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Kagamiku.9731:

Impale.2503:

Kagamiku.9731:

It’s called being a collector, Impale.

Nothing should only be obtainable through near impossible odds using RNG-based mechanics.
I’m all for minis being aquired through skill and/or gold. But not this RNG based bullkitten.

And worse of all, it’s not even trade-able. Some people get it within the first few stacks and don’t even want it, while others have invested thousands of gold to obtain it and still fall short. It’s ridiculous.

And thanks to Maize Balms and the vendor staying all year round you will still be able to get it, it will just be done over time, like our own personal struggle with the Fractal Tonics in KING, for nearly a full year now.

So get your patient pants on, stop the QQ, farm the lab, get the maize balm recepie, stock on them and get the slow process going on, i can guarantee you will get it before i get my tonic, even as an Uber Casual.

So smile, Zomorros loves you

Yes, I think you being an uber casual is precisely why you can’t understand why there are so many (justified) QQ posts.

My 5,4k hours played, complete legendary collection, world first fractal 50, king tournament organizing, full 85 ar all classes, holy quinity with stat cap infusions, etc, etc, are so casual, i’m sorry.

I’m not as pro at dailies and minis like you

I hope i will be some day!

Megis.9264:

Yes, one maize balm a day will get us there, after opening tens of thousands of bags didn’t do it.

Still better than one 49/50 a day

Kagamiku.9731:

It’s called being a collector, Impale.

Nothing should only be obtainable through near impossible odds using RNG-based mechanics.
I’m all for minis being aquired through skill and/or gold. But not this RNG based bullkitten.

And worse of all, it’s not even trade-able. Some people get it within the first few stacks and don’t even want it, while others have invested thousands of gold to obtain it and still fall short. It’s ridiculous.

And thanks to Maize Balms and the vendor staying all year round you will still be able to get it, it will just be done over time, like our own personal struggle with the Fractal Tonics in KING, for nearly a full year now.

So get your patient pants on, stop the QQ, farm the lab, get the maize balm recepie, stock on them and get the slow process going on, i can guarantee you will get it before i get my tonic, even as an Uber Casual.

So smile, Zomorros loves you

I do find most of the reactions funny. This being a mini pet and not a useful resource coming from what is so far the most rewarding content to date.
Trick or Treat bags give an insane amount of rewards – luck, dragonite, fragments, dust, etc. – more than any other reward system so far.
There is ONE rare item you can get through this, probably implemented as a funny little reward, that happens to be a mini – cough, mini polar bear, cough – and instead of looking at it as a nice extra, some people are just not willing to accept that, and going for a “I want it now for a maximum of 2 hours of game play invested”.
Next time before you complain about that, think about the fractal tonic, which has close to the same drop rate, is time gated, comes from a much less rewarding and far more time consuming content.
If we are going to act in a very spoiled way each time something nice rare and cosmetic is added, let’s start by the beginning, shall we?

Malediktus.9250:

Yes, the droprate looks beyond silly. Based on that data it might be 1 in 1m chance to get it. Maybe Anet added 3 zeroes too much to the drop chance?

TBH, the way it felt is every 100kish bags a loot table would trigger with a chance of either one of the necklaces, batwing, gwynefrydd, gifts, or leg. luck. it only happened 10 times but it was fairly consistant.

So my guess would be that said loot table with these 7 items is a 1/100k chance, which isn’t that bad.

If that is the case, to fix it they could simply remove items off this loot table to the Zuzu/Endless Tonic/Exo Recepie one, which would give an overall higher chance of getting gwynefrydd or the necklaces, leaving the account bound items on it only.

TPenny.5071:

Guild leader opened 1.12 million bags and finally got it :P

Opened 1.12m bags, and got:

1 Gwynefrydd
1 Black Necklace
2 Green Necklaces
3 Endless Batwing Tonics
2 Gift of Spiders
71 Zuzus
13,5k Wrappers (approx)
3 Legendary Luck

so assuming the necklaces, bat tonics, legendary luck, gifts and Gwynefrydd are on the same loot table, it was probably just bad luck on my side.

But hey, finally got it

Lets hope we see this very soon…

#Cough #WithTodaysPatch #Cough #ABrotherCanDream

I want these changes, SO badly…..

