Guild Wars 2

I might actually do it, just refilled my fridge with budweiser yesturday.

Lux.7169:

What do you bet they don’t even have the dragon rank emote ready. That would be the icing on the cake for this update.

kitten , this made me lol so hard.

Throughout my time playing thief in SPvP (Were not only our Zerker dmg is nerfed but also most of our skills) I’ve learned there is a very messed up thief learning curve. But thieves are still quite strong and I still think they are the strongest class when mastered.

Low skilled thief vs low skilled other class (Performance is Tied, anyone can win)

Medium skilled thief vs medium skilled other class (Thief is very likely to loose)

Mastered skilled thief vs Mastered skilled other class (Thief should RARELY loose)

Thieves defend themselves via use to broken mechanics, Stealth causes un-targeting which is very useful, great placements of blinds will allow you to take way less damage from an exchange than your opponent. Even though I’ve never seen a good evasion S/D thief in WvW, there is a very powerful evasion build in SPvP, but it requires knowledge of what to dodge for EVERY class/build to avoid getting 2 shotted, takes lots of game knowledge to master, but you are likely to win almost every duel.

Hannelore.8153:

All existing restrictions will likely remain unless otherwise noted.

There is not a restriction of wearing armor according to your order, just on buying it. Cultural armor is different because it has “Requires Race” and persists even after being transmuted onto another item and made account bound.

I’ll take your word for it, since that makes alot of sense.

Current Requirements
Rank 10 – 10500 RP
Rank 20 – 54000 RP
Rank 30 – 136500 RP
Rank 40 – 316500 RP
Rank 50 – 796500 RP
Rank 60 – 1621500 RP
Rank 70 – 3421500 RP
Rank 80 – 8221500 RP
Post-Patch (15th April) (Every rank above 38 is now 20k RP each)
Rank 10 – 10500 RP
Rank 20 – 54000 RP
Rank 30 – 136500 RP
Rank 40 – 291500 RP
Rank 50 – 491500 RP
Rank 60 – 691500 RP
Rank 70 – 891500 RP
Rank 80 – 1091500 RP (Equiv of Current R53 70k/75k)

You can see your total amount of rank points on the logging screen if you click the arrows left and right of your achievement board and drag your cursor on your PvP medal. Then you can compare it to these values. Hope this helps

With the new runes of balthazar, not only will engis have the highest HPM in this game, but if you’re too close when attacking him, you might get incinerated. Oh boi, the incoming pain!

I’d enjoy it if a dev would confirm this for us but I don’t think they’ll do, we’l have to figure out by ourselves.

Donari.5237:

Right now you can in PvE, by transmuting onto white items then onto the desired stat item on the new alt. The question is whether the skin will now auto-detect your Order and deny you the mix and match.

Since they are perfectly willing to reduce mix and match options, it seems, this is a valid fear.

Interesting, that would be a shame.

hannah mee.7925:

Um…yes?

Why exactly would you think you couldn’t wear Whisper’s and Vigil’s at the same time?

In PvE both skins cannot be attained at the same time on one character, but in PvP we can, and its been like this since launch. Now with gear unification both skins might not be used at the same time, and the thought of this is ruining my exitement over the patch.

Belzebu.3912:

All the rules about armors now will still apply later, weight restriction and cultural armors will still have the same restriction.

Could you please state the source? This is only privilege I’ve gotten used to for almost 2 years, I’d rather not have this taken away from me

7/10 personnal preference
9.5/10 creative originality
My human thief

As a PvPer I have a question about the new Wardrobe system that is going to be implemented, will I still be able to equip gear from different orders like I am doing now?

In the following image you can see my main character wearing the whisper’s coat and the vigil leggings.

bhagwad.4281:

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I would avoid trying to reason with Mr Static, he his a prime candidate of an individual that seals his mind in order to not have to understand your side of the story. He blinds himself so he can keep arguing, only to result in a negative influence to those who are negatively influenced by the changes stated in the OP.

His motives were not precisely described and he will target key words in your posts so he can keep the arguing going. He’s like the stain on your favorite shirt or the musquito in the night when your trying to sleep. Theres no reason to keep fueling such an excuse of individual with your keywords.

Static.9841:

Where did I show this unbound amount of hatred I’m supposed to have?

Assumption made from your lack of reason when you were brushing off those players who worked hard for the prestige endgame they were promised at launch for PvP and now wish to keep what they worked for. Its quite a solid assumption made from your comment.

