Guild Wars 2

Bit’s stream, each paid him, a variable sum of money to leave party before his group could get their daily and chest reward. It was all in good fun, and the people who were offended by the actions soon got over it and are back and good friends. We take this as a joke that was actually pretty kitten hilarious.

**Note that he was the party leader and if the party leader exits the party in a fractal, everyone is removed from the party.

-Wasdica

No Walking.6349:

I just can’t see taking it over thieves guild though…like EVER. And as far as timing goes, it takes a whole second just to cast. So you’re locked up for a second, to lock up your enemy for a second and a half….makes no sense to me at all. I think it’s a very weak elite.

Dude, Thieves guild is something I hardly use as they tend to die a lot. I only ever use it in duels against Mesmers. TG is only really useful when you’re running a build with crap damage like p/d condi.

Hey guys! :D — I’ve been on a hiatus, but now I’m back to spam the forum with builds again.

This build is for roaming and spike damage. Also very effective in small group play. It’s a variation of the 25/30/0/0/15, but more tanky and 15 in SA over Trickery.

I don’t know if any of you remember my last build, but it was evasion based while this one is blinds. I prefer only to stealth offensively as so many people complain about stealth.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1g.h2.a.1g.h17|5.1g.h4|1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1n.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1|1i.61.1i.61.1n.61.1n.61.1n.61.1i.61|p39.u68c.f5.0.0|39.1|57.5c.5h.5a.0|e

Note the 5/6 Zerker with 1 Knights armor and 3/6 Cavs with 3/6 Knights trinkets. Beryl Orbs all around. I want to try this build with 15 Acro, but haven’t gotten around to it.

Have fun! :D

#WhatRedSaid.

It’s one of things, just like most of Thief abilities, that you should be timing.

I never noticed a radium change. The radius is REALLY small naturally, though.

It’s only available by standing in exact spots sometimes and other times it’s impossible .

Rizzy.8293:

Slazarian CZE.9874:

Totally agree with this video. I don´t get the mania about thief being OP. I think that mesmers , guardians, elementalists are more close to be OP.

Woah woah woah!
Eles are no where near close to OP, the way ele is, you either survive a long time by being a punching bag and do very little damage knicking away at bads or you balance it out a little.

But yeah, thieves ar eno where near OP.

Mesmers on the other hand, Confusion is like empathy + backfire on steroids. -.-

Not to be ‘that guy’, but Eles can tank and do a lot of damage. Refer to BitCloud1 on twitch for his new build showcasing such.

They are considering making Revealed 3 seconds for PvE only. They are starting to balance the game separately. Meaning that each skill will be slightly different, eventually, in WvW compared to PvE.

Kaon.7192:

Isn’t this Caed’s build?

Even the burst sequence he described is a neutered version of Caed’s (without BP + Backstab which is about half of the burst lol…).

Pretty much, but there are only so many builds people can make.

This has been the standard 25/30 since launch. I don’t know what you’re doing different besides d/p and most Thieves have been using d/p in tournaments because it has always been superior in tournament play. Thanks for making a video though, will help new players.

We need to set up a duel tournament sometime. I like Dueling KH/ONI and the guilds I never remember from Kng.

First they need to fix your spacebar.

10/30/10/20 with s/d p/d Zerker armor— Trinkets: x3 Knights x3 Cav Ruby Orbs in armor and Beryl in Trinkets. Withdraw/ShadowStep/Signet of Ability/Signet of Shadows

Signet CD Reduction, Remove COndi In stealth, Vigorous and Quick Recovery are musts.

Have fun with a great stealthless(ish) evasion build that can brawl in zergs.

Puru.4217:

stof.9341:

Iove.3902:

I quite like the trait. I don’t see a problem with it, and have not experienced a problem with it. If anyone wants to enlighten me, please do so. Though, the reason I might not have problems is because I’m not a stealth spamming Thief — I use Evades.

Regardless, what are the problems you are having with it?

