Guild Wars 2

Which is better?

Condition dmg/condition duration
Vitality/toughness

Should I mixed and match them, or should I stick with a combination for a greater output of dmg/duration?

In case you’re wondering, I trying to make me a set of dungeon gear, so essentially I would like to survive but also still be able to hit hard. I use dual pistols with shortbow. I’m not great with builds but what I use is effective for me.

Calae.1738:

There’s another exploit in the Dredge Fractal.

It’s in the room where the miniboss is standing next to the vehicle. You’re entire team can stand on top one of the wheels of the vehicle and kill the boss and all the adds that spawn without anyone taking a single point of damage.

I’ve tried this out before and I still got hit here and there

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Chris.7653:

Andovar Edoras.2143:

Now that i think of it, youre All level 80 with endlessly deep pockets, arent ya..(at least the level part).

For once, would be nice to hear opinions from people with lower levels since the higher a person’s level gets, the more selfish and rude they usually get with their ’’greatness’’

Don’t you think YOU are the one being selfish here?

Because people don’t want to play with a level 65 who apparently has a bit of a temper, de-equips his gear mid instance and doesn’t understand the difference between train and utility skill, does not mean they are selfish.

It doesn’t mean they have an attitude problem or think they a great. It just simply means they want to play with who/how they want.

Do you think it is selfish for you to expect them to carry you butt naked through an instance because you don’t have the HP/Traits/Experience they do? Don’t you think it is selfish to blame THEM and making them sound like monsters for not taking you?

Again I am just trying to open your eyes a little…

sigh im tired of this arguing.
I’m not selfish, i didnt ask anyone to carry me, and its not for them to decide to kick me when its the 3rd fractal of the instance already and i decide to unequip, since everyone got killed by some trap things.

->‘’difference between train and utility skill’’ yes, i know the difference between a -train- and an utility skill, oh, but maybe you meant ‘’playing skill’’?..

I was actively doing the dungeon, and wasnt a burden to anyone, supporting them with what a mesmer can unload.

the moment you unequip your gear, you’re essentially making your party carrying extra loads just for you. That’s not fair. You have to get through the mobs to get to the boss; it’s a process. Just because you re-equip when boss comes does not make it ok to take off your gear mid dungeon run. I have no problem with lower level peeps in my party, but I would’ve had a problem with them taking off their gear.

Hearte.6852:

Robert added it to the official list of known bugs/exploits above, regardless of you people who lack the critical thinking to realize that it was obviously not intended. So clearly it was not intended. Big surprise. Do you honestly think that you’re supposed to down the boss solo, then go mop up the trash back at the spawn point? There’s plenty of space in the room to use whatever unique group tactics you like. Again, it’s an easy fight without cheesing.

so, let me understand this properly, the way you’re saying that’s “as intended” is to run into a room and fight the boss as is, because pulling is considered as an exploit? Or are you saying for that boss if you pull a group/mob from a bigger group is considered as an exploit, or you mean at any given time?

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Right now I’m mainly compiling a list of those things people are bringing up so I can appraise what people are saying in a concise area. This thread got a bit distracted (still waiting for a Mod to come in and clean up), so I basically just grabbed things I saw and put them on the list I felt needed to be quickly looked into.
To my relief a vast majority of things people are bringing up are things we have already recognized and have fixes in for.

Robert, does ANet had a standard definition for an exploit is, as in, what you guys consider as an exploit? Because I don’t think instances like pulling enemies is exploits and walking through wall is an exploit, but everybody thinks differently.

Also, I recall someone told me in the dredge area, after you open the door, you can stand on the wheel and the boss/mobs can’t get you. I don’t know if it only worked for some and not for me, because I still got hit when I tried it.

yeah, I recently got invited into the guild…and as of last night, with 183 members online, only about 5-8 were representing, to show that they’re LFG. I wasn’t sure if they weren’t aware that if they weren’t representing or doing the looking for group in contacts, no one is going to ask them…but it seemed much harder to find groups there than the lfg site that someone made.

