Guild Wars 2

yes plz. since merged solo submitting takes too much quque time and also the most problem is that, I meet a lot of premade teams jeez. I rather like previous seperated quque. For only today i got premade teams (at least consisting 2 people or more) more than 5 times, wth anet. I used to be usually rotating between top100 range and hit top4 many times before in the previous soloq leaderboard, therefore, I wouldnt say I am really bad, but now the new system is just grinding system and even gets me premades. The thing went even worse than ever. I got kinda angry for this so I am gonna play different game until anet bring back pure soloq without any size of premade, or make rewardable 1vs1 ranked dueling arena. so gl guys until then, cya

from my tons of dueling experience, following are broken: ele(overall), engi(turret), mes(pu and cond). the only difference is that mesmer loses point for using stealth, so not been used a lot in tourney,but samely op In dueling situation anyway. gf

just rip 5vs5 pvp leaderboard and make dueling arena and give previous mmr based leaderboard of it to estimate real skilled players

it is just now total grind. look at top 1 guy and his previous leaderboard’s rank and number of matchs done

from my tons of dueling experience, following are broken: ele(overall), engi(turret), mes(pu and cond). the only difference is that mesmer loses point for using stealth, so not been used a lot in tourney,but samely op In dueling situation anyway. gf

Silentshoes.1805:

Kitt.2567:

lol win% 46% guy is top#1 gg anet nice job done

You don’t understand how that player could actually be the best, eh?

You should read up on how GW2 rates skill.

You see, it’s a team game. The top players are the best team players.

He is so good that he improved his teams performance the most. So he is the best GW2 player.

Lol jejus have you dueled Lexi at least once? I wouldn’t say she is not best player in the world, she is just one of the most-playing player along with Ghaleon, Danny. I have met her in soloq a lot lot of times before new pvp update, i can definitely say this. BTW, do you even know her class and pvp leaderboard rank before patch and how much she have played there? if you knew you wouldnt say current new leaderboard is good system but just grinding.

lol win% 46% guy is top#1 gg anet nice job done

Current leaderboard is just about grinding, more you play more rank you get, you cant determine how good you are here. Now, I really want anet would implement 1vs1 dueling arena that actually rewards Gold or something. And It will be only way to estimate player’s actual skills. And this will greatly increase game balance system becuz many people will blame anet for op build things.

MarkPhilips.5169:

It’s not really a pure grinding.

How many points you get, it depends on odds and end score, so skill it’s always important.

But i’m not really sure at the end of the season we’ll have in the top20 , always the same best 4 teams, it really depends on how much they’ll play.

Really curious about it.

eh according to data by comparing previous leaderboard’s top people and current top people, i would say 50% grinding, 25% personal skill, 25% luck.

glock.6590:

The new leaderboards is based on how much you play. Even worse than before. Look up the leaderboard now, some1 with 40% win rate is in the top 5 ( rank 2)

GG anet

I actually like this grinding system. Maybe i would play something differnt becuz i know its all about grinding than personal skill.

Yeah, I just looked up the new leaderboard, i think the new system is giving ranks like, more you play higher rank you get, but need to be somehow skilled though. I mean, if 2 people are samely skilled but one of those two plays more, that one person who plays lot get higher rank. Reversely, the another skilled person, who plays less, has similar rank as some1 who isnt skilled but plays lot. I mean, now leaderboard become grinding system, which is simple that you don’t need to care about leaderboard rank that much since it is just about farming. That is why you see bunch of winrate 50% and also not well-known as really skilled player in the top# 1~25 rank of the new leaderboard. It is just grinding now.

robertul.3679:

Kitt.2567:

Cele is fine becuz other classes are not that much benefited from using cele as much as ele or engi’s benefits. Just nerf ele(overall), engi(overall), mes(pu and condi) is fine. I felt there is no way to beat them in 1vs1. the only reason why mesmer isnt used in tourney is that capture point become neutral while fighting cuz mes’s stealth. but those 3 are op in dueling anyway.

