I’ve been trying for weeks to find a group for Arah explorable (only have path 1 finished).
Would be more than happy to find people interested, EU server here.
Would you still consider it a good change if , instead of killing it the first try, you would have wiped for two hours only on that boss? Not to mention it takes hours to find a party in this game. Would it still be a good change then?
It is a good change because it forces you to rethink. “Why did I die? How can I stop that from happening?” Using waypoint and rushing to him does nothing, it won’t teach you anything.
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You could have done that prior to the change. There was absolutely no need for the WP-rushing to be removed for you to rethink the tactic.
Would you still consider it a good change if , instead of killing it the first try, you would have wiped for two hours only on that boss? Not to mention it takes hours to find a party in this game. Would it still be a good change then?
So I read they will never add a dungeon finder per say, just make improvements on how to find dungeon parties.. whatever that means.
Anyone else have trouble finding groups. In my case in particular.. I still have to do half the dungeons in story mode. No one in the area ever seems to be running dungeons let alone story.
I want to complete them and see what happens, but I am left just sitting there spamming LFG for hours with no response..
Extremely difficult to find groups.
You have to wait for hours spamming Lion’s Arch to try to get a group. Same if you are in the zone where the dungeon is located.
If there isn’t something better other than “developers said” to use as a valid argument, skipping enemies remains an exploit, just like “wp-rezzing” is one.
They should just add a dungeon finder and not force people into a website that only gets you gold-sellers spam instead of actual help with finding a group.
An automatic group finder should have been added, cause it’s really not fun at all waiting for hours and spamming Lion’s Arch chat in search of a group.
In both situations you have people trying to cheat their way out of dealing with whatever the dungeon throws at them. Enemies that can be skipped are a design issue just as much as WP-rushing is. So if one gets the attention of the designer, so should the other one.
By describing skipping as “cheating”, you have indirectly classified skipping as a form of exploit. Skipping (as in running thru mobs and breaking leash) is not an exploit.
It is an exploit if it is done in a dungeon. You can and should be allowed to do that in the open world.
Claiming that “breaking leash” in an instanced map is “acceptable behavior” is admitting a design issue. Or maybe there is a new trend now amongst the game designers to create content that is required to be ignored.
In both situations you have people trying to cheat their way out of dealing with whatever the dungeon throws at them. Enemies that can be skipped are a design issue just as much as WP-rushing is. So if one gets the attention of the designer, so should the other one.
it’s much easier to find group by using auto group finder, that why advanced games use this system.
what ruin community, IMO, is use of third website to find group (I find it outdated as minimum); I don’t see how GF can ruin anything, beside you gonna take random guy from map channel anyhow.
hours of spam of LA chat ruins whole game, or you find it fun to type LGF instate of playing?
I guess modern game should use all modern features.
So if it’s not major tech problem, please add tool for dungeon group.
Is this “WP rushing” solution going to be implemented into WvWvW or SPvP as well?I mean if it’s such a great thing to have for PVE dungeons, why not expand this brilliant idea to the whole game?
Do you even play this game? It’s already hard to find a group willing to go all the way through a dungeon with this patch it will be nearly impossible….
I seriously doubt that the developers play this game. Instead of removing the skipping exploit, they ruin the boss fights. And still no proper Dungeon Finder.
I wonder if they know that it takes hours to find a group for Arah explorable…
I don’t think this game is doing well, not sure about being completely “dead” but it does lack certain features that all successful MMO games today have.
You need to start following a very simple advice: read the bloody forums.
All they said was that they are working on improving their current tool, there was no mention on when such a tool will be implemented other then “it’s coming”. And stop spreading lies about that website: no official has ever said that it is “the beta” for what they’s working on.
Also, you probably never played Warcraft prior to the Dungeon Finder cause if you had, you would know how useful it is. Last time I logged in that game was less than a month ago, and it’s pretty much like I said:10% in the city, rest out there in the world.
