, namely the outfit system. But most people complain about that too.
they really wouldn’t have to do anything other than duplicate all the skins into the other categories, same as how some skins already unlock. every item would just show up 3 times. Yes there would be clipping but honestly there already is even using just one armor weight. At least this way players could wear all light on their medium class if they wanted.
It’s not just clipping. It’s the incompatibility between the placement of dye channels for different weights and that the hero panels are designed for each slot fitting a specific armor weight.
If heavy armor chest pieces end at the waist and medium armor chest pieces end at the ankles then how is the engine going to handle a piece that ends at the ankles being put into a slot made for a piece that ends at the waist? If the placement of dye channels are not the same across weights then how is the engine going to handle a piece with medium type dye channels being put into a slot made for heavy or light dye channels. If the dye channels of a slot are made for X placement of dye channels how can it dye an item with Y or Z placement of dye channels? How will it do this without causing numerous bugs?
well for one, none of that is what i would call a bug. two, all of that is a matter of visual preference and if you don’t like how mixing heavy with light armor meshes together then don’t do it. But that does not change that fact that even just putting ALL light armor skins on top of ALL heavy armor would be a really nice change that would allow players for more customization without having to completely overhaul all the current skin models. And three, the “dye channels” are connected to the skins not what the skin is transmuted onto so I have no idea why that is relevant at all. there’s plenty of medium skins that end at the waist as well as ones that go to the ankle and their dyes don’t seem to be having any kind of issue.
There is no perfect way to accomplish what the OP wants. But just copying all the skins to the other weights would be a relatively simple way to at least add some extra customization close to what many players are asking for. Some pieces will work together, some wont. But it’s the same story with the current setup anyways.
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(snip) When we started looking at bringing more of the clothing back into armor with mix and match styles there are some fundamental incompatible things between weight classes. (part of how we set up every armor to allow many dye channels and styles per piece). There really is no way at this point over six years since we started development to make absolutely everything work together. (snip)
alright then i have no idea what dye channels could possibly mean. But thats not very clear about whether that prevents all light on top of all heavy or if it prevents mixing weights.
Maybe they will one day but it won’t be an easy or fast undertaking as it will require redoing all the armor in the game and redoing the part of the game that says which professions wears what and both the bank wardrobe and the hero panel wardrobe.
Of course more choices are always good, so we can hope it will be done one day. I have a feeling though such a restructure of this basic feature would introduce a lot of bugs as well as taking many dev hours to do.
Thanks to a forum poster for this depiction of possible mixed armors.
Hey, that’s my character!
And yes, other than the visual effects that picture shows, there would also undoubtedly be a lot of clipping issues when mixing and matching armour weights, such as heavy scale or light cloth skirts clipping through medium trench coats.
It’d be too many resources dedicated to solving the clipping issues when we already have a way of making your class look like a different class, namely the outfit system. But most people complain about that too.
they really wouldn’t have to do anything other than duplicate all the skins into the other categories, same as how some skins already unlock. every item would just show up 3 times. Yes there would be clipping but honestly there already is even using just one armor weight. At least this way players could wear all light on their medium class if they wanted.
It’s not just clipping. It’s the incompatibility between the placement of dye channels for different weights and that the hero panels are designed for each slot fitting a specific armor weight.
If heavy armor chest pieces end at the waist and medium armor chest pieces end at the ankles then how is the engine going to handle a piece that ends at the ankles being put into a slot made for a piece that ends at the waist? If the placement of dye channels are not the same across weights then how is the engine going to handle a piece with medium type dye channels being put into a slot made for heavy or light dye channels. If the dye channels of a slot are made for X placement of dye channels how can it dye an item with Y or Z placement of dye channels? How will it do this without causing numerous bugs?
well for one, none of that is what i would call a bug. two, all of that is a matter of visual preference and if you don’t like how mixing heavy with light armor meshes together then don’t do it. But that does not change that fact that even just putting ALL light armor skins on top of ALL heavy armor would be a really nice change that would allow players for more customization without having to completely overhaul all the current skin models. And three, the “dye channels” are connected to the skins not what the skin is transmuted onto so I have no idea why that is relevant at all. there’s plenty of medium skins that end at the waist as well as ones that go to the ankle and their dyes don’t seem to be having any kind of issue.
There is no perfect way to accomplish what the OP wants. But just copying all the skins to the other weights would be a relatively simple way to at least add some extra customization close to what many players are asking for. Some pieces will work together, some wont. But it’s the same story with the current setup anyways.
Maybe they will one day but it won’t be an easy or fast undertaking as it will require redoing all the armor in the game and redoing the part of the game that says which professions wears what and both the bank wardrobe and the hero panel wardrobe.
Of course more choices are always good, so we can hope it will be done one day. I have a feeling though such a restructure of this basic feature would introduce a lot of bugs as well as taking many dev hours to do.
Thanks to a forum poster for this depiction of possible mixed armors.
Hey, that’s my character!
And yes, other than the visual effects that picture shows, there would also undoubtedly be a lot of clipping issues when mixing and matching armour weights, such as heavy scale or light cloth skirts clipping through medium trench coats.
It’d be too many resources dedicated to solving the clipping issues when we already have a way of making your class look like a different class, namely the outfit system. But most people complain about that too.
they really wouldn’t have to do anything other than duplicate all the skins into the other categories, same as how some skins already unlock. every item would just show up 3 times. Yes there would be clipping but honestly there already is even using just one armor weight. At least this way players could wear all light on their medium class if they wanted.
But then nobody would wear medium armor at all!
I like them! This is the first game that lets me wear trench coats so I’m going all out on committing a crime against fashion.
It’s not really a crime against fashion…it’s more like a crime against in-game reality, insofar it applies. While I can see Rangers wearing trenchcoats, a thief wearing one just makes no sense to me. A big, swishy coat is the opposite of stealthy; if our armor actually gave off sounds like real clothes do, you’d hear that thief from a mile away while they’re trying to sneak up on you.
I mean if we are being realistic, thieves should’ve been light armor anyway, possibly switched with necros. ANet just wanted all the spellcasters to be light armor, and thief is definitely not a heavy armor class.
thieves/rogues are also medium/leather armor in just about every game. not really an anet thing. But i would probably make 5 thieves if they could wear light armor