Hello there Kitt a.k.a Mr Nerf All Buff Warrior! Your lack of understanding about mesmers and other classes(including your main beloved warrior) is always entertaining!
On topic: Congrats Abjured.
Will next tourney include courtyard and skyhammer? Please?

you are lack of understanding broken game balances. This game is hugely broken becuz of those 3 jobs and you see only those classes in world tournament as a result. BTW, I can PWN you if you run anything except above jobs.

Cele is fine becuz other classes are not that much benefited from using cele as much as ele or engi’s benefits. Just nerf ele(overall), engi(overall), mes(pu and condi) is fine. I felt there is no way to beat them in 1vs1. the only reason why mesmer isnt used in tourney is that capture point become neutral while fighting cuz mes’s stealth. but those 3 are op in dueling anyway.

You now really dont care your leaderboard rank if you are solo quque person. In the previous SoloQ leaderboard, the person who has more than 1~200 matchs but has highest winrate was around 70%. This is probably highest winrate you could obtain ,if you are very skilled, even though pvp is updated, so rank is calculated based on high hardest enemy is. The winrate fact does not change.

Highest Winrate of TeamQ is like 85%, which means they monopolizes by only teamming up with skilled people around him.

Since Soloq and TeamQ leaderboard is merged, people who has skilled people around him will always take higher position than you who only play soloQ even though you are extraordinary skilled soloq pvper. And I even saw that new system even matchs soloQ people to premade team of 2 or 3 or more.

Just don’t care leaderboard rank if you are soloq person. Anet started not caring solo users I guess.

hello. i won 4~5 games continuously becuz ironically i get more engis and eles, which are op class currently, than enemy team. thx anet. hope you always gives me more engi and ele teammate whenever i play soloq.

Sunshine.5014:

Kitt.2567:

i did it like, lb’s immobalize + 100b + fear me combo at 3000 power and 65% crit chance but only 75% of it correctly left dmg becuz he break stunned it. After this i saw his hp was around 60~70% of total hp, and he healed all them up shorty after this.

So you expect your one click of 100b should kill the ele? Didn’t 1 execution of 100b taking out 40% of the HP of a character already OP? Look at what the Ele had to do to react to yours. He/she had to waste a 75 seconds cooldown stun break on that, then use 2-3 healing skills to get to full HP again. You still have most of your skill and the 100b cooldown after a few seconds, while the Ele lost his only stun break—assuming they are using the meta Ele. Next time you combo again, just one 100b can give the ele big trouble.

i am not saying that only 1time 100b should kill ele. most people in dueling arena will break stun it. But i still would mostly win except ele or pu mes class becuz, The most problem for ele is that they heal much more than shout war or medi guardian, and they got too much protection buff skill, which shout war or medi guard do not have that much, as well as having good dmg. also they hace mobility skiills. if it isnt op why every1 claim ele?

I have been speending lot of times in dueling arena. Once I met one great cele ele. Well, I did 100b at 3000 power but you know what? 00266 trait ele doesnt get much dmg but also heals lot in pretty short time. i did it like, lb’s immobalize + 100b + fear me combo at 3000 power and 65% crit chance but only 75% of it correctly left dmg becuz he break stunned it. After this i saw his hp was around 60~70% of total hp, and he healed all them up shorty after this. i felt there isnt any solution upon this 00266 trait ele. they def need nerf. but it doesnt mean that only cele ele is op. (Ele itself using different amulet is also pretty op as much as pu mesmer) here is my op list of dueling : cele ele > ele = pu mesmer > dodge spam zerk thief = engi = terrormancer > guardian > warrior, ranger.

Ele is completely broken as long as i have felt so far 8n dueling arena. Ele and PU mesmer needs nerf, and buffing warrior and ranger is necessary. Others are fine. About engi, well, they are mostly OP in only small capping area, but in wide area like dueling arena provides, its fine. The problem is that turret remains eternally until some1 detroy them. turret need to have some duration that can only remain within its time, which means, a nerf a bit.

no cond dmg in GS or AXE. so go zerk.

well, its simple. if you look at win % of people, who plays more than 100 matchs, in both soloq and teamq. teamq there even is over 80% guys. But soloq is like 70%. When soloq and teamq merged with this fact, premade people definitely be higher than solo guys in merged leaderboard. you just need to better stop care of leaderboard anymore since merged. even though you were NA best soloqer who has over 70% winrate, but it isnt over 80%. so you will anyway be placed lower leaderboard rank than best teamq pvper.

what’s ur main class and its build?