SO….

Badly….

A fix for these terrible drop rates would be the use of the Pristine Relics which are currently useless.

Tonic for 250, weapon skin for 50, would make everyone happy and reward the grind with content specific skins/costmetics. Just food for thoughts Mr. Devs. #Hype

You could even allow a 100-250 pristine relic upgrade to your backpiece to change the color so you don’t have to make a new model. #Value

PS: A fix for the late lag spikes in fractals would be much appreciated, its getting really annoying.

Praise the gods of the RNG Tonic.

Maybe one day we’ll be able to spend a stack of pristine relics or two for it.

:(

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DonQuack.9025:

Just a tip. Popped in thread to watch yesterday. Didn’t see link of where to watch in op. Left.

That is because you didn’t check the brackets and point list

Every team had their direct stream linked on their name. All 12 of them. And it was mentioned throughout the tournament.

The bracket list was being linked every 10-15min on the stream.

Thanks everyone for showing up, the participants and the viewers!

And great job to everyone who participated, we had some amazing teams with insanely close runs!

Congratulations [DD] The Diplomats! Champions of the [KING] Fractal Tournament Summer 2014!

Afrer an amazing Round 2 and a very very close ending!

The finals are about to start opposing on one side [RtG] Rise to Glory and on the other hand [DD] The Diplomates!

Two really good teams, so it will be an amazing final round!

Tune in to see who will win the [KING] Fractal tournament!

Round one is now completed!

Round 2 is currently streaming www.twitch.tv/gw2king

Be sure to tune in for the semi-finals and the finals!

We are about to start the tournament Q/A and preparation!

Be sure to tune in at www.twitch.tv/gw2king

Only 4 Hours and 30 Minutes left until the tournament starts!

Attention to all teams, be sure to tune in at least 30 minutes before the tournament starts so we can let your streamers in our teamspeak for a real time information feed.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

Tentonhammr.7849:

Quick question, I’m guessing no member of the team can enter the Mistlock Observatory until the event starts right?

Correct, all team members will be inside the Mistlock Observatory, when the timer starts and only when the timer starts, they will be allowed to enter the portal and start rolling.

Keep in mind all team members must be within the same instance at all times – except for repairs if that is needed.

Other than that #Enjoy

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Server time?

14:00 Server Time – 15:00 GMT due to daylight savings

All the information is on the first post

Hello Everyone!

For those interested, the points spreadsheet will be announced tomorrow!

So stay on your toes and get ready to come up with your strategy!

Entries are now closed.

Thanks to everyone who signed up, the registration list is linked on the first post and is updated.

The tournament is still scheduled for the 26th, and the final point list will be published on the 24th as expected.

The point system has been updated for recent changes with the last update, and will keep being updated until the very last minute to ensure its balance and effectiveness to represent a team’s performance in this format.

We are, as always, still available in game to answer any of your questions/concerns regarding the tournament.

Impale.2503:

Dear Spoj,

Our point system takes under account time gating – directly and indirectly – for every possible fractal, thanks to our recorded footage and thousands of hours of gameplay in FotM.

We also compensate, not only for the time gating, but also for progression through all tiers and bosses to give players an incentive to go through with the chain rather than rerolling.

So chances are that the team that gets 3 “long/time gated” fractals and chooses not to reroll, even if they end up with Mai Trin, will do better by completing it rather than rerolling.

The real RnG here is how good can a team perform against a certain encounter.

:)

The only reason we aren’t giving out more information on the rules is to avoid people going math geeks on the points and “figuring out” rotations that would probably not work, be fairly boring to watch, and take the fun out of it.

It is our choice, and is one of the tournament conditions, but you know EXACTLY how the tournament is going to work, so for the fourth time:

- Every fractal is worth a certain amount of points.
- If you get a fractal as T2, or T3 you get an additional amount of points to encourage progression.
- Point allocation will be based on benchmark runs made by KING, at a rate being kept secret for the moment, taking in consideration overall length, time gating, and kill times.
- At the end of the 90 minutes each team will be allocated points for each completed fractal. So even if a team has completed more fractals – had a better rng – than another team they will not necessary come ontop in terms of points, and therefore rank lower.
- The first round will not have any maximum number of participants, only the Top 8 teams in term of points will advance to round 2.
- Etc.