Bruno Sardine.2907:

Starlink.6248:

5)Drop the ring 100% (i m at lv 19 and i die a lot bc i m 0/9 for ring and friends near me are with 3 rings -.-)

This… agony resistance, which is vital to progression, shouldn’t be RNG based. You should get the rings all the time from daily chests and let the RNG be in getting one with the desired stats. Follow that up with a mystic forge recipe being throw 4 rings into the forge to get one rerolled ring, an inscription, or a chance at a random infused ring.

but wouldn’t 100% makes it lose its value though? and I don’t mean monetary values, but just the overall value itself? I think the drop rate should be higher, since it makes me feel bad to get a ring at level 18 when I already have 2, and see others in my party who has yet to get on still have yet to get one at my level.

Ditton.3149:

Helenorz.2547:

I still feel that some of the stuff are not exploits, but a workaround. Some are definitely exploits (like walking through walls on dredge), but that last seal? that feels more like a workaround to me.

Id buy this…if he didnt have hitpoint dependent mechanics and phases. Its built up as a climax, an ultimate battle..whats ultimate about knocking him out and blasting it with aoes? Why are the cages there? why spawn more mobs if the hammer isnt needed? None of that makes sense to me.

yeah…I guess you’re right on that.

Hearte.6852:

Helenorz.2547:

Hearte.6852:

A couple other dredge exploits for the list:

Just prior to Rabsovich on the door destruction path. Someone in the group had a stack of Ash Legion Spy Kits, which they used to cheese the door, after we downed a Reverberant and they grabbed the cannon. 10 seconds of uninterrupted stealth at the door.

Also for Rabsovich, the group decided to pull him out of the room to fight him away from his adds, completely debasing the whole fight.

I don’t think pull him away to fight him is an exploit. That’s a workaround. It’s no different than pulling a small group at a time to fight them in any situation. It’s just more tactical, safer, and much smarter than just charge into a group.

That’s ridiculous. It’s an easy fight regardless. Why would the designers intend for you to make it a joke? It’s not about pulling him away from a group of mobs to be tactical; it’s about completely removing an element of the fight until the boss is dead. Clearly not intended, therefore exploit.

a joke? no, no one takes it as a “joke”, or make it for that matter. If you’re telling me the ANet intended us to not think outside the box/have our own play styles, and that it is even intended for range class/light armor class to simply charge in like they have nothing to lose, you’re clearly confused about what’s intended and what is not. That’s like saying Kiting and other methods of fightings mobs are a big no-no, and that everyone should just rush them. Workarounds and adopt to situations with the group you have (especially when you have no warriors/guardians in your party), that’s intended; walking through walls, that’s not intended.

Hearte.6852:

A couple other dredge exploits for the list:

Just prior to Rabsovich on the door destruction path. Someone in the group had a stack of Ash Legion Spy Kits, which they used to cheese the door, after we downed a Reverberant and they grabbed the cannon. 10 seconds of uninterrupted stealth at the door.

Also for Rabsovich, the group decided to pull him out of the room to fight him away from his adds, completely debasing the whole fight.

I don’t think pull him away to fight him is an exploit. That’s a workaround. It’s no different than pulling a small group at a time to fight them in any situation. It’s just more tactical, safer, and much smarter than just charge into a group.

I still feel that some of the stuff are not exploits, but a workaround. Some are definitely exploits (like walking through walls on dredge), but that last seal? that feels more like a workaround to me.

account bound sounds nice, but then I think you’ll see a surge of people doing nothing but the high levels, and none of the lower levers though. and no, we DON’T need a reset.

I got 5 essence and a glob, and I’m at level 19. I notice they only drop from mobs, well at least all mines are. So, if you’re just running past the mobs that you don’t have to kill, you’ll have less of a chance to get them.