Teutos.8620:

Glorious Hero’s armor was intended to be something special. Only really good players should be able to obtain it.

This now going to be changed:

For your efforts, we’ll be awarding a piece of Glorious Hero’s armor to the top 20 players on both the solo and team arena leaderboards.

This thread is to create awareness of the problem, and to QQ a bit about it. I hoped if more players participated in the SoloQ, this problem will not exist anymore the close we get to the patch, but unfortunately it still does.

On the following examples I’m going to show you some examples of people, who would get an armor piece if the cut was now (13:00 CET).

EU
Rank 1: peeterske.9134 with a total of 19 victories (last one on 8th of Jannuary).
Rank 2: sebeca.9465 with a total of 18 games played since end of April. (his first appearance on gw2score.com)
Rank 3: starguard.5028 Last victory on 23rd of April
Rank 4: Owii.9513 25 victories in total, 15 victories since the collecting of data.
Rank 12: deltratori.9350 Last victory 21th of December 2013!
Rank 21: just out of the cut: SovaBH.9652 a total of 13 victories
Rank 22: stancer.4085 Two matches since April.

NA
Rank 1: Aaron.2413 4 games since 30th of jannuary.
Rank 2: Remko.9801 last victory on 13th of June.
Rank 3: Meme.3894 4 games since September, played more frequently before.
Rank 4: SENA LEE.5389 total of 13 games.
Rank 5: kairitaro.4306 total of 12 games.
Rank 6: cmcmc.4179 only accounted for 3 games on gw2score.com
Rank 7: Mr Eighty Seven.5263 Last Victory on 10th of September.
Rank 8: SKnew.8612 5 games since June.
Rank 9: Lawtie.6531 Looks like 2 games since Jannuary.
Rank 10: ventusthunder.5067 Accounted for 5 games on gw2scorecom.

..no point in more examples…
We have no clue how many players are waiting out there, to play just their one game before the patch goes lives.

How is this problem generated?
To get placed into the leaderboard, you only have to play a total of 10 games, but only 1 game after the last leaderboard reset. During the first few games your glicko2-rating fluctuated so high, that after a small win streak, you get placed at the top of the ladder. You are not forced to continue to play, because the decay only effects your ladder position and not your rating.
If you continue to play, your glicko2-rating will decrease. Even after maintaining a high win rate and a high ladder position, you can not reach the same rating a player who has just stopped playing after his first win streak. This is due to the mechanic of the glicko2-rating system. Because if you are at the top of the leaderboard, your average team rating in a match will be beneath your own rating, and therefore your own rating will tend to decrease.

How to fix this problem?
Easiest solution: Don’t hand out any rewards for SoloQ.
Better Solution: Change the formular you are handing out rewards. Something like minimum games played this week; or spent more then 100 games in the top 100. Problem: If people would have known, they would have played for that goal, so not a perfect idea, to change the rules so close to the end.

Any better suggestion are welcome.

yup. all they have to do just play one more game on Dec 2th right before the update to get armpr stuff.

So I told anet to expand reward range for soloQ only but who is anet? they don’t listen to people, very stubborn lol

Personally, I would put Vassangel from dueling arena into Top #1 in my list of 1vs1 duel ranking. if you have had any chance of watching his play, some of you would agree with me. His play is just martial arts and his reaction and extraordinarily fast ever. Well, I saw and dueled many people in this list that OP posted, but I felt Vassangel is a bit better than most (cuz some Idk) of them in OP’s list. (if you don’t care class and build unbalances becuz it is anet’s fault but look at just personal skill & reaction, I would say he was best in those factors) idk. time has gone a lot since this guy don’t play. probly now people in OP would play better. Sad he doesn’t play in these days.

very nice to have glorious god-like top15 people!! cool!!!
but honestly, no one care since gw2 isn’t real esport game like LoL. it is mmorpg, just play casually man. There is not even a league like LoL offers to its programers with enormous rewards.

