Guild Wars 2

Sry but i am not the kind of person that accepts receiving crap just because it’s free. Some ppl maybe feel comfortable with it. And it’s not like u want to make it seem. It’s not about just a delay..it’s about crap that keeps piling up for months.

As things are now this is not a triple A game in my book. From my pov the sooner they make this thing p2p or atleast throw in a payed expansion the faster it’s recovery could come. At the start i was promised future content worth triple A and u can search and listen for all their adverts and interviews they did pre-release. It’s not even close to offering that. Half their content is copy paste while the other half has infuriating bugs that get solved a few days before it ends.

And biggest problem is even when they ask for time to fix stuff or do content properly like with scarlet, they disappoint in a huge way…so above all the bugs..there is no valid hope that things will actually get better from a quality pov.

I will support this game when it deserves to be supported. Each does how he wants.

@Zudet….everyone is replaceable in this time and age. If u were in the wvw team nobody would miss u..u would just get replaced. For each quitter there’s atleast 10 ppl who want to join. U are the least special flower on the planet and probably will not impress anyone with your action. U will actually prove that u can’t live up to the task

For how many months has a good portion of the community asked for payed sub or payed expansion? This because of the quality of content delivered.

Also when u bought the game u bought it with expectations fueled by the promises of the company. Not meeting those promises leads to loss of trust and in time customers.

For the ppl that still say it’s a f2p game u have no clue how much $$ comes from the gem store. Regardless for what i bought gems….the fact is they got $$.

Also by your logic i shouldn’t be expecting anything from this game at all…and just accept every crap they throw at me just because it’s labeled as free. If you feel great with that please go ahead and don’t QQ….but don’t come here protecting their crap as if we are supposed to receive content/systems like these. The only thing ppl like u encourage is the continuation of crap..not the fixing or improving.

Rewards system is part of the core functions.

Yes they have the money..they earn the same if not more then a monthly payed (to bad they keep forcing players to stop playing, with their second hand quality assurance).

As for teaching ppl their stuff….yes it might take some time depending on the skill level they hire. But they have to start somewhere compared to not doing anything at all.

The past few patches have been a statement to their quality assurance….starting with the scarlet end which took 2 months of doing and we were promised flawless content. Let’s be real nobody was expecting it to be flawless…but the bugs or the lack of vision at a common level not advanced level, made the whole epic feeling of the finale become frustrating to say the least.

If u ask ppl ingame they first expect the worst before thinking the best. That’s says a lot about the quality of content we have been receiving. Ppl started to not even think of the awesome content that might come…they just take bets on what will bug out in a way that makes them just quit trying to do that content

So we are entering the second week of a bug that should have been fixed 1-2 days after being reported (max)….if not through an automated system….through a manual system by checking player meta events + checking the winner server rankings which u already know both.

So…can we get an official statement on it? Don’t u guys think it’s kinda really very extremely biblically pathetic of an advertised AAA game to be unable to fix a reward system? What should our expectations for the future regarding major systems be?

Seriously ……..

It feels like they took something that was easy to understand and complicated it 10 times…also feels improvised.

Also related to achievement difficulty. How will they overcome the big problem that already exists now for some achievements? I mean achievements that kinda need more then 1 ppl to finish and u can’t find anyone willing to help because once finished players kinda don’t want to hear about it again.

“because…” that’s the only answer i can give u. It’s also the same answer i gave myself after not receiving the reward for wvw…. “because…”

Problem is not them wanting $$ …problem is they don’t offer anything for $$…either that or bugged out content that they don’t seem to have a clue about how to fix.

Lately the updates they do only offer cash shop items. That tells a lot not about their needs but about their mentality.

Draknar.5748:

Rebound.3409:

A game that relies on cosmetics as it’s endgame, and makes it almost impossible to buy without micro-transactions, in my book it’s called “p2w”

Other games have gear as endgame..this one has looks as endgame.

Win what though? Cosmetics are subjective. I’m 100% happy with my character’s look and he isn’t wearing any piece of armor from the gem store. Did I lose because some guy next to me is wearing a gem store set? Does he now win over me?

It isn’t P2W if the end-game is completely subjective. When gear/stats are end-game, that’s objective. They are better stats, thus you are better off than those without that gear. When skins are end-game, who’s to say one skin is “better” than another.

They are as subjective as gear/stats. As u might feel ok with your look..ppl in p2w games may feel good with their lower stats..having fun in other ways and not needing to invest time/money in +1 stat.

