Guild Wars 2

IntheCoconut.3497:

I haven’t been able to find any of this information. Where does it say everything will be reset and that we’ll have to re-unlock all our skills/traits?

Sorry to be that person, but does anyone have a link to where someone from ANet said you will only have 400 points to spend, and how that wont be enough to unlock everything even if you’ve done so previously?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/ready-up-core-specializations-summary/

And yes, people have interpreted some of the information differently, but general consensus seems to be that it reads we will have our traits and skills wiped when this system goes live, and be rewarded hero points for the levels and skill challenges completed by each character. Excess skillpoints beyond the number of completed hero (skill) challenges completed will become a crafting material.

spoj.9672:

All this time you’ve spent reading/argueing in this thread could have been used to get those skill challenges.

Nah. I only read and reply when I can’t be in game.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I would like to point out that in the time since this thread started every person in it could have obtained 50% world completion by just playing 1 hour per day. This is almost triple of what will be needed to get full unlock status in the expansion, i.e. three characters worth of unlocks.

I’d would like to point out that they shouldn’t have to.

An hour a day running around tagging skill challenges to unlock things we already earned is an hour not spent doing something in game we either enjoy more or give rewards we haven’t already earned.

Cool city made out of ships to be replaced with impersonal looking monumental architecture.

Woohoo!

And I get a multiple choice poll to name a couple of the landmarks.

Bonus!

Don’t touch it, it’s EVIL!

And yeah, the thread is mocking the Dragonhunter name, not the thread discussing the name.

I don’t blame ArenaNet. I blame people who want to play video games like a full time job. Nothing short of long grinds will satisfy them, and so developers cave.

You just have to decide.

1. Is Ascended worth it?
2. If not, does it bug you enough that I don’t want to play the game.

I landed on getting ascended jewelry and weapon on all my characters, and being satisfied with exotic armor. That suits my middle of the road (not uber casual, not hardcore) play style. Until another, shinier MMORPG comes along, I’m pretty much content there.

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Raged?

How did I miss that?

I love AFKers. I faithfully revive them each time I run past.

Silvia.9130:

Don’t you dare take away running on all four from my Charries! Q_Q

The running on all fours is a nice touch, I just wish it felt more fluid and less like a slow lope.

I expect more people would be satisfied leaving one post of their thoughts if others didn’t try to argue they are wrong. Then again, I’m probably wrong.

And it wouldn’t be a discussion.

Problem is, with the way they hold on to information until things are pretty much done, it is always either too early or too late.

Kaleban.9834:

First post in this merged thread: two months ago.

How hard is it for ANet to login to the forums, type out “yes” or “no” and be done with it? Letting forum warriors speculate on stuff like this for months on end is really foolish. Its also toxic to the community and is basically the company thumbing its collective nose at the players.

But, given the lack of rapidity in fixing bugs and glitches with each patch, not to mention that nearly three years in there are still release bugs and issues that were never resolved, I can’t say I’m very surprised.

Monetization choices seem to happen very late in their development process.

tolunart.2095:

Jehuty.1938:

Yeah but….no
Guild wars 2 is intended to be different than that. Anet said countless times that they want the “journey to be the goal” rather than grinding new stuff to be able to play the new content.

So the OP is totally right in this particular point.

And a large number of players insist on treating the game like any other MMO. So who can blame the devs for giving players what they want? Thus they introduce fractals, ascended gear, optional stuff to grind for, “raid” boss Tequatl, an expansion, gear reset… it wouldn’t surprise me if they change their minds and raise the level cap too.

Until recently, their stance was that they always intended to one day raise the level cap. And as we all know, nothing is off the table.

I can’t seem to get a Charr past level 20 because of the hunch and slow, loping run. But I’m not terribly bummed by it.

ANet to players: “Don’t bother making Ascended armor.”

Okay, ArenaNet. Message received.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Kubrick.5740:

“really would not like delete a lvl 80/Buy character slots for a new revenant.”

Are we sure that the OP didn’t mean maxed out FREE slots?
Because I’m maxed out on free slots and I think it is ridiculous for a game that has no end game to not allow people to have at least one of every class included in the gosh darn game.

