Guild Wars 2

Braxxus.2904:

Kronosfear.7548:

The warrior skill Throw Bola goes a whooping 4 second immobilize with an astonishing 20 second cooldown.

Not that I disagree with the basic premise of your post I just want to point out to you that throw bola almost never lands, can be strafed away from and suffers from terrible terrible pathing issues. There’s a reason why most warriors don’t use it anymore (we’d like to, but it’s bad). Other than that yeah you do have a point about setting up moves, but the OP is correct when he talks about the pathing being pretty bad for most of the warrior ‘leap/charge’ style moves.

Just ask anyone about Rush, bullscharge, sword2 leaps going wonky.

Edit: Also, noone here is disagreeing that engi’s could use some love btw but warriors are still hurting in a few major areas. Guard/Mes/Thief/Ele are all shining paragons of amazing class capability. Ranger/Necro are good, but not in the top tier like the above four and engi’s and warriors are in the “need some fundamental fixes” tier.

Ahh, my bad on the points you cleared out. Thanks.

I have a warrior alt that I got to 80 last month. Switched back to my main after I got bored. To clear up:

I thought that if something does not work (i.e. miss), you’d always have something up your sleeve to compensate. I agree on the points that leap skill pathing should be improved because I, too, understand the frustration of having a secured kill only to miss because of issues stated at the OP. This does affect warrior playstyle as it gives a feeling of hesitation whether or not the said leap skill will land. And we all know warriors should not be hesitating.

Cheers

More on the graphic design point of view:

How will we be using it as a kit?

Do I:

A. pick it up and make some dances?
B. have the turret as a shoulder-mounted device (like those things you see in gunkittenhemed animes)?
C. transform the turrent into a bad kitten weapon?

I’m having doubts about this, since by definition, turrets are a “mechanism of a rotating projectile-firing weapon platform”. Either change the name or change the theme.

Engineer says hi.

And that “miss… miss… miss…”???

My flamethrower says hi, too.

Greeting over —-——————————————

I’ll start by saying you’re probably not alone in feeling that way towards a warrior. But the REST of the community (and I mean a whole bunch of them) would tend to disagree.

Okay, so your problem is the leap skills and the leap skills only. I suppose that’s the point: relying on the leap skills only. Play again. You know that the opponent moves around a lot. Most people would probably:

A. Gain swiftness boon
B. Use control skills, with the inclusion of cripple/immobilize
C. Go ranged.

Who does not want swiftness boon? Everybody wants swiftness boon.

So, there was a statement in your post that said “you’ll have to wait until your immobilize, cripple or kd move is back up again”. The warrior skill Throw Bola goes a whooping 4 second immobilize with an astonishing 20 second cooldown. In this regard, the 4 second immobilize is MORE THAN ENOUGH for a single leap skill to land.

Should the immobilize fail (evaded) or it was removed by condition removals, the next option is to go ranged. It will help keep the pressure on while your other skills are on cooldown.

And with the mention of Rush, I assume this is the Greatsword skill, which happens to favor mobile playstyle with its two gap closers, namely Skill 3 and 5. If it is the Bull Rush skill, it catches the opponent ever so that the chances of it missing is still low.

And a final word: Remove your statement “we just seem so useless compared pretty much every other class…”. It may be your opinion but you’d definitely draw fire in this forums.

is it the damage of the single grenade, or the total damage of the two (three if traited) grenades that hit the same target? It hits hard(er) for me still.

I still use grenadier build. Even more so now that the condition damage from my weapon/s provide the big plus on the bleed and poison grenades. The attack

The 100nades build!

I just farmed for that build! (Not the exact build per se, but a variant of it)

Definitely 100nades! I’ll just spend long hours farming again for another WvW build!

And I’ll probably only cry for 12 hours!

:(

Lysico.4906:

I would say

Human
Sylvarian
Asuran
Norn
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Charr

Go away, meat. The Iron Legion rules!

Last time I felt like an engineer was in real life, and that’s saying something, because I’m an architect… -__-

Travail.7390:

Maybe if I had a little screen where I had to “craft” my explosives and elixirs, like WoW Rogues craft poisons, that might help. I’d then be periodically reminded that these are “my” explosives and elixirs, made by my own hand.

I like that idea. I admit the first thing I thought of was that our ammo/grenades/bombs/elixirs would have to be limited but with the plus side of being more potent.

So I thought I’d put my two cents and tweak that feature exlusive to the toolbelt skills. To expand on my concerns, in a long-drawn fight like a WvW, we’d be the only class that says “hold up guys, I’m stocking up” resulting in unwanted stares from other people.

Making this revolve around toolbelt lets you still unload a bunch of grenades without worries about your ammo stores. You’d still be effective as such in terms of weapon skills, and it would in turn make people invest in toolbelt skills that are now more potent since YOU made them yourself.

