Guild Wars 2

J Eberle.9312:

Lindbur.2537:

J Eberle.9312:

kitten it, I’m gonna sit on my lvl 1 character naked until the best gear comes out.

oh no you don’t

put some clothes on

Asking a woman.
Online.
To put her clothes.
On.

You don’t have “dat face” that appeals to him

Ham, chicken and pineapple

There were also the level 100 amulets or w/e that was data mined. Guess we migh as we’ll wait for that.

Also it helped for the vuln when we weren’t able to “lol fgs wall rush” things

The reason we went with engi over thief was that the engi can blast stealth quicker than the thief during the split IMO. This allowed the ele, me in the run, to not have to use as many blasts during the stealth section which resulted in less downtime before Nente. I did mess up a bit during the split as it could have gone smoother but it was super late for me even though that isn’t an excuse. I found it fun having the engi however for this one. We did try with thief as well and the result wasn’t that desirable IMO.

Thanks Cookie

And it’s official

http://gwscr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=648

I agree, go guild hunting

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Makes sense. I still don’t know why a lot of people who play for some time now feel attacked when you give them advice or suggest a different approach. I can just assume they think I indirectly said they’re bad players or they feel like taking advice is admitting that or whatever goes on in their heads, but for me giving and receiving advice, new tactics and tricks is simply expanding your horizon.

A lot of people feel like they’re entitled to everything lately and feel that any advice is an attack on their playstyle and knowledge/experience/whatever. I’m always up for learning new tip and tricks and new strategies for encounters. It gives me options for when plan A doesn’t function.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

I just had 4 first timers for TA story which all had less than 1k AP. They managed to play better than a lot of “experienced” players, understood how to blast fields without having me telling them and went full melee except for the S/D ele.

How is this even possible? kittening pugs, how do they work? I mean I’m not complaining about those guys, but you’d expect it to be the opposite.

Easy…it’s called educating yourself instead of yoloing. They probably have spent time looking at the wiki and youtube on people that are more experienced. I recently had a run in with an “experienced” player who was in a higher end guild that couldn’t even blast their own fields and were expecting others to do it for them. Let’s just say that person rage quit on is :P

No Pulse.2967:

NACotser.4125:

Yeah but now he’s in my ‘Elitist Jerks only’ Arah p2 party. :c

I saw it when I was selling P3

Such a kazul

NACotser.4125:

European sizes go up to 47-48 usually
UK and American go to 13
Educate yourself on shoes,
On topic: A Staff guard with toughness stacks gave me a free arah p1 today, I don’t know how I feel about this.

He probably has a notepad titled “Evil Elitists I’ve Carried” that he’s checked off everytime he does a path. :P

In a serious note though, it can be done. Wonder how long it took him?

J Eberle.9312:

I’m a size 36 >_> kitten

You will always be my little princess <3

Jerus.4350:

I’m the odd man out, but I actually really like COE

It’s fun the first 100-ish times each path…but that can be said about any dungeon. I used to really like CoE until recently. Heck, I used to love HotW all three paths. Now and days my favs are Arah and CM…might be because I main thief though so idk :P

I disagree on engi being bad. In dungeon they do well as they can provide vuln and might stacking and steal thing abilities. ATM they aren’t that top tier in dungeons because of the FGS meta but are also not a bad class.

They shine in fractals however IMO due to the vuln stacking abilities and the fact that the FGS meta doesn’t apply to fractals as well.

Necro…well not so great unfortunately. Their problem is that they don’t provide anything to the team IMO.

How can the change the gift of fortune to make it more expensive? A stack each of the lodestones? I’ll wait a year an a half then before making any like how I did with these legendaries I’ve made this year.

Meh if you’re after the new legendaries just hope that you have your gift of fortune and mastery done already because everything will skyrocket on that day. My in-game wallet isn’t ready for that day

Arah, start with p3 IMO.

I also tend to enjoy SE and CM but as always different people like different things.

Dub.1273:

J Eberle.9312:

You could like.. make your own thread. Kind of like how people make their own groups.

That’s elitist scumbaggery.