I’m not spending a penny for a new character slot if one is not included in the xpac. In fact, I’m not even going to buy the xpac if there isn’t one. (or if there isn’t any end game content included, but that’s a different story)

I think it is really, really, dumb when a game doesn’t give enough slots for 1 of ever character. If you have to weed people from their money that way, that’s the sign of a bad game.

You didn’t get the memo where the whole game is endgame, did you.

Kinda hard to see that in the game GW2 became. It made a lot more sense before Ascended gear, Fractals, and LS. Since launch, endgame looks more like traditional MMO endgame than a seamless whole with the leveling experience.

When enough people post in these forums about not liking something, it’s pretty much guaranteed someone will mistake thread volume for rage and contribute by telling people how pitiable the are for getting worked up about something so small and dismiss them as a insignificant, though vocal minority. This,of course, riles people up and becomes self fulfilling.

It’s about as reliable as new “we need mounts” threads and the “go back to WoW” responses they generate.

purecontact.1680:

RabbitUp.8294:

I disagree with the name and kit of the “Chronomancer”, but I’m not gonna bother making whiny threads about it.

There is already one! :p

Not sure if trolling.

Did you miss that the thread you linked is a spoof of the Dragonhunter name, not an actual Chronomancer complaint thread?

RabbitUp.8294:

Gibson.4036:

I’ve noticed an inverse correlation between developer participation and player harshness.

In threads where a developer shows up and joins the dialogue, the snark and rage simmers right down and people get more respectful (there are always stand out bad apples). You’ll see this in economic discussions with Mr. Smith, or the CDIs. Or when Gaile pops in for a little back and forth.

Just an observation.

The discussion turned a lot more aggressive after Jon posted. Just because people misunderstood a specific term they could have easily googled for.

Well, I did specify joining the dialogue, not dropping a single explanation post and shadowstepping out.

Dawnbreaker.6215:

There is no way in hell something as big as Tequatl can fly.

Guys, I think we’ve been missing something very important in the OP.

We could have pointed out that Tequatl flies in Sparkfly Fen, not Hell, and avoided this whole three page thread.

Dawnbreaker.6215:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Actually Tequatle operates under real Tyrian physics. In Tyria earth is lighter than air while in the presence of a strong magical field and over water. As a result of their undeath the dragons are constantly in a strong magical field and also count as and contain a large quantity of earth. Since the undead dragons tend to operate almost exclusively around large concentrations of water their mass is negated by this physical property of Tyria.

Do you have a source to backup these claims? Or are you just inventing this as you go?

Maybe someone can convince the Priory to set up some of their glowy technomagical widgets that they like to scatter about Tyria to collect data so we can find out.

MrRuin.9740:

Since you were keeping score, it sounds to me that with your apparant lack of imagination, you are the one losing.

Actually, the fact that we keep engaging his silliness, and the thread keeps going, is a kind of win for Dawnbreaker.

Still waiting for the answer on how DB goes about breaking dawn. Hope I didn’t miss it somewhere back in the last two pages.

Inimicus.7162:

Gibson.4036:

Not ignored. The answer seems to be it’s okay for a magic user to use a physical weapon to channel magic through, but it’s not okay for a physical fighter to thunk someone with a weapon designed to channel magic.

Again you miss the mace vs scepter argument which addresses this.

No, I didn’t miss it. I was trying to summarize what I got out of it. Melee vs. ranged autoattack, magic weapons can look like martial, but not the other way around. Went back to look at it again, and I’m not seeing anything different.

Gibson.4036:

What exactly defines the line between a regular skin and a “joke” skin?

Are the pearl weapons joke, or non-joke skins?

See comment about greatswords if they were rescaled.

It’s far more than a scale issue. Look at that Pearl Broadsword. It’s not only ridiculously big, it’s a spatula. Rescale it more “realistically” and you don’t get a realistic sword, you just get a smaller spatula.

What’s a joke weapon? Ask yourself which weapons were made with whimsy or humor in mind and which ones were made with that not so humorous, but still pervasive attitude that they need to be carrying the biggest most flashy thing they can get their hands on. Think of the nuclear cannon, Big Bertha or the Tzar Bomba built during the cold war. For these people it’s all about the size and shine, and while watching this is somewhat humorous to me personally, I don’t think over sized weapons were all done with giggles in mind.

