Guild Wars 2

Harbinger.8637:

Bumping since the patch comes out on Tuesday. You guys said it was already fixed, so is it going to be with this patch? Or do we have to wait until LS is over?

I doubt it will be online tomorrow at this point, it looks like this would be a quick fix to implement but they’re taking forever to solve this

Mian.1945:

Humbolio.2174:

It’s not that warrior needs a nerf, it’s a brilliant class.

The problem is more that most of the other classes need a buff and more viable build options. Warrior has a lot of viable builds, most other classes have barely any

This is NOT why people are annoyed at Warriors. If Warriors had tanky builds with low DPS or DPS builds with no tank or speed builds with no DPS or HP then no one would care, they’d have tradeoffs and weakness like other classes.

Currently warriors don’t have tradeoffs. They just get to play everything in the one build.

That’s wrong.
If you have a tanky build i can assure you a warrior cannot get anywhere near the dps of other classes.

(having 20-22k HP is not considered tanky for a warrior)

Kicast.1459:

Ohh… and I forgot this one: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Ire
But I am sure you will tell us that it is no damage mitigation as it is for conditions

Damage mitigaion is by definition when you reduce the damage you take from attacks (with you armor, blocks, blinds ecc), so no, cleansing ire is not damage mitigation the same way purging flames it’s not damage mitigation (to be clear: they are condition removal). Also the warrior can’t deny damage the same way mesmers and thieves can with stealth and clones.
If you put warrior HP in line with those of the guardian the class will hit rock bottom at the speed of light.

Kicast.1459:

Heimdallr.7021:

warrior needs high HP because HP and armor are the only thing this class has to mitigate damage

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Berserker_Stance
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Endure_Pain
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defiant_Stance
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_Stance

you are welcome

berserker stance works only against conditions, defiant stance it’s not used by any warrior in is right mind (should it became popular i bet people like you will come here and ask for a nerf).
As for the other two, are you seriously comparing shield stance versus thhe high protection uptime a guardian can have?
Face the fact that warrior has high HP because they lack the damage mitigation other classes have.

Marsares.2053:

Cygnus.6903:

So warriors don’t have the best damage? Shocker.

No seriously, welcome to warrior. You will love it. And that’s from somebody who started with mesmer also. Warrior feels more… easymode.

Fixed.

Trolling much?

MidoriMarch.8067:

full berserk set with 20k+hp? and high toughness lol seriously? none of classess except warriors can have 20k+hp and high toughness using berserker set

warrior needs high HP because HP and armor are the only thing this class has to mitigate damage: do you see warrior with protectioni, blinds, aegis, stealth, clones?
Also with berserker set you don’t have that high toughtness unless you use runes or go full in the defense tree.

MidoriMarch.8067:

NOW tell me if there’s any other class having 20k+ hp 3k+ armor with extremely high power/attack maintaining high mobility/stuns etc?

warriors need high HP because it’s the only way to survive burst damage, your comparison with guardians it’s just silly:
i play guardian and though i have 21k HP (which is low for a warrior but high for a guardian), i have aegis, blinds, blocks, virtues, high protection uptime, retaliation, give all of this stuff to a warrior and you can lower their HP.

phaeris.7604:

Why would you spec for high healing power? You get amazing healing with signet+adrenal, best heal in the game. Uninterruptible healing.

Newsflash!, Every class who specs for high healing power has to give up a damage or defence stat.

Also every class who specs for dps has to give up a defence stat.

Except the warrior!

nope, also warrior.

phaeris.7604:

Regarding conditions, you have the best condition removal ability in the game, 3 conditions every 7 seconds whilst doing damage. No one has anything close to that. If you think conditions are an issue to a warrior just think how they are to absolutely everyone else in the game.

You just throw in 30 defence, 30 discipline 10 anywhere else and you’ve covered all the bases. No need to invest in the power or precision lines! Swap in any weapons, it’s all the same!