Are anyone having this problem? I don’t use autorun, but lately I find myself (in mid battle) goes into autorun that I did not initiate. It’s usually in Fractals that I notice this issue.

I think the reason why they made it impossible for people to be able to join is to stop friends from kicking people in the group and then invite their guildies/friends in to get the chest. With that said, there should be a workaround where the dungeons recognizes the people that are in the instance, and thus preventing from other people coming in to get the chests and they don’t get credit for finishing the fractals/moving up the level. Npt the best solution, perhaps not easy either, but it’s a start. Otherwise, simply allowing party members to rejoin might have some issues that we’ve been seeing in other dungeons.

I think it’s fair to say we’ve all done the “exploits” and whatnot because members of our parties wanted to (how else would we learn these things, right?). I always respect the wishes of my party members; if they want to, sure, if not, ok. The thing is, especially with certain areas, the difficulty level has gotten a bit ridiculous (I’m at lvl 19). Unfortunately, the higher we go, (or doing odd numbers), the harder it is to find party members. Right now, I’m running with whoever that wants to run with me, which means I might end up in a group with 3 light armored guys and no tank. It’s worse if they haven’t been fortunate enough to get a ring. So yeah, at that point I wouldn’t mind a little shortcut, just to speed things up/in case someone dc (and that has happen to me, and I wasn’t lagging).

I know the exploits will get fixed, that’s fine, but I would MUCH RATHER ANet to get the DC issues first. I can take the normal as-intended-way no problem, but I do need all 5 members (myself included) to run it or else it’s stupid hard to the point it’s not worth my time.

I encountered this bug just now, and it gave me 2 errors before officially kicking me out of the game (well, I have to exit the program completely on my own). This was mid 3/3 Fractals lvl 19, and earlier in 1/3, someone from my party may have gotten the same error and was promptly disconnected.

Other posts here leads me to believe that there are many others encountering this error, and more frequently than they should be. This is my first time actually encountering an error message. What’s going on?

I just got this, and I was in the middle of Fractals. I ended up had to do a system restore.

William Fairfield.1428:

This is not a bug. This is a random drop from the daily rewards. The vials also have a chance to randomly drop from every creature in the zones.

So as Azelroth suggested.. Loot everything!

So, now I’m a little confused.

The rings are RNG drop, as a bonus reward for going from level 10 to level 11. So, if you didn’t get a ring drop the first time you get from lvl10 to lvl 11, does that mean the rings won’t drop for you any more from lvl11-19? I read that you get the infused version at lvl 20, but is it a one time bonus drop?

makes sense. didn’t think of that.

Aside from killing 50 WvW players and run 5 dungeons (I hope I got the numbers right), does anyone know what the other 2 requirements are?

yeah, I feel like the black lion chests drop rate have been increased, but the keys have not.

Incidentally, my friend got 3 keys today: 1 from story, 1 from chest, and 1 as a drop. Tsk.

well, no way for me to test it out now…

TheRabbit.9478:

No, this is wrong. I had the emote bar what seemed like nearly every single run I did (I think it was given to the dungeon starter more often than not) and I hardly ever got exotics, despite doing the dungeon 100+ times.

I did a 5 run straight once as dungeon starter/party leader, didn’t get emote prompt.

What I find interesting is with all of my runs, I never once got any yellow. No blues or yellow, just 95% green, 3% white/halloween related things, and 2% extoics.

well, that might be true, but I don’t think it’s always guaranteed? The first time I was in there, there were only two of us, and seriously none of us got the prompt, so I was really confused.

well, at least now I know how to get that exotics…for next year…because it’s too late now.

Caleb, i think nldixon is talking about MK’s dungeon. Well, at least that’s what I think.

Even if so, I’ve only gotten that MK says in there twice, and out of those times, I got 1 exotics.

i guess i should just do that instead, grabbed the recipe off TP :-/

oh I dont know, I didn’t check.

well, at the moment, it feels like say if I open 40 bags (from trading a stack of 250), the first 20 bags it would be mostly candy corns/barely any mats, but the last 20 it would even out and i’d get more mats and tonics. If i get more bags and open them, I would get more stuff, and then eventually I’ll come across some recipes.

