Guild Wars 2

ptitminou.6489:

Narsil.6579:

What I am really trying to say is if DR had stepped up to do their best during the SF prime time, we both could have held out against SF, but no, we were being attacked, either alliance or not, SF kept a steady hold of ppt, and DR could have prevented its borderland from being taken just like FC held out bay and farmed CoSa and StaR zergs at some point :P you guys gave me several exotics, I made around 10g one night ty

Yeah we made a lot of loot too. But what we were doing was testing your response, thats why we only hit 1 keep and not 2. Tell us about the real attack of StaR and CoSA on your garrison while you lost bay an hour and a half later.

PS: Gratz on your gold, just 12 more days like that and you can transfer over to SF. We’ll be…. expecting you.

I run with Deth, but I can also tell you about how we farmed CoSA and StaR constantly in our BL, in the water camp and in our bay most of the time, I used to be in SF, in the old days when King was around with Seven Mirror, Jugglez, Shield, Priest of Lyssa etc. I won’t leave FC though, I appreciate the invite, but I like good fights, If people like me and others left, you wouldn’t have much to fight :/ tl’dr : I was in King for a brief period of time, they taught me a lot in my fighting, but in Fc i learned organized fighting, I thank Seven and all the others for helping me when I needed training in roaming and dueling.

What I am really trying to say is if DR had stepped up to do their best during the SF prime time, we both could have held out against SF, but no, we were being attacked, either alliance or not, SF kept a steady hold of ppt, and DR could have prevented its borderland from being taken just like FC held out bay and farmed CoSa and StaR zergs at some point :P you guys gave me several exotics, I made around 10g one night ty

irishhaf.1692:

HAHAHAHA complaining about DR and then golem rushing us… golf clap FC well done… tools.

next time you wonder why DR hits you also on a regular basis.. .its stuff like this.

No don’t you dare play the victim card!!

You guys sided with SF and gave SF the advantage, had you put a fair fight against SF held your own stuff for abit, then when SF died in the week, maybe we could have rammed SF to the depths of the abyss. But no you fell for the old big guy allies with small guy to take on the other medium guy, the big guy gets the lead and flips the table on the small guy, and then takes the cake home for himself. Now DR and SF will both pay one way or another, if we need points and SF is holding I am sorry DR but you had your chance, now hand those points over!

FrozenHydra.7608:

I’m flattered you guys take so much time out of your busy schedules to insult [VLK]
It really warms my heart
<3

and VLK takes out time out of their own busy schedules to insult right back, we are flattered inb4 obligatory circlejerk!

Junkhaus.4301:

Well, VLK is pretty good at WvW for a roleplaying guild

Oooooooohhhhh burn, apply ointment to affected area

Fishbones.6914:

This thread is blossoming into something beautiful! I don’t think there’s much I can add except to say our FC forum warriors need to step their game up. I’ll start …. I fought 1 bad player on both ur servers so the rest of you must suck and I’m like always outnumbered but it doesn’t matter because I’m so good except hammer warrior to strong….. also outnumbered, kittens, siege, and loot bags.

I ran into some VLK wasn’t impressed, I drove 2 of them away, as for one of their warriors running that sword build was doing a ton of damage but haven’t been impressed, I miss Bllades though. As for Kain, I seen some good roamers, you guys have a good mesmer, we got locked into a never ending battle back and forth and we both are zerky lol .

ArkAngel.7940:

Narsil.6579:

Don’t try to reason with them, those extra 60 pugs are meaningless, of course 60 pugs in EB don’t do anything by VLK’s standard, VLK is the force driving this whole HoD win forward, because you know VLK is doing all the coordinating, those 60 man zerg pugs in EB are uncoordinated and don’t do anything else. On top of that those Rawr and etc pugs in our borderland and extra numbers are just uncoordinated pugs as well, VLK is doing all the work for their server and thus they have a right to feel that the other server is so bad and uncoordinated.

lol, this guy has a serious kitten for VLK

Nah its just boredom mixed with free time, it can make for some awesome drama fuel

Solstice.1097:

Brigg.3961:

Solstice.1097:

yea HoD numbers dont belong in bronze and their skill doesn’t belong in silver.

enjoy your bronze dolyaks hope it makes up for the next 7 weeks of boring fights you have.

this is sincere and does not mean offense don’t get me wrong. you have plenty of skilled players but your population doesn’t belong in any league. maybe season 2 will even things out.

Something tells me that Solstice was in one of them leet omega golems they had in their hills or bay… and they say Kain’s tactics suck

except i was in EB against your 60 man zerg with another 10-20 group running around.

wiping them like its nothing but the #s NEVER END.

VLK seems good but its pretty kittenin easy to push when you have a queued EB keeping most people from defending against your group.

Don’t try to reason with them, those extra 60 pugs are meaningless, of course 60 pugs in EB don’t do anything by VLK’s standard, VLK is the force driving this whole HoD win forward, because you know VLK is doing all the coordinating, those 60 man zerg pugs in EB are uncoordinated and don’t do anything else. On top of that those Rawr and etc pugs in our borderland and extra numbers are just uncoordinated pugs as well, VLK is doing all the work for their server and thus they have a right to feel that the other server is so bad and uncoordinated.

Blackjack.2083:

I’m slightly ashamed to admit this but I will be honest and admit that I recently transferred from NSP to HoD. I will be the first to also admit that this was a mistake and plan on going back to NSP at this end of this first week. However, I do have, in my opinion, some unbiased observations about HoD and for that matter FC after facing them on NSP and now on HoD.

