Guild Wars 2

alcopaul.2156:

Asudementio.8526:

alcopaul.2156:

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

alcopaul.2156:

What is BT? the best example will be WM, if i may.

Well what will prolly happen is that i won’t see 3-4 tagged up WM magically appearing in 4 of the borderlands when we will have the chance to face Blackgate at reset.

At least the D|E|RP spy had class and actually bothered to pay gems to be on enemy servers.

My reply was to Zook, but if what you are upset about is spying do you realize how silly that makes you look?

First off, TC has more than enough Sentries and Scouts to track Zergs. Second, if those [RE] were so set on “spying” wouldn’t it make so much more sense for them to simply turn their tags off and avoid this whole situation?

You are calling them “spies” and “traitors” like it is impossible for them to actually be fighting for KN while still there. Haven’t you and your friends ever had a “pick up game” of basketball or football/soccer where even though you are all friends you still play against each other?

I really do think it is best if this is bothering you so much for you to just step away and take the week off. You are only causing a lot of strife where there doesn’t need to be any.

im not calling them traitors. just spies. prolly gloating spies. I didn’t see any RE n WvWvW since they announced their transfer to TC. Come reset vs TC and they magically appear in KNBL and EBG. Connect the dots.

Their appearance on KN bl was coincidence.

No, they had RE Kaineng leftovers in KNBL, prolly tipping their TC RE which had a presence in KNBL last night.

Then I port on EBG and i see RE leftovers too.

Know what? last night was the first time since their announced departure that i saw their tags in any of the Borderlands.

So what the kitten do you want me to think about?

Coincidence?

Sure.

wow so now you just sound ridiculous…yes the server that had every bl queued last night needs spys to beat a server who maybe queued one bl unless they actually decided to play wvw now the RE is gone(btw i wvw on kain sense the bandwagons as you call them left and you never queued any map but eb and maybe knbl)….ill point it out again sense it must not have sank in…we beat cd by 200k..cd beat you…do the math there and tell me if you think we would ever need/want a spy to beat you….

Did you think the RE members still on kain could have showed up this week because they welcomed the chance to fight there own guildies?….nooo much easier to just call them spys and throw fits…smh

a limit on players…like 80 to 100 that is all ready in place…perhaps instead of punishing the servers who get ppl out of pve and into wvw the servers complaining should try and get ppl to try wvw..you never know they might like it and want to stick to playing it instead of pve or spvp/tpvp

Sol.8341:

Mooodster.3470:

you sound just as butt hert about them leaving as you did when you and the server asked them not to wvw so that you could drop tiers…

I’m sure Kaineng did drop rankings but the new matchup system obviously screwed up. If it’s working as intended, it would show perhaps after transfers, our elite core still holding the fort well ? Did you seriously expect praise for people that abandon the server ?

we just beat cd by what 200k and cd beat you so id have to say the random factor put you here….as for praise no one asked for it but the rude comments where not needed…is saying good luck and have fun that hard to say…

Sol.8341:

Rest and relax week for Kaineng I guess. Compared to our last meetup a month ago, we lost at least half of WvW population from transfers and NA/EU presence barely noticeable. Even thou the transfers were not highly skilled players, they still played an important role as meatshields and distraction force.

I would like to thank all commanders remaining on Kaineng and encourage them to take a well-deserved break this week to prevent burn-out, especially the Oceanic / SEA commanders that have been doing extra time on other timezones. Ignore the score and just logout if you feel like shouting at other players. It’s is not any player’s fault that Anet has decided to put us back with T2 servers time week even though we have been losing constantly in score for past month.

This is a good week also to farm gold in pve for those with plans. Remember, this is a game. If it is not fun, just logout and play another game or do something else in real life.

you sound just as butt hert about them leaving as you did when you and the server asked them not to wvw so that you could drop tiers…

i have a few questions….
1…who held the gun to your head and said if you dont read it they will shoot you
2…why after reading and realizing it might spoil the game a lil did you not stop reading…
3…whose fault is it really that YOU did not stop reading?
4…when are you going to take responsibility for the fact no one forced you to read what was written or finish reading after you realized it might spoil it for you….
5…when are you going to stop acting like everything should be done the way you want it or you throw a temper tantrum and create forums accusing companys of not listening just because they did something you dont like on a site outside of there game?

you do realize that not everyone fallows face book and that it was probably put there for people who cant play the game but want to keep up more then for the people who can play the game but choose to read face book instead of play??