Static.9841:

Do you think writing lots of whiney posts about “Oh we’re all going to quit because of this” as if you’re speaking for everyone is going to get anything other than dismissed when it has absolutely nothing constructive added with it? It’s a childish ultimatum stemmed from elitism in a game where there’s a larger playerbase outside of yourself.

Reading this, I feel like if you’re digging in my toilet for a piece of crap I kitten from a meal 2 months ago, and using it to JUDGE my DIET. Has it ever occur to you that English was not my native language or that I wasn’t always sober when browsing the forums?

Static.9841:

How are they treated badly exactly? Are they abused on a regular basis and not fed by Anet and forced to go to bed early? No they’re not getting some kind of reward that they feel they are entitled to and they have to deal with rank changes that will benefit more than them. Grow up, the game isn’t about the individual, if you don’t like it, find another game.

To explain this briefly they are being robbed of their hard-earned prestige, As I can see from reading this, rank points don’t matter to you, does that mean that it should’nt matter to anyone?

Heres a situation, these players were playing for a prestige via earning huge amounts of rank points by investing very high amounts of time. Now immagine you in such position (replace rank points by something you’d like, for example a 3 months resort vacation). Now immagine investing around 6000hours playing GW2 for that resort, but at the end, you instead get a 2week vacation along with everyone who only invested 1000hours.

Don’t brush the situation off by saying its not the same thing, some people see lots of value in prestige that you don’t, theres no reason to argue if you close your eyes to stop yourself from understanding anything thrown at you. I will no longer be sharing this childish arguing with you and I will no longer be replying to any of your posts.

Uhtameit.2413:

Perplexity runes would have made every single condi build unstoppable.

Agreed!

If they plan to do this to dhuumfire they should at LEAST buff the bleeding back to its original state. Why are they taking this away from necros? Necros are fine!

fishball.7204:

Thanks for doing the math.

Np man!

Thanks! I was wondering what the requirements were.

No problem, trying to help us little guys what rank to achieve for the new 80.

Static.9841:

Conversely, your post shows just how blinkered you are by your own sense of self-entitlement. Nice job.

What else other than envy causes an individual’s hatred towards the people who earned a superior amount of what the individual wants?

You quite frankly are aware how badly treated these players who’ve dedicated so much of their time to such a flawed game, but you simply brush it off without even giving such as a kitten about it. How childish can you be?

Last two posts shows the greed of this player-base

Bump up up for the players to see!

DanzelOPP.5068:

You don’t deserve a trophy for participation. I’m sorry the world has told you otherwise.

One’s trophy is only worth the effort put to obtain it, giving one to those who did nothing but brainlessly play while simply having a better team is no better than giving one to the guy who played the best they could while having an inferior team.

The world has never been fair, but that shouldn’t stop us from making it fair.

DanzelOPP.5068:

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You learn more from mistakes than success, no reason to not reward the losing team?

I believe that the rank point rewards should be 300 for winning and 250 for losing in hotjoin, because of how terrible it is for this game’s pvp. The low rank points per game played would encourage players to Queue up for Tpvp instead, which is the intended way to PvP in this game.

I am utterly disgusted that such a mess of a game mode is even rewarded to be honest, but 300 for winning and 250 for losing would at least minimize the team switching issue, while promoting Qeuing for increased rewards.

bhagwad.4281:

No one is forcing casuals to aim for titles. They can peacefully continue playing the game. There are some PvE players with 1000s of gold that can never be matched by casuals. Does anyone complain? No. There are players with 3-5 legendaries which will never be reached by casuals. Does anyone complain? No. There are PvE titles which 95% of people can never reach. Does anyone complain? No.

PvP is no different.

So you’re telling me :
Casuals = No grind
Hardcore = Grind

Dude you’re hilarious!

Haha yes, many QQ threads were made! XD

Pixels.6532:

Woot, someone else agrees w/ 8.2m being the amount of rank you need to reach 80… wiki and anet say 8.9m, but I can’t get that number to work unless getting dragon is different, and you need to fill your r80 bar before you unlock it.

Also, nice work on the maths.

It can’t be 8.9mil, if rank 78-79 would be 1’200 000 Instead of 450 000, or for 79-80 to be 1’500 000 instead of 750 000 then it would be 8.9mil. But that doesn’t make sense so Ill go with 8.2mill

Quite happy about the changes, now I just hope the epic rewards will come to the ladders, and no more mindless grinding.