And honestly this pseudo-p2w applies here for gear/stats also (endgame). Events have less and less rewards/gold or are nerfed on a daily basis. The amount of time someone who doesn’t know how to play the AH has to invest in this game to get a few hundreds of gold is insane and only catters to the pinnacle of jobless ppl with almost no chance other then to do the same thing over and over again for 5+months in order to get enough gold to waste it for example on a precursor or to max out his crafting + then farm again for the ascended and so on.

Only way out for people who don’t literaly invest every bit of time and health in this game, is gems. A game that doesn’t offer REAL alternatives…not the crap we have now for event rewards and even better 0 drops from events such as the last one, to their cash shop is a p2w regardless of what u enjoy to get through it.

But again this is my view….if u guys like killing for 0 loot it’s fine i guess. Must be some neo-players.

ofc not….That event is a recycle event. That means they only copy-paste it from last year.

This time there is no LA to copy paste it over (LA has to be identical in form to what it was before it got destroyed in order to work/have sense)…so they completely threw it out the window.

And yes..before u ask…..all events in this game only happen in LA because all other towns were created just to give you the impression this game is bigger then 1 map. Because this is a AAA game.

Meglobob.8620:

No matter what they do now, Anet will get flak, no avoiding that now its messed up…

And for good reason and i encourage it to be that way. Some people didn’t receive their reward since season 1…

…All they had to do in this “2 months of no content at all” was to atleast create a reward system and a backup system for that in case it doesn’t work. (automatic/manual rewarding). In a real world people get fired in a split second after fails like this….not to mention the complete lack of professionalism when it comes to avoiding issues like this which even a small kid could come up with. No..instead they only relied on a rewarding system that sounds fishy from the start and that even failed in season 1 for ppl.

Oh but yea…i forgot…. the past year the whole company worked on the chinese version..we just got the leftovers.

No expectations..

…why you ask? …isn’t it obvious by now?!

A game that relies on cosmetics as it’s endgame, and makes it almost impossible to buy without micro-transactions, in my book it’s called “p2w”

Other games have gear as endgame..this one has looks as endgame.

Aaaaaand that’s EXACTLY what happens when u make everything be automatic.

Why not …. u know… just manually send Reward X to List Y after u see the last standings after the reset which u already have.

It’s a 30 min thing u had to do to pass through all tiers….First place Second place Third place and All the others.

But today is the last day he can get it…are u sure u don’t want to tell him? He won’t get another chance.

Some ppl haven’t gotten their reward chest since season 1 …my god.

This is kinda embarrassing honestly. Not only did we not get our rewards for a few days now, but we also didn’t get a news related to the winners and so on.

Honestly ANet….what happened to your quality standards. U keep delivering content like this for months now….be it pve or wvw. U guys should seriously start asking yourself some core questions because right now this is not a AAA game…maybe it was in the first year..but now absolutely not.

What makes an mmo keep the AAA title after launch are 3 things:
- Content provided (only temporary = none and a few changes here and there are called improvements not content)
- Quality of the content provided (all content even temporary had not small bugs which everyone can understand..but major bugs. Above all that it takes ages to fix)
- Customer Support (which ties to the second point in a way…).

U guys honestly transformed this game (considering the lack of content overall, repetitiveness of already existing content and overall gravity of bugs) into a B game at best. And considering this has been a repetitive trend in what u have been doing, my trust in your capability of delivering decent (not good…decent) content is rapidly falling. I can’t even imagine how many things will go wrong with S2 LS.

Now don’t get me wrong i am sure u will fix this….but it already took to much time AND this has been happening for some time now (not just for this specific wvw stuff, talking in general). That’s just unacceptable for the game it was advertised to be….and u can’t expect ppl to just eat cr** each time u make huge mistakes like this and make them think “oh let’s give them another chance…oh i am sure they will fix…oh i am sure the next thing will be better” because honestly each time we said that it hasn’t been…on the contrary it got worst.

Just take the LS scarlet ending…we accepted the 2 month break for u guys to make a biblical ending…..but the bugs that were there and the broken down/improvised systems made the whole “epic” part of the event be nonexistent….and we accepted 2 months! In which u deliberately said u wanted to give us an almost perfect polish for the final event….and look at what that got us.

The fact that ppl are ignorant or are to optimistic does not hide facts. You can’t lower your standard to a level where u think “don’t worry they can wait a bit longer because they either don’t care or they can wait till we finish”. That is a terrible business model.

They can’t communicate what they don’t know themselves.

