Guild Wars 2

Honestly t2 become boring. Koa and kodash blob because they cant much our guilds. Deso is one faceless zerg only god blob alone seems they are the new iron. We try to have fun running 2-3 comanders and 20-30 man groups but yeah we get only blobed gg
We in sfr dont care for scores it is jukittennny to see how Deso become same as Vz night cap and day blob:D I suppose pvd is fun? I am surprised you have such a night force to be honest. I suppose Kodash feel bad,beaten every other week from us and Js now Deso always third must be annoying and boring. At least they try to fight even if they blob not like Deso just runing under AC and pvd t3 keeps. The skill level of deso in eu prime time is worse than ever. Maybe only god are good but with their crazy numbers and blob we need to blob and at the end it become skill lag. But fun fights last night. Deso/God blob felt the truth when two skilled groups from Rise and Con wiped them few times.

When you are outnumbered you will lose soon or late. The Ac problem is the dps and the amount of AC people put on keeps and even open battle. We play in t2 eu right now. I am commander from SFR. And what we face everyday is 10 ac inner hills/bay you know what ammount of dps is this? if you try with less than 50 you just cant sustain to get to the wall not even take it down. Siege even with 50% less dps just melt from so many Ac. So I agree they may buff gate and walls but nerf the AC dps to players. It is not fun when before open battle your enemy drop 3-4 ac just to fight in open field ?!?!?!!? Are we playing wvw or AC vs AC ?

those changes seems only to bring the pve guys to wvw and blobs… will be even harder to make somene scout upgrade now. All will want ranks badges to buy the shinies…. As for badges have ton of them personal wvw rank is 100,but honestly I use them to buy siege and new supply traps.
As it is mentioned above, nothing about changing the AC ? So we will continue play ac wars it seems. Honestly it is ridicilous to see 100 enemies hiding in tower,or inner of keep, under the protection of 10 superior arrow carts.. and 2-3 trebs.honestly how can you break in? Dmg from Ac almost kill you before you go near them and you have 100 people dropping everyting on you,some lag too try with trebs.. gg they have defensive trebs and we can use elementalist to protect ours already or guardians….

Also some guys speak that warriors necros are not good in wvw. Pls stay out of wvw if you dont understand it play your Spvp,pve and just shut up ok ?

Jade sea? = arrow cart only fight ? you ever fight without arrow carts and full zone zerg? honestly we could have so much fun in sfr bl tonight and only arrow carts wars so disappointing…

Honestly let me make something clear. We dont want to go T1 we don’t care for js pushing for t1. We have fun we know we lack a day guild or two and a night guild. If we push we hold night pretty well but no point to do it. And noone on our server is raging. It is just funny you know see 100 people go for a paper tower ect. As on the reset night you opened 2 towers for us with trebs from supply camps And yeah I was guilty we took it instead of you. It was all happening on sfr bl:

Honestly comanded the defensive force on sfr bl. Js really defending and moving in 1 big blob, is it fun ? and so many arrow carts from the two enemy servers. God really hope Anet change them soon. It is insane to see 100 man blob build 5+ ac in paper tower for 2 mins just to defend it. Epic fight in garrison. I wanted to take hills or bay but yeah home map everybody push you.But we did nice holding our part of map.

And guys we have fun this t2 but pls dont blob why you do it? I have 30 man on ts with me and we had 2-3 smaller guilds raids,made me get 60 on me just to defend garrison and to fight your big groups. Big groups are not fun having lag and skill delay is annoying.

Well it was fun on JS bl today I led the big force arround 40-50 people some crazy fight VG were doing guild raid. I didnt knew you have gvg,I just searched for fight and as you and js were mostly staying on big groups I just wanted to have fun.

Some players are trying to alienate casuals and pugs by forcing them to join Teamspeak, and completely leave them out of any information if they don’t join, hiding the Commander Tag and everything.

No one is alienating anyone.It is just simple logic. We have music bots fun ect. on ts. There is nothing like hearing a russian or dutch speaking english or one angry bulgarian like me on ts. This is the tip who I am
Ts is for organization I cant fight full map js zerg with only 20 on ts with other half dieing on first fight. Or 40 koa when people dont listen….
As for t2 we recovered from slow started while we have our russian brothers in arms we are fine. Big shout to Ecl to coming back to us.
Nice fight with kodash . But honestly Js moving 60+ people over the maps to flip t3 hills? it is not fun this way I suppose it is effective,but yeah the lag make it very frustrating and hard to defend.

so you now needed ac hack? to get our t3 hills on your bl? I suppose you are kitten we actualy started to fight and now is working day and you cant blob all the maps …..