wow so i just wanna tell everyone whining about how the rng took ur money and its not fair to never go into a gambling establishment because well its called gambling not winning for a reason…

believe it or not some of us like the jade skins simply because not everyone will have them..yes putting them up for gems would give lots of people access to them and just like the winters day stuff..a lot of people would not get them simply because everyone can own them

whoaaa there WoW fan boy

if you like wow so much your free to go back there but some of us have absolutely no
no desire to play that game….btw i could argue that wow has taken alot of its ideas from the game runescape or perfect world or many of the much older rpg series out there

you dont seem to understand the idea of living story..ill explain it too you….its just like real life where if you miss the day/week where the event/party is happening well your kitten out of luck gess what…just like the living story…thats what makes it living

what do you call a series of things you do to achieve something…i call them tasks yes i preform a series of tasks to unlock an achievement. you stating you have achievement ocd basically tells me you do things you dont like all the time and sense you do them you then feel the need to whine about how there not like you think they should be….here is an idea..if you dont like them..dont do them..yes i know hard to believe you dont actually have to do things you dont like…

i didnt even bother to listen to over half of it because well your just rambling on about WoW and how you think its great but figured it point out some things that just made no sense at all

saiyr.3071:

Mooodster.3470:

mags you had no problem beating kain and yaks senseless for 3-4 weeks b4 the match change and when you get moved up to fight above the people you where stomping every week you complain…hmmmm

The scores were pretty darn close every one of those weeks, actually. The gap at the end was almost always less than the gap in score between DB and Maguuma now. But sure, keep on revising history. And a lot of us were still getting bored of the match, and Kaineng was losing guilds anyway so there wasn’t much more to get out of that matchup.

e]Edit: I should also say that I would be very surprised if many members of the WvW-concentrated guilds actually did not like last week’s matchup. Ehmry was a very close contender score-wise and FA actually likes to fight open field.

the nightly karma train you ran on kain(took 2nd every week) is something you do when you know your going to win not something you do when you might win because karma trains don’t defend or try and hold points so if it was close why didn’t they bunker down like you did in eb?

the kain/yaks/cd match-ups where much closer(i believe maybe a 10k points difference between 1st and 3rd) then the mags/yaks/kain matches(around 50k points difference)personally i think sos/mags and cd would probably be closer then your current matches but the new system seems to be trying to figure out where mags belongs because you where better then the old t3 but dont belong in what the old t2 as your last few matches have shown

EvilSardine.9635:

Atrophied.8725:

I hope CD and SoS are taking this week to learn from TC so they can improve, not just sitting back and letting the score run out.

No thanks.

The other night we ran across a 15 or so TC group near the north camp but we only had 5 people in our group so we moved south a bit towards the skritt caves. Instead of chasing us, they took the high route so now they are overlooking us from the top of the cliff. Our mesmer pulls down their commander and all but two of them follow him like lemmings to his death.

That was hands down the best thing I’ve seen in months.

someone once told me ur not a good/recognized commander till you can lead your zerg off a cliff and no one thinks to stop at the top….that said watching 40 ppl all fall off a cliff is funny to almost everyone involved and im sure they laughed at it too

mags you had no problem beating kain and yaks senseless for 3-4 weeks b4 the match change and when you get moved up to fight above the people you where stomping every week you complain…hmmmm

so you would rather have a t2 server blow out a t3 and a t4 every week then have a t4 server maybe fight a t1 server every now and then(once the rating gap is closed this wont happen anymore)….sounds like your logic is broken

trading wins……could you explain how you trade wins when the points gap on friday was ohh something like 75k between 1st and 2nd? so no madder what happened at the time the score was only going to change by maybe 5k tops if one side managed to tick at 600+…also wanna know the difference between what they did and what havoc groups do idk every day of the week…

Kopipoki.3542:

These Matchmaking problems would all be solved if they would just implement1 up 1 down. Winner goes up Loser goes down and the middle stays in the same bracket. This way there are new matchups every week and

how many times do we have to tell you this is a bad idea before the people who keep suggesting this figure it out…if you wanna see how well t1 vs t2 vs t3 would work you can look at the forums and see how bad the blowout was…move a t2 down vs a t3 and t4 and you have another blowout and it just keeps going down to the lower tiers but i gess some of you are the type that has to see it fail b4 you will get it threw your head

WvW is designed to accommodate players that would not normally participate in PvP. For instance, the high player limit means that a new player can get involved without immediately feeling pressured to contribute. In addition, objectives are available for a variety of group sizes, so players don’t need to be members of dedicated guilds in order to be productive…..

