the idea i posted doesn’t hurt condi thieves. it just adds more utility to it (which is basically worthless for power thieves).
i’d like to see a (~900 range) gap closer/shadowstep incorporated somehow. ideally that positions us behind the target (granting stealth or blind?).
perhaps make it only do the gap closer if a target is selected or do a two part skill (like flanking strike/larcenous strike)
this would benefit both power and condi d/d thieves.
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this just happened to me in wvw. all other sounds cut out except for the battle music. play seemed normal otherwise.
however, when i put the game in the switched to my desktop (commend+tab on mac) the music was still playing while in other applications too.
had to force quit the game.
with signet of malice, use your black powder and auto attack. only use your pistol whip if you’re getting tagged and need that quick burst of health. saving your init to keep the black powder up is more important the burning through it with pistol whip. of course i haven’t done pve really since before the black powder nerf.
traits look fine for d/p.
i’d suggest putting shadow refuge on your bar (shadow refuge, infiltrator’s signet, shadow step is pretty standard for roaming), but that’s just a personal preference.
you have very low hp so you’ll just have to outplay all the bad guys. just get in there to get experience doing it. you’re gonna die often but you’ll learn and eventually get better/better gear (and guard stacks, etc).
backstab all the things. have fun.
well if you’re going p/d then full dire armor (krait, or balthazar, or perplexity runes) condition build will be the safest thing. you’ll be able to take a lot of damage and watch them bleed to death. people will hate you for it. since you haven’t bought your exotic set yet this might be the way to go. people will cry and call you cheese. whatever.
if you’re going for a faster power play style then d/p if probably the safest thing now. you can go full zerk or mix zerk with valk or cav. but you’re probably going to want power runes over traveller (strength, pack, ogre).
good luck.
i should add that it (armor/runes) also totally depends on if you’re wanting to roam solo, roam with a group, or in a zerg.
you won’t be able to buy valk from wvw armor vendor. you’ll need to get it with gold. you wouldn’t want to put expensive runes into wvw armor anyway since you can’t get them out.
use your zerk set until you can afford exotic valk if that’s what you’re going for. maybe get some +vitality and -condi food in the meantime.
dodge a lot. hope you don’t run into rangers running sic ’em… be prepared to die. a lot. have fun.
You kill a Ranger’s pet, you’ve disabled a trait line. Kill their spirits, you’ve disabled another one.
great… give us an instant cast ‘kill pet/spirit’ or ‘un-analyze’ utility. same thing, right?
And I worry about you if you can’t survive for 6 seconds outside of stealth with a full 6 points in SA (that toughness helps a lot).
thank you for worrying about me, but re-read what i wrote. i’ve had little problem killing glass rangers while revealed. that wasn’t the issue.
Do you just run around with your head cut off? Or do you actually dodge, daze the enemy, and buy as much time as needed for revealed to get knocked off?
yes. i just run around with my head cut off. it’s very liberating. and yes i use my 2 dodges, but sadly i don’t have a daze.
i think it’s great that rangers got buffed. and honestly i’ve had little problem dealing with rangers using sic ’em 1v1 or 1v2 because most of them are made of glass. and this is running a sa d/d hk spec.
but that’s not the issue. the issue is is that and entire trait line has been disabled.
‘well just don’t put 6 points into shadow arts,’ isn’t a balanced or fair answer either.
i’ll quit kittening about it. maybe i’ll just switch to s/d. oh wait…
It does not “disable” it. It just counters it. It’s not like you have revealed 24/7 on you…
Ballance?! Being untargeted because of stealth spam is ballance? Yeah right…
no. by definition it does in fact (temporarily) disable shadow arts traits.
stealth/being untargeted doesn’t prevent thieves from taking damage.
i have no problem with balanced counters to stealth (like the other example of ‘seeing invisible’). however, sic ‘em and analyze aren’t examples of a balanced counters unless the devs rework the shadow arts line to not require stealth for all the things.
I would rather they added a see invisible instead of forcing revealed.
this would be fine and makes a ton more sense.
giving the pet (or even pet+ranger) or the individual engineer using goggles the ability to see us would be an example of good balance. triggering revealed is not.