First I will say that HoD has a lot of people. Way better numbers than what I ever saw on NSP and could rival most Silver League servers, at least in NA primetime. However, what they do with those numbers and how they utilize them is not that impressive. In EB it essentially equates to one massive zerg that runs around from one tower to the next. They don’t really upgrade towers, remotely even come close to laying siege effectively, slow response times, and a real lack of reacting to threats at two locations at once….even when they have the numbers to do so. They are currently relying on a massive numerical advantage but against any server in Silver League they would get destroyed.

I’m sure they won’t want to hear that but it’s the truth. They do have the potential to move up but they need to improve in those other areas in order to succeed. Even if they don’t need to do those things right now to win it would, at the very least, be good practice. The community seems good, people are nice enough, they have great numbers….but that stuff won’t be enough against Silver ranked servers. You have a much larger population than NSP and probably IoJ but I’d put money on either one of those servers beating you….and anyone above that wouldn’t even be close.

We know this, in fact it isn’t really to say HoD is bad or anything, but like I said, this brings us back to the SF days, when they would just have insane numbers and sometimes even tactics wouldn’t help at all, siege wouldn’t even budge a zerg that big, you’d kill their front row of 20 but that would be enough buffer to let the other 30-40 through.

If what VLK says is true and only the pugs come to EB. It kinda makes sense, had to avert an attack this morning against DX simultaneously. Bay and Hills were both down and a good sized number of 8-10 were on each side of the map, in my side it was atleast 8-10. took 4-6 of us to take em out, but they did some damage in the outer, they atleast seemed organized.

As for EB we had a mob of 60 or so go outside Veloka and build 2 trebs and 2 catas, had to fend them off by counter trebbing while repairs were constant, we drained supply so much but in reality with those numbers I couldn’t even understand why they didn’t split into 2 and hit us from the gate and from the wall, in fact we were saved somehow by the fact that I took out one of their trebs and then had to rally my pugs to kamikaze their other siege, mostly it was me and a few running in there to die in attempts to kill the siege, since the others preferred to keep an on going fight.

Justine.6351:

I’m not sure all the fuss about emotes and ganking. This is all out dirty fighting to win. People who haven’t accepted that are getting ganked/emoted. And BTW in hod bl at night the regulars are pretty smart at reading roamers trying to flip and will communicate even just a single roamer. Roamers can do a lot of DMG ;-) A lot of the bl night crew are roamers as well so they know when one item flips where the next target will be. If you don’t wanna be ganked trying to take even sentries don’t cap stuff in a straight line across the south.

Camp—>sentry/dolyaks—>camp—>sentry/dolyaks—>camp
Guaranteed before you even flip first camp someone saw swords and is chatting about it on map and where to meet up to wipe.

roamers? I haven’t once seen roamers, unless you mean the 15+ gank squad that goes around stalking any movement from an enemy group. Also I knew about your squad set out to take us, everywhere we went if an enemy spotted us , we knew that they knew and would soon send a gank squad since it happened in Kain and they followed us to HoD, then back to kain. So in those situations my group probably though I was drunk, but I kept taking stuff and changing tactics along the way whenever we were spotted even if by 1 HoD scout. As for roamers I haven’t seen any, because roaming is dangerous for other servers, for HoD its easy, since you have your main squads going for the bigger groups.

Justine.6351:

So because hod is winning the fairweathers stayed around and we have had large numbers at all times. You are losing because you don’t have any Fairweather’s because you are losing.

This sums it all up right?

Someone has to come in first each week. I’m sorry it doesn’t look like it will be fc or kaineng. Actually no I’m not sorry. Better luck to you next matchup. We shall see how you fair against the other servers in league, as well as how we do.

Oh and yes we have a few commanders from higher tiers training our guilds how to not get rolled. [Dx] is one and they are freaking insane. Pro tip, in zerg vs zerg, rule number 1 is don’t die, aka rallying enemy.

Finally lol yeah thats the part we understand, it’s alright we once had some tier guild come to our server to train us. One thing is we need to go back as a server to the old bunker faceroll tactics. Problem with that is we have lost a lot of core players and commanders. What you see now is those of us who stuck around. I used to refuse to zerg and even to command, but sometimes my borderland or EB is empty and I have to pop my tag to take or defend stuff. I’m not the best commander and probably kitten , but I try to help my server when I can. I used to roam alot either solo or duo or 4 man, but atm none of those work. Either way a group of 15+ come my way and so far I’ve seen mainly warrior+guardian+ele+necro groups, as a mesmer who can barely handle conditions that means bunkerng down, or going stealth, I don’t want to keep running from those numbers, so I will zerg for the time being since i have no choice.

Specially when you outrun a 15+ man zerg and some pugs start emoting you because you ran from a gank group, that isn’t classy my friend. It is the reason many from FC emote HoD, because your random pugs will emote us and that isn’t classy at all.

Mercabre.7123:

Kaamau.5341:

I had a lot of respect for VLK before this match up. When I thought of VLK I thought of some of the best group fighters and solo roamers I had ever seen. Now I just think of zerglings who cant win a 1 v 1 even vs an EXTREMELY zerg/large group combat oriented build. I even made a mockery of some in a 2 v 1 using the same build that before was pretty much defenseless in 1 v 1’s, let alone 1 v x. I’m sure that some of the old VLK members from FC’s previous match up with HoD are still left. But the people I’m running into now extremely disappoint me.

Fightclub Thursday 9pm.

I’m guessing that none of you that are complaining are actually WvWers. Just the pugs who think they know what they’re talking about, complaining because their pugs commanders can’t beat our pug commanders with the fair weather groups in EB.

“I bought a commander tag, I must be awesome” – whoever posted about them leading groups in EB, talking kitten. I’m not going to bother figuring out who that was, too pathetic.