If you aren’t really using Stealth, why do you spec into Shadow Arts?

If you want to use a lot of Stealth, you have to spec into Shadow Arts and then the trait gets annoying.

Because:

1)This trait is powerfull if not massively using stealth
2)reducing the cd of deception by 20% is powerfull regardless of using a stealth build or not.

The trait is good but i agree it shouldn’t fork you if you rely massively on stealth, it simply needs to be modified slightly.

Indeed, I only have 10 into SA for the Deception CD. Acro > SA! Also, a thief’s main defense is his evades and mobility. Stealth is just a crutch.

I quite like the trait. I don’t see a problem with it, and have not experienced a problem with it. If anyone wants to enlighten me, please do so. Though, the reason I might not have problems is because I’m not a stealth spamming Thief — I use Evades.

Regardless, what are the problems you are having with it?

lol 25/30/0/0/15 complaining about dying.

@Daywolf

I am talking from a WvW standpoint. Not a 5man Dungeon that is extremely easy to dodge most attacks/ abuse the mechanics.

Death Blossom, and I like the idea of giving d/d better AoE damage.

laquito.5269:

Why is it that almost only non-thief players keep ranting about the class on the forum? We’ve got neither access to stability nor to invulnerability, no second life bar, no clones, no access to (massivly) block, no knockdowns, we can’t rally ourselves blablabla, yet people still whine about us. Invisibility doesnt mean we’re invulnerable or not there at all, if you can’t handle it, reroll a thief. Seriously its mostly bad players complaining in here and whats even more funny, is that they don’t even whine about d/p stealth spam, which is probably the only thing I consider OP – perma blind + stealthed needs to go, thats it. We’re a burst class by design, able to take out players fast, if they don’t pay attention, if you don’t like that design, move to another game. Now go troll yourself.

We do have knockdowns :p

Lalangamena.3694:

Irena.1062:

I’m not so sure I heard Water Elementalist is the best healer.

Guardian is the best healer, leaving elementalist back in the dust where it belongs.

the 0/0/30/30/10 is a solid tank/healer build.
the only problem is the runes.
healing breeze is on 40 sec CD, slotting condition damage runes for 10 sec vigor every 40 seconds is wrong choice.

with scepter (auto attack and smite) you can get even with 10% crit rate very high vigor uptime due to “vigorous precision” passive trait.

boon duration will be much much better for such build (2*water, 2*monk +2maj water)
or full altruism for people who use more consecrations and meditations instead of shouts, or simply don’t like boon duration runes.

While I agree there are ways to improve this build from a damage standpoint, that’s not my goal with this build. The damage is alright as in anyway for a bunker.

The Runes (6/6) do not apply vigor they instantly refill your endurance bar allowing me to dodge heal for 1.5k. To make this Rune more effective you could use a heal with a 30sec CD, but what’s 10 seconds for one dodge when I can just use Healing breeze and heal for double?

So, keep in mind I’m not here to solo roam WvW. I’m here to keep the group alive with ease, buff, and CC.

I also want to note that you shouldn’t always be running around with Shouts as your utility. Each utility is situational, and you should be swapping per-battle that you know would need X.

Though, lots of good things from the shouts. I just see people locked into one skill bar and never realize the potential of a Bubble to rezz someone or a Wall to reflect range attacks.

I made one, and it works. Soooo much fun. I missed you healing!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAreWlcg67mFyKEm4ERWhVi9AjZsjXPcYCZIA;TwAgzCmo0yolQLrWOtkat+Y0w5j5HA

Full Clerics, Adventurer Runes, 40% Endurance recharge rate food, Sharpening Stones, Sapphire Orbs. Dodge mania! Also the auto attacks are okay. Could sub Sapphire for Ruby and use Maintenance Oil for more crit to deal more damage while keeping the defense and healing, but I wanted a full-on support role.

Played healers in MMOs for years, and I found GW2’s healer.

If the link doesn’t work just copy and paste it.