I understand you want “clarity” in the form of a competitive edge in terms of preparation, but we do believe that maybe the essence of fractals, being RnG based in their rotation, is flawed in your opinion but it is part of what makes them what they are.
So does the notion of adaptability, when the rush from 30-50 happened after fractured, hence the element of “surprise” that lets you prepare for all fractals for 3 weeks and will leave you with 48 hours to come up with a game plan for the D-Day.

As far as the choice for F50 goes, yes it makes it less accessible, but if you happen to be serious about the competition getting 3 Ascended armor pieces – or 2 and 8/7/7 infusions – in 3 weeks, shouldn’t be a big deal.
I encourage you as well to check the recent changes in certain mechanics between 49 and 50.

And to end this, i would like to apologize because sadly enough these are our rule set for this tournament, and they are final.

I hope you will be kind enough to understand and read through the already answered questions and posted information before asking any further questions.

Feel free to contact me in-game if you want to discuss certain points, so we can keep this thread about what the tournament is, and not about what it won’t be

Fror.2163:

Impale.2503:

Fror.2163:

Impale.2503:

The Final Point spreadsheet for every fractal will be published 48 Hours before the tournament, and each registered team will be notified ingame.

Could you elaborate a bit on this, give a dummy example of a sheet?

Is it something like this:
First fractal – Swampland: 1 point
First fractal – Aquatic Ruins: 2 points
First fractal – Urban Battleground: 4 points
Second fractal – Urban Battleground: 3 points

Is this what you mean?

Impale.2503:

The Final Point spreadsheet for every fractal will be published 48 Hours before the tournament, and each registered team will be notified ingame.

I ask for example (not extract) and you answer with nothing. If on one hand you make interesting tourneys, on the other hand, the communication is lacking.

And this is our way of telling you that we explained very clearly how the point system works and that if you read the post we did not mention examples.

Therefore there won’t be examples.

We just try to set a standard for people to try and take the time to read and understand what we post, as well as previous answers, before asking questions that really do not have to be answered.

Anyhow, you have all the description you are going to get and will have to wait, like everyone, for the 24th to get the point breakdown.

Fror.2163:

Impale.2503:

The Final Point spreadsheet for every fractal will be published 48 Hours before the tournament, and each registered team will be notified ingame.

Could you elaborate a bit on this, give a dummy example of a sheet?

Is it something like this:
First fractal – Swampland: 1 point
First fractal – Aquatic Ruins: 2 points
First fractal – Urban Battleground: 4 points
Second fractal – Urban Battleground: 3 points

Is this what you mean?

Impale.2503:

The Final Point spreadsheet for every fractal will be published 48 Hours before the tournament, and each registered team will be notified ingame.

Tentonhammr.7849:

Impale.2503:

There are only Two Rules
You can’t switch character. (You are allowed to relog the same character for repairs)
You can’t use gem store items.

As far as other aspects of fractals, anything goes, so have fun strategizing.

1. Please clarify gem store items. Obviously boosters and costume brawl items (executioner’s axe) would be banned, but does that extend to literally everything? Rez orbs (presumably banned)? Repair canisters?

2. Does anything really go? Taking Mossman for a swim for a 90 minutes doesn’t sound all that competitive or entertaining.

Gem store consumables are prohibited in the tournament, if you want to try and make use of that Number 2 on your executioner’s axe, go for it – Hint, in fractals it won’t matter much.

Anything goes, if you take Mossman for a swim for 90min go for it, you won’t make it past round 1 most likely, and won’t get any coverage during said round.
So it will not affect the entertainement/competitive side of the tournament.

spoj.9672:

Yeah but it all depends on your point system. And even with a perfect point system (impossible), RNG can favour teams massively by giving them only their best fractals while others get stuck with only their worst fractals. Keep getting time gated fractals? re-roll. Oh you’ve lost time and potential good tier 3 fractal points. A picking system is vastly superior and completely different so I dont see why you are comparing to the DnT tournament.

Dear Spoj,

Our point system takes under account time gating – directly and indirectly – for every possible fractal, thanks to our recorded footage and thousands of hours of gameplay in FotM.

We also compensate, not only for the time gating, but also for progression through all tiers and bosses to give players an incentive to go through with the chain rather than rerolling.