Scumbag Swifty at it again. :<

Obtena.7952:

J Eberle.9312:

How do you know that they started it?

Because people who believe in playing how they want don’t care what builds people use.

Take a second and re-evaluate that statement. ANYONE can be the culprit of this if you’re using that logic and who is to say that the “evil kitten elitists” were they ones that started this movement? Was it recorded in video game history, can you find the source? Did the Prophet state this in his/her teachings?

J Eberle.9312:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

J Eberle.9312:

Obtena.7952:

JasmineLong.6514:

Guess you didn’t pay much attention to the rest of the post and went straight for the one that applied to you the most. =D

Most of the people doing the kicking are the PHIW people to the “evil-elitists”. Inb4 you say, “Well the elistists must have been trying to tell them how to play :<.” No most of the time it’s us giving them a suggestion and they in turn automatically go on the offensive and start swearing/cursing and kicking people because their fps was just cut in half.

Your not paying attention to the whole thread … if play how I tell you people weren’t kicking people to start with, the people you label PHIW wouldn’t be kicking anyone NOW.

How do you know that they started it?

Aren’t we the root of all evil?

Oh yeh.

I think I may need to write something on it.
Elitists: The Root of all Evil
-Swiftpaw Dawkins GMB.

Why yes we are http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/funny-gif-frodo-ring.gif

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

JasmineLong.6514:

No most of the time it’s us giving them a suggestion and they in turn automatically go on the offensive and start swearing/cursing and kicking people because their fps was just cut in half.

This.
I’m in a GW2-Group on facebook (which is already a bad idea) and if someone asks for a build and you recommend them meta-builds (and explain what’s so good about them) you have at least a handful of people who will jump up you saying that the berserker-meta is kitten, you’re only kissing dirt when playing berserker, random insults.. The best one I saw was “berserker-kitten”.

//Oh come on filter. Kitten = the bad kind of germans during WWII.

What are you talking about, I love the filter!

Ape kitten!

Obtena.7952:

JasmineLong.6514:

Obtena.7952:

JasmineLong.6514:

spoj.9672:

Obtena.7952:

spoj.9672:

People can magically tell who has done bad things just so they can go and invade their parties and throw abuse?

That’s the problem … if people weren’t kicking and abusing others for how they play, there wouldn’t BE any party invasions and abuse. Intolerance spreads, now your getting a spoonful, not because you deserve it, but because it’s the behjaviours that people have been exposed to .. because of play how I tell you attitudes. Guess root cause analysis isn’t your guys strong point.

The thing is we arent intolerant. We just ask for certain requirements to be met. If i dont specify, then I dont care. Thats the same for most people. The problem is obviously these unstable idiots that take everything personally. Unfortunately that seems to be 99% of the worlds population these days. I really hate people. >.>

Basically how I feel as well. If I’m taking the time out to be specific on my lfg, then I expect the people joining to have both read AND met the requirements of it. Failing to do one of those is disrespectful in my opinion and makes me believe that you think you are above me or whoever the lfg poster is. When I join someone’s lfg I do my best to play by how their post was and try to not step on anyone’s toes.

I agree. People should NEVER be treated in a negative way for playing how they WANT, including people that specify who they want in their groups … see what I’m getting at here? You want to be respected for how you play but Play how I tell you people have ruined that atmosphere in this game.

Funny thing is that the “evil-elitists” tend to be more forgiving of PHIW builds most of the time when they pug (if their lfg is not requiring more “evil-elitists” that is). I’ve been in many pug groups that will insta-kick you if your PHIW is different than their PHIW. I’ve been kicked for stacking before because they felt that they didn’t have enough dps to make the stacking method efficient enough when there clearly was. I’ve carried nomad/cleric Charrdians through Arah and have had them complain the whole time, did I kick them…no but I REALLY wanted to!

I’ve been in many pug groups that will insta-kick you if your PHIW is different than their PHIW.

I pulled out the sentence that makes the biggest impact here. If no one kicked anyone ever, we wouldn’t have these issues. Instead, we have a culture of people kicking for any reason because it’s how Play how I tell you people dealt with people that didn’t conform to their standards of play. Intolerance.

