Guild Wars 2

Rinzler.8072:

Vigrith.8136:

Rinzler.8072:

…Let me guess…

Stop it, you are terrible at the guessing game. Plok is neither pure bunker or pure healing, seems like you would know that since we routinely roll you and your guild over and over and over with Plok leading the charge. You and your guild should also have noticed by now that we almost always run with only our own guild and our groups rarely exceed 25 members.
BTW I am a ranger got anything snarky for that? Maybe our OP spirits and shouts?

Ive never been rolled by GOAT. I have fought you alot, you have some good players and you have put up some good fights. But most the time it ends up with GOAT corpses laying around me.

Anyways, start takign screen shots of when you rolled me, and ill do the same. Talk is cheap :-)

edit: Noone is dumb enought o do full healing, since they nerfed healing power. Ide guess a crit build (like me) with altruistic healing.

The largest GOAT group roaming around this week at all was 7, so yea. I don’t give a flying kitten about your guild, nor do i notice them when i am plowing over things. Please kitten already.

jkctmc.8754:

@Vigrith

Goat members can actually kill anything but alts? <laughs>

Screenshot, or it didn’t happen, and when you kill a solid guild, look for those little green arrows that shows you if they’re 80 or not. We roll over GOAT quite often when on our 80s.

Now you are just dreaming.

jkctmc.8754:

Plok.6145:

Rinzler.8072:

Plok.6145:

Rashagal.5867:

@Plok

I’m not sure why you think playing a thief makes you any less vital to the team. Sure if all you ever do is roam around and kill you’re not being very helpful, but that’s true for any class. I play thief. I get lots of badges. But I also use all those extra badges i earn from kills to buy and place siege, use my mobility to do super fast supply runs, use my stealth to revive allies and/or get stomps on key targets that can turn battles, scorpion wire that kitteny ranger or ele spamming from the walls down for my comrades to kill while I AOE the seige on the enemy battlements, and use my speed to scout ahead of zergs to call out locations of enemies and report enemy army sizes to coordinate flanking maneuvers and call in people to defend positions that haven’t even been attacked yet. This is all not to mention that the thief has arguably the best damaging AOE spell with explosive shot and a 3 bounce auto shot that hits for 1.5k regularly and anti-enemy revival AOE with choking gas.

Explain again how I’m not helping my team and am causing AR to lose through these obvious examples of unskilled and selfish behavior…

Oh yeah… and be real: If %50 of our server ran thief, you wouldn’t ever see us coming, especially with the culling issues. %15 run thief at most. Yes, that number is an estimate, but 2 things: I let you know when I’m bullkitten you and I’d wager my badges of honor that my guess is a lot closer than yours.

Well, last night my small group ran around for a couple of hours. I would say AT LEAST half our overall kills were thieves. Can’t say positively they were all AR but tons were. Even found a group of four ezmoders on middle island that exploded from AE. You can throw a million pieces of siege, running around solo, generally does kitten for the realm as a whole. Hey I run around solo on occasion but I know all i am doing is looking for fights, nothing generally for the realm. Oh, and I do love when a thief attacks me with his shing shing and they see very little health come off and then run away, it amuses me.

FOTM: Thief, cause some need that base advantage.

ITT noone cares. lol

Sorry SoS has been a non entity and rendered moot this week. Oh maybe I should make some troll posts instead of commenting truthfully on the happenings in the wvw.

let me guess, thief right?

You lost several fortified towers to 9 of us, and almost lost two keeps to 9 of us when we would knock down a wall, or gate, and send in a Mesmer so we could come back later.

I’m sorry it is December, and us adults have more pressing matters, and the entire guild can’t get on, like your guilds full of children, who’re on winter vacation, and can play all hours, day/night while thier parents work.

The funny thing was, out of the nine, 7 were alts, 3 being under level 20.

<laughs>

/golfclap seriously? I love your generalizations. Most of your posts are pathetic and this continues the trend.
I took SM solo kitten, you are teh weak.

Rashagal.5867:

Plok.6145:

Well, last night my small group ran around for a couple of hours. I would say AT LEAST half our overall kills were thieves. Can’t say positively they were all AR but tons were. Even found a group of four ezmoders on middle island that exploded from AE. You can throw a million pieces of siege, running around solo, generally does kitten for the realm as a whole. Hey I run around solo on occasion but I know all i am doing is looking for fights, nothing generally for the realm. Oh, and I do love when a thief attacks me with his shing shing and they see very little health come off and then run away, it amuses me.

FOTM: Thief, cause some need that base advantage.