So chances are that the team that gets 3 “long/time gated” fractals and chooses not to reroll, even if they end up with Mai Trin, will do better by completing it rather than rerolling.

The real RnG here is how good can a team perform against a certain encounter.

:)

Dub.1273:

To me, this sounds like an awful rng torture.

Welcome to Guild Wars 2.

:)

Fror.2163:

Impale.2503:

You can’t use gem store items.

Define those items. If you want to say “no boost”, just say so.

This so broad that it’s entirely possible that you disqualify someone for having a skin or salvaging using the Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic (as you well know, the inventory is often full after a fractal). I personally would consider those disqualifications unacceptable. Saying “just don’t use those” is also problematic as it’s being fastidious over non gameplay things.

Also, some other team could be fussy and swear they opened a boost with a key they got ingame. So the used item doesn’t technically come from the gem store.

No GemStore Consumable Items – sorry this wasn’t clarified.

Simply put no boosters, no rez orbs, no repair canisters, no metabolic primer, bonfire camp, etc.

Salvage-O-Matic isn’t a consumable, so it is fine.

And as far as other teams creating a fuss about boosters, the rule is here, Gem Store Consumables is a designation not an origin. No boosters means no boosters.

I hope that clarified things

Darox.8069:

So all four 90 minutes rounds will take place on the same day?

Yes, but keep in mind that there will be eliminations, so not everyone will get to play all the rounds, but they will get to watch the performance of the ones who progress, live!

Darox.8069:

You need to tell us more about the way this score goes

As mentioned in the thread, each fractal will be worth a certain amount of points and the Top 8, 4, and 2 will advance in the respective rounds.

The point allocation per fractal will be made public 48h before the tournament which means on the 24th.

Keep in mind the point distribution will be based on our recorded footage and upcoming runs awarding 1 point per minute it takes [KING] – on average – to complete said fractal with our current strategies.

To make it as fair as possible – and keep it interesting by preventing people from over calculating point distribution, we have decided to refine the list as much as possible and post at T -48h.

So there you go, all that is left for you is to enjoy the tournament

[KING] Immortal Kingdom – Fractal Tournament

The tournament will be held the 26th of July 2014 Starting at 14:00 UTC – Server Time

It will consist of 3 rounds of 90 minutes during which competing teams will have to complete as many level 50 fractals as possible. With a total prize amount of 4000g, it’s a healthy change of pace from typical fractals rewards!

The event will be streamed on twitch so each team must have one streamer.

Each fractal will be worth a specific amount of points based on its length based on [KING] Immortal Kingdom’s extensive experience in fractals. Incremental values based on the tier at which you get a fractal will be applied to reward progression, though you’re free to roll swamp over and over if you think you can still win.

The Final Point spreadsheet for every fractal will be published 48 Hours before the tournament, and each registered team will be notified ingame.

There are only Four Rules:

You can’t switch character. (You are allowed to relog the same character for repairs)

All pathways that are designed to block progress through the path must be opened. You may not have any party member(s) get past blocked passages until the required sequence/dialogue has been completed.

You will be disqualified if it is evident that your party has deliberately abused positioning to disable a boss. This means safe spotting a boss, line of sighting to cause a boss to break, etc.

You can’t use gem store consumables and tomes of knowledge – other consumables are welcome.

As far as other aspects of fractals, anything goes, so have fun strategizing.

The first round is open to every team who wants to participate. Afterwards all teams report their scores and close their streams. We’ll download the archived broadcasts to confirm the top 4 scores are accurate, then move on to the second round. Teams that will have ranked 5 to 8 will be rewarded but will not progress to the Semifinals.

The second round, or Semifinals, will consist of the top 4 from the free-for-all, the top two teams in terms of point will proceed to the Finals, where they will face each other in one last round of ultimate destiny to decide the victor!

Prizes
1st place – 2000g + 10000 Gems
2nd place – 1000g + 4000 Gems
3rd place – 500g
4th place – 250g
5th place – 125g
6th place – 75g
7th place – 50g
8th place – 1 Broken Claw

To apply please contact The Rise, Iquasi, Zip or Particlar – And post an application form as a reply to this post stating your team Name and Members.