I am sure they will add an option in the cash shop “For 800 gems u can unbug the chest u should have received for free!!! Limited time offer!”

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SINzmuT4oiw/UJWnESCgSdI/AAAAAAAAGXU/FKnuY_91hBw/s1600/facepalm-Godzilla.jpg

No chest yet……

No, it’s a badly redesigned one.

I lost count of how many chances have been given.

It’s keeping players there because it’s more action packed then pve is atm and it offers a bit more player interaction compared to pve. But the quality in wvw is deplorable. 90% of what u hear from ppl playing wvw is “bags”…even after fun battles happen what u hear is “oh man so may bags”

No it’s not. WvW players almost completely sacrifice pve all together. PvE has tons of areas that give u tons of gold/mats including dungeons/events.

WvW loot is just the way it should be. The amount of gold u get from a week of farm in wvw is equal to a day of dungeon farm in pve. That combined with the fact u might or might not get good loot in wvw depending on how good your server is.

Right now, because of the deplorable state WvW is in, the only thing keeping players interested in this game mod is loot..nothing else.

I am 90% sure they will just go on stream to cover their fail with excuses like “everything worked as intended” “we are glad it went the way it did” and congratulate servers for a toxic, pathetic and exploitable win in either matchups that were already as stable as possible or tell servers that “it’s ok not to actually play wvw in order to come on top 3 places because that’s how it’s intended”

All they ever say is they did a great job and everything went the way they wanted. I honestly don’t expect much more of a mentality from them anymore.

These excuse-streams have become a circus act.

Anet’s answer would most likely be: "Don’t worry u can just buy gems, convert them into gold and get it! Working as intended. Ps it’s temporary u should hurry!!! <3 "

Hats off to u then Static as rare as it is, i am happy ppl like u still play wvw

That would make this game a flawless communism that would leave even Stalin speechless.

Hint: Scarlet didn’t die

U should try here: blackgatewvw.com/forum/

It’s your best chance

Why would they do that? 1 spy on the other server = 1 bought game or 1 transfer = $$

Anything can go in this game including cheating/hacking/spying/exploiting as long as they get $$. Haven’t u learned that the past 2 years?

They will just come out with the usual bull*** “we are working on it” or “working as intended because we want to promote blaa bla bla bla bla” if they EVER answer :P

Stop creating silly threads pls ^.^

It’s exploitable. If i have for ex 3 characters each entered in one of the orders i can easily change inbetween them and debalance the fight.

Gz JQ on the S2 win

/bg player

I also think that’s the best idea. If u look at how things were before seasons it was a dream compared to now. Yes ppl were bragging/qqing..but now…u can’t even describe it. Anet has no clue how to fix this they just do experiments on their huge beta-testing community since the start of the game.

And u can’t expect them to shutdown seasons because 90% of the reason they did them is because of the sweet $$ they get every 2 months from transfers alone..let’s be real. If they cared any bit about it we wouldn’t have things like this happen or wvw would have the changes/improvements that have been asked since start now.

U either did not read all of my posts in this thread or you didn’t understand any of them or u are just blinded by fictive pixel hate which can be very harmful on your mental health long therm

3-4 straight weeks of 2v1 in a matchup that pre-season2 was probably the most balanced matchup in gw2 globally, is not balancing it’s exterminating 1 server. The other 2 servers were not having difficulties against the other server.

I don’t see any balancing in anet’s 2v1 + dumb system + 0 possibility for the loosing server to get back on track.

Or having servers deliberately not show up for the matchup in order to get a higher position in a league that should decide the winner through actual participation….i also don’t see the balancing.

All i see is anet going full desperation, and giving u the impression it’s balancing when in reality it’s as fake as possible.

I have a feeling u think that the winning server in S1 thought everything was great because they won. Actually no.. we did feel great because we won (and yes i am from that server)…it’s impossible not to feel good about something u achieved through a lot of work…but on the long run if u were part of the TS conversations and overall server conversations we OURSELVES hated the overstacking issue. A good number of us even posted on threads in S1 about lower level tiers being right about it and having a potentially very negative impact for the future of wvw if not changed.

Here’s a small exercise for all haters on the forums. Try thinking that a server that has thousands of players..isn’t made out of a handfull of vocal forum trolls that don’t know what winning is or what competition is and act like kids just to get attention. Never think that if u saw 1 guy post 1 thing in a thread 1 time..that that’s the image of the whole server.

I can assure u having read a lot of the threads S1/2 that even tho a few of us bragged about it (as i said it’s 100% natural and anyone would do that), the majority of us completely agreed with the issues S1 had and where against it….and that is a fact i can’t emphasise enough times regardless of how many trolls come here throwing accusations.