Sizer.5632:

Go back and reread the full thing. It says if you que alone you will be matched with others who are solo, unless its slow and no one is queing, then you might be matched against a premade but it will not affect your rank.

Reading comprehension is hard yo.

but man, there will be one leaderboard. you think people doing yoloqing can have more win percentage than 5 people premade team which has win percentage is like over 80%?

In NA, 70% is highest win percentage of people who have more than 200 soloq match.
but in teamq, there are tone of people having more than 80% win %. so i think it is kinda dead to people soloing since merged leaderboard there will be.

becuz even soloing and having 70% win percentage, it cannot be more than 80%, as they are displayed in one leaderboard.

In soloQ, there is no one whose average win% is higher than 70% and also played more than 200matchs in soloq. but in teamq there are tone of 80% win% players simply becuz they are kinda teamming up with good people only so making a monopoly wins. if leaderboard is merged into one, yeah, player who team up with people will always be higher than people who really doing well as solo. so teaming up becomes necessary…

glock.6590:

I think its the end of solo Q. forced to play in team or get destroyed by 5 man premade group.

yo bro, i hope so! becuz I rather team up with you rather than yoloqing haha yeah i agree with you anyway..

It says soloq and teamq will be merged, and there will be only one leaderbaord….
Then,
if I quque alone, I could be matched to party which is pre-made by 5 people? If lose, my rank decreases?

From your news, it says:

For your efforts, we’ll be awarding a piece of Glorious Hero’s armor to the top 20 players on both the solo and team arena leaderboards. The top 100 players on each leaderboard will also receive a mini llama. The cutoff time for the current leaderboards is 2 December. At that point, the new build goes live and we transition to the new system.

you know anet, people’s rank in soloq fluctuate a lot, becuz it is yoloq has too much luck factor (i would say 50% luck 50% skill)

For me, yeah, i hit the rank inside of top5 more than 3 times during past 5 months, but usually rotate rank within top100. because sometimes i play carelessly Becuz i love to drink and play and do chatting rather than playing. There is no point you reward only current top20 people. Personally, I was even be able to keep myself always within rank 20 by playing just one round per 2~3 days for more than a month before. i just found no point of doing it, so just stopped doing it, and played just alot as much as I wanted to play rather than one per 2~3 days. I think many top-tier soloq PvPer would do it (playing just lot as much as they wanted since realizing keeping soloq rank is meaningless) unless he is just very crazy at keeping high rank only. And that’s why people rotate certain range bracket a lot.

For soloq you have to reward all top100 people a piece of glorious armor, and reward all top200 people mini-malla. or just reward any1 who hit top20 once, you can get data from following website: gw2score.com/PvP

You will see a bunch of people, who haven’t played for a while since hitting high rank just once, playing only one match to get back to top position at the date you reward those things, which is definitely terrible.

Olba.5376:

Comparing anything to Kill Shot makes a very invalid comparison.

Pin Down was given a longer, flashier animation because it was too strong for how easy it was to land. If you want to land it, bait them dodges out of your enemies like a decent player.

i am not really comparing. i am jusy saying this pin-down become almost as easy as killshot to dodge. honestly, killshot is extremely easier though. but for decent dueler pindown is also extremely easy as killshot. both are not even problem for decent player to dodge them out.

if they decrease pin down cast time but animation and sound still exist, I am surely saying that it will be only a little bit harder to dodge, but is still dodgeable completely. it just need more fast reaction.

I tested it a lot with axe/sword-lb warrior by gamble dueling, he is pretty good dueler I guess. but he dodge pindown at around 80% of success rate. only 1 out of 5 did work.

