Guild Wars 2

Lauren did say in the main thread that they are aware of the OOM issues and are looking into it, but no ETA.

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

Hello, checking in with everyone. I have a few updates to share. There will be more later but I wanted to hit these first:

Rally to Maguuma – Stuck
We know there’s another issue around the mission and are actively tracking this bug. We have had some reports that the following might fix the problem:

• Zone out of the Silverwastes and back in (to PVP or to Dry Top, etc).
• Change your active story step in the Journal and then back again.

OOM crashes

• Please continue to send your crash reports via the in game crash reporter with details about what you were doing and your system specs.
• The in game reporter is the best way to report crashes as they go directly to the programming team.

Scout Acan

• This issue is being tracked.
• We have some reports that Acan only is broken on some megaserver instances.

Story Mission 14 – Sign Cutting

• Itzel Poison Lore was removed as a requirement.
• If you are still stuck please zone out to another map, such as PvP or Lion’s Arch, and then come back.

Thank you for the update. Looking forward to the fix for the OOM issue. I’ve seen a fair share here on 64-bit systems, so it’s not just the 32-bit issue.

Just to be clear, I’m not promising fixes – or even fixes on a timeline, even though a great many of the items I comment on on the forums do get fixed decently quick. I make sure our issues are tracked and escalated to the proper people and then I get my board with nails in it out.

A lot of the things I don’t comment on get fixed too but we would need 3 of me to be able to respond to all posts all the time.

ok now brb finding some wood to knock on to avoid the jinx…

I know you’re not promising fixes, but the simple fact that they are aware that it’s not just 32-bit OS Potatoes and it’s happening to some 64-bit systems and they are looking probably makes a lot of us feel better.

It’s complex code, it’s all linked, and I doubt the teams intention was to suddenly lock a lot of low to mid end machines out of the game.

Thanks, just keep us posted if they got anything incoming or we can try specific things in game on our end to help them test.

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

Hello, checking in with everyone. I have a few updates to share. There will be more later but I wanted to hit these first:

Rally to Maguuma – Stuck
We know there’s another issue around the mission and are actively tracking this bug. We have had some reports that the following might fix the problem:

• Zone out of the Silverwastes and back in (to PVP or to Dry Top, etc).
• Change your active story step in the Journal and then back again.

OOM crashes

• Please continue to send your crash reports via the in game crash reporter with details about what you were doing and your system specs.
• The in game reporter is the best way to report crashes as they go directly to the programming team.

Scout Acan

• This issue is being tracked.
• We have some reports that Acan only is broken on some megaserver instances.

Story Mission 14 – Sign Cutting

• Itzel Poison Lore was removed as a requirement.
• If you are still stuck please zone out to another map, such as PvP or Lion’s Arch, and then come back.

Thank you for the update. Looking forward to the fix for the OOM issue. I’ve seen a fair share here on 64-bit systems, so it’s not just the 32-bit issue.

Still the OOM issue, but a half hour uptime as opposed to 5-10 minutes this time. It’s an improvement.

Still showing that bug with the auto-loot checked yet greyed out when I don’t have the Mastery. Log attached and sent in.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Still getting OOM issues on the same system that ran the game FINE before the XPAC.

See attached.

Was hoping the day to work on would help. Looks like the ‘fix’ is still, “Buy a new machine, peasant!”

ATTN CRASH DEPUTY — Now LA makes me crash too?

If the expansion makes the core game unplayable, do I get a bloody refund?

This is stupid. I could play ANYWHERE without these constant crashes until the XPAC. FIX THIS!

The answer is not telling me to turn down my settings! They are as low as they go! Put culling back or give us a max draw distance option to cut back on memory use! I am not the only person having this problem, and while the majority of us that are have 32-bit OS, some of these OOM reports in this tread (and on reddit) are 64-bit systems with 8 GB or less RAM.

Report attached, again.

The next crash I get is when I go to Customer Service to demand a refund and my review of the XPAC on Amazon will not be favorable. This is insane that new maps break the rest of the game for me.

With the issues of the auto-loot mastery, I noticed this and wondered if it might be linked to the OOM issue for 32-bit machines.

On the character select screen, no auto-loot shows. However, when in game, even though I do not have the mastery, it shows checked yet grayed out, so I can not uncheck it or interact with it. See attached.

Maybe this is why so many OOM crashes on 32-bit machine that used to be able to run this game? Anyone else with OOM crashes seeing this in options?

Quick reply to attach shot of character select screen where I don’t have this bug showing.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Still getting OOM issues on the same system that ran the game FINE before the XPAC.

See attached.

Was hoping the day to work on would help. Looks like the ‘fix’ is still, “Buy a new machine, peasant!”

ATTN CRASH DEPUTY — Now LA makes me crash too?

If the expansion makes the core game unplayable, do I get a bloody refund?

This is stupid. I could play ANYWHERE without these constant crashes until the XPAC. FIX THIS!

The answer is not telling me to turn down my settings! They are as low as they go! Put culling back or give us a max draw distance option to cut back on memory use! I am not the only person having this problem, and while the majority of us that are have 32-bit OS, some of these OOM reports in this tread (and on reddit) are 64-bit systems with 8 GB or less RAM.

Report attached, again.

The next crash I get is when I go to Customer Service to demand a refund and my review of the XPAC on Amazon will not be favorable. This is insane that new maps break the rest of the game for me.

With the issues of the auto-loot mastery, I noticed this and wondered if it might be linked to the OOM issue for 32-bit machines.