Well, that’s just me.

Don’t worry. He’s like that.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Best-Warrior-Healing-Skill/

BlindedPeace.8736:

Woah, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, after looking into my traits I decided to go with the medkit. Don’t know why I didn’t think of it sooner, lol.

As for rocket boots with stability, you don’t fly off and you don’t get self-cc’d. I love having a guardian around for that.

I agree that mines are a little awkward to use. They have fantastic damage output (least the toolbelt skill), but the randomness kills me. I’ve yet to try the battering ram, though. Might synergize well with the flamethrower, cause that knock-back shouldn’t obstruct the #2.

Edit: Forgot to mention, you can get stability from Elixer S’ toolbelt skill (if it makes you giant). Not sure if being tiny will negate the cc or not, but you won’t need a stunbreak then anyway.

If you’d persist with rocket boots, try getting Alchemy VI – Protection Injection and see if the knockback from the rocket boots will trigger the protection. Though I don’t see it being viable, at least it’s something for you to test.

coglin.1496:

Only an engineer can use a battering ram on a person and not a keep door.

… because it’s a *Person*al Battering Ram…

…

Get it?

Person?

Hahahahahahaha!

Hahaha…

Hah…

-__-

Mending, Endure Pain, Shake it off, Bull Rush, Signet of Rage

+ Lyssa runes for the win (stun breakers + no conditions. hah)

Evalia.7103:

You just keep proving yourself how narrow your build is.
It’s pointless defending something that way.

Hey everyone! I’m running a Hammer/GS build which I currently find entertaining in PvAll-You-People!

Screw me, right?

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Kronosfear.7548:

Anyone tried having a Stability boon, and then use Rocket Boots?

Will it turn to a backward leap (like a reverse Rifle 5) or will the knockback effect persist?

Presumably you won’t move at all, like Overcharged Shot during Stability.

Well if a similar situation is put forth, then perhaps the same would apply to Rocket Boots. Thanks.

I guess that’s another awkward skill for an engineer that has just been made more awkward than before.

Anyone tried having a Stability boon, and then use Rocket Boots?

Will it turn to a backward leap (like a reverse Rifle 5) or will the knockback effect persist?

Hi. Before I begin, pardon some hesitation on my part to comment since I myself have not put forth any builds on the forums and therefore feel… a little bit noobish.

First off, utilizing Rocket Boots just for the Rocket Kick (with emphasis on Rocket Kick) is probably a reason in practice that this particular gadget is underused. That’s already a skill slot unused and by extension makes Speedy Gadgets pointless. We both understand the depressing downside of Rocket Boots (breaks a 2 second stun with a 4 second knock back. Whoop-de-doo).

Goggles are a little awkward. To optimize its use, I’d have to get stunned first and only then will I enjoy the benefits of fury and blind immunity. The good side is the toolbelt skill Analyze. Such a situation falls under the same argument as the previous paragraph.

I believe these are the reasons why gadgets are under used. They can be used in PvE, where mobs are single-minded and predictable, but not as much as you’d hope they’d prove to be effective.

Perhaps you could figure out how to fit in the other gadgets in your build. To be specific, Personal Battering Ram and Throw Mine. They both have nice cooldowns and a definite crowd control at your disposal. Their toolbelt counterparts are also good.

Happy playing.

Chi Malady.2015:

You need to have more than one source of damage. Volley isn’t strong enough to carry all the damage (4-5k on non-glass cannons with a balanced build of your own). Auto hits for about 300-400 damage per hit, and brutal shot for about 1k. These are very low numbers, and the rifle doesn’t have much utility outside of damage. 5 stacks of vulnerability is decent, but not game-changing (I’d much prefer an interrupt). The best ability by far on the rifle is aimed shot with leg specialist. It’s great for slowing fleeing targets.

You can hit a bit harder with glass cannon, but the warrior doesn’t have any escapes so glass cannon builds aren’t an option in tPvP.

There is a reason why no top teams run rifle warrior in tPvP. It simply doesn’t have enough utility to compensate for its lack of damage.

Not sure about escapes. Warriors have the capacity to have enough endurance for a crucial dodge (cheers to trait Strength-15 and Signet of Stamina, but few builds use signets so this one’s up for debate), has a lot of condition removals and stun breakers, and (in theory) would compensate for the lack of health by being mobile at most times. The concern now remains if it would be worth the trade to be a glass cannon (is the added damage effective enough to compensate for the loss of effective HP?).

The way it appeared to me is that Rifle playstyle never meant for you to have that much utility in exchange for a (believed) higher damage output on a single target. Now if we’re gonna give the rifle what you asked, something else has to go as compensation.

And I don’t think I’m alone in saying that I don’t want that to happen.

Very charrming, you gladiums.