P.S — Lots of heal available, and Healing Breeze heals people for 3k.

Sifu.6527:

Iove.3902:

Also it would behoove you to remember that CND builds as well as Thief mobility are receiving buffs. Devs have said that they want to give us more types of conditions. Here’s hoping you can do some burn damage.

They also said there will be no gear grind…

I believe they said the game would not feel like a grind… rather than saying “you will have a gear treadmill”. I’m sure they were talking about leveling not being a grind because you can get away with saying stuff like that as PR since it could have multiple meanings and could get people attracted to the game.

Dasorine.1964:

Iove.3902:

Also it would behoove you to remember that CND builds as well as Thief mobility are receiving buffs. Devs have said that they want to give us more types of conditions. Here’s hoping you can do some burn damage.

They said they are thinking about it, thats not the same thing as giving them.

The nerf is coming before they give any compensation (if any ever gets put in at all, there is patterns forming)

Take notice that I said ‘want’ and not ‘will’ give.

Also it would behoove you to remember that CND builds as well as Thief mobility are receiving buffs. Devs have said that they want to give us more types of conditions. Here’s hoping you can do some burn damage.

Well not anymore! Because I said so, and I’m gettin’ real tired of your kitten. Anyway, he’s two builds that won’t be affected much by the new changes and they are delightfully fun to play.
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The premise of this build was to have a nice balance of armor and attack ratings. I’ve always been comfortable with builds that have 2500 armor or more because it gives you more staying power in fights. I don’t know if it is WvW buffs, but I play this build in rare armor and have more Health and Armor. Keep that in mind.

Also, you may see a now-common weapons set, but this is different because it’s not bunker. (0/10/30/30/0) I went for more damage at 10/30/30/0/0. Even without the initiative regen you can still obtain high stealth upkeep very easily.

Note you could also swap the Might on Signet for the CD reduction one.

Copy and paste the link! ;)

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1g.h2.a.1g.h1h|c.0.h4.8.0.0|1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1n.67.1n.67.8a.67|a3.u62b.u45b.0.0|3t.1|57.5h.5c.5b.0|e
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Now this build started with the idea of making a p/d build that is not carrion, and is more bursty. It took me a few hours to balance stats, but I have found a nice way for it to work. Originally, the idea was to use 10/30/30 with pistol traits and the gear you see above. That lead to some very nice crits from Skill 1 and 3 though the burst just wasn’t always there. So I looked into balancing CNDDMG with Power.

It actually worked out well, good amount of armor, decent vitality and almost 2k power with 1.2k condition damage. Even with the stealth changes p/d won’t be affected much since you have to attack anyway. Just make sure you stay in stealth for three seconds before attacking for that condition removal. (It removes when entering stealth and every 3 seconds after.)

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|a.1g.9c.8.1g.h17|5.1g.h5|1h.719.1h.719.1h.719.1h.719.1h.719.1h.719|1o.67.1o.67.1h.67.1b.67.1b.67.8c.67|a3.u56b.k45.0.a5|3t.1|57.5h.5c.5b.0|e
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I’m too lazy to make names for them like my past builds. D; Have fun! Just ask if you have any questions, or if you have better idea for Sigils. I never am good with Sigils, so I just put Orbs or Crests most of the time.

P.S That last link looks cut off, but I cliked it and I didn’t get a ‘bad link’ error, so idk what you guys will see.

People who say “as X class” and then agree with a nerf don’t actually play that class.

I want to see an Ele who can attune to water every 1 second. The shortest CD for it is 10 or 9. Enough time to apply pressure to make the nervous.

savints.6281:

Iove.3902:

Outclassed it mobility by Elementalists? We are significantly faster. Though, they do posses great mobility as well. Remember, ANet is buffing out mobility even more!

Have you ever tried to catch one of those buggers, if they want to gtfo, they are going to do it, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them, at least with the d/d all the boons in the world all the time for ever set up.

Yes I have, I know how to counter the class too. Shocker.