On the character select screen, no auto-loot shows. However, when in game, even though I do not have the mastery, it shows checked yet grayed out, so I can not uncheck it or interact with it. See attached.

Maybe this is why so many OOM crashes on 32-bit machine that used to be able to run this game? Anyone else with OOM crashes seeing this in options?

DjGriffon.8461:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Still getting OOM issues on the same system that ran the game FINE before the XPAC.

See attached.

Was hoping the day to work on would help. Looks like the ‘fix’ is still, “Buy a new machine, peasant!”

ATTN CRASH DEPUTY — Now LA makes me crash too?

If the expansion makes the core game unplayable, do I get a bloody refund?

This is stupid. I could play ANYWHERE without these constant crashes until the XPAC. FIX THIS!

The answer is not telling me to turn down my settings! They are as low as they go! Put culling back or give us a max draw distance option to cut back on memory use! I am not the only person having this problem, and while the majority of us that are have 32-bit OS, some of these OOM reports in this tread (and on reddit) are 64-bit systems with 8 GB or less RAM.

Report attached, again.

The next crash I get is when I go to Customer Service to demand a refund and my review of the XPAC on Amazon will not be favorable. This is insane that new maps break the rest of the game for me.

After 14 emails with tech support I was told that the OOM crashes that I was having dealt with me having windows 32bit OS, and that if i wanted to fix it I either had to remove some of the RAM in my computer to allow for the overlap in the amount of RAM between my processor and my video card because the 32bit system could not handle this.

I expressed my concerns that nowhere in the Minimum system requirements did it say anything about the differences between 32 or 64 bit OS. I was told that there was a disclaimer at the bottom of the page that these requirements could change at any time.

Now had I known there was going to be an issue with my system not working on the 32bit OS then I would not have paid the $99 for the upgrade. because silly me i thought that my quad core 2.33 processor and my 4gb of ram and my GT540 video card would be enough to handle this game like it has been over the last 2+ years that the game has been out.

I agree. That is why I posted a review to Amazon warning people with 32-bit systems away from the purchase.

Maybe if we hit their wallet, they will actually optimize the engine.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Still getting OOM issues on the same system that ran the game FINE before the XPAC.

See attached.

Was hoping the day to work on would help. Looks like the ‘fix’ is still, “Buy a new machine, peasant!”

ATTN CRASH DEPUTY — Now LA makes me crash too?

If the expansion makes the core game unplayable, do I get a bloody refund?

This is stupid. I could play ANYWHERE without these constant crashes until the XPAC. FIX THIS!

The answer is not telling me to turn down my settings! They are as low as they go! Put culling back or give us a max draw distance option to cut back on memory use! I am not the only person having this problem, and while the majority of us that are have 32-bit OS, some of these OOM reports in this tread (and on reddit) are 64-bit systems with 8 GB or less RAM.

Report attached, again.

The next crash I get is when I go to Customer Service to demand a refund and my review of the XPAC on Amazon will not be favorable. This is insane that new maps break the rest of the game for me.

Still getting OOM issues on the same system that ran the game FINE before the XPAC.

See attached.

Was hoping the day to work on would help. Looks like the ‘fix’ is still, “Buy a new machine, peasant!”

I went to bed last night hoping I’d wake to a fix for our OOM crashes. Instead, no new fixes, but a LOT more posts about OOM.

I guess the real fix is, “Get a new rig, peasant.”

So, I will not be playing any new content, or much at all, for the next two months or more, and ANet will not be getting any extra money for Gems out of me because now that money has to go to a new computer.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

ohhh emmm geee some little bird just told me a hotfix is coming asappppppp

ecks

dee

I’ll give it a try again. But I never had these problems with the old card until today.

And…. another OOM crash, at LOWEST SETTINGS. This time leaving VB, but again, the common threads seem to be VB.

If I could turn off OTHER PLAYERS I would.

Sent in and attached.

Above I see more having same OOM problem, with even better hardware.

Just for dice and giggles I’m going to revert to the original integrated ATI Radeon HD3200 card… and post that error report.

Might want to get all these to the Incident Team. And this IS an incident.

It took longer, but as expected, BOOM goes the Brink!

Report attached.

My first crash not in the Brink.

Got tired of waiting on them to fix this, figured, “Hey, I can do the Mad King’s Labyrinth, it worked fine last year.”

NOPE. NO GAME FOR YOU!!!

So, now, the content I did last year, ON THE EXACT SAME HARDWARE, now crashes. This same OOM plague that is affecting so many of us with Lower to Middle systems. Because of this expansion.

Would have been nice to know that it was not kitten to $100 expansion, it was a $700-800 dollar expansion, including the new rig you have to apparently have to run it.

Might as well uninstall at this point and go play [PROTOTYPE 2] on the ol Xbox… who ever expected THAT to be the stable system?

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

ohhh emmm geee some little bird just told me a hotfix is coming asappppppp

ecks

dee

I’ll give it a try again. But I never had these problems with the old card until today.

And…. another OOM crash, at LOWEST SETTINGS. This time leaving VB, but again, the common threads seem to be VB.

If I could turn off OTHER PLAYERS I would.

Sent in and attached.

Above I see more having same OOM problem, with even better hardware.

Just for dice and giggles I’m going to revert to the original integrated ATI Radeon HD3200 card… and post that error report.

Might want to get all these to the Incident Team. And this IS an incident.

It took longer, but as expected, BOOM goes the Brink!