You DO have skills to survive that do not rely on stealth. You just don’t want to use them and raging because you lost the hit, stealth, heal, hit “tactic”
it’s not just the single “tactic”. it disables an entire trait line and therefore disables another one (at least) of our possible builds.
this would be like giving thieves the ability to shut down the entire wilderness survival trait line or inventions trait line. this would never fly.
this isn’t balance.
exactly.The fact that they give skills to other professions that completely shut down the professions main defensive and offensive mechanic as well as an ENTIRE TRAIT LINE is just so kittening stupid I don’t even know where to begin!
i have ascended valk and wish i hadn’t put my traveller’s runes in them because after the ferocity nerf my backstabs don’t hit very hard and now i’m going to have to overwrite them (probably with pack runes).
maybe try pack runes since they’re cheapest of the 3 and if you don’t like them then replacing them won’t be such a big deal.
i’d definitely appreciate your guide.
as a fellow power p/d thief this is really excellent. thanks!
just curious, but why’d you decide against pistol mastery? do/would you switch (practiced tolerance) to it once you’ve obtained full guard stacks in wvw?
hire a few tough lookin mercenaries to safely escort you. just don’t fall in love… it never ends well with mercenaries…
thanks, both! will give it a shot.
awesome. i’m also running power p/d (due to @panicbutton’s old post, thanks!). i had to give up on d/d because my positioning sucks/i play on a mac laptop with a crap trackpad, but p/d power kept me interested.
seems pretty powerful once i’ve got full guard stacks and sigil of perception stacks but would really welcome any changes/advice to my build… would bloodlust be better to stack? was my valk armor a mistake (over berserker?)…also how to deal with nike warriors…
thanks, teefs!
i have/had a similar position issue with d/d but mostly because i’m on a macbook with a trackpad that is probably not helping matters. like you said, it’s less of a problem in group fights due to targets being less aware of me, but 1v1 i miss backstab a lot.
ended up switching to a power p/d spec when solo and it’s been decent. doesn’t hit as hard but is much more forgiving of non-perfect positioning. pistol mastery, infiltrator’s signet, auto targeting, and lock auto target on seem to help with this set as well. cast CnD, steal or infiltrator’s signet, unload, shadow strike, kite, repeat.
harley quinn and oscuro both have great power p/d posts on these forums. you might want to check them out.
i’d be interested in advice to your questions too. hopefully they don’t all involve expensive gaming mice…
edited my post. i meant p/d.
my situation is pretty much exactly like OP, playing power p/d (executioner not hidden killer). no desire for condition build.
i did just craft ascended valk chest, legs, and am half way done with helm…
i’ve definitely noticed it helping but should i craft zerk for the other items?
i pretty much only do wvw or farm orr/fgs.
i haven’t changed my build yet (valk/traveller 10/30/30) but is sigil of force no longer good for d/d backstab build? (currently have force/fire).
same here. so encumbered…
rmbp 15" 2.7ghz i7 16gb ram
thanks for the patch! i was able to play wvw without crashing for a nice long period of time. however on “Exit to Desktop” the client froze with a semi-transparent black screen and forced me to restart my mac (this time i was able to control+command+delete tho).
searching “cider” in my Console i saw this again:
3/19/14 7:00:16.806 PM cider4923: SetFrontProcess failed! Err: -29298
3/19/14 7:02:05.389 PM cider4936: regapi failed: 1
3/19/14 7:03:54.000 PM kernel0: process cider4936 thread 361429 caught burning CPU!; EXC_RESOURCE supressed due to audio playback
same thing as everyone else here since the patch.
one time was error c00000005
others i couldn’t tell the error code because it freezes my mac and i have to force restart the kitten thing. of course the error c00000005 time froze my mac too…
this terrifying thing was in my console log:
3/18/14 9:33:43.000 PM kernel0: process cider453 thread 4147 caught burning CPU!; EXC_RESOURCE supressed due to audio playback
rmbp 15" 10.9.2, 2.7ghz i7, 16gb ram.
exactly this. keeps happening to me at second knight with large zerg. awful.
am getting the “lockedRect.pBits” error/crash since the last patch. happened twice in the middle of new LS boss fight (both times was the “green” knight).
also frequently (even before this latest patch but still with it) sometimes crashes would actually restart my computer which is just insane. not sure if that was the “lockedRect.pBits” error or not since…my computer restarted…
i’m using a macbook pro retina with os x 10.9.2, 2.7 ghz core i7 and 16bg ram. this shouldn’t be happening.