I don’t see any of the WvW guilds that you all pointed out complaining about us. Too busy actually playing the game and knowing what they’re doing.

Great fights tonight WZ! Lots of fun!

Lol this guy, of course I WvW, I even roamed before your lot showed up. In fact roaming has been out of the question for most of us this week, because anywhere we go 15+ HoD storm us.

As for 1v1 , I used to do heavy dueling, back in the day I’ve dueled Bllades and Winters, and several others from HoD. So far I remember Bllades and Winters the most because they were the funnest duels I ever hard, very intense.

As for anything else, I only come to complain on forums once I’m done with my shift or I am taking a break. Unlike your guys putting 14 hours , I don’t have that luxury. In fact I have midterms atm.

The whole reason this thread argument ever started was due to someone from HoD claiming that FC needed to split its blob up and go take other stuff, because thats what HoD does and HoD has better organization and blah blah. The truth is FC can only pull together a blob enough to qeue one map and no more. Once we pull all our numbers together another map will be almost empty. Don’t flatter your self with organization and skill and etc. If you say that the pug commanders in EB from your side are pugs, that is a 60+ pug zerg I run up to daily, plus the 20-30 you guys field in any other server. Really your server is just numbers, even siege won’t stop the lot of you when you blob up and rush through something.

One thing you must realize FC is full of casuals, by some point we lose most of our numbers because everyone logs, by that point or BL and Eb are at the mercy of whoever decides to night crew. By 10pm or so things die down, and you must keep in mind if we are pulling from EB or FC, one or the other will be sacrificed, and in FC most pugs will go to EB most of the time.

You don’t need much planning to take our borderland because even if its guilds doing this, FC has to pull numbers from either its borderland or EB. Since the other pugs from HoD are still in EB either atking our keep or ogres or etc, this will make things kitten whoever is commanding, if word gets out that our keep is being hit hard or veloka.

You must realize that unlike HoD we can’t send a guild or 2 whenever to do anything unless they runnign with 20 members or so and even that is rare.

On top of that Zerguson’s Crossing was dubbed to us by your server. If I remember correctly FC has been in tier 8 in last place right next to ET. Now ET and FC are the or were the main contenders for Bronze league until HoD bailed on the silver leagues, Kain is understandable.

Call us Zerguson’s Crossing, but fact still stands, Your VLK guild or PHZE isn’t the one to glorify about HoD’s success, you owe it all to those extra pugs, from KATZ, to HE, to etc, and every print screen I can show you will prove that your guild isn’t the one doing amazing feats by itself, you have to thank those fairweathers and pugs for doing stuff allowing you to go over to other places and do damage, a luxury here in FC we rarely have.

P.S. Yeah i take the time to rage and you take the time to be defensive and so is your guildmate over there, I think there is a double standard here m8. But whatevers I payed for this game and I enjoy it, simple as that, now if they allowed 1v1 in wvw, and instead of AoE zerg fights, we have single way combat in openfield, that be awesome, also would mean endless fighting lol.

JahRo.6432:

Narsil.6579:

Mercabre.7123:

Narsil.6579:

Narsil.6579:

Please HoD i must know how do i get skill?? We have equal numbers and stuff but idk how we can hold you at times, your skill makes my computer lag half the time, it sucks to be a commander and play on a potato! Btw here is my zerg and your zerg fighting, and this is the mighty numbers we field.

here is my zerg after we all wped back.

Wow. EB, you must be pro. QQ about pug groups.
GvG us if you think you’re better or fightclub for 1v1’s Thursday 8pm. Until then, kitten. We’re fighting the real players of FC in your BL.

Lol yeah GvG gl Im mostly on from my guild, 1v1 sure I don’t mind, but that doesnt make your server so skilled , cut the crap, your server is full of fairweathers and PvE pugs, and its not even that, you can run your guild around and feel so pro. Why didn’t you use those tactics in Silver leagues, I for one think NSP has more guts then the lot of you. As for Kain, you guys are doing alright, I see your group holding out on HoD. Gj guys , HoD will most likely win 1st this season, but if you don’t want to fall to the tiers of AR and DR to push you down to last place, I’d fight for 3rd place if I were you. Fergy is going for 2nd or 1st if somehow we pull magical numbers this week.

Get your thong out a knot.

Is that your borderland? I hope it is because it must mean we have equal numbers, if it’s my borderland, then I must say thanks , because we just pulled numbers from EB to go defend our own borderland which you were taking, why don’t you post a prntscrn of the 335 ppt you had and the half slice of every other map please..

“Wow. EB, you must be pro. QQ about pug groups.
GvG us if you think you’re better or fightclub for 1v1’s Thursday 8pm. Until then, kitten. We’re fighting the real players of FC in your BL.”

Also even I command in my BL at times, seriously borderlands don’t make a difference, problem about my server is , we can’t be everywhere at any time, usually we have to pull from somewhere and that means either way our borderland will always be on heavy fire most of the time.

As for VLK Idc about the lot of you, Bllades is alright and Winters, the rest I cant care much for, and in fact this isn’t a front to your guild, but the whole notion of fair numbers and skill, same crap I told NSP, same I will tell you, just because you have massive numbers, and you run around with your guild taking stuff, doesn’t make your more or less skilled, you just have numbers, meaning those extra pugs behind or in front of you, they are the ones making a ton of work as well. Don’t give all the credit to your organized guilds and stuff, its all just numbers flocking around a blue dorito. If we had equal numbers and we qeued all maps as well, then we could talk about skill and superior tactics.