Your arguments come across as very circular to me. People point out ridiculous weapon designs, and you say we have to dismiss joke weapons. When asked how we know which ones are joke weapons, the answer seems to be the ones that are unrealistic.

Okay, so all the weapons in the game are realistic once you dismiss all the unrealistic ones. Does that argument demonstrate anything? At all?

Shiki.7148:

RabbitUp.8294:

That would be more akin to a Ranger. Well, he is a Ranger and befriended an army of ghosts he found in the wilderness.

Sorry but your comment was in no way funny, but a rather serious description of what actually happened in LotR.

That’s not at all an accurate description of what actually happened in LotR.

cletiscake.9173:

Everyone is losing their minds over a name and pushing for a different name that doesn’t even fit the theme of the Specialization.

I don’t see many who are as far as losing their minds over it.

And you have to admit, there’s not much else to talk about until they reveal the Death Stabber later this week.

Who?

/15Charrondeadman’schest

What exactly defines the line between a regular skin and a “joke” skin?

Are the pearl weapons joke, or non-joke skins?

Why doesn’t my character ever have to use the bathroom?

Is that normal, everyday magic?

Zypher.7609:

Just wanted to toss in my input that I think the name choices for both have been great and well fitted. Just wish the vocal minority would not be so harsh with their feedback. But that tends to be the majority of feedback on any gaming forums. Everyone seems to be a game developer now a days.

I’ve noticed an inverse correlation between developer participation and player harshness.

In threads where a developer shows up and joins the dialogue, the snark and rage simmers right down and people get more respectful (there are always stand out bad apples). You’ll see this in economic discussions with Mr. Smith, or the CDIs. Or when Gaile pops in for a little back and forth.

Just an observation.

RabbitUp.8294:

Inimicus.7162:

So many of you ignore the maces versus scepters argument.

You ignore the Staff vs Greatsword/Hammer argument. If it was this necessary to restrict weapons to physical and magical roles, we wouldn’t have the Mesmer Greatsword and Revenant Staff.

Not ignored. The answer seems to be it’s okay for a magic user to use a physical weapon to channel magic through, but it’s not okay for a physical fighter to thunk someone with a weapon designed to channel magic.

purecontact.1680:

Maybe the chronomancer will be the only one staying in the “Scholars” archetype.
We may have a weird name like “Dragonknight” for the necromancer.

Greatsword necro.

“Death Whacker”

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

^I see what you did there. Lol.

Nope. You’re reading in to it too much.

You were probably one of those people who got fooled by the completely meaningless jerseys, weren’t you?

Dawnbreaker.6215:

Tequatl is not normal everyday magic.

I’ve always hated normal, everyday magic. Kinda takes the wonder out if it.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

For example, the Harry Potter stories (and the Harry Dresden ones, too, for that matter) invent a new sort of magic whenever the story requires it. Any consistency is either coincidental or a result of an amazing memory (or note taking ability) of the author (and their editors). On the other hand, Larry Niven goes out of his way in his Gil Hamilton (and Magic Goes Away) stories to provide all the science (or magic) needed to solve mysteries long before the end of each tale.

I’d say this is something completely different than trying to apply scientific principles to magical beings. It looks like you’re talking about whether a particular story remains internally consistent or not. Does it have rules it sticks with, or does it make stuff up to suit where the creator wants to take the plot?

Fairy tales, one of the roots of what we call fantasy, have rules, and stick with them. They’re just not the rules of science. A creature can be covered in eyes because it is a manifestation of its ability to perceive truth, and it doesn’t make any sense to point out that after the first half dozen or so, any other eyes are just redundant.

So, yeah. I wasn’t saying that fantasy means “make it up as you go along”. I’m saying that wings make things fly, because that’s what they are for. It doesn’t matter if the creature is too big for the physics, the wings wrongly placed on the body, or if the wings are way too small in proportion to the creature that uses them.

Death Hacker.

Cause Greatsword. And Dragon Hunter.

“Death Stabber”! Or, given greatsword, “Death Hacker”!

Cool art, btw, ArenaNet.

Scar.1793:

talking about NPCs, I find them in GW2 to be either too good or too bad. Nothing in between. That’s a shame because characters like this can make very interesting stories.

Huh.