taken strait off the gw2 wiki page for wvw notice how it says FOR PLAYERS WHO DON’T NORMALLY PARTICIPATE IN PVP? don’t like zerg go havoc or roam but please don’t tell anyone not to zerg because there are guilds that can field 30+ members and it would be wrong to tell them they cant play together because you don’t like it

I for one love wvw because i can zerg if i want, havoc if i cant find a zerg or roam solo if im feeling like a loner that day so please don’t change it by forcing anyone to do something just because some people don’t like it…Some of us hate tradition pvp and think wvw is a awesome the way it is because it offers you the ability to do what you want when you want even if some people cant see it

agree with op just because if i want dungeon gear i have to actually do a dungeon not a jp around the dungeon..People are going to say “but i need badges for my legendary” well its called the gift of battle not the gift of jumping puzzle…if they wanna leave the badges make it so mesmers cant port people making you actually have to earn them in a way not just stand and waiting for portals to open

im actually really enjoying these chests so far 1st 2 i opened had some blue prints some badges 2 greens and a ascended ring. must be dumb luck tho cause i have not one piece of mf gear on

VOLKON.1290:

Beachead.4127:

Answer this.. What am I supposed to do with all the badges I have right now? I have 8 laurels, some ascended items, stacks of superior rams, arrow arts etc.. I am sitting on over 4000 badges rotting in my bank that I was hoping to finally spend. What do I use them for Devon?

Traps. Supply traps are proving to be quite useful used properly.

might add gear for alt or siege prints to this here list

Tricare.2946:

DevonCarver.5370:

We included the laurel cost to prevent the economy from suddenly being blown out and to not invalidate the ways PvE players can get ascended items already. This system means that it is faster to get them in WvW, especially for players who already have badges, without being so much faster that everyone only gets them in this manner. As for the difficulty of acquiring laurels in WvW, we have taken steps to address that, including the fact that there will always be 3 daily achievements that are WvW specific. Speaking personally, I’ve been able to achieve my dailies in WvW even without that change, but this should make it even easier.

I think most people are upset with the rate that laurels are earned. How many months to gear 1 character out with ascended in WvW only? I play 2 different lvl 80’s. Guess I have to pick which one gets the better gear this year, and who has to wait until next year. woot woot

ps: oh and i’m sure there are people with 8 lvl 80’s, bet they will have fun finally finishing all their characters in 2020.

wow so you get them about 5 days faster(20 days 1char 40 days 2char total assuming they dont do factual and you dont get any from the rank chest) in wvw then in pve and are still complaining..what about the pve people who want full ascended on 2 toons. if you bolth start now i bet you finish b4 them….this is not counting guild missions because well i consider guild missions guild stuff not pve or wvw….

let me ask how easy you think it should be to get the best in slot item everyone else had to wait days upon days to get but sense you MADE THE CHOICE NOT TO do them think now you deserve them faster then anyone else and
whoever said laurels are pve is just plain wrong…by that account you should be getting maybe 1-2 badges in wvw a day sense you know you can only get 1 laurel a day in pve or 10 if you do your monthly but iv found monthly way easier to get in wvw then in pve myself….

if you want the best stuff in a game way faster then anyone else i suggest you go play pay to win games then you can just use your credit card and boom better then anyone else but if you choose to stay here your going to have to work for them just like everyone else

edit to fix the math should have been 20 days per toon not 10

you know those pesky thief’s what everyone hates cause they cant been seen…get them on ts and use them to fallow the enemy zerg…there you go you have you intelligence

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Ok guys
DORP > WM
Mag pugs > WM
and since Mags > Kain when we stopped by in T3
Mags > Blackgate
Mags > SoR
Mags > JQ

Mags so strong they play in T3 to avoid embarassing everyone else.

#Mags#1#xXxmegaskillzxXx#YOLO#alwaysoutnumbered#neverzerg#onlyskill

I’VE SEEN THE LIGHT!!!!!
Can I transfer today?

i see you too have figured out why most don’t even bother to comment in here but read it when they need a good laugh

Ender.3508:

Ahh CHIPS, nice to see KN’s ego hasn’t changed since the good ole days when you got your first win and Kain was on the forum flapping his lips…of course the didn’t seem to work out so well after we on DR got a might touchy over the arrogance. But no, I’m happy for ya, I’m sure your meteoric rise to the top was well earned and nothing to do with mass transfers and shameless dishonesty about the Kaineng fighting spirit, a spirit which was a sight to behold as your massive zerg of 40 shotgunned attempts at taking our towers until you finally nabbed one. Don’t delude yourselves you aren’t winning a victory of superior strategy, just a slugfest of timezone coverage and having the bigger blob.