Mercabre.7123:

Narsil.6579:

Narsil.6579:

Please HoD i must know how do i get skill?? We have equal numbers and stuff but idk how we can hold you at times, your skill makes my computer lag half the time, it sucks to be a commander and play on a potato! Btw here is my zerg and your zerg fighting, and this is the mighty numbers we field.

here is my zerg after we all wped back.

Wow. EB, you must be pro. QQ about pug groups.
GvG us if you think you’re better or fightclub for 1v1’s Thursday 8pm. Until then, kitten. We’re fighting the real players of FC in your BL.

Lol yeah GvG gl Im mostly on from my guild, 1v1 sure I don’t mind, but that doesnt make your server so skilled , cut the crap, your server is full of fairweathers and PvE pugs, and its not even that, you can run your guild around and feel so pro. Why didn’t you use those tactics in Silver leagues, I for one think NSP has more guts then the lot of you. As for Kain, you guys are doing alright, I see your group holding out on HoD. Gj guys , HoD will most likely win 1st this season, but if you don’t want to fall to the tiers of AR and DR to push you down to last place, I’d fight for 3rd place if I were you. Fergy is going for 2nd or 1st if somehow we pull magical numbers this week.

Narsil.6579:

Please HoD i must know how do i get skill?? We have equal numbers and stuff but idk how we can hold you at times, your skill makes my computer lag half the time, it sucks to be a commander and play on a potato! Btw here is my zerg and your zerg fighting, and this is the mighty numbers we field.

here is my zerg after we all wped back.

Please HoD i must know how do i get skill?? We have equal numbers and stuff but idk how we can hold you at times, your skill makes my computer lag half the time, it sucks to be a commander and play on a potato! Btw here is my zerg and your zerg fighting, and this is the mighty numbers we field.

Noobie.1073:

Mercabre.7123:

Our CORE guilds are not grouping together, but talking to each other while in the same map to have two groups of 30+ players instead of one with 60-70. This way we can hit two places at once while the enemy has to run back and forth trying to be in two places at once as is the nature of having only one commander in the map or even two but both playing their own game regardless of what the other commander is doing and not coordinating assaults to hit two keeps not just at once, but to start at the same time. .

I can’t help but laugh at this. Your core WvW groups can field 2 groups of 30+ on a single map and you only marginally outnumber FC? I’ve only seen FC blob in Eternal Battlegrounds and run mostly 15-20 people in borderlands, even in HoD borderlands lol. I’m sure FC has fielded more than 15-20 but that’s been the most I’ve personally seen from them when i’m on.

No harm no foul, Kaineng is well aware that we are not a factor in this match-up, however, we will fight anything close to remotely evened numbers (which is once in a few hours maybe).

On another note, I do like fighting the Ranger and Engi combo from [BRO] and the D/D ele/guardian/necro trio from [GT]. You guys are good together and make roaming a bit more fun since I won’t be killed in .15 seconds.

Thanks!

^ This , HoD claims ot have multiple guilds and multiple commanders, sad part about FC, we don’t have that. Yes we have WZ, Deth, Edge, etc. The sad reality is most other guilds add the wvw casually, meaning yeah they wvw, but they mainly PvE. Our server doesn’t have many big wvw guilds, just few clusters here and there, and then the main big ones. The problem is we don’t field those numbers like HoD in terms of a single guild, but we make up by small groups of guilds running alongside. Another problem is if we have Guild X running its group and Guild X leaves the scene, that cuts our numbers really low and bam we are now outnumbered, meanwhile VLK and such can field multiple numbers and be in multiple borderlands.

Tossed Fish.7380:

FC seems to have a difficult time trying to defend 2 keeps at once. Yesterday after all night of split pushing everything between 2 major guilds, yeah those 2 guilds will eventually turn into 50+ when the only thing left on the map to take is your Bay.

Bllades also means between the BLs. Not just on a single map. We have a guild defending the home land while trying to lower second place’s ppt.

I think the numbers are pretty even. Haven’t seen a major coordinated guild on FC besides [WV] and [EDGE]

Not sure if trolling or is serious.

Solstice.1097:

no sure if liking new mesmer build or just running into lotsa newbs.

Dire way too op bro..

Bllade.1029:

I tell you what between HoD and FC’s numbers were pretty similar.

Main difference between HoD and FC is that HoD is usually more spread out, using multiple medium sized guilds across 3 borderlands. (Unless EB, that’s always a cluster !@#$ regardless.)

FC usually runs in one or two massive groups moving amongst all four maps, most likely due to every fair weather on the planet gettin’ all giddy about these new WvW achievement points and chests.

Total numbers overall, yeah i’d say HoD may have more people. But I wouldn’t say we vastly outnumber FC overall. I’d say we just spread our peanut butter much differently.

Kaineng, idk what to tell you guys, crappy hand you’ve been dealt.

Hey Bllades but I must disagree. Yesterday I popped into EB since roaming solo or duo is a death sentence atm. I come into EB and there is no commander from our side. Everything is being held by a ragtag group. So I popped my tag and commanded for several hours. I can tell you that HoD far outnumbers FC in size.

I had to blitzkrieg through stuff and make sure to keep the main stuff safe. You have no idea how outnumbered or even how hard it is to keep the morale of a group up against 60+ zerg coming your way, and meanwhile my 20 man zerg is trying to get a hold of something.

That wasn’t the only problem, I tried to go to different borderlands when our EB stuff was under control, and you still had enough numbers to outman my ragtag group of 8 or so who had to avoid your blob every Bl we went your zerg would show up to try and fight us.

Sad part is you think we have equal numbers as your server, but the reality is we have to keep tactics up all the time and keep you guessing, or else we won’t stand a chance. You greatly outnumber us, and you saying how we have 2 main blobs , well guess what that is the whole we can muster lol. Compared to your specialized units who are still 30 man blobs that run around every Bl as well.