My engineer is so bad he pulls foes to let them insta-STOMP him for absolutely free!

Only an engineer could run out of ideas for an Elite… so it had to copy from others.

Only an engineer could make a tranquilizer dart sound like a wet sneeze.

Only a Charr engineer, for some bizarre reason, has a requirement to be near the target area to call a barrage of large missiles despite the fact that it could be sent to any distance across the continent.

And still, only a Charr engineer would ever put an explosive charge on itself to be triggered by a melee attack.

Only a Norn engineer could ever consider eating as a toolbelt “skill”.

well the borderlands are too quiet it actually serves for 1 v 1 fights now

By that thought, we’re also supposed to get an aqua based weapon to match the land-aqua weapon pairing of most classes (meaning if a melee land weapon is made available to a profession, there’s a corresponding melee aqua weapon for it, same with ranged).

I’m not saying no. I’m just putting it on the table for thoughts.

Oooh, one with a story.
Give you 9/10 for that.

Mine is:
Yoda I am not.

Kinda lame, I know. But there’s a story to it. When I rolled an asura, I got bored by the conventional race/profession pairings (i.e. norn are hunters, charr are straight-on warlike, sylvari are nature/life lovers, and asura are brains over brawn type of guys). So I rolled him into a warrior. As a joke, I wanted to name him Yoda, but can’t.

So it’s Yoda I am not.

I actually made a background story around such a name.

My name. Well I remember it.
Years pass. Training of padawans I have done. A long time, it seemed.
Fighting for peace, compassion and life, I did so.
Embrace the sleep and the Force, ready, I was.

However, cut short eternal slumber was for me.
Shrouded in Mists, I was awoken.
Save the Force, my new duty is.
From those that consume the Force itself.

Yoda. I am not.
No longer shall I carry that name.
Strange and hostile this new world is, fear I do not feel.
For my ally is the Force, and such a powerful ally it is.

Bah. Nit-pick at your own pleasure.

Absolutionis.9427:

Engineers are not supposed to be viable. They’re supposed to be fun.

Giving the Engineer’s skills to other classes allows them to be fun while also remaining viable.

And that’s where the skies get darker for an engineer. It feels as if our signatures are being stolen and improved upon without receiving such benefits on ours (save for buying them yourself).

It’s those kits that set us apart. Probably the only thing left (turrets are meh and elixirs are troll), and it’s being mass produced for all others to copy. Which is sad, if I haven’t made that clear, a direct contrast to the claim that “Engineers are supposed to be fun”.

Ahh, one of my favorite weapon kits. I favor this kit more than Flamethrower since seeing a bunch of “miss, miss, miss, miss, miss…” in quick succession is very demoralizing.

As adviced above, elixir gun isn’t meant to be a hard hitter. It sorta does the opposite by making your opponents hit softer (cheers to weakness), move slower and all in all make you an annoying foe to face against. Try to make your build around that concept.

Pistol/Shield is a good weapon to hold. It gives conditions that elixir gun alone couldn’t dish out.

If I may, I’d like to suggest this build found in this very forum.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/The-TANKCAT-build-Prybar-some-faces

Make minor tweaks to accompany the elixir gun, but generally follow the concept formed by the build’s author.

My rifleCAT is taking a small break watching my warrior reap the benefits he wouldn’t have been able to do by himself.

After reading some builds, I might use my engineer once real life stops being demanding.

Kazin.2073:

I don’t get it. Rifle 1 with a bleed spec is the highest single target ranged dps in the game. Whats the problem?

With my build and gear I do 3.4k damage per shot. (Direct damage and bleed damage included)

Engineer begs to differ.

Aside from said comparison, you’re right in saying that warrior rifle is fine as it is. It hurts big time as it is. I, however, never really saw it as a skillset that “controls”, only huge damage (cheers to Kill Shot).

Chi Malady.2015:

The rifle currently does an abysmal 155 with the auto-attack.

If you’re using warrior rifle, don’t go wishing that it should have come along with more. It already has functions which are similar to CC/Escape (2 and 5) plus a high damage (KS, 3, 4, with the last one as a reason for higher damage than being a source of damage itself). So don’t go relying on your auto-attack. It wasn’t meant to be the main dish anyway.

Ferg is defending it’s borderlands so tenaciously I’ve been reduced to dolyak hunting.

And I believe I was invited by someone in DR to have a ganking party. I refused, and for good measure: Not 5 minutes have passed after walking out of the gates when they were shut down by Ferg right smack on the entrance, just well away from our veteran defender’s range. I couldn’t sneak out of our own gates for an hour.

Kudos to you guys. Will play with you people again after work.

Valorwing.2865:

I will just leave these right here…

ooooh yeah. that was sweet.

11 golems plus one alpha golem. damnQQ!! hahaha