…

let me guess, thief right?

Because bunker is such a pro build right? Signet buffs, auto atk heals, and bubble res’ing people to fight your battles for you must take a lot of skill.

let me guess, guardian right?

See what I did there? Every class has its own advantages and disadvantages. Legitimate balancing issues aside like culling (which isn’t even a balancing issue as it is exploited by everyone because its a computer rendering issue. Thieves and mesmers simply gain more from it since they render and derender more frequently because of their stealth. But i’ll admit that its an issue that DOES need to be addressed.) there isn’t much to complain about thieves for anymore. Perma stealth got cap’ed at 25 sec unless you mean the permastealth gained from the cap stall build, but that one is obsolete now. Dancing Dagger dmg got gutted as a viable anti res spell. C&D got cut my 1/3. They can no longer stall caps on points. And the FOTM build you’re talking about has no stun break except for the steal they used to initiate the fight, and the worst hp/toughness in the game and can literally be taken down in less than 2 secs by anyone with power gear and CC or a good understanding of where the thief will be headed when they stealth. Thieves run away because they can’t win unless they get the drop on you and a bunker is a hard counter. Besides, the profession is called thief, not warrior. Expecting him to go toe to toe and trade blows with you is pretty ignorant of the archetypes they are basing the game off of.

Most of the classes are pretty balanced right now. I’m not saying there isn’t more work for them to do, but complaining about class comp is a weak argument as, like you said, running solo doesn’t do much for your team, and believe it or not: most thieves don’t run solo. Scout ahead maybe, but in general they are like any other class, and understand that there is safety in numbers.

I am indeed a guardian, but never have I played a bunker build. I am complete hybrid. I’m not using the advantage of not being seen to win. Yes, if you are playing a thief you are playing with an advanatage above all, sorry you don’t like that FACT.

Warlord Lu Bu.7905:

So I just witnessed a low level mesmer at Anvil Rock’s spawn in Eternal Battleground flying through the air over and into the Anvil Rock Overlook Keep.

I partied a few Anvil Rock players to try and find out the identity. Emusa.4069 was not willing to help and likely told this hacker to leave the map. By the time I ran into some Anvil Rock players that were willing to help give a name, the hacker had left.

Now I understand all about the mesmer and I know you can teleport around a bit, but nonstop teleporting everytime you try any attack, and then flying through the air is utter trash.

I’m hoping most of Anvil Rock would agree with me that players like that mesmer don’t belong and should be banned. I also say that if anyone sees someone from BP doing the same, I will gladly help give a name. We need to call these cheaters out and I ask anyone with a shred of dignity to take part and help when you see stuff like that.

Seconded, this is trash play and anyone approving such play should go back to Hello Kitty online.

Rinzler.8072:

Plok.6145:

Rashagal.5867:

@Plok

I’m not sure why you think playing a thief makes you any less vital to the team. Sure if all you ever do is roam around and kill you’re not being very helpful, but that’s true for any class. I play thief. I get lots of badges. But I also use all those extra badges i earn from kills to buy and place siege, use my mobility to do super fast supply runs, use my stealth to revive allies and/or get stomps on key targets that can turn battles, scorpion wire that kitteny ranger or ele spamming from the walls down for my comrades to kill while I AOE the seige on the enemy battlements, and use my speed to scout ahead of zergs to call out locations of enemies and report enemy army sizes to coordinate flanking maneuvers and call in people to defend positions that haven’t even been attacked yet. This is all not to mention that the thief has arguably the best damaging AOE spell with explosive shot and a 3 bounce auto shot that hits for 1.5k regularly and anti-enemy revival AOE with choking gas.

Explain again how I’m not helping my team and am causing AR to lose through these obvious examples of unskilled and selfish behavior…

Oh yeah… and be real: If %50 of our server ran thief, you wouldn’t ever see us coming, especially with the culling issues. %15 run thief at most. Yes, that number is an estimate, but 2 things: I let you know when I’m bullkitten you and I’d wager my badges of honor that my guess is a lot closer than yours.

Well, last night my small group ran around for a couple of hours. I would say AT LEAST half our overall kills were thieves. Can’t say positively they were all AR but tons were. Even found a group of four ezmoders on middle island that exploded from AE. You can throw a million pieces of siege, running around solo, generally does kitten for the realm as a whole. Hey I run around solo on occasion but I know all i am doing is looking for fights, nothing generally for the realm. Oh, and I do love when a thief attacks me with his shing shing and they see very little health come off and then run away, it amuses me.

FOTM: Thief, cause some need that base advantage.