Report attached.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

ohhh emmm geee some little bird just told me a hotfix is coming asappppppp

ecks

dee

I’ll give it a try again. But I never had these problems with the old card until today.

And…. another OOM crash, at LOWEST SETTINGS. This time leaving VB, but again, the common threads seem to be VB.

If I could turn off OTHER PLAYERS I would.

Sent in and attached.

Above I see more having same OOM problem, with even better hardware.

Just for dice and giggles I’m going to revert to the original integrated ATI Radeon HD3200 card… and post that error report.

Might want to get all these to the Incident Team. And this IS an incident.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

ohhh emmm geee some little bird just told me a hotfix is coming asappppppp

ecks

dee

I’ll give it a try again. But I never had these problems with the old card until today.

And…. another OOM crash, at LOWEST SETTINGS. This time leaving VB, but again, the common threads seem to be VB.

If I could turn off OTHER PLAYERS I would.

Sent in and attached.

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

ohhh emmm geee some little bird just told me a hotfix is coming asappppppp

ecks

dee

I’ll give it a try again. But I never had these problems with the old card until today.

Kylden Ar.3724:

SynzGates.2860:

I got disconnected every 3min aprox
I always play in mid quality, now i tried to play in lowest, but it’s the same
i have an nvidia gtx780ti, an i3 processor, 4gb Ram DDR3

That’s the same problem I have with effectively 2x the hardware. And memory.

This is NOT A MEMORY ISSUE.

It is only happening in Verdant Brink.

It is a problem with the coding of the zone.

And again. Played in WvW for an hour, no problem, try to travel to VB, and boom, crash.

SynzGates.2860:

I got disconnected every 3min aprox
I always play in mid quality, now i tried to play in lowest, but it’s the same
i have an nvidia gtx780ti, an i3 processor, 4gb Ram DDR3

That’s the same problem I have with effectively 2x the hardware. And memory.

This is NOT A MEMORY ISSUE.

It is only happening in Verdant Brink.

It is a problem with the coding of the zone.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Ok, we are now to the point where this happens almost every 2 minutes in Verdant Brink. The expansion is virtually unplayable for me.

Any word on a fix or a refund? This is kinda bad.

Kylden will you submit your next crash report via the crash reporter and leave a comment such as “Attn Crash Deputy” with a brief description of what you were doing. Please also include your in game name and your email in case they need additional information.

No problem. Now that I’m done with dinner, I can try again.

Per your PM, my settings are already pretty much at ‘Potato’, but I’ll see if I can lower anything else. The only other option I got is using my GeForce GTS250 card, but I swapped that back out because it was crashing with GW2 as well when I installed it about 5 or 6 months back, and that was a “I’m on a 32-bit system” problem unless you guys have fixed that in the meantime…

Told you. About 2 minutes in. Report sent per instructions.

And again after swapping in the larger GeForce GTS250, same kind of crash. In the best performance (lowest) settings.

I, and other here, should not have to go out and get another $750 of hardware to run this game we just paid $50-$100 for. If your testers are running on low end rig and not crashing, then you need to figure out the difference between them and us, FAST.

Kylden Ar.3724:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Ok, we are now to the point where this happens almost every 2 minutes in Verdant Brink. The expansion is virtually unplayable for me.

Any word on a fix or a refund? This is kinda bad.

Kylden will you submit your next crash report via the crash reporter and leave a comment such as “Attn Crash Deputy” with a brief description of what you were doing. Please also include your in game name and your email in case they need additional information.

No problem. Now that I’m done with dinner, I can try again.

Per your PM, my settings are already pretty much at ‘Potato’, but I’ll see if I can lower anything else. The only other option I got is using my GeForce GTS250 card, but I swapped that back out because it was crashing with GW2 as well when I installed it about 5 or 6 months back, and that was a “I’m on a 32-bit system” problem unless you guys have fixed that in the meantime…

Told you. About 2 minutes in. Report sent per instructions.

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

Kylden Ar.3724:

Ok, we are now to the point where this happens almost every 2 minutes in Verdant Brink. The expansion is virtually unplayable for me.

Any word on a fix or a refund? This is kinda bad.

Kylden will you submit your next crash report via the crash reporter and leave a comment such as “Attn Crash Deputy” with a brief description of what you were doing. Please also include your in game name and your email in case they need additional information.

No problem. Now that I’m done with dinner, I can try again.

Per your PM, my settings are already pretty much at ‘Potato’, but I’ll see if I can lower anything else. The only other option I got is using my GeForce GTS250 card, but I swapped that back out because it was crashing with GW2 as well when I installed it about 5 or 6 months back, and that was a “I’m on a 32-bit system” problem unless you guys have fixed that in the meantime…

Ok, we are now to the point where this happens almost every 2 minutes in Verdant Brink. The expansion is virtually unplayable for me.

Any word on a fix or a refund? This is kinda bad.

Kylden Ar.3724:

I have crashed over 10 times in 2 hours of play.