You can check the teams taking part in the event here: http://bit.ly/1nVeIRP

If you want to get ready feel free to check our extensive fractal guides:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-f7beQOnuHhR9Rkjyv0e6gl4TKU0RVzj

or here

http://www.twitch.tv/jnvsor/profile/pastBroadcasts

And also check our spreadsheet of drop rates started on may 20th in which we just reached over 1000 chests open, so you can get an idea of what are your chances at getting the item you want!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18IHVJao5j85KOp6lBTOgO8qs4VYD3Xty-jKPZo8o-Q4/pubhtml

We look forward to see you participate and compete in the Summer 2014 KING Fractal Tournament!

We are a friendly and effective community, so don’t be afraid to contact us even to ask questions

Join our community now and enjoy rolling through content smoothly with a fun and helpful bunch!

Immortal Kingdom is still recruiting!

Feel free to contact us through the forums or ingame!

And congratulations to our members who hit -World First- FotM Level 50!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1rmmcj/eu_fractal_level_50/

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Ardent.5046:

I’ve sent a mail but didn’t get a response

Hello Ardent, we did recieve your mail, we are currently sorting applications and trial runs starting with Desolation players, please expect an answer shortly.

Thanks again for your application!

Immortal Kingdom [KING] – Desolation [EU] is a recent, small to medium sized PvE guild focused on core players and various PvE Activities – Dungeons, Fractals (38, 48), Tequatl.

You might know some of our members from Desolation from Tequatl Kills such as Particlar, The Ghostly, or other players for the world records posted on Reddit and YouTube such as Zip.

We are looking for a couple more players to join us in our dungeons, fractals in a daily manner. You do not have to be online 10 hours a day, but just be willing to play with your fellow guild-mates in various PvE content.

To apply, please send an in-game Mail to The Ghostly, Zip, or Particlar and you will be invited to do a couple dungeon runs with us as a validation process.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

The Ghostly.

Despite getting a texture update, the spear’s effect on crit (“Spirit Shark Head” appearing and biting the target upon critically hitting it with an attack that involves the spear hitting the target) is still bugged and will not occur on Mesmer’s attacks – Including the number 1 attack “Stab” which is described as “Stabbing your foe”.

It would be nice to fix these kind of issues along with making it “shiny’er”, you know so we get a functional weapon.

Thanks in advance for the fix. :p

AncientYs.8613:

Impale.2503:

I think it would be a nice addition to the “useful” items in the Gem Store for all players even for a “substantial” fee.

It would allow people to get back back items without having to remake them, etc. as long as the items you get back are soulbound/account bound.

What do you think?

What?

Do you think they will add Transmutation Splitters ( http://www.gw2db.com/items/22227-transmutation-splitter-s ) to the gemstore in addition to giving them to people with legendaries tomorrow?

That was thy question my fine Sir or Sirette.

I think it would be a nice addition to the “useful” items in the Gem Store for all players even for a “substantial” fee.

It would allow people to get back back items without having to remake them, etc. as long as the items you get back are soulbound/account bound.

What do you think?

Well while we’re fixing legendaries ArenaNet, why not make rangers and mesmers able to get the sexy shark animation on crit on Kamohoali’i Kotaki?

That would be very appreciated and we would bake you peanutbutter and white chocolate chip cookies.

Thanks.

PS: If that fails you will be bribed with cheesecake.

PPS: The autoattack chain should give the effect on crit for mesmer in all logic since it involves “Stabbing your foe.”. A direct hit with the weapon itself.

Now, if we only get one, we just have to hope they will indeed be in the gem store, and that it won’t be a one-time item. :p

They will most likely send you one….

Then put the Transmutation Splitters on the Gem Store….

For 1200 per, or 5000 per 5?….

And be like….. ¿Dinèros?…. $_$

Its supposed to have “More noticeable effects”.

I do believe its a way to say not much is going to happen to it…

But how can they say that they are happy with the way every legendary looks and leave the minstrel as is?

We’ll see at the release of this update i guess!

Will we still only get one even if we have multiple legendaries on one character? :p

That is the real question!

I am also wondering if you have more than 1 legendary on one character will you get the according number of Transmutation Splitters? Or do you get 1 for free and then they become available in the Gem Shop?

Thanks.

Any temples open on EU?