#ImmobilizeSwordTooStronk also much more easy to catch when they aren’t running FGS.

Outclassed it mobility by Elementalists? We are significantly faster. Though, they do posses great mobility as well. Remember, ANet is buffing out mobility even more!

Guess I was right about the lack of presence.

Awesome, but I have some feels this thread is going to be deleted. Then we’ll have to wonder if it’s ANet angry they’ve been called out, or if it got off topic. Though, with the lack of their presence here it may stay.

Okay, but you have to hold my hand.

I like the ideas for the p/d set. I hope they do something like that, and give us confusion. Would make more sense than more poison..

Kurow.6973:

Iove.3902:

It’s a terrain bug. Happens with Ele’s RTL, Warrior’s GS rush. Rangers GS rush etc..

I’ve personally never had it happen with “Ele’s RTL, Warrior’s GS rush, and Rangers GS rush”, but that’s not to dismiss it if others did encounter it.

Then why even say that? Just because it never happened to you doesn’t mean it never happens. I know you said this, but I don’t think you realize you said it… because the last part of your post makes the whole post redundant.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Even Anet hates us. love dont you see? Just like our in game avatars, we were meant to be lonely. Alone. im cold……..

It is quite lonely, yes. Just you and me who visit frequently.

I just realized that we don’t have any support from Devs. or ANet forum mods. Or rather, no presence at all. Sure we have the “Thief Gameplay…”, but I feel that was made so ANet could just look at all the complaints made about the class.

I just think I’d be cool to be able to talk to these people about ourselves. Feels lonely when it’s just Evasion and Hate threads spewed everywhere.

It would be beneficial for them to visit each class forum and talk a little more. I’m sure they spend a nice amount of time at work on FB/Twitter/Instagram anyway. (Who doesn’t when working in an Office?) Make the time wasting useful, assuming there is any, and beneficial. I’m sure if they read our forum they’d realize their oversight for nerfing the SA trait line so that we hardly have Condi Removal or any form of Regen.

tl;dr – I think ANet should have more interaction with their forums if they want to build any form of stable community, for starters.

It’s a terrain bug. Happens with Ele’s RTL, Warrior’s GS rush. Rangers GS rush etc..

If you want Swiftness use Infiltrator’s Signet, it’s about the same, and JPs were not designed with Swiftness in mind anyway.

If they want to nerf stealth I say we need a slight buff to armor rather than health pools.

I don’t think a lot of you understand. Nerfing stealth in this way removes our main source of might, healing, and condi removal. We are already weak in the defense department. If you nerf our main defense give us more vit or armor so I can take mroe than one hit from a any other class. And god help us with Confusion or Condi Necros now.

They need to just rename us ‘the’ Duelist.

So if I fall out of stealth I get the revealed debuff? Nope. You just broke it, just take away stealth at this point and give us more armor. You dun goofed.

@RedSpectrum: That is the hardest one to land out of Mesmer/Thief stomping xD

I don’t see the problem with the current state of the skill. It hardly heals for anything viable unless you were to stack healing power. Much better to have someone with Regen in the group like a banner/shout warrior if you want good heals. Plus, can’t beat the condition removal of the other skills.

There are hardly any ways for this skill to work in PvP unless you are dueling. I want you to show me a build where a Thief runs in with Shortbow and this and survives a zerg fight without stealthing to avoid being targeted.

Never put bloodlust on any of you main weapons. You can have it on an extra gets the stacks and take it off for something else and keep the stacks.

You looked all over the internet? By that you mean you just asked the forums.

The class is called Thief. Not rogue.

/thread

Umm, the other weapon set was meant to be dagger/pistol

Thieves generally have low HP, stacking it usually doesn’t save you much. I use this:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|c.1g.h17.8.1g.h1h|8.1g.h17.8.1g.h1h|1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1p.67.1p.67.1c.67|0.k63.u45b.k69.0|3l.1|57.5c.5f.5b.5v|e