First off if you spec like that you definetely have to invest points in power and precision because none of that trait line give you those.
Second you can’t use cleansing ire every 7 seconds unless you go full discipline, also don’t forget you have to land your burst skill and one of the reasons many use the longbow it’s because of combustive shot, have fun trying to remove your conditions using kill shot.

phaeris.7604:

But really the damage from killshot is just part of the picture. As mentioned the picture being you can have great stats on a warrior and great survivability, access to great melee and great ranged with no trade off?

Great survivability? The build you linked it’s nothing close to great survivability, good luck getting eating by conditions with no way to take them off.
If with my warrior i spec for high armor, vitality, healing power i can assure you i have to give up a lot of crit. chance and crit. damage.

phaeris.7604:

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what a pile of crap.
Have you considered the differences in the core mechanics of these classes?
Like stealth for example.

whyme.3281:

Warrior has alot of gap closers, cripples and anti CC imunity skills. So why does he on top of all that all those condi removes (btw. the best ingame)?

Because before he got all this condition removal warrior was laughable at best.

phaeris.7604:

Warriors can spec full berzerk, still have 22khps and 3k armour and lose nothing. This is the problem.

stop this bullkitten, you can’t go full berserk and have 22k HP (hps stand for healing per second by the way), let alone 3k armour.

Bombsaway.7198:

I Agree with Demandsynz the fundamental problem is warriors have things that a warrior should not have. They should not be great at range. They should not have heavy armor and be very mobile. (They should be the slowest to get into combat really but then hit hard and be able to take damage).

There is a reason in terms of game balance why other games split abilities that you find on a warrior. No other game would put so many toys on one toon. Why would GW2 be designed to be an exception?

Warrior shouldn’t have heavy armor? now i’ve heard them all.
You people are talking like warrior can do everything of that at the same time, the infamous hambow build everyone complain about doesn’t have mobility at all for example.

Jhughes.8341:

woah woah, like I said I don’t play warrior, this dude was bragging about warrior stats in TA with me earlier so thats why I posted it here trying to see how these stats were possible. I’ve no idea how much % the banner does or which banner it is for that matter.

and this “dude” sent you a screenshot with utilities painted (forgetting to hide the buffs just above them)?

Anyway if you spec for it you can easily achieve such crit damage, the point is that the build is worthless.
What is your point? Warrior OP, again?

i like norn

Necros are possibly the worst matchup for a guardian (i also try to avoid mesmers), 1vs1 you will probably end up dead unless you take every condition removal available but yoou would miss the other utilities in pretty much every other fight.
I usually try to keep myself alive while help is coming.

Anthony.7219:

Warriors get 100% swiftness too? Ugh…

Yes, if they use warhorn.

Eye Two.1538:

OP warrior besauce elite cd 45-60sec,swap 3-4sec, f1-10sec and signet. Need add low damager

You can’t swap in 3 sec.
Anyway all these things were there since the release and nobody called warriors OP, they were quite weak indeed, so what is your point?

I play both guardian and warrior, honestly it’s very hard to say which one is more fun.
Warrior surely is in a better position right now but i like my guardian a lot in spvp, i think it can be more tanky than a warrior, even with the high regen it’s hard to survive a burst damage from a couple of players while with the guardian i usually have bettere chances.
I also feel like warrior at the moment have access to a wider variety of builds.
They both bring a lot to a party with shouts, banners, virtues.

lvis.3824:

To all Warrios’s in here who actually think they are “balanced” – please for the sake of god play a D/D elementalist.

A profession that cannot switch to a different weaponset , this is pure melee.
And then, fight agains any class in the game – then come back and tell us again that you are “balanced” .

Ele cannot switch to a different weaponset because it has already four different elements to play with (also this argument is valid against any other class, not only warrior).
Also it’s not pure melee, most of his attacks have 400 or even 600 range which are not strictly melee, check out the range of some other melee classes for comparison (melee attacks have 130 range).

i have a set with traveler’s rune and another one with runes of speed, i can’t stand walking at normal speed even in sPVP.