So far only happens in the Brink. Here is the last crash report —-

—> Crash <—
OOM: Heap, bytes=40740564,
App: Gw2.exe
Pid: 2696
Cmdline:
BaseAddr: 00370000
ProgramId: 101
Build: 54517
When: 2015-10-23T16:53:01Z 2015-10-23T12:53:01-04:00
Uptime: 0 days 0:16:28
Flags: 0

—> System <—
Name: OPSCON1-PC
IpAddr: 192.168.1.4
Processors: 2 [AuthenticAMD:15:11:2]
OSVersion: Windows 6.1 (32 bit)

—> System Memory <—
Physical: 981MB/ 3071MB 31%
Paged: 3473MB/ 6140MB 56%
Virtual: 180MB/ 2047MB 8%
Load: 68%
CommitTotal: 2667MB
CommitLimit: 6140MB
CommitPeak: 2832MB
SystemCache: 1011MB
HandleCount: 18362
ProcessCount: 65
ThreadCount: 778

—> Process Memory <—
Private: 1357MB
WorkingSet: 1223MB
PeakWorkingSet: 1346MB
PageFaults: 2898803

—> Memory Category Usage (Inclusive) <—
[Category] [Size(MB)] [Count]
Root 402.05 339115
Programmer Data 299.78 203198
VRAM 173.95 17827
Game 135.22 106828
Content 96.48 37301
Engine 95.43 81270
Gr 69.50 58455
VRAM – Gr Postproc 64.85 18
Art Assets 50.37 883
Collections 47.23 3417
Dictionary 46.17 504
Uncategorized 45.73 134884
Character Models 44.63 153
Composite Models 40.05 141
Composite Tex 39.89 138
Composite Tex Pool 39.89 138
VRAM – DirectX Geo Buffers 30.56 1520
Text 28.16 4062
VRAM – UI Textures 24.27 630
VRAM – DDI Shader 23.20 15490
Audio 21.77 5706
VRAM – Gr Geometry 19.30 128
I/O 12.39 330
Archive 11.20 38

—> Memory Category Usage (Exclusive) <—
[Category] [Size(MB)] [Count]
Content 96.48 37301
VRAM – Gr Postproc 64.85 18
Dictionary 46.17 504
Uncategorized 45.73 134884
Composite Tex Pool 39.89 138
Gr 38.09 651
VRAM – DirectX Geo Buffers 30.56 1520
Text 28.16 4062
VRAM – UI Textures 24.27 630
VRAM – DDI Shader 23.20 15490
VRAM – Gr Geometry 19.30 128
Audio 11.67 938
Archive 11.20 38
Audio FMOD 10.11 4768
Gr Umbra 8.96 1200
Gr Cloud 8.69 17805
Collide Havok 6.18 150
Gr Model 4.94 9040
Character Packfile 4.58 12
Anim Import Packfile 4.53 15
Composite 4.49 535
Gr Font 4.06 256
Debugging 4.00 2
Game Animation 3.91 41224

[DbgHelp.dll is C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll]
[DbgHelp.dll version 6.1.7601.17514 (64/32-bit compatible)]

—> ClientContextThreadProc Thread 0xb6c <—

—> Trace <—
Pc:0067d99f Fr:0562fbf4 Rt:009b97a5 Arg:00000000 00000000 0139127c 00000204
Pc:009b97a5 Fr:0562fc88 Rt:009b8eea Arg:026da6d4 04187410 04187410 0562fcb4
Pc:009b8eea Fr:0562fc9c Rt:009b3dc4 Arg:00000010 00000010 00000010 0434d010
Pc:009b3dc4 Fr:0562fcb4 Rt:009b5799 Arg:00000010 0562fd40 0686dab8 0434d054
Pc:009b5799 Fr:0562fce4 Rt:009b81df Arg:3c670f56 0082bb63 0434d010 0434d460
Pc:009b81df Fr:0562fd8c Rt:00829aee Arg:0434d010 00000002 00000002 00000010
Pc:00829aee Fr:0562fe08 Rt:0082acf2 Arg:4708cb49 01d10db3 693e739a 00000001
Pc:0082acf2 Fr:0562fe48 Rt:008292c1 Arg:03ff2d30 020f8360 0067f048 00000000
Pc:008292c1 Fr:0562fe68 Rt:007cfd70 Arg:03ff2d30 693e7372 00000000 020f8360
Pc:007cfd70 Fr:0562fea0 Rt:007cfe98 Arg:00000000 0562feb8 7799ee6c 020f8360
Pc:007cfe98 Fr:0562feac Rt:7799ee6c Arg:020f8360 0562fef8 77843ab3 020f8360
Pc:7799ee6c Fr:0562feb8 Rt:77843ab3 Arg:020f8360 7381da99 00000000 00000000
Pc:77843ab3 Fr:0562fef8 Rt:77843a86 Arg:007cfe1c 020f8360 00000000 00000000
Pc:77843a86 Fr:0562ff10 Rt:00000000 Arg:007cfe1c 020f8360 00000000 00000000

—> Thread registers <—
eax=0562f768 ebx=0562fbb0 ecx=0139127c edx=0562fbb0 esi=7798f26a edi=00000000
eip=0067d99f esp=0562fb8c ebp=0562fbf4
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246