Current Requirements
Rank 10 – 10500 RP
Rank 20 – 54000 RP
Rank 30 – 136500 RP
Rank 40 – 316500 RP
Rank 50 – 796500 RP
Rank 60 – 1621500 RP
Rank 70 – 3421500 RP
Rank 80 – 8221500 RP

Post-Patch (15th April) (Every rank above 38 is now 20k RP each)
Rank 10 – 10500 RP
Rank 20 – 54000 RP
Rank 30 – 136500 RP
Rank 40 – 291500 RP
Rank 50 – 491500 RP
Rank 60 – 691500 RP
Rank 70 – 891500 RP
Rank 80 – 1091500 RP (Equiv of Current R53 70k/75k)
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Edit: I would like to request from a forum moderator or an Arenanet employee to close this thread considering the embarrassement and lack of constructive critism that has been posted on it. For those who wish to preserve these values please copy it to a new thread or save it for yourself.

silvermember.8941:

Cry me a river.

Anet has been forcing all elementalist into mediocrity since BWE2.

Stealing a candy from someone, is worse than never giving them any to start with.

Basically removing a viable build, is worse than never giving a new viable build.

Decrypter.1785:

you sure ? i watched the ready up was no mention of it ?

Yes, Evan Lesh mentioned it, heres a link :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/April-15th-Effort-Require-to-Rank-up-in-PvP#post3828968

Chaith.8256:

DanyK.3842:

I’m still waiting on my Ransacker title… and my Marauder.

The titles are so de-synced with actual rank points – I have earned 3,820,000 rank points, but don’t even have the 2,973,500 Reaper Title. I should’ve gotten that a million rank points ago .. It’s bad.

Chaith, you know for yourself that the Devs stated that titles were getting fixed the 15th of april!

Titles are a cheap and easy to design which could keep players playing for a long time. Please exploit this system to satisfy everyone! : RP = Rank points

Gladiator – 10500RP (Unlocked when reaching Rank 10)
Mercenaries – 54000RP (Unlocked Rank 20)
Avenger – 136500RP (Unlocked Rank 30)
Ransacker – 291500RP (Unlocked Rank 40)
Marauder – 491500RP (Unlocked Rank 50)
Ravager – 691500RP (Unlocked Rank 60)
Reaper – 891500RP (Unlocked Rank 70)
Mistwalker – 1091500RP (Unlocked Rank 80)
Legendary Champion – 1591500RP (Unlocked Via RP requirement)
—-
Ascendant of the Mists – 2091500RP (Unlocked Via RP)
Ghost of the Mists – 2591500RP (Unlocked Via RP)
Reaper of the Mists – 3091500RP (Unlocked Via RP)
XNew title – 3591500RP (Unlocked Via RP)
XNew title 2 – 4091500RP (Unlocked Via RP)
XNew title 3 – 4591500RP (Unlocked Via RP)
XNew title 4 – 5091500RP (Unlocked Via RP)

Please show your support if you like this idea, and give your ideas if you don’t agree with this and want something else! I’m just throwing ideas!

Note: Evan Lesh has confirmed the fix of PvP titles in the april 15th feature pack, Here :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/April-15th-Effort-Require-to-Rank-up-in-PvP#post3828968

I don’t believe that any ‘’hardcore player’’ would prefer such a flawed and terrible rank system over actual (working) leaderboards, theres no reason to have a max rank so hard to achieve, it will only ward off new players.

Special finishers should be rewarded for ladderposition, when the functional pvp ladders release.

These changes might stop some people to actually judge ranks as a representation of skill! The fact that the maximum rank point requirements aren’t absolutelly insane as what they used to be will give new players a good moral.

I agree with this idea, I find it terrible to treat the high-ranked players like this. I don’t want to be screwed like that in the future of PvP, but you neverknow, the current pvp team is quite merciless.

Chase.8415:

Fine, let’s go ahead and remove retroactive rewards entirely.

Would you be happier then? Knowing that no one got rewards, seems only fair then right?

Relax buddy, I’m quite sure you can understand how badly high ranked players had to work to reach their high ranks!

He’s simply asking why players that go from rank 55->80 get more rewards than those that worked harder and go from 70->80. Its quite unreasonable.

hope this doesn’t fall burried like old posts

+1 I hope this doesn’t get burried like older posts

Dahkeus.8243:

The Lyssa nerf is fair. Personally, I’ll be glad to drop Lyssa for Traveler runes on my thief. As much as I liked the utility of Lyssa, it was imbalanced and I’m happy that there’s a good alternative to switch to.

I agree, I just wish another MM Nec or hambow counter would randomly pop up!