I will not repeat why a Dungeon Finder is so helpful with exploring, you can pay attention to the forums and you will find out.
The Dungeon Finder in Warcraft is a great example of how having such a finder helps with exploration, actually.
Most of a server population is out there in the world, instead of being stuck in a city hub (it’s probably less than 10% that still stays in a major city and those are mostly people that get around playing the auction house or recruiting new players for their guilds.) And while out there, exploring, you actually meet new people.
Honestly, if you can’t play with new people, perhaps a MMO game is not the game for you. I’m sure there are other games out there that you might enjoy. For now, this game really needs a proper Dungeon Finder.
Well, a instant teleport is needed in any type of dungeon finder. If you are one that stands in LA or in front of a dungeon entrance, that is your own choice. I rather do other things and when the party is ready, just get teleported in that instance.
Completely agree. This will help tremendously with exploration, because you can complete the dungeon and then get back on track with exploring the world.
If it’s anything other than a proper Dungeon Finder, it will be a dead game as far as I’m concerned.
However, if they choose to go the right way by implementing a Dungeon Finder or the completely wrong way with an “improved” LFG tool, I would very much like to know why they made that choice (whichever it will be).
The only thing that is need is a proper Dungeon Finder, not some “improved” LFG tool.
The one that lets you queue up for a group and then you can just go around exploring and meeting new people.
The funny thing is how some people think that it was the tool itself that made people change their behavior. Rude people were rude prior to the Dungeon Finder.
Also, no one is forcing you to use the tool, you can still play with your friends, simple as that.
I wonder if you’ve noticed that there is a chat channel used specifically for finding groups (it’s the Lion’s Arch map chat) or perhaps I misunderstand the meaning of a “chat channel dedicated”
Given the experience with having to spam a specific map chat just to find a group, I would say “no” to a “dedicated chat channel”.
Making a group for a dungeon seems harder to do than the dungeon itself. A Dungeon Finder would make grouping a lot easier and there are no downsides to having it implemented.
I didnt play WoW, but I think Dungeon finder was something like this.
That Dungeon Finder was one of the best things that they added.
It was great because it removed all the waiting time in cities just spamming for groups. While prior to adding it you basically had to wait for hours, now it just takes around 15 minutes to find a group and you don’t have to wait in a city anymore: you can just go around exploring or gathering materials.
The biggest hit was to so called “pro-players” who just couldn’t have a grip on a server anymore.
And another thing: you can choose not to use the Dungeon Finder in Warcraft if you want to play only with specific people.
So yes, please add a proper Dungeon Finder to this game.
Too many people leave dungeons. and its hard to recuit people to get the dungeon done. I suggest a dungeon finder. for people who want to dungeon alot. When someones leaves the party there must be a new player who can get our dungeon done.
Dungeon finder tool is great, because you get a group formed up while you can still keep exploring and not waste an hour spamming for members. Players still get to choose who they group up with by simply not using a dungeon finder if they don’t want to meet new players.
Basically, cross-server dungeon finder tools are awesome for communities, because they let you meet players from other realms. Also, another good thing about a dungeon finder is that they take away the power of deciding who gets to be named “bad tank” or “great healer”. Simply put, the jerks that had a hold of a server witnessed how their powers were stripped away from them when people were allowed to group up with others from different realms.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with reminding them how important it is to ADD a proper DUNGEON FINDER. It was an awesome addition to quite a few other games, it will be a great addition to this game as well.
Why is this a sticky? I thought Anet hated the idea of people opening a window(web browser in this case) and finding a list of groups looking for more people because “it takes away the social side”…
I do hope they realize how important it is for a MMO game to actually have a dungeon finder. Not another “improved” LFG tool, but an actual dungeon finder: one that allows you to keep exploring instead of staying in one place spamming “lfm …”
The addition of an automatic dungeon finder was one of the best things for those games because it really helped people find others to play with .
And no, there was no “community ruined” because of it.