ITT noone cares. lol

Sorry SoS has been a non entity and rendered moot this week. Oh maybe I should make some troll posts instead of commenting truthfully on the happenings in the wvw.

let me guess, thief right?

Rashagal.5867:

@Plok

I’m not sure why you think playing a thief makes you any less vital to the team. Sure if all you ever do is roam around and kill you’re not being very helpful, but that’s true for any class. I play thief. I get lots of badges. But I also use all those extra badges i earn from kills to buy and place siege, use my mobility to do super fast supply runs, use my stealth to revive allies and/or get stomps on key targets that can turn battles, scorpion wire that kitteny ranger or ele spamming from the walls down for my comrades to kill while I AOE the seige on the enemy battlements, and use my speed to scout ahead of zergs to call out locations of enemies and report enemy army sizes to coordinate flanking maneuvers and call in people to defend positions that haven’t even been attacked yet. This is all not to mention that the thief has arguably the best damaging AOE spell with explosive shot and a 3 bounce auto shot that hits for 1.5k regularly and anti-enemy revival AOE with choking gas.

Explain again how I’m not helping my team and am causing AR to lose through these obvious examples of unskilled and selfish behavior…

Oh yeah… and be real: If %50 of our server ran thief, you wouldn’t ever see us coming, especially with the culling issues. %15 run thief at most. Yes, that number is an estimate, but 2 things: I let you know when I’m bullkitten you and I’d wager my badges of honor that my guess is a lot closer than yours.

Well, last night my small group ran around for a couple of hours. I would say AT LEAST half our overall kills were thieves. Can’t say positively they were all AR but tons were. Even found a group of four ezmoders on middle island that exploded from AE. You can throw a million pieces of siege, running around solo, generally does kitten for the realm as a whole. Hey I run around solo on occasion but I know all i am doing is looking for fights, nothing generally for the realm. Oh, and I do love when a thief attacks me with his shing shing and they see very little health come off and then run away, it amuses me.

FOTM: Thief, cause some need that base advantage.

Nuzt.7894:

Indeed, this thread has gotten out of hand. BP has alot more ppl its a fact whether its transfer, better community, more ppl that enjoy WvW whatever it doesn’t matter. I’m not going to say “hahaha you all suck” because its not true but your lying to yourselves if your going to insist that your population has zero to do with it.

As for the players being treated good or bad, I’ve personally never seen anyone just start throwing out insults to new PvP players. I’m sure it has happened but not that I have witnessed, I wish we could get people out of PvE and into WvW but for whatever reason it doesn’t happen on AR.

Either way its been fun, I give props to BP because as I said before even if populations were equal it would have been great battles that could go either way. Numbers help and roles reversed SF or AR would probably be in the lead not because anyone of our servers are baddies but lets face it, in WvW numbers win wars.

Now I’m sure someone will be mad and try and twist my post into “you said we wouldn’t win without numbers” but that is not the case. I just think its sad this thread has turned into a flame war on all sides. I’m sure BP will keep trucking up in the tiers and kudo’s to them. I just hope we AR can get some more ppl into WvW so we can meet you guys in another tier.

Well said. To be perfectly honest, you kids should prolly get off the interwebz, it’s gone to your heads. It’s a kittening game, chill the kitten out. The “You all suck” stuff is just very childish.

I am wondering, can anyone from AR or SF tell me what the Borlis Pact start strategy was against you this week? Hint, same one employed the week before. Some additional numbers help, but the idea is to demoralize so people leave the battlefield, seems to have worked well. That and there seems to be a serious lack of night presence, something BP dealt with for a long time. Some people joined BP, evident. TO be perfectly honest, with the exception of WAR, they could all go right back to their old servers. Most are combative and are frankly unhelpful to the server cause. (Probably the same reason the left their old server).

Now, I was out tonight with a guild group of six people, and was rolled over by 30+ in AR BL several times. Stop with the stupid comments about the zerg, you all do it, so just stifle yourselves and play the game.

One last quick thing, Anvil, consider that some of the problem is half your population is soloing on thievs, instead of working for the server. Ganks earn you nothing, except kitten flexing on a /faceroll toon.

Kardiamond.6952:

Come on, no need for this.

Keep in private chat.

Hmm some good things to know I shall pass along

Anonymity, best part about this game. Nuff said.

amiable.4823:

DKz Lux.4125:

Awesome, thank you. I will do something rarely done on the Internets and say that I was wrong to accuse BP of spying/collusion. It’s impossible to know the motivation of the idiots building siege in the middle of nowhere, so mea culpa. And I will add thank you for being a good sport and a stand up player about the siege issue.