Currently, Pin down cast time is too long, and its animation that emits white light when casting makes even easier to be dodged. Now, everybody can just simply dodge it, at lease people in dueling arena, yes, they can easily. I wouldn’t say to remove that emitting light animation, but with both 2 conditions, emitting light when casting and too slow cast time, makes it too easy to be dodged just like Rifle’s Killshot. One of them, emitting light or cast time, should be either decreased or removed.

hand-throwing grenade range is 1500 while warrior’s longbow or rifle range is only 1000~1200 and you say it is not op? they made your hand godly powerful than gun though? its op with turret in close fight, it is op in range fight with grenade. both are op, so op. If you deny it isnt op then what is op? gg

Username Mushhhh.7453
Character Mushhh
Server Jade Quarry
Names played with Mushhhh, Mushhh
sPvP info
sPvP rank 7
Personal best rank 3 (1 day, 1 hour ago)
Wins 29
Loses 48
Wins Percent 37.66%
Reached top1000 2013-11-27 11:21:56
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Ohmygod anet Are you kidding only me or all 60k soloq pvper? why don’t just exclude people having less than at least total 150 matchs from leaderboard?

hi. just wonder if there is dueling spot, area on wvw? i am in isle of janthir server… i think i am pretty much good player in spvp and also enjoy dueling in dueling arena of spvp. but not sure if there is in wvw?

Is there dueling spot for people of isle of janthir server, or, eotm?

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

Kitt.2567:

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

No, those “Titles” are for the veterans sPvP players who played back in that Qualifying Point Era that ended when Custom Arenas came out. If they were to implement those titles again it would have to be through some sort of League Division system, and different Titles that aren’t so easily acquired with these leader boards.Your suggestion is similar saying to give GW2 Players a way to get GW1 Titles through hitting a certain Achievement Point range which isn’t fair to those veterans who played GW1. I’m not against bringing these titles back, but the way they are achieved shouldn’t be so dependent on rank of the leaderboard.

I think most of players in these have almost same skill as them in these days. the only difference is just they started this game, or pvp content faster.

I understand what you’re saying, but giving those titles through these leaderboards isn’t the best way to go. They need some league division system, and leaderboards do not show skill at all. It’s kind of a kick to those old players face if you make these titles easy to obtain with no effort. Like I said i’m not against bringing these titles back. Most of the people who bear these titles barely play anymore, and if anything they should implement new titles. Like what they do with WvW Seasons, they have different titles each season for the achievements.

nah.. gw2 is not even pro esport game like league of legend or starcraft 2… just spread all the title out just like what they did on legendary champion title… they can make new title when this game becomes real pro esport game but it doesnt even seem to be. common, it is mmorpg that every 1 would do anything to grind for something.

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

No, those “Titles” are for the veterans sPvP players who played back in that Qualifying Point Era that ended when Custom Arenas came out. If they were to implement those titles again it would have to be through some sort of League Division system, and different Titles that aren’t so easily acquired with these leader boards.Your suggestion is similar saying to give GW2 Players a way to get GW1 Titles through hitting a certain Achievement Point range which isn’t fair to those veterans who played GW1. I’m not against bringing these titles back, but the way they are achieved shouldn’t be so dependent on rank of the leaderboard.

I think most of players in these have almost same skill as them in these days. the only difference is just they started this game, or pvp content earlier.

anet can you Just give “~~ of the Arena” title to any1 who at least once hit the rank required in either one of soloq or teamq?

League of Legends Moba style game mode with in-game instant shop like LoL with its leaderboard

eh i have more than 2000+ ranked arena rounds. in these days, warrior and mesmer are least played as long as i see in these days. there were lot of warriors before healing sig and adrenaline nerf patch.but now, no. mesmer were originally not that much populated from old days upto now. if i list by order list of class population in soloq,

Ele, necro, engi > thief, ranger > guardian >= warrior, mesmer

the best way to fix it is decreasing 4 times mmr point lose of the guy who left, as well as decreasing his gold by 4 times 25 silver, which is 1gold. Other who did participated lose nothing : both mmr and gold. why 4 times? he damaged other 4 people right?

is this achievable? lol

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

why you ask for www build in spvp section ? just take build from meta build website and dont ask silly questions .

where is web site

it seems that currently most of LB Top100 dps guardian people run gs/sword-focus build with 2/1/6/1/4 trait. But it has no scepter or staff that is problem for me. (i want to use it in wvw)

But do any1 have similarly powerful but ranged build?