wait wait wait…kain has a bigger blob and better NA coverage…and is winning these matchups? well i wish that someone would tell everyone else this..

fighting spirit is not about wining its about fighting on even when you know the chances of wining are slim to nill so i must say 40 attempts to take a tower and finaly winning is the very definition of a fighting spirit because they didnt give up knowing the odds where not in there favor. the fighing spirit of kain didnt come from the band wagoners…it came from those who where here b4 them and are here now that they are gone

so you complain about fighting the same people every week..they add a random factor so you don’t fight the same people every week and you still complain…why not just go out and admite that unless you get what you want you will always complain..in which case someone else will complain because they didn’t get what they wanted leading to nothing ever getting done…

lets hope this adds some much needed omg we are getting stomped time to step our game up and some o wow we are stomping them think ill take some time and go do something else for a few hours because ohhh now its not going to be about who buys or looses the most players to there servers just to be able to fight someone new after 2-4 weeks because it takes awhile to move up or down

all i gota say is if you made the choice not to get laurels then that was YOUR CHOICE..no one made you not do it SO LIVE WITH THE DECISION YOU MADE and stop acting like they should give you everything on a silver platter…the gate is there so everyone has to work just as hard for the gear…not really hard to figure out

I just wanna thank the op for confirming my belief that some people will complain about anything…did you even suggest anything in ur lil rant or just complain about stuff while not making a single suggestion? here is a suggestion…. how about waiting to see the patch notes b4 complaining.

lioka qiao.8734

I just wanna point out its not the winds you realy have to worry about…ITS WHATS IN THE WINDS cause these types of things will pick cars and trees up and throw them around like rag dolls…while i do agree with you on the storm shelter thing if you live down there its probably a very good idea but going over the flaws now will not fix anything that happened

hope everyone is ok and for the ones that are not i hope you find peace and can move forward..

bhagwad.4281:

Without a guaranteed badge drop, what is the motivation for me to engage and kill anyone? Many times I’ll go for several kills without getting a single badge. Far more time efficient to just farm the jumping puzzles everyday isn’t it?

the motivation is……so the other world that is trying to take your keep/tower/camp fail….

Fjandi.2516:

Would be c0000l if a dev replied to this thread. I really want to know their opinion on this subject, like:
- we know downed state is a total fail in wvw and promotes zerg but we can’t rework/fix that cos we don’t have time to waste on this…we are too busy creating a new green quaggan backpack.
- we know downed state is a total fail in wvw and promotes zerg but we don’t care at all.
- we know downed state is a total fail in wvw and promotes zerg and we are going to fix this soon (probably in 2016).
- we have never realized that OMGGG thanks for this thread!

off the description page of wvw under Participation

WvW is designed to accommodate players that would not normally participate in PvP…wait…omg wow so they ment for it to be for people who dont wanna do normal pvp..ok so now that thats outa the way…..if you want downed state taken out of pvp thats fine but leave it alone in wvw because its actually just fine and just like killing any major army(zerg) part of killing that army(zerg) is going back and making sure all the injured(downed) people are dead…you know…so they dont take you guys later

downed state is not a total fail…its part of the game…as iv said b4 elite warrior banner also picks people up so why mess with it because the pvp elite think it should be just like pvp when its actually designed to not be just like pvp….tpvp and spvp are for small scale fights…wvw is for worlds vs worlds so of course your going to have big army fighting each other

JaNordy.6149:

Cause this game is aimed as casuals and they need second chance after dying cause they are bad.

so what you saying is any person every injured(downed) on a battlefield in the history of battles was bad? try explaining that to all the wounded soldiers in the world and see what happens..im sure they will tell you they are happy the buddies where there to save them…..

like the downed state and idk why this hasn’t been mentioned but the elite warrior banner actually will res you too so its been worked into class mechanics of game…part of finishing a zerg is doubling back and finishing anyone left alive..in real life you can be injured but not dead just like here you can be injured(downed) but not dead(defeated)…. it seems to me to many pvp ppl are trying to turn the huge army v army(yes army’s have siege as part of there weapons of choice) fights that is the very description of wvw into 1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1..personally hate pvp and would stop playing wvw if they changed it to be just like pvp

Perceptor.7189 that has got to be one of the funniest things i have seen in the forums for awhile thank you for the laugh…

i would just like to point out that i am not sure how the euro servers work but paying for guilds to transfer is something quite common in t1-t2 na servers….so let me ask you this…do u think having the some great guilds(madder of opinion) transfer to your server cause they where bought and payed to do exactly that thing as a coincidence?

i don’t really like the range and the fact you can do the whole 3 screen thing but anti infantry is well supposed to cause a big headache to infantry so i do agree with the damage. thank you Anet for including all aspects of siege in siege warfare

can i has some popcorn while i watch this rather silly forum unfold even more?…must say nice push on the keep tonight while those ac carts where really annoying it was nice to see how everyone responded to that kinda attack and hopefully we learned something from it.