Finding siege in absurd numbers and in seriously useless places is something that happens to all servers. kitteny yes. But in every game you seemingly have people who want to use any style of play they can, no matter how classless.

General.7803:

I am WM-GW2 lead officer, “Jang Gun”.

It appears that ANet seem to not realize the seriousness of the situcation. When the game first came out, GW2 has surprised us with the great quality it had. But that was it. GW2 now has become a game that people find boring after a 2 month play time. Also a PvE centric game.

The problem is much larger in the WvW area (not even going to talk about sPvP since it is frustrating). A WvW game that gives no motivation to the players will not give any fun to them. However, the most recent patch was more towards the PvE contents. We see this as a big problem. As an example, War Machine had about 1,000 players in GW2 when we first joined the game, but with the boring repetitive non-rewarding WvW, we are now down to 50 players. I can assure everyone that with no changes to the WvW area, the remaining WvW players will mostly abandon the game within this year. I, also, feel that “Why should I do this boring thing?”.

I have no idea what ANet’s WvW director has in mind. Is he/she thinking that we are some mindless herds of sheep that plays the same thing on the same map every single day? I should’ve noticed it when there were 3 maps that were identical to one another… My loyalty to ANet is hitting the floor these days.

As we are waiting for months for some patches that can be done in a few days, I will be suggesting some ideas here.
1. A unique reward only for WvW (seems like PvE and sPvP has some, but why not WvW)?
2. Raid UI (the most basic thing that was supposed to be implemented, this is nonsense)
3. Motivaction to WvW (something like a buff to all server members – increase drop rate in dungeons?)
4. Guild cape system (the current GUILD system is total crap, I feel sympathy for it)
5. Implement a temple type mechanism on the center island of each borderlands (simliar to orbs but can be fought over constantly)
6. New MAP (How do we even have 3 out of 4 maps to be exactly the same)
7. 20v20 structured PvP (2 towers, 2 supplies, and a center flag)
8. Give points based on player kills (not just capping objectives)
9. Rankings of players and/or guilds for WvW

Currently in WvW, the most important factor in playing is “Why do I have to WvW?”. This is very important.

When you think about it, there are simple ideas to give motivation and fun and ANet can give fast updates in new contents. But is the reason that they are not providing such is because they lack the skills or they don’t try hard enough or they aren’t motivated themselves? Rather wait for a PC game expansion.
I never seen WvW update that new idea or new version during many big PvE update.

last, i will believe ArenaNet.

##. don’t delete this writing.

I fight for the love of the fight, if you need trinkets or rewards to do wvw, go play WoW.

It has no need to be changed, its one of the best new dynamics added to combat I have seen in the many games i have played. Don’t let the door hit you in the kitten

Lokreas.8421:

A picture is worth a thousand words; or in this case just six.

Thats awesome.

I will now be paying particularly close attention to the points now in this matchup. We are being flamed unmercifully by AR on their thread it is seriously pathetic QQ. I am asking our large alliance to back off on completely swamping the map in so that we DO INDEED face AR in the coming week.

Nuzt.7894:

its been about 3 weeks including this one, GoM was going strong but a lot of ppl leaving for whatrever server really hurt it seems. Its a shame because BP was just pitiful, they seemed to be really unorganized and only managed to pull ahead because of number where as GoM seemed to have some pretty competent players that had no issues wiping larger numbers. Unfortunately those guilds can’t be on 24/7.

Are you drunk? Even the weeks we lost in the AR GOM BP matchups we took the lead from the start due to strategy and plans. Until being overrun by numbers. That’s a fact you can’t deny. The guilds that started building us up are the same ones out there now. A few have added to the ranks, none of them being large guilds. I know you miss us due to the simple fact of how many times we were brought up in your new thread. If we by some miracle we do not advance another tier, I look forward to fighting you again. In fact, I am trying to convince the alliance to stop pushing so we do fight you again. So much kittening QQ from some of you it’s really sad.

wads.5730:

Ballads.2509:

Ok so they have explained wvw rankings. So how do you get those scores? We all understand PPT and we also all know there a lot more points to get/lose besides the ones listed. Ive heard some guilds have figured it out but are not telling.
What is the exact formula?
player kills 1?
flags 1?
Yak escort 3?
yak murder 1?
Champions killed 5? (guild claimers or events)
Vet events killed 1?
Anything else? My values are of course pure speculation. Some say all can scale, as in it would be 1point per 2 people escorting yaks up to 3 max for example. I’m just tired of the mystery. Tell me please.

none of those things contribute to score. your score is completely determined by potential points, which are tallied after every interval. these are holding camps, towers, keeps, and stonemist.