eax-32 0562F748 00000000 00000004 fffffd34 000002e4
eax-16 0562F758 fffffd34 000002cc 00000018 00000000
eax 0 0562F768 80000003 00000000 00000000 75aa812f
eax16 0562F778 00000000 66c051f4 ffffffff 5b4136a8
eax+32 0562F788 00000001 380010fc ffffffff 650039ac
eax+48 0562F798 ffffffff 60c13be8 ffffffff 5bc067f0
ebx-32 0562FB90 0139127c 00000204 00000000 04187ba8
ebx-16 0562FBA0 30be9e60 00000000 00000000 00000003
ebx 0 0562FBB0 70616548 7962202c 3d736574 34373034
ebx16 0562FBC0 34363530 000ecb00 000ecbbf 0562fbf4
ebx+32 0562FBD0 00783ba5 00000000 0562fc90 0562fbf0
ebx+48 0562FBE0 04187bac 0562fc90 00000000 00000000
ecx-32 0139125C 009ba4c0 006f0057 006c0072 00200064
ecx-16 0139126C 0061004d 00200070 00650054 00000078
ecx 0 0139127C 2e5c2e2e 2e2e5c2e 6d61475c 69565c65
ecx16 0139128C 445c7765 75616665 565c746c 6f4c6664
ecx+32 0139129C 632e6461 00007070 7274656d 3c206369
ecx+48 013912AC 72726120 657a6973 6d5f6d28 69727465
edx-32 0562FB90 0139127c 00000204 00000000 04187ba8
edx-16 0562FBA0 30be9e60 00000000 00000000 00000003
edx 0 0562FBB0 70616548 7962202c 3d736574 34373034
edx16 0562FBC0 34363530 000ecb00 000ecbbf 0562fbf4
edx+32 0562FBD0 00783ba5 00000000 0562fc90 0562fbf0
edx+48 0562FBE0 04187bac 0562fc90 00000000 00000000
esi-32 7798F248 90909090 9825ff90 9077951d 90909090
esi-16 7798F258 909005eb ff909090 951c0c25 90909077
esi 0 7798F268 ff8b9090 5dec8b55 909005eb ff909090
esi16 7798F278 951db025 90909077 186a9090 98f32068
esi+32 7798F288 da7ae877 4d830000 35ffffe4 77a16010
esi+48 7798F298 13a015ff f6337795 33fc7589 7d8947ff

—> Code <—
0067D97F 806a2d01 8d45bc6a 4050e8b2 67ffff83 .j-..E.j@P..g…
0067D98F c4108d55 bcb90500 00006a00 ff751453 …U……j..u.S
0067D99F e8ac9400 008b55b4 8b45b88d 5a178b75 ……U..E..Z..u
0067D9AF 1883e3f0 8bcb8843 fa8ac32a c2668973 …….C…*.f.s
0067D9BF f88843fb 0fb6c02b c8897bfc 3bca7414 ..C….+..{.;.t.
0067D9CF 68e50300 00bafc69 2d01b990 6a2d01e8 h……i-…j-..

—> Stack <—
0562FB8C 0067d9a4 0139127c 00000204 00000000 ..g.|.9………
0562FB9C 04187ba8 30be9e60 00000000 00000000 .{..`..0……..
0562FBAC 00000003 70616548 7962202c 3d736574 ….Heap, bytes=
0562FBBC 34373034 34363530 000ecb00 000ecbbf 40740564……..
0562FBCC 0562fbf4 00783ba5 00000000 0562fc90 ..b..;x…….b.
0562FBDC 0562fbf0 04187bac 0562fc90 00000000 ..b..{….b…..
0562FBEC 00000000 693e7626 0562fc88 009b97a5 ….&v>i..b…..
0562FBFC 00000000 00000000 0139127c 00000204 ……..|.9…..
0562FC0C 0000003a 00000001 00000010 00000010 :……………
0562FC1C 04187ba8 04187bac 3f800000 00000000 .{…{…..?….
0562FC2C 00000000 00000000 00000000 3f800000 ……………?
0562FC3C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….
0562FC4C 3f800000 00000000 33b95890 00000001 …?…..X.3….
0562FC5C 30be9e60 00000001 00000001 00000004 `..0…………
0562FC6C 0067eec9 000008a0 006bca50 07484510 ..g…..P.k..EH.
0562FC7C 65294710 30be9e60 00000000 0562fc9c .G)e`..0……b.
0562FC8C 009b8eea 026da6d4 04187410 04187410 ……m..t…t..
0562FC9C 0562fcb4 009b3dc4 00000010 00000010 ..b..=……….
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0562FD6C 0434d010 0177b82e 00000001 0434d358 ..4…w…..X.4.
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0562FD9C 00000002 00000010 0562fdf4 0434d460 ……….b.`.4.
0562FDAC 020f8360 00000001 0177b82e e0c3eb2e `………w…..
0562FDBC 00000051 00000000 778258bc 75aa1876 Q……..X.wv..u
0562FDCC 00000000 75aa189f 68785bf0 00000001 …….u.[xh….
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0562FE4C 008292c1 03ff2d30 020f8360 0067f048 ….0-..`…H.g.
0562FE5C 00000000 020f8360 00000000 0562fea0 ….`………b.
0562FE6C 007cfd70 03ff2d30 693e7372 00000000 p.|.0-..rs>i….
0562FE7C 020f8360 020f8360 020f8360 0562fe74 `…`…`…t.b.
0562FE8C 007d4d93 0562fee8 007d00b0 6d31c34a .M}…b…}.J.1m
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0562FEEC 777fe15d 01603779 00000000 0562ff10 ]..wy7`…….b.
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0562FF2C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….
0562FF3C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….
0562FF4C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….
0562FF5C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….
0562FF6C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….
0562FF7C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….