Farout.8207:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Will someone get those Yakkies jazzed up on Mountain Dew so they can chime in now? Plz and ty.

Such an exciting thread for YB to comment on. Let’s recap:

Zero left Mag and went to Kain…

Mag’s feelings are apparently hurt but they are attempting to act like they don’t care and instead are happy he is gone…

Kain is thrilled to have him…

Yak’s couldn’t care less…

This entire thread should be renamed : Forum Wars – Mag vs. Kain

so how has YB been this week i mean im not trying to pvf or anything…ill leave that up to mags t1 forum warriors but just wondering as i haven’t seen much of you guys this week…i am assuming you guys are doing the new content as a lot of kain and im sure mags are as well just wish i could see more of ya cause its always nice to fight someone who don’t immediately run to the forums and sometimes even says nice fight

anti stealth trap…. finally a way to troll the thief who likes to go around contesting every keep or garrison wp….love the idea hopefully they make it so the trap wont trigger unless you are in stealth when you go over it….

took hills tonight with a group of maybe 20 on about 10 or so not huge numbers by any means…it did take 2 tries b4 we decided not to rush the bridge choke point inside inner and actually set up some siege to counter the 3 ac and ballista we did take it…Im using hills as example because well its got some very long choke points that an arrow cart is perfect for and if played right like the enemy did is hard to take with the rush in dumb zerg mentality it was rather easy once we changed our strategy to counter theirs…..like many others have already said get away from the dumb zerg mentality and start thinking of ways to make the enemy fight you on your terms not theirs…

i for one love this update..with it being harder to take fortified towers and garrisons you actually have to apply siege warfare to the game….protecting your supply lines just got more important then ever because they will be your saving grace or your downfall it also makes those camps everyone likes to flip back and forth 100 times a day more important as it should have been to begin with…..taking a castle garrison or tower should never be an easy task..well unless they are not defended then the side loosing it only has them self to blame for not properly defending it..everything in wvw has its place and it seems to be coming together..

if you stand in front of the guy saying our arrows will block out the sun you should die not dance around waiting for the ram to kill the door with the arrows lightly tapping you on the shoulder

yes it is a good idea to revamp this…ya the gold farmers will make a million excuses why they should leave it alone but really dungeons are supposed to be hard and somewhat challenging right? If you don’t wanna revamp it could you change the name to Gold Farming Zone so everyone will know that’s what its there for…

Ahhh nkuvu you put that into words better then me and that is the same one and area i was talkimg about…granted i kno how to dodge n did use it to do so it still knocked me around a few times b4 i got the timing right and after that did manage to kill the thing… it still took awhile beating on it to kill….btw i was using a lvl 13 necro so no stubility and minions kinda worked for a bit till they got killed….anyways point being that a lvl 2-3 wouldnt as the op said no fun at all

they might not be to much of a problem for the higher lvls and i didn’t have any problems with my guardian who is lvl 80 but as i was trying to lvl a low lvl character in the low lvl area as intended. they are just causing a lot of frustration and for any new people just trying to get the hang of the game i have a feeling they will not wanna deal with this….charr starting area used to be my favorite place to lvl lower toons but i must say that has changed as of now.

The idea iv come to like is NO CHEST FOR GUESTS sense the guesting system was put in place to play with friends. While that seemed like a good idea i think it has been being abused by the (farmers) of meta events and for the non hardcore player who is not willing to show up 20-30 min b4 events such as Jormag or Shadow Behemoth this pretty much means u wont get to do them and that is taking away from there gaming experience. I like this idea case it would allow you to still play with your friends as intended but reduce or eliminate the overflow caused by guests coming to get chests..

Some of us don’t use guesting and it seems we are getting punished for not using that system

Kaineng has been bugged for a few days…almost sense update i wanna say but might b wrong and the pre event chain doesn’t start at all from what i have seen