It’s a good thing people don’t understand how this works.

GreenSage.3256:

BP is awesome because we have awesome commanders.

Daiosho is among the best, as is my illustrious guild leader Varlen

Thx to all BP cmders for leading us to victory!

We ain’t won yet.

Zerraph.6749:

It amazes me how many people do nothing but attempt to make excuses when BP beats them up. The fact is that BP literally sucked a few weeks ago. We didn’t have enough players. The players we had didn’t know how to play. And commanders were an endangered species.

Then guilds began focusing on WvW. Guilds recruited in PvE zones. Then coerced the new members to join them in WvW. Now numbers are strong for BP. The players are much more experienced. And commanders are no longer as rare.

So no more excuses Anvil Rock. You tried to beat us. You failed.

To be fair we have been working on this for more than a few weeks

testpig.5018:

Eternal Battlegrounds: 7pm eastern – 11:30pm eastern
At server reset, the fight was strong in BPs favor, taking a big foothold on the zone, 2 commanders were present, Sliva, and Dinas(representing Ascension [WAR]) Sliva took his troops to SM, and were able to battle it out for control against SF, and possibly like 2 HoD players lol. Then Sliva began to press into SF, flipping control over the lowlands many times.

Dinas took his guild command of 15 to the northern parts of the map, to lockdown HoD enough so that they leave the zone for a bit, so we could press it to SF (as they appeared to be the dominate server for the prev weeks). Lots of great fights, Felt a little bad for HoD so we let them push out here and there, just to crush them afterwards. They pulled out some large numbers, but would not keep them together during transport, which allowed our 15 man command, to roll in, and cut them down.

By the end of the night, HoD had a huge force out, and stonemist was looking shaky, it was just a hairline away from instant upgrade that would have repaired it all. We saw things were looking poorly, and decided to push against SF more then HoD in the 11pm SM fight. Seeing that HoD might have a much harder time holding it. Rather give it to them then SF =)

Good fun tonight.

And then all of our commanders gave up when the other servers began fighting back? WTH happened?

Aratoa.7398:

HoD still has a great group of WvW fighters, we’re just lacking the troops to keep fighting around the clock. Great fights out there tonight guys.

I dunno somehow you have a monster zerg hitting Hills with golems AND a group of 20 hitting bay at the same time same map with lots of stragglers.

For a dead server they sure do have a kitten load of people on every map all of a sudden.

I know, Anvil Rock transferred there lol.

Shrack.8013:

Me? I play a Guardian. Not sure what that has to do with anything. I did not post another /faceroll /abuse rendering video.

Don’t get me wrong, I have been in fights with you guys and I am not taking anything away from you.

Culling issues vs a 5 man? If anyone has to deal with a culling problem in a 5 vs 30 it is us, not the 30 people who already have 30 people loaded. You’re telling me those 30 players running into a camp don’t see us until its just too late? Come on man.

ANY and ALL stealth causes rendering issues. 1 person or 100, what made thieves able to just keep running around a supply camp, if they cant see you makes it harder to hit you. Don’t feign naivety.

Astyages.7863:

Whenever I enter the WvWvW is the same. I play in some low population server and for that we are always losing. And why to get in WvWvW just to get killed and pay a lot of silver after you get ganked?
Seriously… PvP should never damage your gear.

Getting tired of the QQ on this forum about every possible subject imaginable.

Heisenberg.1290:

Venjin.3520:

cry baby

Oh the irony.

Venjin.3520:

This is becoming a huge problem in WvW.

Get a grip. It’s not that big a deal.

Spoken like an abuser.

Waking.6052:

Can the game be changed in some way that I get badges without having to search for them on a battle field?

I understand there is an element of realism to having to look for treasure after a fight, but I don’t feel like we’re looking for treasure. Badges symbolize WvW kills.

The problem as I see it is that the treasure dropping mechanic is designed for PvE, in which you’re not really in a hurry and so you can take a small time out after a fight. In WvW, you are just wasting time because you’re racing against the clock and other players.

I would like to build a consensus that this should basically be easier to get the things you earned for killing a player. Otherwise, I feel like I’m being encouraged to be selfish in a group wide conflict which is something Anet seems to dislike (no competing for material nodes, no competing for loot bags etc).

Hell no! Cause part of getting your loot bags is surviving the fight.

No Anet, don’t touch this. if you cant go back for your loot or survive to get it you don’t earn it. You lose loot, oh well.