—> Error Logs <—
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1907337256732033536’
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1907337037688701442’
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1907337699113665028’
Model ‘0×082244’: Failed to resolve AimIK bone indices.
Debug token ‘0×266fa’: Lightning ran out of space for new bolts.
Couldn’t find missile launch point for gadget ‘0xdd162’.
Couldn’t find missile launch point for gadget ‘0xdd162’.
Couldn’t find projectile effect for skill ‘Zz5tK.pGPgw’
Couldn’t find missile launch point for gadget ‘0xdd162’.
Texture ‘0×03539b’ dimensions too small
Loading ‘0×03539b’ texture failed
Texture ‘0×03539b’ dimensions too small
Loading ‘0×03539b’ texture failed
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930741529675137550’
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930720570234733141’
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930720583119635050’
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930741576919777807’
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1928779829132493374’
Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1928779571434455611’
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Texture missing mip chain: 0×00ecaf

—> DirectX Device Info <—
VendorId = 0×10de
DeviceId = 0×0a65
Version = 9.18.0013.4144
Description = NVIDIA GeForce 210
Compat = 0×00100800
VidMem = 1024 MB

I have crashed over 10 times in 2 hours of play.

So far only happens in the Brink. Here is the last crash report —-

• Crash <—*
  OOM: Heap, bytes=40740564,
  App: Gw2.exe
  Pid: 2696
  Cmdline:
  BaseAddr: 00370000
  ProgramId: 101
  Build: 54517
  When: 2015-10-23T16:53:01Z 2015-10-23T12:53:01-04:00
  Uptime: 0 days 0:16:28
  Flags: 0

• System <—*
  Name: OPSCON1-PC
  IpAddr: 192.168.1.4
  Processors: 2 [AuthenticAMD:15:11:2]
  OSVersion: Windows 6.1 (32 bit)

• System Memory <—*
  Physical: 981MB/ 3071MB 31%
  Paged: 3473MB/ 6140MB 56%
  Virtual: 180MB/ 2047MB 8%
  Load: 68%
  CommitTotal: 2667MB
  CommitLimit: 6140MB
  CommitPeak: 2832MB
  SystemCache: 1011MB
  HandleCount: 18362
  ProcessCount: 65
  ThreadCount: 778

• Process Memory <—*
  Private: 1357MB
  WorkingSet: 1223MB
  PeakWorkingSet: 1346MB
  PageFaults: 2898803

• Memory Category Usage (Inclusive) <—*
  [Category] [Size(MB)] [Count]
  Root 402.05 339115
  Programmer Data 299.78 203198
  VRAM 173.95 17827
  Game 135.22 106828
  Content 96.48 37301
  Engine 95.43 81270
  Gr 69.50 58455
  VRAM – Gr Postproc 64.85 18
  Art Assets 50.37 883
  Collections 47.23 3417
  Dictionary 46.17 504
  Uncategorized 45.73 134884
  Character Models 44.63 153
  Composite Models 40.05 141
  Composite Tex 39.89 138
  Composite Tex Pool 39.89 138
  VRAM – DirectX Geo Buffers 30.56 1520
  Text 28.16 4062
  VRAM – UI Textures 24.27 630
  VRAM – DDI Shader 23.20 15490
  Audio 21.77 5706
  VRAM – Gr Geometry 19.30 128
  I/O 12.39 330
  Archive 11.20 38

• Memory Category Usage (Exclusive) <—*
  [Category] [Size(MB)] [Count]
  Content 96.48 37301
  VRAM – Gr Postproc 64.85 18
  Dictionary 46.17 504
  Uncategorized 45.73 134884
  Composite Tex Pool 39.89 138
  Gr 38.09 651
  VRAM – DirectX Geo Buffers 30.56 1520
  Text 28.16 4062
  VRAM – UI Textures 24.27 630
  VRAM – DDI Shader 23.20 15490
  VRAM – Gr Geometry 19.30 128
  Audio 11.67 938
  Archive 11.20 38
  Audio FMOD 10.11 4768
  Gr Umbra 8.96 1200
  Gr Cloud 8.69 17805
  Collide Havok 6.18 150
  Gr Model 4.94 9040
  Character Packfile 4.58 12
  Anim Import Packfile 4.53 15
  Composite 4.49 535
  Gr Font 4.06 256
  Debugging 4.00 2
  Game Animation 3.91 41224

[DbgHelp.dll is C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll]
[DbgHelp.dll version 6.1.7601.17514 (64/32-bit compatible)]

• ClientContextThreadProc Thread 0xb6c <—*

• Trace <—*
  Pc:0067d99f Fr:0562fbf4 Rt:009b97a5 Arg:00000000 00000000 0139127c 00000204
  Pc:009b97a5 Fr:0562fc88 Rt:009b8eea Arg:026da6d4 04187410 04187410 0562fcb4
  Pc:009b8eea Fr:0562fc9c Rt:009b3dc4 Arg:00000010 00000010 00000010 0434d010
  Pc:009b3dc4 Fr:0562fcb4 Rt:009b5799 Arg:00000010 0562fd40 0686dab8 0434d054
  Pc:009b5799 Fr:0562fce4 Rt:009b81df Arg:3c670f56 0082bb63 0434d010 0434d460
  Pc:009b81df Fr:0562fd8c Rt:00829aee Arg:0434d010 00000002 00000002 00000010
  Pc:00829aee Fr:0562fe08 Rt:0082acf2 Arg:4708cb49 01d10db3 693e739a 00000001
  Pc:0082acf2 Fr:0562fe48 Rt:008292c1 Arg:03ff2d30 020f8360 0067f048 00000000
  Pc:008292c1 Fr:0562fe68 Rt:007cfd70 Arg:03ff2d30 693e7372 00000000 020f8360
  Pc:007cfd70 Fr:0562fea0 Rt:007cfe98 Arg:00000000 0562feb8 7799ee6c 020f8360
  Pc:007cfe98 Fr:0562feac Rt:7799ee6c Arg:020f8360 0562fef8 77843ab3 020f8360
  Pc:7799ee6c Fr:0562feb8 Rt:77843ab3 Arg:020f8360 7381da99 00000000 00000000
  Pc:77843ab3 Fr:0562fef8 Rt:77843a86 Arg:007cfe1c 020f8360 00000000 00000000
  Pc:77843a86 Fr:0562ff10 Rt:00000000 Arg:007cfe1c 020f8360 00000000 00000000