Honestly I will speak from my commanders point of view. You know I am this guy that wipe you all. At the reset was bulkitten we try to have fun 3 small guild raids on js bl, kodash and js 1 big blob staying on their part of the maps doing nothing. So you have teamed against us nice we are used to 2v1. Right now we dont care to build siege we dont like the ac change we dont like to play this way and honestly. Why should I siege something like hell I know how to do it. When our night and morning caps right now are no existance and you will jsut pvd it? We like to have fun we know what we have right now. We didnt expected 2v1 for sure.And yeah js kodash learn to fight not hide only behind walls and ac. Ac wars are boring….. Yeah you can protect your t2 garrison from me with 100000 ac only because kodash attacked our hills but ok. I suppose I can expect this from french… as you are the worse copy of vz and all your better guilds player go to vz . You remember LMN? as for kodash huge numbers good day and night covarage but same bulkitten only ac wars and blobs… On reset you wiped my boys 2-3 times on the Hero’lodge, I had only 20 on me needed to get ext vg on me and once we started fighting 50vs 50+ in your advantage you started to wipe out and got sad.

little damage,but when you kill them, they rally your downed players giving you a number advantage….

The ac is horible. Last night all Vz did was hide in t3 bay inner put like 20 ac.Siege limit full? and no there is no entering there with 20 ac shooting on you and 100 people creating heavy lag that you can use oonly autoattack and skills with 5-10 seconds delay. I dont know how is it in lower tiers but in t1 is pretty bad. Man I saw Vz and Deso build ac before a open field fight ?!!?! wtf are we fighing or playing siege/ac game ?

Well honestly I understand Wl. T1 is dead. And this ac change is the worst ever. Today sfr was bulkitten. We broke bay and what vz did hide inside lord room and inner walls with like 30 ac inside,probably couldn’t drop more because of siege limit… no way you go through this right now. then same kitten in Hills… You have 50+ zerg and dont fight open field why? we were equal numbers,no you go under ac protection and walls. You even build ac in Arah hope before we fight.. What is worse even deso do this kitten….

So glad we are going down a Tier at least some fun and fights. Siege wars and ac pressing 1-2-3 is not fun….. enjoy your fun Vz while you can. Faceless zerg is not the way to win but right now sfr is still rebuilding. And anet changes… Welcome to the wall hiding and ac spamming gg.

this build is so bad I cant even describe you, why using so many shouts without purity of voice. And guardian got nerfed a bit to heal max amount of condition you need you shouts traits… honestly and those 3 shouts. Save yourselves without cond removal is pure death.. No wall of reflection or sanctuary. This is just a single minded narrow I am by myself build

Troma.3250:

Hmm nah sorry Zgroza but there is 99% french-speaking people of eu on VS. You are making an huge old mistake

Honestly Troma having 50-70 on the maps in 4am or 7 am eu time.. and you are 99% eu french people.. At least be honest

AndrewSX.3794:

About Sfr or Deso not aiming to be n°1: it’s just that situation has changed.

Pre – March patch:
Sfr climbs up again to T1, with a strong VS and a competitive Deso. Sfr wins 5 times in a row, sometimes with cosiderable advantage, sometimes Deso is 2nd other 3rd, sometimes VS is very close 2nd due to a full server CTA. The T1 is blobby and laggy at times, but it’s FUN and it’s BALANCED.

March patch:
Brings back ppl to WvW. VS coverage start to grow up again, but nothing gamebreaking happens. Deso got lil stronger. SFR gets free transfer… which simply KILLS it. Because ques times skyrockets, bad ppl join from lower tiers and the whole guild raid based primetime dominance disappear. Guilds starts to leave due to this. Deso start bleeding of players too short after. VS coverage instead keeps growing.
Soon SFR and Deso understand that, for multiple reasons, there is no point anymore to challenge VS – it’s just not doable due to WvW design and unbalance.