Shrack.8013:

Nothing is technically hard to do in this game. If I were to completely swap to a condition spec bunker build then I could make mistakes all day and not have a remote chance at dying. I can’t think of a build or class that is really that difficult to play. The difficult thing is getting enough competent people together who play as a team, which I haven’t seen many people actually do well in this game yet. I can literally count the decent small groups we’ve ran into over the past 3+ months on one hand.

And let’s be honest here: I mainly just spam cluster bomb in the video and yet I still rarely ever see thieves even using cluster bomb. It is literally one of the best skills available for the class. 5 target aoe, blast finisher, bleed, 1200 range, no minimum range, gtaoe, only 3 initiative. Yes please

What class do you even play Plok?

Me? I play a Guardian. Not sure what that has to do with anything. I did not post another /faceroll /abuse rendering video.

Don’t get me wrong, I have been in fights with you guys and I am not taking anything away from you.

Shrack.8013:

You learned that cluster bomb is the most overpowered skill Thieves have? :P

Honestly I could roll a few classes and still do crazy AoE damage. People just don’t know how to spec or play properly. Most people don’t even play or spec into the role that makes their class extremely viable. And all 8 classes have at least one.

Not hard to focus power precision crit on a toon.

Shrack.8013:

Here is a new NEWL video of various fights from the last few weeks from my perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PgL1Gwgc_8

It’s a pretty long video (30 minutes), but feel free to skim through for larger fights. Group sizes in the video range from 3 to 7 players. The fights are probably about 60% Anvil Rock and 40% BP. with a couple of three way fights.

I learbed one thing. Thieves need an even bigger nerf than I ever thought.

Godfather.8217:

Plok.6145:

Godfather.8217:

Hadan.2841:

Leave it for SOS to troll this thread, how can any1 like you guys on that server….

@Hadan

No body is trolling here but you. I’m just stating the facts. Rendering issues is a problem, and borlis players certainly made good use of it that day. Your idiotic remarks are what I call “trolling”.

@Daisho

Please stop just sucking period. BP’s ego is way to inflated already.

SoS has alot of nerve talking to anyone about sucking.

@plok

What are you talking about man, I LOVE U GUYS! you bring out your best and brightest to fight us, I still laughed at that pic you all posted about how “oh AR owns the keep, it will be easy to retake” 8 hours later as your all still bashing your numbers at the gates trying to retake your keep being held by SoS. lol, c’mon man we can’t get any action like that anywhere else. We absolutly love playing against 3 big guilds, Krew, Goat, and Dk over your turf.

We get high on the challenge, and we appreciate your outstanding attention.

If I was there, I assure you there would be no banging heads on anything. I get mad at commanders who do stupid kitten like that.

Dovgan.8605:

OK, enough with the negativity. People are going to do what they are going to do, can’t expect to stop them.

That being said, the most fun thing I did this round was a 3 man cap of Bay in AR BL yesterday afternoon. Props to the Warrior and Guardian that share the same “let’s try it” attitude.

Not totally true. Do what I did in the last game I was playing. IF YOU SEE IT CALL IT OUT! Post on the forum the names of the people, take screens of them doing it, call them out in chats. Make them for the idiot cheaters they are.

melodyca.8921:

mazrim.4681:

supreme numbers do win, but stupid gameplay loses. I don’t mean to be harsh..i transferred at the beginning of the week TO GoM. Some of the things I see boggle my mind.

Today they lost garrison, there was a mesmer that hid and was pleading to port people in to take it back. The commander ignored the guy 5 different times, ordered trebs built to knock down the wall. Even after having a few people on /m or /t tell him to take the easy way. Of course the trebs sort of gave away their intentions long before the walls came down..

Another thing is, as a lot of you know there are certain towers/keeps that should have certain siege in it at select points every time you own it. You know, to treb other towers or keeps or whatever, everytime you own one, it should be ready to treb the other etc..
They never, ever do.

Somehow beyond logic, GoM can own a tower for 3 hours, not have a single upgrade or piece of siege in it, but still have no supply.

I wanted to go to a low tier server and fight the good fight, so I expected a lot of this, just pointing out a couple of examples on why it isn’t just numbers. GoM is pretty terrible at tactics.
Their only one that seems to work sometimes is the one commander who just screams ‘Brute Force’, has the little zerg, and the other 2 servers happen to be engaged with each other so we can take a few things.

I agree. I get sick and tired of telling people to freaking upgrade once they cap. And I get tired of using my badges to do it myself only to see it lost in a couple of hours.