Guess you didn’t pay much attention to the rest of the post and went straight for the one that applied to you the most. =D

Most of the people doing the kicking are the PHIW people to the “evil-elitists”. Inb4 you say, “Well the elistists must have been trying to tell them how to play :<.” No most of the time it’s us giving them a suggestion and they in turn automatically go on the offensive and start swearing/cursing and kicking people because their fps was just cut in half.

Obtena.7952:

JasmineLong.6514:

spoj.9672:

Obtena.7952:

spoj.9672:

People can magically tell who has done bad things just so they can go and invade their parties and throw abuse?

That’s the problem … if people weren’t kicking and abusing others for how they play, there wouldn’t BE any party invasions and abuse. Intolerance spreads, now your getting a spoonful, not because you deserve it, but because it’s the behjaviours that people have been exposed to .. because of play how I tell you attitudes. Guess root cause analysis isn’t your guys strong point.

The thing is we arent intolerant. We just ask for certain requirements to be met. If i dont specify, then I dont care. Thats the same for most people. The problem is obviously these unstable idiots that take everything personally. Unfortunately that seems to be 99% of the worlds population these days. I really hate people. >.>

Basically how I feel as well. If I’m taking the time out to be specific on my lfg, then I expect the people joining to have both read AND met the requirements of it. Failing to do one of those is disrespectful in my opinion and makes me believe that you think you are above me or whoever the lfg poster is. When I join someone’s lfg I do my best to play by how their post was and try to not step on anyone’s toes.

I agree. People should NEVER be treated in a negative way for playing how they WANT, including people that specify who they want in their groups … see what I’m getting at here? You want to be respected for how you play but Play how I tell you people have ruined that atmosphere in this game.

Funny thing is that the “evil-elitists” tend to be more forgiving of PHIW builds most of the time when they pug (if their lfg is not requiring more “evil-elitists” that is). I’ve been in many pug groups that will insta-kick you if your PHIW is different than their PHIW. I’ve been kicked for stacking before because they felt that they didn’t have enough dps to make the stacking method efficient enough when there clearly was. I’ve carried nomad/cleric Charrdians through Arah and have had them complain the whole time, did I kick them…no but I REALLY wanted to!

spoj.9672:

Obtena.7952:

spoj.9672:

People can magically tell who has done bad things just so they can go and invade their parties and throw abuse?

That’s the problem … if people weren’t kicking and abusing others for how they play, there wouldn’t BE any party invasions and abuse. Intolerance spreads, now your getting a spoonful, not because you deserve it, but because it’s the behjaviours that people have been exposed to .. because of play how I tell you attitudes. Guess root cause analysis isn’t your guys strong point.

The thing is we arent intolerant. We just ask for certain requirements to be met. If i dont specify, then I dont care. Thats the same for most people. The problem is obviously these unstable idiots that take everything personally. Unfortunately that seems to be 99% of the worlds population these days. I really hate people. >.>

Basically how I feel as well. If I’m taking the time out to be specific on my lfg, then I expect the people joining to have both read AND met the requirements of it. Failing to do one of those is disrespectful in my opinion and makes me believe that you think you are above me or whoever the lfg poster is. When I join someone’s lfg I do my best to play by how their post was and try to not step on anyone’s toes.

J Eberle.9312:

Obtena.7952:

J Eberle.9312:

Obtena.7952:

J Eberle.9312:

Obtena.7952:

J Eberle.9312:

I’m playing how I want, in my own party that I create. People join and expect me to put up with how they want to play. They ignore my request in the lfg, they don’t care about pinging gear and somehow we are on equal footing when it comes to being in the wrong. I don’t think so. They can make their own parties the same as I make mine. I’m not forcing anything on them, they can choose to join my group and adhere to my rules or they can choose to make their own group with their own rules. Never have I joined their groups and told them off for running terrible builds or doing stupid crap because I respect their rules, now all I do is expect that in return and I get abuse hurled at me and labelled an elitist. Lol.

That’s a nice story but play how I tell you people have been hating on play how I want people since BEFORE the LFG thing was established.

That’s irrelevant and doesn’t take away from the fact that this is happening.