• Thread registers <—*
  eax=0562f768 ebx=0562fbb0 ecx=0139127c edx=0562fbb0 esi=7798f26a edi=00000000
  eip=0067d99f esp=0562fb8c ebp=0562fbf4
  cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246

eax-32 0562F748 00000000 00000004 fffffd34 000002e4
eax-16 0562F758 fffffd34 000002cc 00000018 00000000
eax 0 0562F768 80000003 00000000 00000000 75aa812f
eax16 0562F778 00000000 66c051f4 ffffffff 5b4136a8
eax+32 0562F788 00000001 380010fc ffffffff 650039ac
eax+48 0562F798 ffffffff 60c13be8 ffffffff 5bc067f0
ebx-32 0562FB90 0139127c 00000204 00000000 04187ba8
ebx-16 0562FBA0 30be9e60 00000000 00000000 00000003
ebx 0 0562FBB0 70616548 7962202c 3d736574 34373034
ebx16 0562FBC0 34363530 000ecb00 000ecbbf 0562fbf4
ebx+32 0562FBD0 00783ba5 00000000 0562fc90 0562fbf0
ebx+48 0562FBE0 04187bac 0562fc90 00000000 00000000
ecx-32 0139125C 009ba4c0 006f0057 006c0072 00200064
ecx-16 0139126C 0061004d 00200070 00650054 00000078
ecx 0 0139127C 2e5c2e2e 2e2e5c2e 6d61475c 69565c65
ecx16 0139128C 445c7765 75616665 565c746c 6f4c6664
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ecx+48 013912AC 72726120 657a6973 6d5f6d28 69727465
edx-32 0562FB90 0139127c 00000204 00000000 04187ba8
edx-16 0562FBA0 30be9e60 00000000 00000000 00000003
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edx16 0562FBC0 34363530 000ecb00 000ecbbf 0562fbf4
edx+32 0562FBD0 00783ba5 00000000 0562fc90 0562fbf0
edx+48 0562FBE0 04187bac 0562fc90 00000000 00000000
esi-32 7798F248 90909090 9825ff90 9077951d 90909090
esi-16 7798F258 909005eb ff909090 951c0c25 90909077
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esi+32 7798F288 da7ae877 4d830000 35ffffe4 77a16010
esi+48 7798F298 13a015ff f6337795 33fc7589 7d8947ff

• Code <—*
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  0067D9CF 68e50300 00bafc69 2d01b990 6a2d01e8 h……i-…j-..

• Stack <—*
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  0562FB9C 04187ba8 30be9e60 00000000 00000000 .{..`..0……..
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  0562FBDC 0562fbf0 04187bac 0562fc90 00000000 ..b..{….b…..
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  0562FC0C 0000003a 00000001 00000010 00000010 :……………
  0562FC1C 04187ba8 04187bac 3f800000 00000000 .{…{…..?….
  0562FC2C 00000000 00000000 00000000 3f800000 ……………?
  0562FC3C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 …………….
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• Error Logs <—*
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1907337256732033536’
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1907337037688701442’
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1907337699113665028’
  Model ‘0×082244’: Failed to resolve AimIK bone indices.
  Debug token ‘0×266fa’: Lightning ran out of space for new bolts.
  Couldn’t find missile launch point for gadget ‘0xdd162’.
  Couldn’t find missile launch point for gadget ‘0xdd162’.
  Couldn’t find projectile effect for skill ‘Zz5tK.pGPgw’
  Couldn’t find missile launch point for gadget ‘0xdd162’.
  Texture ‘0×03539b’ dimensions too small
  Loading ‘0×03539b’ texture failed
  Texture ‘0×03539b’ dimensions too small
  Loading ‘0×03539b’ texture failed
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930741529675137550’
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930720570234733141’
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930720583119635050’
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1930741576919777807’
  Content is referencing a propID that doesn’t exist propId=‘1928779829132493374’
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  Texture missing mip chain: 0×00ecaf

• DirectX Device Info <—*
  VendorId = 0×10de
  DeviceId = 0×0a65
  Version = 9.18.0013.4144
  Description = NVIDIA GeForce 210
  Compat = 0×00100800
  VidMem = 1024 MB

Dragonbrand and Gates of Madness have by all apperances ganged up on Kaineng, which for some stupid reason ended up against them on this week. Oh sure, we show all as T6 right now (https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/wvwmain) but Kaineng is rank 19 vs a 15 and 16. Rank is purely a result of coverage under current system, so not only are golems overcharged, not only are they free, there are twice the people to duplicate them and send them at us.

This is pure fen fen.

Basandra Skye.4031:

As for the topic itself, I’d rather see more fine-grained control. Namely an option that would dynamically change skills from ground targeted (when friendly or no target selected) to “at target” when an enemy’s selected.