People either don’t want to upgrade/defend or they are too LAZY to do it. All I hear is when I log on to GOM are people blathering….“Lets take this or Lets take that”

Its EQUALLY IMPORTANT to hold and defend the stuff we have.

Much of this is direct result of pve zerg mentality. We were upgrading our homeworld one day, another guy said why upgrade it, then we cant take it back again later. This is not ring around the rosie, this is battle and holding what you take outweighs taking it back later.

Hymnosi.5928:

There is 1 person on our server that I’d congratulate for being responsible for about 40% of our current score. He diligently calls out to players grinding PvE to WvW in time of need, so often that we have a word for it now. Not a day goes by when I don’t get ’daiosho’d’ mid dungeon.

Seriously dude, you’ve no idea how much you’re effecting the server, congrats.

He knows and so do we appreciate what he does for the server

melodyca.8921:

And it doesn’t help that one of our former Commanders joined Borlis and probably spilled how we play.
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DUDE! Take him back! I would not let that guy command my boats in the bath tub!

Could not figure out to just take a force underneath the trebs and kill them, was like the blind leading the blind, I think you have one less problem with this guy gone GoM.

Derako.3856:

Not a half hour in and this happens.

And? About 30 guys taking a keep? Whats the point, if it is even 30.

jkctmc.8754:

@Plok

http://www.coffmandesigns.com/gw005.jpg

That’s me inside your keep, by myself, without taking any wall, or gate down. I sent the screenshots of Borlis Pass doing this, and the screenshots had at least one member from every Borlis Pass major guild in it.

I hope they do a temporary ban of every guild member, until they find out who was inside using that exploit.

So in other words you are admitting to exploiting?

jkctmc.8754:

@Plok

You’re denying that Hills was taken without an exploit? Everyone who has been around pre-rlease knows about the old way, and we had no idea there was still a way up, and around, until you guys exploited it.

No idea was not on. SO YES I DENY IT, BUNCHA HOOEY.

Im getting popcorn.

The QQ, lies and accusations on this forum are comedy gold.

It is really unfair to start throwing things out there you hope to be true. Sorry, a blockade for strategic reasons IS NOT SPAWN CAMPING! Get over it. There are three exits to every spawn. Learn them. The only “Numbers” we have noticed added to the roster of BP is [WAR] and they just do their own thing anyway, have no engagement in the server plans for the week. This is the same guilds week to week, working out a plan, executing a plan. GOAT SBZY KREW CORE SOUL BURN BP DKZ and Others. Stop the pipe dreams, in every single match up, we have started with a significant lead due to what we planned to do, holding it has been a week to week issue.

LOL Thats the biggest zerg ever! LOL Oh wait AR doesnt zerg! LOL

WTF LETS GO WITH THE RESET ALREADY!

daneo.9732:

I don’t post here much but from the weeks we have played AR and BP, the only consistent is that AR or a few guilds from AR QQ about zerging from the other servers.

So I have an idea BP and GoM should focus all there attention to holding all of AR and AR’s towers/keeps in EB. I am not telling BP to not attack us or our server to not attack BP but to make sure AR holds the new record for lowest score total in a week. that way AR can move down a level and be the top dog in the lower level were they will be the zerg.

makes them happy and brings new blood into our match up.

I approve this message.

Godfather.8217:

@plok

putz? your the one who just posted, denying your guild doesn’t do it, do you even read what you post? and what tears are you talking about.., not once have i called anyone names here, but yet your already insulting me with “putz”. lol

sounds like your the one crying here, look man, just do what you do, lead that massive force around, i don’t mind if it takes you 50, 60, hell make it 100 players vs 20 of mine. We will fight you.

And you will lose, as usual.

Godfather.8217:

@kuthos

It sure happens bud, and you seem to have a grasp of it, but tell that to these guys that keep denying they do it, i mean look at plok who thinks his guild doesn’t zerg lol.

@bradderzh

you are absolutely right, some of us are just tired.

@plok

does it matter? Goat, GOAT, Goofs, Get a Life, does it really matter what your tag is, the point is your server zergs, and you rely on it.

have fun and good luck this week

EVERY SERVER ZERGS putz

Rely on in? My guild prefers to do their own thing but sometimes a map needs a commander, your tears are really bugging me now.

Godfather.8217:

Plok.6145:

Kardiamond.6952:

Since BP seems to be angry at us, I don’t know why, I think next week I’m gonna focus entirely on BP.

I’m getting tired of those GOAT guild that just can’t fight without a Big ball of Zerg.