So please don’t try to reverse the tables here. Enjoy your victory , but I will gladly see you go silver next season and get NSP back, atleast NSP had numbers but they weren’t as big, they were just organized better. Your lot reminds me of the old SF days, no matter how many we kill, more and more show up.

lunyboy.8672:

Narsil.6579:

Bllade.1029:

Narsil.6579:

Solstice.1097:

KN is too kitten to hit HoD ironically if they would this match would be close. Week 6 HoD/FC/SF is the real championship match.

This would have been way more interesting. No one from any server will stray from the zerg, if i catch a HoD or KN player wander a bit from his zerg, he wps or runs at full speed. This match is boring, Kn is a kitten who won’t defend any of its stuff or EB for that matter. HoD is dominating Kn and taking its stuff, while Kn comes to our Bl instead of taking care of their own stuff. Atleast SF would have given HoD a fair fight. Lets not forget that SF would turn on us for PPT though lol.

Welcome to Leagues, where fair weathers hump the legs of the all mighty blue diamond, and roam groups stop roaming because no one else is roaming because they get run over by the people who use to roam that aren’t roaming but blobbing.

yeah Im not saying your server is bad, just too many PvEr’s and fairweathers out there. I ran into several people that did 1v1 me and then I killed them. Soon after no one would stray from the zerg anymore. On top of that I have to ditch my roaming build because I just get spammed Immob from warriors, seriously every group I come across i mainly get killed by warriors somehow immobing me to death, even my stun breaker doesn’t work. I have to spend 2 stun breakers before I break free and sad part is by then my blink will reveal me…

it’s a warrior trait called leg specialist in conjunction with sword mh1. Also, you play a mesmer, soooo pvp easy mode gogogogo.

I hope you know what you are talking about lol. If you think a mesmer can pvp easy mode, sure against 1 person, but zerg wise, please make a mesmer play against warriors spamming sword , come back to me and teach me the build, plase it should be so easy, k thnx I will be waiting. Oh my bad I forgot you are a guardian, zerg easy mode GG.

Bllade.1029:

Narsil.6579:

Solstice.1097:

KN is too kitten to hit HoD ironically if they would this match would be close. Week 6 HoD/FC/SF is the real championship match.

This would have been way more interesting. No one from any server will stray from the zerg, if i catch a HoD or KN player wander a bit from his zerg, he wps or runs at full speed. This match is boring, Kn is a kitten who won’t defend any of its stuff or EB for that matter. HoD is dominating Kn and taking its stuff, while Kn comes to our Bl instead of taking care of their own stuff. Atleast SF would have given HoD a fair fight. Lets not forget that SF would turn on us for PPT though lol.

Welcome to Leagues, where fair weathers hump the legs of the all mighty blue diamond, and roam groups stop roaming because no one else is roaming because they get run over by the people who use to roam that aren’t roaming but blobbing.

yeah Im not saying your server is bad, just too many PvEr’s and fairweathers out there. I ran into several people that did 1v1 me and then I killed them. Soon after no one would stray from the zerg anymore. On top of that I have to ditch my roaming build because I just get spammed Immob from warriors, seriously every group I come across i mainly get killed by warriors somehow immobing me to death, even my stun breaker doesn’t work. I have to spend 2 stun breakers before I break free and sad part is by then my blink will reveal me…

Solstice.1097:

KN is too kitten to hit HoD ironically if they would this match would be close. Week 6 HoD/FC/SF is the real championship match.

This would have been way more interesting. No one from any server will stray from the zerg, if i catch a HoD or KN player wander a bit from his zerg, he wps or runs at full speed. This match is boring, Kn is a kitten who won’t defend any of its stuff or EB for that matter. HoD is dominating Kn and taking its stuff, while Kn comes to our Bl instead of taking care of their own stuff. Atleast SF would have given HoD a fair fight. Lets not forget that SF would turn on us for PPT though lol.

SQLOwns.7316:

I don’t get it. How is the winner decided in week 1?

Basically as it stands, every league’s top contenders are being place on one another right away, the first row of every league is the 3 highest ranking servers in terms of either rank or coverage pitted against one another. Since most other servers don’t stack or compare to the ranking or coverage of said servers, who ever wins first place of the first week, basically will win, because after every week, every other server will get roflstomped by those 3 , but the winner of the first week will have that +1 already under his belt. If that is the case…

I feel like Bronze league will be interesting, since most of the servers aren’t as densely populated we might see some even matches, although if some servers completely lose more numbers, we might see a faceroll for several…

For me this league with the introduction of Kenny will be a tough one. Top contenders could be HoD / FC/ Kenny, based on ranking and so far the numbers of wins and loses. Fergy has gone several weeks topping in first place and at least second, Pulled a great victory on SF and DH, has devastated DR/DH.

Due to massive guild loss from several servers jumping to silver and gold league first place contenders, at the same time FC hasn’t had any influx of major guilds, rather a small portion.

My thoughts is top tier guilds who won’t want to be in qeue for hours will jump down to bronze, either filling up Kaening or HoD based on ranking. If lucky Fergy might get some love. If this happens, it will be a stompfest.

At the same time we might see an increase from PvE players trying to get some AP and thus we might see major catastrophes , as massive zergs from PvE pugs get steamrolled by WvW veteran zergs, and it will be interesting for roamers, since most players might be easy pickings.

I would love to place my money of Fergy, but my instincts tell me not to trust anything otherwise. I fear one or two servers will be bandwagoned pretty soon..