Bombsaway.7198:

The problem with the warrior is that they are picking from the best inventory of best skills. That is a balance problem.

lol

once you get there what you have to do?

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

You are over representing the hammer community. This is one thing I see constantly in warrior threads, that the assumption of hammer is always being used. To deny the advantages of swiftness and speed on near demand cannot be overlooked. You can’t damage what you can’t hit. You state that to achieve this one has to use sword/greatsword like this is some sort of disadvantage. Sword/shield-greatsword with practice can be as lethal as anything else if you dedicate the time to learn how to get the most from them. You also overly value CC. Nobody got downed from CC. Stuns do not down players, only the damage they take while they’re stunned downs players. This underlines what is a simple concept to understand. Damage downs players. You can use 150 stuns for all you like, but if you’re only hitting for meager amounts each time it doesn’t really mean anything. Badly played PU mesmers reinforce this notion. You can stealth, blind, blink, prot protection, mirror image and everything you want, but your doing no damage. You can attempt to discredit the value of speed, that is up to you. You can discredit gravity if you like, but if you jump off a cliff you are going to fall. Speed has it benefits and can be used to augment play style to the point that it is a winning factor.

I’m not over representing anything, it’s a fact that if you spec for speed and mobility you have to give up all the fancy stun, CC, range weapons that people claim to make warrior overpowered.
It’s a matter of choice, honestly i would never run in pvp a build like that.

Chuck Zitto.2367:

You guys are crazy if you don’t think warriors are still far and above the best all around class. I main a warrior and if I play my other classes a few days and come back to my warrior I feel like a put on a god mode cheat.

Maybe you should learn to master your other classes, i play also guardian and mesmer and i have fun with both of them, i don’t feel any different or overpowered with my warrior.

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

Let’s not mention movement either. Set a race from coral on arah P1 and out of all the professions see who gets to the crystal champs first over and over again..to make it fun, leave all the mobs there and we’ll consider them obstacles. In the tpvp format this makes warrior ideally suited to pushing their home. If it does well they can neutralise and maybe even capture..if it doesn’t, they can high tail it out of there and not give away the 5 points.

This is GW2 or Formula 1?
Warrior is not the only class having access to swiftness and to be really that “fast” you have to bring GS and Sword with you which leave you without hammer of course and its very good CC.

Carpboy.7145:

Id like something like rangers Troll Unguent. Something like a 200 passive heal, but then activate it for a 600-700 passive heal, with a decent modifier.

I like the idea, when i played bunker ranger (which despite everything, it was fun) i used troll unguent and it was quite a good heal.
Problem is signets have a passive and an active effect, HS should have some kind of passive on top of the active heal.

unfortunately i’m forced to play skyhammer in tournament, i don’t like the jumping points, breakable glasses and on top of that the cannon is way too much powerful.
The map favours too much classes with knockbacks or fears

I hope this fix gets in today’s patch.

Honestly it doesn’t happen to me that often, i would say 15% of my matches i end up playing in 4.
Despite of that, i think that should be punished in some way, maybe forbid to enter the queue for 30 mins or so?

i can only advise to use warhorn to keep up perma swiftness with signet of rage, other than that, i’ve done it with a quite defensive gear (knight + cleric) and it wasn’t anything hard.
I think it’s more important to move quickly through the map.

Mightymealworm.8409:

Yo bro, all the classes except ele have had a nerf or 2 announced already. Some of them much larger than 8% HS passive reduction (with a buff to active!). We don’t have all the proposed changes yet either. Some shaving all around is probably to be expected due to the upcoming sigil changes anyway. Lose the tunnel vision already.

I doubt they will buff the active enough to force players to use it.