Last month:
VS has 60 ppl zerging on each map at any given hour of the day.
Deso hardly gets rid of outmanned buff on more that 2 maps.
SFR is flooded of unwilling to collaborate ppl and spend most of his time to retrain/rebuild the community.
YET, rating system locks SFR and Deso, not able to hold their ground anymore outside the few primetime hours due to straight lack of numbers, in T1. This worsen the situation more and more for the 2 servers, where ppl keeps moving away/quitting game due to this.

Now:
Last patch BUFFED VS playstyle – cap by night and bunker in T3 stuff with tons of ACs all the day.
IRON, the largest guild of deso, his backbone, drops the wvw.
SFR this match will, hopefully, be able to drop and switch place with Elona.

So, when you talk about EU T1 please, keep in mind this. It’s not that nobody has the aims to be n°1. Just that atm, due to VS superior coverage and now buffed extra dull playstle, nobody wants to play with them – and there’s no point to because the numbers are way too unbalanced in off-time.
Also, the only server who was competing and winning, SFR, got killed by Anet with transfers while it was on top of ladder… So don’t blame the server community for that.

(no blame to VS, even if i just can’t understand how you guys are happy of this situation – were it’s not your fault ofc, but surely you have a part in this developement. again, peace!)

so much truth in this post

Ok nice we have reply at least.But I want to comment on something in theory using other siege is ok,but when ac outrange your catapults? what you can do. Or try to treb the walls while other have defensive trebs and now we cant block the treb shots?
Also if the ac is behind the gate or on a stairs behind the gate? you cant kill it with your ac or with balista. The ac buff was crazy. Right now Hills is untakable,if defended by 10 guys with ac. I am glad we finaly have fast response and they are looking on the things but why we needed whole wvw comunity to rage for something before Devs acknowledge their mistake?
I am ok with siege weapons being powerful but I want variety not only ac.Make it tactical to use trebs catapults ect to attack wall or gate for advantage not just spam 1-2-3 on your ac for the win.

It is so stupid,with VZ building siege in crazy numbers and now this buff to ac dmg..It is almost impossible to get t3 tower now or keep you need time to treb cata it like hell while zergs come on you,and the 30 seconds free cd on contested keep is bulkitten….This patch only promote the bunker style and hide behind doors. Honestly this AC buff is the worst not even speaking for using the Ac mastery…
I dont know what Anet think maybe we have all to build siege and watch each other from the walls…

Wvw stay the same no change there. The utility of null field,veil, signet of inspiration is second to none. So while roaming builds may and surely will change wvw is not gonna change! portal is very situational. For all the cry confusion is very good,yeah but now nerfed,but you still remove conditions on allies give conditions to enemies,give invisibility ect. So this nerf dont change anything.

You cant deal with 3 hours q and mindless people. And right now t1 is dead but as much players fault it is anet too. For promoting the pvd playstyle and blob. Vz you just cant fight not in blob. It is hilarious when you run when you see me coming leading sfr force. Last night in Sfr bl again run everytime you see me wtf… cho vss and hup. You were on sfr bl. We are jsut playing for fun not caring for points. And if to be in t1 means to pvd and just fight the mindless blob I am ok with dropping from it. And actualy we were destroying everything before the free transfers. Anet destroyed the best wvw server in eu and na with those free transfers and this is the sad true story.

yeah guys seems you dont know kitten of wvw, just theory. In zerg p t v gives you best from both ability to soak dmg and time to do your dmg,you can play with the earing amulet ect. but p/t/v or knight armor are a must. In zerg even upscaled chars when is 100 blob whole zone can kill you in seconds if you go zerker or glass build.

SFR, to me, has only harvested what they spread : hate & rage, to me so many players just didn’t want to get involved anymore in that awful & shameful process.

I wanted to comment on this. You understand that we beat you 5 times in a row. Only thing saving you on Vz is the kittening stupid free transfers from Anet. Our server was and is still medium. We were not able to play normaly for 2-3 weeks lost organized guilds because they cant have fun. When it comes to wvw and server your guild survival is at first place. So yeah we are rebuilding but,claiming we are rebuilding because of our mistakes is stupid. What killed the old sfr is Anet.. SFR is and is still the best wvw server we just lack some of our guilds. But the russian army is still hear and rebuilding process is going smoothly. And we know our comrades at least some of them will come back. Our queues are getting normal as the server jumpers are starting to leave.
You should understand we did not break,we only bend and we will be even stronger once we finish our rebuilding…

Troma you on Vz cant fight outside blob. And we still not blob as I said in my previous post when painted your bl blue, we had 2-3 different groups. honestly I can kill any vz guild on bl with 30-40 people even if you are a whole zone. Only guild in t1 which own pugs and is not on sfr bl is Votf. I have to give credit to them they teach the randoms hard lessons but it is good for us anyway.