Dear Six yes, can we have this?

dancingmonkey.4902:

The problem I see here is I feel your looking at it wrong. If you want a sport, go to sPvP or tPvP. If you want easy fun, go to PvP………………………..If you want a trophy for everyone on your team even if they lose, you do not go to war. WvW is war. It is not a sport, or a fair game. And pouncing on unsuspecting prey or smaller numbered groups, is the name of the game.

No, it’s a game. If it was ‘War’ then when you got killed in said ‘War’ you would not be able to play in it again until server re-set. As it stands, you can’t even play defensive and try to even the odds via attrition (you know, like they did in the siege and castles days).

Oh, I’m sorry, I thought this was about Kaineng.

KDXX.9520:

I’m with everyone else is this thread.

I’m from SoR
-Week 1: GoM, Darkhaven.
-Week 2: Anvil Rock, Kaineng.
-Week 3: GoM, E-Bay
-Week 4: GoM, Darkhaven.

I want a kittening dev response and I want it right the kitten now!

I don’t care if you don’t like WvW, I don’t care if you don’t care about it. I DO and I paid for the game just like every other person who cares about it. I want a kittening dev response and I want it NOW.

I’m in Kaineng (really, are we even a server anymore… we keep bleeding out WvW guilds. We had [RAGE] leave _during the tournament!) and seeing AR again is kinda disappointing.

DaShi.1368:

Seems like they just copy-pasted what they did for the Chinese version of the game.

I work for one fortune 500 international company contracted out to another fortune 500 company. I have weekly interaction with resources in Shanghai. They too hate this levelling. They had heard about what we had and they wanted that. Instead they got Lineage 2.5 with a Gemstore.

Ok, I expected sarcasm and got it.

Seraphina.6859:

The new trait aquisition sytem is in conflict with everything they wanted to achieve with it: providing new players with a more simple and transparent system, encouraging experimenting, giving players a better feeling of achievement.

Personally, it enourages me to never create new alts. The whole system is a chore and needs to be fully revamped.

It’s not all a chore. I’ve been leveling an alt under the new system while playing with a friend who never knew the old one, and the solutions are pretty apparent. Really, reading thru this again, it boils down to about 3 simple things to solve it;

1) Distribution of trait points – 1 new = 5 old is fine, but when we get them is the problem. Should be 1 point every five levels starting with 15. That gives you 4 trait points by the time you are level 30, and gives something in the space between skill slot at 20 and your elite. Adept unlocks at level 15, Master at 40, Grandmaster at 70.

2) Location of places to quest for major traits – Not hard really, just move them to zones and events that match their levels as above. Find master traits in areas from Level 40 to 70, and Grandmaster traits in 70+ zones.

3) Costs to learn and early options – Simply put, it is STUPID EXPENSIVE to learn traits and you have very few options to play with traits at lower levels. All Adept Traits (I-VI) should unlock for free by default at level 20 (when you’d first have the option to slot one as proposed in one above). Master and Grandmaster should have their costs to learn at a trainer halved (both coin and skill points) and the quests to unlock should be as above in two.

Seems like from the context of these 19 pages that would make the most people happy.

I’ll just copy my post from Reddit —

Really, I like it pretty well, but a few improvements I could see—

1) One trait point per every 5 levels starting at level 15. Keep it an even spread. Gives you something new between your level 10 skill slot and level 20 skill slot, and something between the level 20 and level 30 elite slot opening. By level 30 you’d have 4 trait points to spend that might have good synergy with skills and your elite by then.

Adept would open at level 15, Master at 40, Grandmaster at 70.

2) Traits should unlock in areas relevant to their levels. Adepts in level 15-40 zones, Master in zones up to 70, GM in 71-80. Some story mode quests should grant a choice of adept traits.

3) If not already (I have no way to test, my slots are full) traits should unlock per account, not character, for those that like multiple races of the same class.

Gwenryth.9450:

Please remove Megaserver.
We’ve chosen a Server at the beginning because we wanted to play there. We transfer to another Server, if we don’t like the one we’ve chosen. Most of us love their Server and the “family” we found there, but the Megaserverthingy destroys everything.
I want to play with my Drakkar-family, and don’t want to be forced to a map, where 5 different languages are spoken and German speaking peoples are called kittens (kittens=bad guys from 2nd worldwar).
Maybe the system works for NA Servers, where most fellows speak English, but in EU it’s really bad.
My English isn’t good enough to bring up all my disappointment, but I think everything what bothers me was posted earlier in this thread.
Please give us back our Homeworlds!

Friend, I’m American and I agree 100%.

I picked a low pop server because my machine is not the newest (AMD Dual Core Athlon x64), and huge amounts of people on the map force me to turn my graphics down so low that Guild Wars 1 looks better.

I agree with the Megaserver concept, just not it being FORCED. Keep the megaservers, but also keep the world servers, and let the player choose if they want to stay in their normal world maps or the megaserver maps. If overflow is an issue on a map, then that can be automatic megaserver rather than overflow.

The contested waypoints thing is kinda dumb. Instead of showing all waypoints contested that could be, just let you port like before and if it IS contested, then it moves you to the closest one on the map that isn’t (like Orr has always done before).

Achievement Skins (Hall of Monuments and Zenith skins, for example) cost 0 transmutation charges.

Anyone else think LS event skins (Scarlet’s mask, injector backpack, etc) should also cost 0? And one “baseline” starter set for each armor type (light, medium, heavy) and weapon to cost 0 for those that want a consistent look for free until they hit level 80?