Ralkuth.1456:

uberkingkong.8041:

Can someone list me all the skills that drop the orb.

Very irriating when I use a skill and all of a sudden the orb is dropped.

Guardian scepter 3, does that drop orb and focus 5 drops it right?
Any other skills? Does virtue 3 drop it?

They NEED to have skills highlighted that drop the orb. I shouldn’t have to memorize all skills that drop orb.

There are a very limited number of skills in this game anyway. Rogue probably have more skills than 3 professions combined…

Guardian:
Renewed Focus
Judge’s Intervention
Merciful Intervention

Warrior:
None

Engineer:
Elixir S
Throw Elixir S
Blast Finish: Area Stealth

Ranger:
Hunter’s Shot
Hide in Plain Sight

Thief:
Leap Finish: Stealth
Blast Finish: Area Stealth
Cloak and Dagger
Shadowstep
Infiltrator’s Arrow
Infiltrator’s Strike
Shadow Refuge
Blinding Powder
Last Refuge
Hidden Thief
Merciful Ambush

Mesmer:
Mass Invisibility
Decoy
Distortion
Blink
Portal
Veil

Necromancer:
Summon Flesh Wurm
Dark Path
? Spectral Walk

Elementalist:
Mist Form
Lightning Flash

By the way, you con summarise this list as all invulns and ports and stealths. Partial invulns like Endure Pain, Signet of Stone, or Berserker’s Stance, Elixir C lets you keep the Orb. Downed state makes you drop Orb, area stealths that hit you make you drop Orb. You can obviously use this in a coordinated fashion to pass it along.

No.. for warrior, rampage drops orb.

i juat want league of legend-like moba game mode.. this must include in-game instant shop selling perma boost item so it allow us to make KILLSTREAK. so super luck or bad luck things happening on yoloq never happens cuz really skilled player can lead his team to win, even in the situation like 4vs5 happened. And also with leaderboard of its game mode as well.

i dont think cond war can win turret engi or 00266 trait dd ele, it was already hard before torment nerf patch. it become almost impossible since torment nerf patch.

Einlanzer.1627:

I really feel like the Rifle is actually inferior to what it was before the change to Bleeding Shot, but I haven’t experimented extensively with it since yet.

Agree. even though current fierece shot has its dmg increased by 25%, but it has no bleeding dmg instead and the most problem of double adrenaline is that, it requires vulnerability, while brutal shot takes too long time and dmgs too small. most of warrior avoid using it since most of them have 5sec swap time decrease trait, usually rifle skill combos are done by (sometimes)killshot -> volley ->(if got closer)5th skill -> 2nd cripple shot. then swap is ready, dont even need to use 4th skill. or even though used it, there is no benefit from double adrenaline cuz swap is already ready right after using above combo and 4th skill, which i think bleeding was a lot better at least it remains on enemy long time and requires none. and current all adrenaline lose upon miss of elite skill made rifle completely kitten. did you test how hard it is to make killshot successfully hit anet… some people even reflects it not just block or dodge it.

isnt it already viable? i have seen few wars using this in soloq though. Personally never seen war using rifle or mace as secondary hand. i think some war focusing on small capping area uses mace though cuz it is strong weapon in close fight.

i think 2vs2 or 3vs3 with current map size and 3 capture points will only benefit people who only focus on dueling build rather than mobillity for rotation or support for bunker/healer.

while you casting volley, you stop shooting if enemy goes backside of your camera. I am not sure it ia bug or not but plz fix it cuz volley is only rifle skill that can safely leave dmg on enemy: killshot is too hard to make it hit, and 2nd and 4th skill has no dmg. It shouldnt be stopped that easily. thx