Just To make it clear last night we had 2-3 groups working constantly on Vz bl. 2 small guild raids securing our space ect. And one major force pushing for objectives.
As for Iron you go on our t3 tower when your hills and vz towers on north are t1? really the point is? And you come in garrison and we 3 servers lag out to hell. Very funny. And have 30? really maybe 30 iron and like 30 pugs.. Honestly you can use excuses like this before now when we can see all it just dont work. And yeah we on SFR are having fun rebuilding the community we dont care for score. We know we cant win in our current state but honestly we are still good enough for t2-t3 easily. But the math of the rankings will not allow us to drop any time soon.
And just to note our people on the other tiers get bored too they get blobed there even in t5 -t6. Seems only way to kill skilled players is to blob…

Man the fun today I hope no much cry from VZ you lost all your t3 keeps towers on home map The defence on bay was furious. But honestly blobing the hell of craigtop while we attack your garrison with Golems ? really your paid scouts failed so bad? At on point we were holding 3 keeps and 4 of the towers on the map but then Iron decided to blob It was fun leading the new guys teaching them how we fight which skills armor ect. We got hit pretty bad few times but we hit some too.
But honestly double teaming us again at 11 cet pm. I thought deso dont do this… now.. and play for fun not the points …. was hilarious and yeah the skill lag in garrison was epicly bad

Darkened.4076:

Thank you to SFR and VS for all the lootbags in EB today, was great fun commanding on that map for 14 hours. Some great fights all round!

Also a massive thank you to everyone that was following, we had a great night

// Beatrix Windrunner

You real mate? I ws comanding the sfr Eb force until 21:30 cet… lootbags from us? Wake up. I dont want to be rude but was defending sm once we flipped it from you and Vz never lost it even if it was broken like swiss cheese,so many wipes and fights.. but you never wiped us. If it happened after I left I cant speak for it. I just wanted to comment. As I made similar post to yours earlier in the topic as you can check.

The most insane day in my gw 2 history. Map hopping all day defendind desolation bl hills and other objects. The vz blob on all maps was insane. Guys you have fun all on all place and with the skill lag?! and in the afternoon flipping the t3 sm ! and holding it 3 hours before i need to go to work. Leader of the proud sfr army here man I had a blast 400 badges hungreds of kills I have to give it to iron and ne nameless vz blob you kept comming. ! as for WL you guys should rename on war clowns really taking bay on vz bl while you blob us fun game and defending our spawn tower with blob and we still took Have fun tommorow is new day !

nly Queue on FA is reset night (1-3 hours), other than that we have very low (5-10 minutes) or no Q rest of the week. As far as the skill lag it comes and goes, same with the zerging, we are usually able to avoid it by map switching.

KN and TC , (TC especially) run mega zergs. We are countering with a zerg and havoc teams, looking at doing 20 man splits to counter them by being much more mobile and forcing them into smaller groups of 30-40 where we can wipe them with our better skills and force them to choose objectives to defend.

It is 1 week old? so your point I see piken this explains some things. And while we have russians on our servers doing the capping and protecting we are fine. I suppose you didnt have this on your server.

why would eu come to usa servers which are high or very high populated and cost 1800 gems to transfer?
When half of our servers in eu and 2 of the servers in t1 nad t2 are medium and only 400 gems? to transfer?
I dont get your point sorry but as I see situation you are too stacked on the usa servers for any transfers from eu not to mention the lag you may have depending on where you play from and what your net is. I was on usa servers before I still have my friends there but I dont feel like droping 50 euros just to transfer to a high population server and play mostly alone again because of my time.
And as for the lag and ect you cant promise this, the meta in wvw is as bad in eu. I can mention several servers blobing like hell,and TC is one of them so? and yeah my friends are on FA

Oh my god I dont want to troll but…
CPC comander calling for cover? You guys are always undercover either in your keeps or behind the zerg lag you bring every day:D
You need more cover wtf? maybe wanna call Anet for help too build you own wvw so you can walk peacefully arround and not seeing bad red guys killing you left and right ?

I thought Desolation is only Iron oh my god, what is happening !