Will make sure I cut out your reinforcement from behind

You are calling out the wrong guild for zerging.

that’s funny you say this, because last night, while sos was making it’s rounds karma/xp running in your area. I swear I saw a sea of red players from borlis pass running around retaking the camps, and it had several tags with “Goat”.

Funny, my tag is GOAT not Goat. And most of my guild was in a guild farming event most of yesterday. OOPS!

Kardiamond.6952:

Since BP seems to be angry at us, I don’t know why, I think next week I’m gonna focus entirely on BP.

I’m getting tired of those GOAT guild that just can’t fight without a Big ball of Zerg.

Will make sure I cut out your reinforcement from behind

You are calling out the wrong guild for zerging.

Godfather.8217:

Plok.6145:

Godfather.8217:

Metryn.8476:

Rashagal.5867:

BP camping puzzles, yet only attacking AR. Every GOM I saw was let through, and every AR I saw was killed.

Good to see you stayed classy since the server transfers flooded your server. /Sarcasm.

Guild tags were ORL and Oath.

Why stay classy with AR anymore? It’s always about how much better AR is than us. AR is just another step to climb anymore.

It’s my personal goal to take as many pugs after AR as I can, when the guild isn’t doing major objectives.

Should’ve kept your mouths shut instead of pissing off most of the BP WvW’ers, eh?

Good job buddy, you are now the reason why my guild SoS will be focusing every operation at Borlis Pass. Just like some GoM posted how “dominating” they were last week, was the reason why we focused on them this week. I guess GoM will win this coming week.

My guild has been one of those constantly praising how great Borlis has fought hard to achieve what you guys have. We think it’s great that you guys took the lead, and we think it’s great you guys got your numbers out, but when I read stuff like this about how you guys spawn camp, it just seems you guys are getting big headed.

Sorry Godfather, he happens to be correct. Bring your “Focus”, it’s not like it’s a new thing to us.

Trust me plok, I will bring in that focus, this week we’ve really been just camp raiding in your area and that was like 3 x’s if i recall, no major focus by this guild at all. AR focused heavily vs GoM this week. Perhaps we’ll see you guys “take your breaks” again, since that’s how you put it the other week when we fought BP and left GoM pretty much alone, and also camping is camping, I don’t care if it’s outside an entrance of the spawn point, or at the entrance of the jumping puzzles, but at least have some respect, if you guys want to camp an area and kill, then do it to both sides. I have no problems with that, but if you guys are targeting just AR, then yes I have a problem with that. Keep your numbers up, you’ll need it this week.

Syndicate of Shadows, declares war on Borlis Pass.

Is this where we begin to shake?

Godfather.8217:

Metryn.8476:

Rashagal.5867:

BP camping puzzles, yet only attacking AR. Every GOM I saw was let through, and every AR I saw was killed.

Good to see you stayed classy since the server transfers flooded your server. /Sarcasm.

Guild tags were ORL and Oath.

Why stay classy with AR anymore? It’s always about how much better AR is than us. AR is just another step to climb anymore.

It’s my personal goal to take as many pugs after AR as I can, when the guild isn’t doing major objectives.

Should’ve kept your mouths shut instead of pissing off most of the BP WvW’ers, eh?

Good job buddy, you are now the reason why my guild SoS will be focusing every operation at Borlis Pass. Just like some GoM posted how “dominating” they were last week, was the reason why we focused on them this week. I guess GoM will win this coming week.

My guild has been one of those constantly praising how great Borlis has fought hard to achieve what you guys have. We think it’s great that you guys took the lead, and we think it’s great you guys got your numbers out, but when I read stuff like this about how you guys spawn camp, it just seems you guys are getting big headed.

Sorry Godfather, he happens to be correct. Bring your “Focus”, it’s not like it’s a new thing to us.

styx.7294:

Godfather.8217:

Rashagal.5867:

BP camping puzzles…..

……when I read stuff like this about how you guys spawn camp…..

Blah?

Huge difference between a spawn camp like emhry bay did to us and a blockade designed specifically to keep some pinned at the spawn. If you are referring to our action against AR a few weeks ago. Aside from that i have not seen spawn camping and I have been out quite alot this week.

Greebler.7843:

This shows yet another weakness in an already broken system.

Are you deranged? This is some of the best, balanced and fun large scale pvp I have played and I have been playing since the early days of DAOC. Plain and simple if thats all you are getting for badges, hit harder and/or more targets. On a good night ill pull in 150 to 200 badges. I am just under 10k wvw kills.

Glitches and bugs aside, they are working on them harder than any comepany I have ever seen work on issues.