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Narsil.6579:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

LOL, see the way he tries to make himself look all big and bad by stating it has multiple accounts on multiple servers? Must be those high tier tactics at work.

It kinda is a good tactic , make an account on every server + leagues = reward chests = profit, therefore if any server wins, he just logs on that account on that server and does a victory dance. If only I was that rich :/

I guess. Seems an awful lot like buying gems for gold and just buying your way to a win…

Although if you have the resources, it guarantees that you can never lose, ever.

EFWinters.5421:

Narsil.6579:

EFWinters.5421:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

I Want to give a shout-out to FC and ET for how much they have improved since the Glicko Ghetto days.

I was proud of your guys when you fought so well while SF had you outmanned all the time. And now with how well both of your servers fight while moving up. We are brother’s forged in the heat, pressure, and misery of the old Ghetto and I for one hope it is the three of us fighting it out for the top spot.

To everyone in the Bronze League, good luck and gods speed (wish that WAS a buff).

Those two servers literally improved nada. They rose as DR / AR / GoM all lost massive amounts of people. They are still the same servers they used to be back in T8.

If we are still the same how come we are beating servers who once beat us?? since we were in the last tier, we had crap coverage, crap numbers, at one point our nightcrew was composed of 9 or so ..

So if we stayed the same and bigger servers lost numbers, shouldn’t we be on equal footing? how come we have beat every server so far? aside NSP and ET?

The logic in your argument is lacking, so is the fact you haven’t been in any of our matchups, and aside you have no clue how many guilds and commanders we have lost , we barely have ever gotten any transfers, and aside from that, we have made it on our own.

GG logic

Okay I’m gonna give you about 3 minutes to delete or edit this post… After that no guarantees.

Err I don’t mind , please enlighten me oh wise one! Also you are from, SBI lol no wonder you are feeling all mighty, GG , just go enjoy your 1st place chest and don’t come back bro, we don’t need your 2 cents in our thread, go to the silver thread and say how skilled your server is

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

LOL, see the way he tries to make himself look all big and bad by stating it has multiple accounts on multiple servers? Must be those high tier tactics at work.

It kinda is a good tactic , make an account on every server + leagues = reward chests = profit, therefore if any server wins, he just logs on that account on that server and does a victory dance. If only I was that rich :/

EFWinters.5421:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

I Want to give a shout-out to FC and ET for how much they have improved since the Glicko Ghetto days.

I was proud of your guys when you fought so well while SF had you outmanned all the time. And now with how well both of your servers fight while moving up. We are brother’s forged in the heat, pressure, and misery of the old Ghetto and I for one hope it is the three of us fighting it out for the top spot.

To everyone in the Bronze League, good luck and gods speed (wish that WAS a buff).

Those two servers literally improved nada. They rose as DR / AR / GoM all lost massive amounts of people. They are still the same servers they used to be back in T8.

If we are still the same how come we are beating servers who once beat us?? since we were in the last tier, we had crap coverage, crap numbers, at one point our nightcrew was composed of 9 or so ..

So if we stayed the same and bigger servers lost numbers, shouldn’t we be on equal footing? how come we have beat every server so far? aside NSP and ET?

The logic in your argument is lacking, so is the fact you haven’t been in any of our matchups, and aside you have no clue how many guilds and commanders we have lost , we barely have ever gotten any transfers, and aside from that, we have made it on our own.

GG logic

Charles.3064:

I won’t go Pewpew or Lukian. I’m a PPT person not a holding and maintaining by camping. Once the towers and keeps were fully forted I was going to allow DH and DR to take back camps for their PPTs and then just stay out of their borderlands until this week’s matchup ends. I’m looking to make it so we can win but fairly and allow the other servers to have fun as well.

I’ve been hurt before Q.Q, maybe I can leave the past and learn to trust again, I’ll trust you fox-kun. #Fox2013 Fox’sCrossing #WhatDoesTheFoxSay

Charles.3064:

FC is more murderous. This is what I, Fox, and a group of FC night crew did on the night of 10-16-2013 from 3am to 7am server time. Roneth and all them deserve the credit for doing the work, all I did was organize us. Fergs….I’m proud of you all! We managed to take all our our BL and all of EB

Bro don’t you go Lukian and Pewpew on us….. but yeah spawn camping is fun, I get why DH and GoM used to do it to us now…

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

Narsil.6579:

I got lost after poker and starcraft,

To put it into context of GW2:

1. Playing ‘The Meta Build’ in Guild Wars 2 means you’re playing the most effective/efficient/fotm build possible.
2. Playing ‘The Metagame’ implies you’ve taken your opponents into consideration when making your build (IE. Not the meta build)

Therefore, by all accounts, these sentences make sense:

“I am playing the metagame, by using a build that is anti-meta [not meta]”
and
“I am playing the meta build. Because I hate the metagame.”

I’m not saying the sentence is wrong. I’m saying the word ‘meta’, in its current context, is silly

I play rouge, meaning my build uses the current mechanisms of burst and mobility , but i keep anti meta mechanisms, which is almost every build, but I take into count which builds are heaviest atm, and I make a rouge build, meaning a build not many run or know, and so I am able to beat most I come across