Yeah sorry VZ but I lose respect to you guys every kittening day. Last night that mesmer comander really going every time for portal bomb was hilarious….
About iron you called fighting 70+ vs 20-30 sin fun? I just come to help our guys… and it was not blob I had 30 on ts with me… so? your point.
And yeah gj taking t2 bay after the vz bl went down. The skill lag was insane and you brought 2 full map zergs on same place gg. At this time sfr was outmanned though ..
I am sorry my comrades from Vcy Riot leave. I learn the game with them and how to lead. But I know we will play together again sooner or later. If t1 keeps going this way I will probably follow them,but I like the challenge to rebuild sfr too. And yeah we are still t1 server and in the near future.

No love for me from Riot this make me sad. No more drinking fun then and uss SFR

that eb fun today omg It seems I kitten Vz a lot taking their t3 sm with only siege no golems and brute force were so epic. Nice mesmer steal on sm though. Was so much fun taking back all our part and fliping sm. Props to my guys on Sfr and the desolation atacking other side. And Vz why you run from me now it is not fair. I am not Wemil. I am only cmd Aliendreamer:D

Fun yesterday and today morning in Eb guys I know we slack this week? but Deso slacking too? Also that attack on t3 hills in deso bl.. Really golems Vz? and whole zone blob and still failed man I like this free week 5k kills in 2 days. and the footage of Deso and Vz runing out of my party is insane. Also tumbs up for the boat stand tonight was hilarious. It was only pitty that after Vz got farmed a bit they stopped coming the moment we put cominal boosters banners and the mf food and gear such a waste

You guys are jsut talking stupid things. Having a comander icon no matter how you got it with gold,or badges ect is nothing. In wvw people follow the people who lead. I can give you example If I go on map and put my icon on 90% of the map will come on my icon and at least half and more of them on Ts channel. They do it because I lead for months they know me,they know I am good at what I do and they have fun with me.I can lead guild raids without icon no problem. There is potions to make me visible there is the ts3 mumble ventrilo, ect voice comms.
What we need is better tools for commanders as someone said above squads ability to draw to whole squad ping location such things. Because being on Eu server we use different languages and some guys dont understand english well.
Yes basic commands are easy but when I go for more complex tactic it is a little pain to pull it. I suppose in all german,french servers they dont have this problem but on the multi-language servers this existing problem not a big one but still a problem.

Darkman.1257:

I’m reading this and reading and reading and all I can say to you all. Seafarer’s Rest’s community is greater than any other. We will prevail, we will overcome any obstacles. Reading most of the whining comments is sad. We will fight for our server and our community till the end. I’m glad to see we’ve inspired Vizunah enough to unite your community again. Stop saying Desolation is “teaming up” with Vizunah. Desolation has always been “survivors” their server can’t do anything alone so they use opportunities to backstab. They always focus the server that is currently at a disadvantage. Oportunists.

You think SFR will fall ? next Blacktide ? Stop kidding yourselves.

We will unite, we will find solutions, we will overcome the situation, we will come back to the battlefield every day, every hour, every minute. We will fight you to the end and nothing is going to change that. Nothing both of your servers can do to break us. You can team up or “use opportunities” as much as you want.

We do not make pacts.
In the end. We will win because we’re SFR

Hail SFR Alliance and it’s great community !

See you on the battlefield.

rebelnomad.4502:

Today, Deso and Viz teamed the whole day on EB againts SFR. took Klovan, Deso took WC, viz took golanta, deso took rogue, viz took jerrifer, deso attempted a few times to take aldon and failed. It has been for hours, deso is trying to take sfr keep, while viz is either on the sfr spawn area hunting for sfr or sandwiching sfr with deso. Even some serious occasions viz and deso managed not to kill eachother.

Nevermind that both deso and viz have huge blobs and bunch of sfr, still failing to take the sfr keep.

This remainded me of how did viz and elona teamed up against deso…

Lets not talk about how sneaky, how low this 2v1 against sfr, but lets talk about how prideful, honorable, one of a kind, saint deso is.