Like King Adelbern? Or the Sylvari that turns to nightmare, not because he’s evil, but because his lover did? Or how Caithe ignored for far too long how vicious Faolain became?

Dawnbreaker.6215:

Well yes, because here’s the thing. Those things are normal magic. But Tequatl actually has wings and actually flaps his wings to fly, so I assume that he’s using his wings to fly, not magic. I don’t see him summon a magic carpet to fly or a broomstick, he clearly uses his physical (in game) wings to fly. The wings would never work, you have to admit that.

Why do angels often float in the air with wings outstretched? It’s clear the wings aren’t supporting them.

Why do people with telekinesis often point at things as if they are lifting them with their hands?

For that matter, why do telepaths touch their temples?

Why are the Seraphim covered in eyes all over? What would be the purpose of that many eyes?

You’re trying to fit fantasy into a scientific mindset. It just doesn’t work. Look at it like a believing child. Flying things often have wings, because wings are for flying.

Tachenon.5270:

Gibson.4036:

What does “high concept” even mean?

According to dictionary.com, high concept is a…

noun
1. a simple and often striking idea or premise, as of a story or film, that lends itself to easy promotion and marketing.

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-concept

Example: ‘What if there was a world dominated by giant cave asura who ran around terrorizing people with their limited vocabularies and big clubs!’

Star Trek, for another example, was pitched to the TV guys as ‘Wagon Train to the stars!’, Wagon Train being a western TV show about a (wait for it) wagon train making its way from Missouri to California. So the ‘Wagon Train to the stars!’ was the high concept there.

Thanks, that’s not at all what I would have expected.

And doesn’t really seem to fit the Dragonhunter.

Seyiwaji.4082:

So much immature kids…. This is sad to fill this topic with such kitten answer.

Lighten up a little. It may not be your kind of humor, but some of us are laughing. Why’s it bother you?

Other than the issue of having to generate a lot of new skins or having a limited variety of melee staff skins, making them two distinct weapon types also has an impact on loot tables, creating one more type and decreasing the chance of getting one your character can use. It also means designing and adding an additional new legendary.

Seems like the simplest approach, rather than making melee staves a completely separate weapon from caster staves, would be to introduce some plain melee staff skins for you.

My thought is that if it’s a distinct weapon, either ArenaNet has to get busy and make a ton of melee staff skins or restrict melee staff users to a very small range of visual options.

If they do a half dozen melee staff skins with the introduction of melee staff specializations, but keep them as the same weapon as caster staves, then every user can decide for herself whether she wants to thump people with a Bo or The Bifrost.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/How-about-new-beards
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Beards-please/first#post4977513

I would like a short, full beard, too, please.

From before launch, ArenaNet stated they made a design choice that this was to be a “heroic” game. Players will be cast as heroes.

That doesn’t preclude them from playing with grey areas with NPCs, though. The seem to be doing a better job of that as time goes by. They also had us play through an NPC making a dark choice just recently, though that was controversial.

Your private RP is up to you.

Gibson.4036:

Just to summarize the last 3 years of this topic.

Against:

1. Waypoints.
2. Screen clutter.
3. Bad animations.
4. Balance around speed buffs.
5. Mount trolling.
6. Trivializing content by skipping
7. the Lore!11!!!1
8. I don’t like them.

For:
1. Whatever
2. Maybe you could turn them off?
3. See #2, besides ArenaNet does pretty good animations.
4. OOC speedbuffs shouldn’t be a balance issue, or don’t give mounts a speedbuff.
5. Lock them out of cities and vendor areas
6. See Waypoints.
7. List of examples where horseriding is referenced in both GW1 and GW2
8. I do.

Did I miss anything?

I realized I did miss something.

9. Go back to WoW! This isn’t WoW!

9. I forgot WoW invented mounts.

Dante.1763:

Told ya it would end up here.

Especially after flagging it for the forum moderators to do so.

spoj.9672:

Gonna be necro. :P

Death Hacker

Black Box.9312:

…my guess goes to Thief.

Stealth Rifle

What does “high concept” even mean?

ronpierce.2760:

Sounds like Powercreep to me.

Now there’s a good name for a Necro elite specialization.

I’m picturing him wearing at threadbare velvet leisure suit, hanging around seedy alleys, hoping his undead Krytan Drakehound will endear him to the ladies.