I’m not arguing it’s not happening … I don’t even get the point of bringing it up.

Here is an interesting mind experiment … make a game where 100% of the people that play it play how they want … would that game have all of these hateful threads about elitists, etc….? You guys aren’t recognizing that cause and effect here. You slap a guy, he slaps you back. Now your complaining you got slapped? That’s some good revisionist history there.

Sorry not seeing how me making my own party, minding my own business and then having people ignore my requirements and abuse me = my fault.

Of course not … you haven’t done anything to promote intolerance in the game ever ><

I surely haven’t. I’m a nice person! Ask my references!

You’re mean as all hell

You got about a two month break. That’s enough to both refresh as well as prep for this next one. It’s going to be awesome!

Apparition.1576:

Try doing what the man says instead of posting your troll responses. In a normal group without melee stacking it does not do more damage but it is on par in terms of damage.

I have tried many builds for warrior my opinion is unbiased. I have preference but I could care less if a build is optimal or sub-optimal but I can say that his points are completely valid.

Two things catch my eye. “In a normal group without melee stacking.” All groups/pugs/whatever that I’ve joined use stack tactics since that is what is efficient. The ones that don’t use it either don’t know about it or aren’t efficient enough in their class to produce the dps needed to take out the boss fast enough or do not know the mechanics of the boss in order to avoid the damage. Inb4 spider queen gets thrown in as an example. Even in pugs, there is at least one Elementalist for AC that I have seen in my runs.

“I have tried many builds for warrior my opinion is unbiased. I have preference but I could care less if a build is optimal or sub-optimal but I can say that his points are completely valid.” IMO this statement contradicts itself, maybe I’m just interpreting it incorrectly. You’ve tried the builds an you know what works and what doesn’t, yet you don’t care whether it’s optimal or not what you run? Why would you not want to run an optimal build, since those builds are generally the ones that benefit the party the most. For most if not all bosses, hammer is not a great weapon. You have three CC skills as Tree mentioned and then you have a weak AA chain IMO, a weakness (wow) and a cripple which is more of a hassle to the team than anything else.

(>’-‘)> Shots or riot <(’-’<)

Are you going to be taking a shot for each student that wipes?

Lindbur.2537:

There is a horrifying lack of female charr in this thread. Q_Q

It’s not horrifying at all :P

Razor.6392:

Ok so let me get this straight OP. Your signature says you’re from DnT, now I don’t know much about the “hardcore pve scene”, but I believe those guys are known for speedclearing stuff extremely efficiently and quick (correct me if I’m wrong).

Why would you want to remove FGS 4?

Are other guilds catching up to your “records” by using this “cheese” perhaps?
Do you enjoy longer PvE fights?
Or maybe you guys never run elementalists, so you feel you’re at a disadvantage?

I honestly don’t understand why would you care.

Take a look at gwscr.com

DnT holds quite a few records and they use fgs in their comps. I’m sure the reason colesy is trying to make is that fgs kinda gimps some things that people would otherwise find difficult. I as well as many others use fgs in order to make things efficient but I’m sure some encounters people would find long/tedious/difficult without it.

Grimezy.5679:

maha.7902:

Cut the staff ele for an engi – tadaa, similar dps but you actually have vuln stacking on top of it!

Why not just order a mass-deletion of people’s Ele’s while we’re at it? Clearly they’re good for nothing.

You’re taking these comments too personal IMO. No one said screw eles in fractals, just showing different comps. A ps war and an engi are a great combo for might and vuln since they can keep it up a lot better than other comps. Nothing is wrong with an ele in fractals but we can do without one and still manage. This is a PHIW game after all ;D

Grimezy.5679:

maha.7902:

No, you do not provide more might than a phalanx warrior. Here’s the thing – ele ha uses, but I’ve already mentioned other classes can cover them. It’s like saying a mes is good because they have reflect, CC and condi cleanse. Well yeah, they do, but so do guardians. I find it hard to rank a completely replaceable class as #1.

I’m not familiar with a Phalanx warrior. Could you tell me what exactly they provide?