Kargath.6598:

all i have to say to people that complain about warriors being overpowered is : PLAY ONE! AND NOT JUST IN COF P1 & LOL COE! Do some spvp and wvw see how fast you get burst by other classes

Problem is people play 3-4 matches with warrior claiming to destroy everything like a boss.

why it’s useless? it should provide quite a bit of health regen…

I hate the map so much, I always play though, the one thing i hate more is when my team has a leaver or someone AFK.

yeah i didn’t update runes (i was trying a shout heal build), i will probably run Lyssa but it’s not final.
How much armor should I have? 3200?
About the mobility you are right, i was considering swapping a banner for Balanced Stance.
Thanks

Hi all,
i’d like to test a new build for my second warrior, i didn’t play it a lot recently so i will have to buy some equip, that is why i’m asking here first
The idea is to provide support to party through warhorn and banners while possibly being able to dish out some damage.
This is not optimal for sure but i’d like to know which changes would you make (if it’s viable) or why do you think it’s a complete mess.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNBiODbk0JFO7RACHOggeohVhAqKMHpHhBbsGA-jUyAoNBZSEMRIQpvpxmADSltIasqHMlKRUtPpIa1CBwaBA-w

Thanks

PS: i like banners

play with only one finger.

Kravick.4906:

Not sure if this counts as proof, but sure. I can try.

I haven’t sPvPed in months. Look at the solo queue stats, especially. I decided to dust off my warrior and kitten around on it. Those 4 solo queue wins were all on my warrior. The one loss, we lost by 2 points, and that was because the other team sniped Svanir for the win. Standard Hammer / Mace/Shield combo. I just go in and wreck people without any prior experience with the build. Its really easy to succeed with a warrior as long as you don’t try to stand there and HB people.

Assuming those 5 games were played with the warrior, winning them doesn’t mean the class is unbalanced.

connieboy.9840:

Except you never see this argument from other classes. I started a warrior the other day. First time warrior, did the PVE intro and nothing else, immediately went to the mists, copy and pasted first build I saw online, and was top scoring player in my TPVP match and won. Hmmm

Next time take some time to make a video of your kills and provide a link to this build you found online, without proofs your claims are bullkitten.

i’m interested as well.

Kravick.4906:

Heimdallr.7021:

It would be nice to backup claims like with my warrior after “5 hours max i wreck faces with it”.
I could say i wreck faces after half an hour with my elementalist in pvp.

I did the same thing with my warrior. I picked a random hammer mace/shield build and just completely wrecked people without much practice. After about 3 hours of actually playing the build, I felt like I was unstoppable and could take on anything, and winning 1v2 fights easily enough. I still struggle with uneven fights on my necromancer, most of which I don’t win, and I have over 3000 hours logged on that class.

This is what you say without any proof, with my guardian i often face warriors winning the fight (sometime i lose of course), do i find only noob warriors or maybe reality is different from how you picture it? If the class is so OP and easy to play any noob should destroy me (or everyone else) pretty much every time.

It would be nice to backup claims like with my warrior after “5 hours max i wreck faces with it”.
I could say i wreck faces after half an hour with my elementalist in pvp.

I don’s see the point in threads like this, sure warrior is easier than other classes but it’s not an easy class to master or for lazy people.
I mostly play guardian these times but when i enter a pvp game with my warrior i use dodge / weapon swap / utilities as much as my other classes, if you don’t the problem is not the warrior class.

I only do spvp and wvw, greatsword would be nice for having some mobility.
What i’m using now is a build focused on shouts and symbols (larger symbols ecc).
I do not expect do deal a lot of damage either way

hi all,
i’m running a 0 / 0 / 20 / 30 / 20 shout build and at the moment i’m using mace/focus as my main set, my other weapon of choice is hammer but, though i like it, sometime i find it too slow or sluggish, do you think greatsword could be a good replacement?
I like in particular leap of faith and symbol of wrath, what do you think?

thanks

Hi all,
does anyone know when glory points will be eliminated from game?
I would like to know how much time i have to farm set for my characters.

Thanks

i really liked the video, thanks for sharing.

one more question, do the regen of the banners stack? I mean, planting 2 or 3 banners i get regen bonus from each one?

thanks

When i play guardian i usually have problems with condition warriors with my build.
Other than that fight 1vs1 with warrior are pretty long so usually backups arrives before we can end the fight.