Just saying I was leading the defensive force on sfr that eventualy secured our area and even tooks stormist it was fun. Btw iron new tactics hiding in towers? or what and runing when I come? VZ blob we know you can only fight when all on one place. It was fun 6 hours I even moved my guild event on eb. It cost me 30 mins yelling to get pugs on ts and then we were moving left right killing deso then vz then deso again and vz. Also my first ever underwater fight at sfr keep in eb water gate:DD was epic fun . Got my people wiped once. At the end lag in Sm was unbearable how can we fight with no skills. But was fun good fights even if constantly double teamed:D
250 badges 1200 kills

Can we get any info about maybe increasing the map cap as arena net allowed transfers to medium servers and queues horrible…?!!!! in t1 now.

What just happened in VZ garri was really pathetic.
30 mins farming you sad people, +400 kills and you keep using that lame banner ress on lord.
It kinda ruined the good fights we had all evening.
Keeping the VZ spirit up and running!
OSC and co were using the same thing on SFR Garrison…

Wow you crying?!! backstabbing us whole night pushing always the same time when vz pushed.. or what? you took hills while vz was pushing Bay with their zerg….. gg
Then stormed garrison with golems? while we were in bay,instead of targeting t1 bay you go for t3 garrison and then cry? It was epic hold and we stopped it.
I have to give it to votf do epic amount of necros… This is your new setup a lot of necros eles with some guardians and mesmers?
I was fun we won few and lost few,once osc came at least we had the numbers to fight even vs both zergs on our map….

So Vz pr mashine broken?
Last stand?broken it is only thursday guys you know?or wednesday was your best shot even retake briefly the lead…
Or no wait you are gonna make super push in friday morning? really you hope it works?
So you lose again it must hurt your feelings I suppose I waiting for Troma explanation and why The last stand failed

So keep the trolling on guys! You only inspire us. We dont have problem with desolation just some of their tactical desicions are without logic or questionable… As for the lag and culling yeah with Vz and Deso/iron in particulary zerging it makes it hard to have fun.
And yeah nice effort on sfr garrison ! today VZ so your morning zerg got tired or what.
Or saving some strenght for morning push in friday? You will not lose 3th week in a row right You are the most comical server in eu at least

I like it Iron unhappy Vz calling them our dogs.. started to focus us GG But why attacking t2 hills when we are in inner t3 garrison on vz bl? And really we blobing…
Last night we had 3 guilds on vz bl. Riot Ext BG,we liked to had fun moving different directions gettign objectives but yeah… Iron come with 40+ Vz in 1 big blob wl + ect probably 60+
and we need to group too,you cant fight this numbers in the current culling situation without masive force….
And what happened was skil lag culling even worse and infact the once who had better culling won the fights…. Pretty boring…..
And for all the drama we are here to stay and we lead….
But yeah now vz have a tactic that works for them,get the morning free cap ugprade to t3 then blob all day and just cause culling skill lag and keep our points as low as possible…Funny it won’t work but I have to give it to you guys you come up with something this time….

really you speak for blobing? when you move in 2 groups in 30+ on your own map? and use the culling to your advantage? ok seems you still can show spirit
Try to show it on battlefield not to run when we are even numbers wow..
Really posts like this one above me kitten me off.
And wtf you guys rooted to towers or what you pay those guys to stay all the time in towers and pushing the 2 skill on trebs or what… trebbed greenlake tower on your bl like all they yesterday and never managed to take it:DD: gj
And 1 hint even if you take it we can start the outbreak:D

Well I can question Desolation tactics too,why in the hell you will attack t3 tower next to our spawn when we attack bay or garrison which are t3 in vz bl. I mean if we are pushing garrison go take bay or your spawn tower.. What is the point to attack us? For the garrison ok, 2 days you come slow us and we cant capture it because vz zerg return and lag grows and yeah.. But honestly when we are flipping t3 keeps tower why you push on our side? You did nothing hold the tower for like 15 mins and what?

I supppose GH wanted fun but yeah.. still last 2 days your actions made me wonder.

ah the star fighter hills 2.0:D and talking for siege god… so many siege on this Dawn Erie tower…..
And really Vz talking for blobs.. we fought all day outmanned on your bl…. And at one point you had 2 blobs one seems mostly randoms and one from WL:D:
also GH nice fun on Greenlake tower but I didn’t saw the point in i t…
The fights for bay and garrison were insane but lag made them unplayble….

seems your last stand started in a mess? Already 3th even with your famous morning cap? Or it is just how you make last stand!?
the picture is from 8 am my time so it should be +1gmt 15 min ago

just saying. And yeah new fun week ahead.