I got lost after poker and starcraft, but yes, I guess maybe the word meta and metagaming are used incorrectly, but the concepts are still there. The most viable build is the one that uses the rulings (Patches / buffs/ nerfs) to make the most out of its build. Those builds become known as cheese builds or fotm builds, every runs them and they are easy or very powerful. Those who decide to play against those, will implement mechanisms to negate such tactics. That is how a game works out. Another factor is that fast and slow lose meaning in this game. For example Player B is running a bunker perma regen and retaliation build, Player A can’t seem to burst player B fast enough, player B is deemed a bunker and boring to fight, player A runs away. Condition is supposed to be damage over time, while burst is supposed to be direct massive damage. Problem is that in the end those don’t seem to work well in game much, and thus people only prefer a build useful if it kills something in 15 seconds, otherwise it is a boring fight and not worth it. In a different scenario that would lock the players in combat and neither could leave, the bunker would be preferred over the burst since it can sustain the most. Sadly this game had an awesome concept about two different style forms but in the end, it comes down how to kill your opponent fast enough, there is no reward for slowly hammering your opponent to death. Therefore the system in this game is very much burst oriented. Even if you use conditions, those conditions can kill someone quick. Zerging is a whole other issue, for me pvp can be very messy at times.

irishhaf.1692:

Wonderful way to finish the week spawn camped… :/

Sorry I was looking for the VGD tag, anyways my buddy says the detective guy did HS spam him. To make matters worse my friend was dueling an engi and the thief jumped in. My friend says he doesn’t like forum drama so he will kill the VGD guy when he pops up.

I learned the term meta from children’s card games. In those years of my life, the phrase referred to the current structure and style of the way the games were played. If it was a slow or fast meta, it meant that the strategies were based around fast burst decks, or slow burn decks. A fast meta meant that most strategies revolved around getting your opponent down fast and it meant that the pace of the game was fast. A slow meta was a more slow paced game, usually took longer, but you dealt damage over time, until finally you dealt the final blow.

In other terms meta can refer to the predominant usage of a certain strategy, so in a stun meta, the point is to render your opponent useless. In Gw2 people will use this term for whatever build they run across the most.

Now another thing is meta can refer to the current structure and ruling that is set up, the current meta can be defined by which strategy is most viable atm due to nerfs and buffs. So usually which ever build is most viable and thus played the most, that is how people will play meta. Playing anti-meta, is building around defeating those that use the meta to their favor, exploiting their weakness. Rouge builds are usually builds that most don’t play and can catch others off guard, so they don’t run the ftom build.

Just my 2 cents.

Solstice.1097:

Last night my guild got a group together of 5-10 players and went looking for fights in DH BL. We ended up capping the whole place with almost no resistance. This was around 9p-11p pacific.

Where’d you guys go!? It seems like FC is one of the only servers that still comes out and fights at the end of matches. Prove me wrong come out and play tonight!

500 ppt at some point in the morning , you guys did a number on them , congrats it’s the first time I’ve ever seen FC this ahead in WvW. The tables have turned finally for our server , I remember when SF, GoM, DH, DR, IoJ would almost smack us around, even HoD. Finally we have been liberated from the shackles of the t8 realm

Gab Superstar.4059:

Narsil.6579:

English isn’t my first language, and so my grammar is off, but the point is, your friend shouldn’t have started something out of a random event, it’s like If i posted every time in which I killed DH or DR baddies, and then came to the forums and flamed them about it, very unprofessional.

My preliminary investigations into the matter reveals several posts written by you that would contradict the above statement. Please see page one (1) of your post history for details.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

What preliminary investigations? As for English not being my first language it’s true, lol if you are detective please tell me you have more proof that I am contradicting myself, as for another language, here : Vos sois un tonto , por favor de dejar la tonteria en otro sitio, no sigas con esta estupidezes gracias

Alyrico.3674:

Narsil.6579:

so if you talk crap , you better make sure you as hell you can talk it.

Judging based on my last post, I’m pretty sure I’m quite capable of talking crap. The rest of your post made even less sense than this statement so I think I’ll stop quoting you there. Either you are illiterate and rely way to heavily on the thesaurus for synonyms, or you are really bad at forming coherent responses while angered/flustered. If it is the latter, you should cool down a bit, and go back and try again, cause your first attempt scored about a 2/10.

English isn’t my first language, and so my grammar is off, but the point is, your friend shouldn’t have started something out of a random event, it’s like If i posted every time in which I killed DH or DR baddies, and then came to the forums and flamed them about it, very unprofessional.

Alyrico.3674:

Narsil.6579:

Gab Superstar.4059:

torridstoic.7492:

The only times I’ve ever fought AD was when they hit me 4+v1 (standard for them). If you were in that group, grats in killing me in 5 seconds. I know you transferred to CD because your guildies -in [NA] confirmed it. [PD] is no longer on DH, so you don’t have to worry about me being carried by them. I’ve posted my character names and pictures, but I have yet to see the same from you. I’m ready any time, Gab. ~Thintre

Hello. Add said Mireille to your friend’s list. See if my account name comes up.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

I wouldn’t sweat it Tinthre this kid sounds like a runner to me, he probably is one of those kids who walks on forums but never backs it up in the field. I’ve fought you and as a mesmer v mesmer its always nice to see someone good as you in fights, now that was a long time ago in the old meta, idk how you run these days, I have changed from the old phant days.

As for this dude I wouldn’t sweat trying to pick a fight on him, he probably will bring a group to gank you , and then chase you down when you are on low health, throw siege on you and feel boss.

Or he probably would tail it somehow claiming he suspected individuals coming behind him and he knew from his sources he would be outnumbered, yadda yadda, some bull along the way, don’t waste a heal on this one. If you do fight him kick his kitten for me bro, Ill gladly do it.

Judging based on your post history and the fact that you use terminology like “kid” while trying to come off as really casual and cool, I’m assuming you are like 14 years old, and also really bad. Also judging based on the fact that I have fought Ferg probably a dozen times before and never heard of you or your guild, despite you having “Ferg Elite” in your forum sig does wonders to confirming my previous assumption.