I think I’m gonna get a bunch of bags and open them ALL AT ONCE and see what happens

I think i’ve only opened a like…300 ish, so that’s 10% of what you opened

Well, I’ll just keep trying. So far, luck hasn’t been on my side with drops and all.

Has anyone gotten the superior version of that rune through the personalized ToT bags? I opened some bags yesterday and I think at this point I have the major recipe for all the 3 craftsmanship and 1 major sigil of the night, but no superior in sight. I’m just curious if anyone’s gotten them, and what the drop rate is.

wait, I can’t make the recipe myself, whether it’s throwing them into the forge or at the crafting stations without actually find the recipe as a loot first?

See why I’m confused? I thought there are 2 ways to get the recipes: you find one as a drop; you make it at the crafting station/throw the right stuff into the forge.

or do you get the recipes from the forge, and then you can “discover” the item? or do you not discover it at all since you would know the recipe by then?

per title.

I’m still a bit confused by this. I know once you discover it, you can make it ay any time. What I want to know is, if I don’t discover, say, the superior run of the Mad King before the end of 31st, does that mean I lose my chance at discovering the recipe?

https://www.facebook.com/GuildWars2

per their post of an hour ago, “Act I of Shadow of the Mad King will be arriving later this evening.”

I’m in the US, Central Time. just want to clarify.

@Teknomancer
no need to be that harsh. He asked the questions and he got the answers. That’s that.

@Ozymandias

agreed~ no one should miss out on something simply because they play differently than other people, or have other obligations.

Darth Danny.4032:

I think you guys missunderstand what I’m saying.

What I want is for lvl 80 characters to have at LEAST one thing that only a lvl 80 can do.

Anet have said that there is NO new content in this new patch for just lvl 80’s

Even lower levels can raft the exotics to keep for later.

Give us something thats all. One thing that we get to do for getting our characters to lvl 80, thats not too much to ask I dont think.

I think that all events recipes ect should be open to all levels but give the lvl 80’s one thing to reward them for their effort.

Doesnt even have to be something good just a little cosmetic item for completing arah duuring halloween or something like that would have been nice.

Although I do see were a lot of you are coming from.

Don’t hate me lol, im not the mad king!

maybe it’s just me, but I honestly have no problem with it. After all, if our choice whether or not we want to get a character to level 80 in one go. Some people alternate between characters, they shouldn’t miss out because of play style.

I’m starting to think that the event will being with the daily resets.

if it’s 7pm central (where I am), that’s essentially when the daily resets, no?

that’s what I’m betting on anyways.

Darth Danny.4032:

Im a little annoyed that all these people who didnt get the game on release or were too lazy to level up are expecting to have all these items handed to them at level 1.

What is wrong with Anet rewarding high level players with content when they have worked hard and supported the game from the beginning.

Iv supported this game from the beginning, I bought the art of guild wars 2 book when it was released YEARS ago.

I prepurchased the game and have have 2 lvl 80 characters and a lvl 65.

I dont think its wrong for people like me to benifit from these events more than others because we have worked harder and prepared.

I dont think its wrong for me to want to be rewarded for my support and hard work over people who just bought the game a week ago and now want all this high end content for free.

I bought over 2000 gems for this event with gold that I earned through legitimate means. Let me benifit form that please.

Interesting, because you’re assuming other people with level 80 character(s) wouldn’t have a level 1 laying around somewhere. I think you’re a little bit entitled about all this; not everyone gets buy games on launch day for various reasons. It’s a great thing that you’re supporting the game on day 1, spend a great deal of time on it, and even bought gems, but I don’t think you should feel that you deserve special treatment over it. After all, nothing is going to be handed them on a silver platter; they still have to work for/towards it like the rest of us.