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And if there really is an alliance Deso ??/ SFR as you think, then it is these two servers that hold the knife by the handle. Limit they could go much further in a little idea of what you’re implying in the event that the PH rose in D1. So there I still very nice.

There’s a clear alliance (like 10min ago on map red: the tower is opened Deso ??20, we wipe Deso, SFR comes back to 50 and we wipe and leaves without taking the tour) but they are at their maximum. They are known for having defeated and redéfaits many times these people. A two against one they come to us from being first, but they will be nothing more. It is a matter of time before Deso ??returns behind D2 and SFR. Following I understand, they are desperate and they know that they 1v1v1 have no chance, they try otherwise normal. This is a good war.
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Thesith
Alpha & Omega

In any case if there was a need to have evidence that bone in sfr and get along just look at what is happening on our map today. Sfr and bone in passing one to the other side without hitting. Super mentality actually. Finally I note that it has perverted sfr bone in, because until then I had not seen bone in doing this kind of thing (except occasionally as it can happen) And there was still the beautiful bastondans lined at least c "is nice. however painful to see the agreement, they hide even more when I see a bus that passes sfr two gus of bone in without typing yet right in their way short …. no comment … technically there if the alliance continues (although I think this kind of agreement to not take long) time, it is untenable 2vs1. Enough they broadly share each map, with coordination and helped immune 5min. remains only pray the gods. Otherwise must send “saboteurs” of sfr and bone in voluntarily to kitten the kitten in their agreement.

link: http://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?t=1214083&page=7

have some fun! I rarely speak lies.. But you french guys really make me wanna push Vs to t2-t3 you are so bad, you cant even troll like normal people!
So you use to pump your pride thinking we fight you 2v1 ok:D have fun the upcoming weeks. The big bad boys are here to stay kids.

So much drama… Btw VS is it not true you send guys to other servers to spy and try to make inner dramas on the servers.. ect
I have to admit one of our guildmates took a look on your forums,you see he knows french was quiet amusing to see your panic.At least when you do such bulkitten try to use a secret forums or some restricted part of them:D

Kingface.9781:

pcpsong.3850:

Troma.3250:

I don’t know if you guy realize what we have to face with our diminushed forces, you have now a server mixed with a lot of good guilds with a lot of migrations. Please, have at least the respect to not taunt us after all the work you did to rebuild and come back. I don’t remember of any taunt of us when SFR got down on ladder too

Err we didn’t slip down to T2 we chose to go down by frigging the scores. It’s well documented all over this forum. Hell we were busting down doors and letting the other team in to ensure we went down because frankly we were so tired of the lame…can’t even use the word tactics….antics of VS in general.

If hiding behind walls, arrow carts and fighting doors is your definition of winning it’s no wonder you’re starting to fall apart at the seams.

We’ve not rebuilt our server, in the main we’re still the same server we’ve always been, the core has been there since day 1. A couple of other guilds decided to join us, nothing more nothing less. If they leave us then so be it but don’t forget whilst we were in T1 the first time, without these extra guilds, we still managed to win several weeks.

Anyway keep up the rhetoric it’s truly entertaining, you’ll find T2 is a good place to be.

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- If the hoppers leave you and they will, you’ll start to fall down again like when PrX left. Saying you made it to T2 for score it’s just an excuse because you couldn’t stand the pressure of T1 anymore to be competitive. Because some guilds came by your side only to get VS down to T2, and not for your community.

- If you manage to bring VS down to T2, you won’t be able to say that you achieved it by your own because you are not capable of this alone. If you’d pride of that and brag about, great sake but myself I wouldn’t be.
Like I said some posts ago, the only thing people’d remember it’s VS had been vanquished, if so, by the 2 bigger WvW servers of the moment, allied by the same goal. “What were their names already? Oh yeah, Seafarer’s Rest and Desolation I think, or something like that.”

Even if they leave we will still be competative and wining prime time in t1 only the night will be problem again. And yeah just to make it clear for you
We have only 3 new guilds RG SIN ECL so yeah we are bandwagon server now: And the new guys love it here. You know why?
We fight and we cooperate I suppose they will answer you later today. I had my fun on the forums today.
And this VZ cry it makes it even more entertaining.Once you met siege like yours in Deso hills yesterday you cried out on the forums 2 guys counter sieged you all night.
They claim killing 12 trebs yours and desolations not sure for the exact numbers!
So you losing and siege wars now? what you have left? only forum wars?