I just find it hard to believe there’s another class out there that easily maintains 15+ Might and Perma-fury without having to compromise their own DPS at all.

Phalanx strength warrior (05063) can provide might to the team every time they themselves get might. With strength runes and a greatsword it is typical for a PS warrior to output 25 might to the team on basically a permanent basis. The only issue with this that people may call it an issue is that they cannot prestack might all that well since their might stacking ability mostly comes from in battle.

You can say that about any class…so I don’t see the issue. Every class has something to bring to the team, it just depends on comp and play style but I honestly feel that there isn’t a class that is REQUIRED in fractals in order to make it successful.

My advice is find three friends that you ckittene as placeholders. This way when you start selling the majority of the team comp will be people you know. Once you get a customer and they pay you, have one of your friends leave and then advertise again. Repeat this until you have all your customers.

Alternatively you can have a friend be a proxy. This means they will advertise, collect the money and then you invite them to your team once the money has been collected.

I’m pretty sure no one is saying that eles aren’t an asset, at least not from my brief skimming of the thread. It’s just that there are other team comps that do well that do not require an ele. I’ve been in a group with 2 wars, 1 guard/mes/thief and it went smooth. I’ve also been in the same type of group comp with other people where it hasn’t. It all depends on the people and play styles. Eles do bring a lot to the team, however a poor ele most of the time can lead to a not so great run.

Like guang said, d/d is the highest single target you can do as a thief, start of with cloak and dagger, the get behind the enemy and backstab (your stealth 1 skill). Then perform your auto attack chain until you have full initiative again then repeat. Your trait setup should be 66002 with this so that you get the bonus damage from having over 6 initiative while attacking. Have fun =)

KilluaDarkReaper.3684:

Hey there can anybody tell me what runes and sigils i need to be running as a P/D Thief in PvE such as dungeons anything PvE ?

Part of me really hopes you mean d/p since p5 is a blind…but I’m guessing you really mean p/d.

The problem with your current weapon set and play style is that it brings NOTHING to the group setting. No I am not telling you how you should play but I am just saying that I would not be surprised if you got kicked.

=)

Jerus.4350:

Ehh I like I Jerem, mainly because I’m jealous of the Heritage Armor, I almost want to stop playing GW2 for a bit just so I can play GW1 and get all that stuff. Between that and the Wheelock Rifle, it’s just about worth it.

…it’s actually a somewhat inside joke…moving on, nothing to see here :P

Jeremlloyd.6837:

My new skipping set

Jerem doing what jerem does best, playing a Mesmer in ugly clothes ;P

slamb.4781:

Hi is Noob recruiting? I’m very interested in joining

Specify EU or NA. Also as a student, mentor, mindless lamb…quaggan?

Ahh yes…the “no stacking” post. I’ll just drop these here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Potential-Solution-for-Stack-Thread-Closing

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Potential-solution-for-stacking

As you can see, this has been brought up quite recently. Stacking is designed to improve the team experience. Sharing buffs and being able to focus down a target easier. Even if they made it so people couldn’t stack on top of each other, the next thing would be people stacking staggered behind/beside each other in order to share boons and still be in melee. Then we’d see posts like “Stop holding hands while fighting” or “Get out of my personal space” or some other ridiculous thread title voicing your opinion about how the game should be played.

I’ll show up if you need people…I can carry your guard like last time

maxinion.8396:

inb4 maha

Let’s see if I can beat him to it.

http://www.dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/12956045-ebola-warrior-pve-dps-condition-damage-build-for-solo-play

Dro.1047:

we don’t post on gwscr :/

You should, that was an amazing run.

You forgot to include your options screen for a look at the game build for the restricted rules on gwscr.com

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I’ve found that my EU fractal pugs are Far Far FAR worse than my NA fractal pugs.

Pugs in general… well. I may be getting lucky but I’ve been having good times as of late.

I’ll pug with you XD

Looks awesome!

Way to smash KRS’ record!

SE p3 shouldn’t be too bad with a guard/thief combo. You should have enough cleansing between the two of you in order to beat the first boss and all his bleed stacks. Will the fights take longer? Sure they will but that’s the fun and challenge of low manning it.