Leeto.1570:

Dont worry pistol whip is getting nerf too XD

Yeah, i’m quite happy about that, it took too long. But I don’t think the nerf is enough to kick that terrible build out the meta.

Paragon.5479:

u can go pistol whip all day long i can easily decap u with my decap engi and also not only that i am gonna spam retalation until u run away

RaZaC.1963:

Its one of the best upcoming changes. But I understand from your perspective as s/d thief you do not have enough survivability with out it……. oh wait…..

You’re quite a funny guy. Trying the build out before kittening all over it would do you good, here’s a link : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAV8YlYmaPncS4E/5Ex2jdKUeqVgmdP4q8rKA-ToAg0EFpKyVkpIZR2iGWssYXA

Paragon.5479:

fantastic change,they are finally moving to the right direction,lyssa runes are now balanced.now thiefs will need to adapt and try new things they will still be in top tier

I could join the cheese and play a pistol-whip thief, would you prefer me playing those?

ArcTheFallen.7682:

That’s not a bad nerf. It’s probably the least they could do to balance the OP rune. Also it’s conditions to boons lol, boons to conditions would be a huge O_O.

^ Yes you’re right, its not that bad, but now fighting warriors are going to require like a freaking D/P or one of those disgusting Pistolwhip builds and these builds feels so static its painful! Unless I absolutely outplay them.

After watching ready up episode 9 on the official gw2 twitch channel, and I noticed around 53mins in, when they were comparing runes, the lyssa rune’s effect was greatly nerfed from loosing all conditions and gaining all boons for 5seconds, to ‘’convert up to five boons into conditions’’.

This is quite bad for me, as a S/D thief I don’t have access to the blind field, thus the stability and the protection of the runes helped me cause serious damage to hammer warriors. It also helped me actually survive signet of spite. Now the S/D build might loose whatever viability it had left.

Note: this is an internal version of the feature pack, so this is surely to happen in the public version

This is quite bad, since I’m playing S/D I don’t have access to the blind field, so the stability and the protection would help me cause serious damage to hammer warriors, and was a great way to ’’survive’’ signet of spite from the necromancer. Now… The build will be incredibly unforgiving, no room for any mistakes.

After watching ready up episode 9 on the official gw2 twitch channel, and I noticed around 53mins in, when they were comparing runes, the lyssa rune’s effect was greatly nerfed from loosing all conditions and gaining all boons for 5seconds, to ‘’convert up to five boons into conditions’’.

Note: this is an internal version of the feature pack, so this is surely to happen in the public version

It would indeed be awesome!

draven.4796:

This and a lot of posts are just different angles to attack the injustice of autoleveling r55+ to r80.

I have empathy with the outrage and simply put as you get a small rank increase for losing every match you play, an unemployed monkey trained to join up a character will eventually reach r80.

Hard Fact : rank = time. Bad players more time and good players less time. Therefore if you have more time, say you dont earn a living or at school you will have a higher rank than the best pvper who can only play 1 hour a week.

So by all means get upset at the amount of time those players have:

Pessimistic view : Given away to their competitors
Optimistic View : Gifted to their fellow players.

Its depressing I know but it really is a measure of how much time you can play in the current system. I would let it go and save yourself some high blood pressure.

EDIT: reading around the initial point of would you take a r70 over an r40 is the pvp equivalent of the pve filter of 5K AP only groups. Its gambling but limited your losses. In my experience the people who advertise such groups/restrictions are poor players that need better players to help them through.

Yes, great point of view!

I think past the rank 55, it becomes practically impossible to keep getting better from repeating the SAME THING over and over again.

Yeah, if the water could be removed, the map would be great!
I really liked how the map looked, even tho I hated the water combat It was one of the best looking maps out there.

Alugjen Darlas.5329:

No the r50+ = skyhammer farmer (Not all to be clear).Rank don’t mean anything nowdays if u wanted to achiev r 50+ now is to late .The only thing i can think as an achiev for the ppl who have 60+ is that Anet has also reworked the titole such as ‘’Marrauder etc’’^^.

No need to be selfish buddy, I’m sure you could understand how ripped off these players must be feel after putting so much effort, and being robbed of all their hard work, besides skyhammer farmers count only a TINY part of the population, i’m sure below 0.1%.

bhagwad.4281:

Phantom Master.9582:

I’m very happy ranks are losing these values.

You’re happy that people are being robbed of stuff they worked for. Good for you. You can feel happy about it, but some of us don’t like injustice and fight against it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Consider-compensation-for-the-dedicated/first#post3831102