P.S. Please try to limit your response to less than 10 paragraphs, I really don’t care enough to read more than a 1 sentence response anyways, so you will just be wasting your time.

Toodles.

I was just camping the DH and DR spawns in EB and I didnt even bring a zerg lol, also from your speculation I don’t roam in EB much so I wouldn’t count on you seeing me much if you zerg in EB alot , I mainly solo roam in FC, DR and DH borderlands and by you saying I am bad, doesn’t really prove much except the fact that you haven’t fought me yet, as for the words kid, I’m using it to point out the person is using the whole aspect of roleplaying as a detective, that aspect I mean, a grown man wouldn’t RP as a detective in his right mind. As for me being cool and casual, I never did say I was either, as for being a baddie, umm that depends since I’ve earned 165 ranks in WvW alone without the zergball, and I have 1.4k hours played on my mesmer, not saying I’m good or a pro, but I atleast know what I can and can’t do against others. I’m always open to duels , but if you don’t believe in the whole 1v1 duels, its fine don’t call me bad until you assure me that you aren’t bad yourself. You might be saying : “So tough behind a screen and a keyboard, what a nerd”, nah I just enjoy the game, and I am very defensive about my guildmates, we are few and we roam, so if you talk crap , you better make sure you as hell you can talk it.

P.S. I fixed some of the wording, since I was typing in a hurry before I went to class. enjoy

Woah 475 ppt I don’t even…

Gab Superstar.4059:

torridstoic.7492:

The only times I’ve ever fought AD was when they hit me 4+v1 (standard for them). If you were in that group, grats in killing me in 5 seconds. I know you transferred to CD because your guildies in [NA] confirmed it. [PD] is no longer on DH, so you don’t have to worry about me being carried by them. I’ve posted my character names and pictures, but I have yet to see the same from you. I’m ready any time, Gab. ~Thintre

Hello. Add said Mireille to your friend’s list. See if my account name comes up.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

I wouldn’t sweat it Tinthre this kid sounds like a runner to me, he probably is one of those kids who walks on forums but never backs it up in the field. I’ve fought you and as a mesmer v mesmer its always nice to see someone good as you in fights, now that was a long time ago in the old meta, idk how you run these days, I have changed from the old phant days.

As for this dude I wouldn’t sweat trying to pick a fight on him, he probably will bring a group to gank you , and then chase you down when you are on low health, throw siege on you and feel boss.

Or he probably would tail it somehow claiming he suspected individuals coming behind him and he knew from his sources he would be outnumbered, yadda yadda, some bull along the way, don’t waste a heal on this one. If you do fight him kick his kitten for me bro, Ill gladly do it.

insanemaniac.2456:

DAMMIT they fixed leg specialist

it was so fun(ny)

kitten was Op was that the immob spam thing? with no ic and stuff, I got earlier today by a warrior , a ranger and a necro, warrior got me with that peram immob i got rained on, could have gotten the necro but oh well…

Well I don’t really laugh at people who wipe in mass to me, just when i have a small zerg chasing me, only for me to outrun them and whoever is still trying to get a piece of me, if its atleast 3 Ill turn around and take them head on, I will laugh when one of them runs away, although I do feel bad if their fallen comrades take it as a sign to get angry with.

As for thief I am going with thief for your class, you could be an ele or something, idk, but my safest bet is a thief, so the primary part wasn’t that you were good , just the fact that you trolled someone, which is pretty common in game, so I guess it happens to alot of people, I personally avoid childish actions, and instead only laugh when I have 2+ wipe to me or run from me, only to bring their whole server for me when they get the chance.

Gab Superstar.4059:

It appears the challenge of interpreting my messages and forming a coherent response to them is too much for you. Because of this, I have prepared a simple and easy-to-follow recount of the events.

• I kill Necro (alone)
• I drop siege on Necro
• Skip forward in time
• Necro, on multiple occasions, dives zergs alone in attempts to kill me

And just to reiterare: The case was closed as soon as my blades severed her twisted spine.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

P.S.
The amount of professions that can use daggers is more than two.
D.S.

• I drop siege on Necro , There we go was that so hard to get out of you? and you are a thief lol of course spam that D/P or D/D if you got the skill to play S/D. Anyways he was only coming after you for the fact you trolled him earlier, nothing more, and saying that he zergdived to kill you is well his choice, heck im a Mesmer id go for you either way and outrun the zerg just as well. Necros on the other hand lack stealth and are sometimes are prone to be grounded in one spot for most of the fights.

As for a thief you can just spam stealth and run around until you can reset and return to the fight, he doesn’t even main necro which is the fun part. Anyways as a detective idk what you were trying to point out but there was never any case to be proven here other then the fact you could have just said: Hey guys I dropped siege on someone, they came back to kill me and my zerg killed them Ha! GG HP necro.. but no you almost made this more complicated then it had to be.

Also you said Centurion’s Claw meaning your either a Thief or an Ele in which case it is obvious those are primary targets in a zerg, they deal a ton of damage besides a necro, and necros aren’t that easy to kill, so there again nothing special about you, you are just another zergling, taking credit for a kill in the middle of a zerg is like saying Ha! I beat that guy up, when clearly you had the Odds of outnumbering the other person in your favor, see my point?

Again the truth could be he did target you as the main target, but then again point proven from before, your siege and the zerg killed the necro, in fact idk why you would feel the need to be a special snowflake in the middle of a zerg to be so important to target, and from fact, anyone in a zerg is a fair target, means the person next to you, behind you , in front of you etc could have been a target, in life there are coincidences deal with them. Unless you give me proof of him raging at you in party chat, or in whisper, or you emoting him, or something to give him a reason to target you then I would believe it, but it would also clarify for you the cause of said rage.