Last season “it wasn’t us, it was them”. This season “It’s us, it’s not them”. What does it matter who it is as long as the subject at hand is what’s wrong with WvW…not the server itself. U are not dening it ..u just don’t like that “it’s me from the big bad server” posting. U see the problem now?

As long as “it’s me from the big bad server that shall not be named but everyone knows about”, everything i say it’s not good…but if it were someone from the “divine server who never did anything wrong, never curses, always goes to church and promotes puppy love and piece on earth while 2v1ing”, the same message i wrote would have been the most beautiful thing ever read worth a Nobel prize. That’s the blind hatred i am talking about.

And that’s a good thing? What are u blaming me for? U are literally indirectly protecting a system (by attacking what i said) that u yourself have said it’s affecting even lower tier servers. It’s been bad for ages..but now it’s officially supported by anet as being what they intend.

Are u on premium quality crack? As i said…..WvW turned into blind accusations and rage directed at specific ppl for absolutely no reason. This discussion is about the overall state of wvw in which i gave an example i can backup because i was part of. I can’t speak for others. What u do? u fall exactly in the category i just said above.. “promoting with a passion blind hatred..false accusations”

PS: that BS “other servers are all screaming for help while you laugh at them, telling them” i dunno what tier u are but in top tiers ppl never ask for help. They are to full of themselves to do that (INCLUDING the winner server). They instead blame other factors that either false or exaggerated. I have never read/heard of someone in the higher even lower tiers asking for advice or help ingame or on the forums. I am sure if ppl opened up more and actually asked for advice in a mannered way almost no one would ever deny them.

Now u might say “well what are u doing now?”. I am pointing out that ANet instead of trying to fix toxicity and overall crumbling of their WvW system, they are promoting it with all they’ve got as if it’s a good thing. Some low lvl BM is always present in a competition i can’t deny that (it’s even good to have small BM because it sustains the level of competitiveness)..but making it mandatory and making it worst with every possible occasion u have is just unheard off.

I can’t honestly have a discussion about a certain topic as long as the reader attacks me with blind rage and doesn’t stay on topic with opened eyes/mind. Sry but have your WvW how u want if this is what u want

@Anomine: Working with what? It had 3-4 straight weeks of the same matchup and when it did get paired up with different servers, those were from T2 and they intentionally did not show up to manipulate the score and come on top. Read everything i said..it’s mainly because of the season SYSTEM. Swiss style does not work with what anet plans to do.

Also by the time u are being 2v1ed 3-4 weeks in a row i wonder how your mood to play wvw is.

I don’t want a faceroll like season 1 it was borring as fk…but season 2 was much more terrible. Atleast season 1 u had a fair fight to decide which was better. Now it came down to system manipulating/exploiting. It was terrible both for the losing server and for the winning server honestly. The fights were nonexistent for the 2 servers compared to a 1v1v1 and on longtherm they only kitten up the top tier matchup. Only thing that will be left longtherm will be just gvg.

WvW season 1 was about which server was better in a fair three way fight. It was about bragging.

WvW season 2 made WvW into something toxic…promoting with a passion blind hatred..false accusations, system manipulation and exploits instead of promoting fair play, good games and overall reason to be competitive.. Everything about WvW at the moment is toxic and repulsive to someone who wants to enjoy a game even at a competitive level. They copy-paste DAoC and turned it into an abomination.

The explenation is easy. DB for example deliberately (even acknowledged) lost matches/deliberately did NOT show up against T1 opponents to end up in third place via the swiss style system anet adopted. That’s just an example other servers did the same in other leagues or zones (eu).

Google a bit about how swiss style competitions work out and how points are distributed. ANet adopted a style that only works with lots of servers in the same league. It doesn’t work with what we have now.

This issue has been discussed in several threads for weeks now. You should be able to find some left that warn’t closed by anet because they naturally diverged into server bashing.

Aomine.5012:

This season is actually much more interesting than the last one.
Season 1 winner is pretty much determined by first 3 weeks, and no-one can refute the damage. People with more coverage will win, that’s it.
This season Anet opens up option of server cooperation, so there’s not a single “chosen server” that’re destined to win and stay invulnerable.

It shows that WvW has the potential to break this corrupted cycle of stacking in one “chosen server” to be carried to victory and make the matching much more interesting and meaningful.

This is the entire reason why Anet makes WvW"vW" the way they are, that the stacking server will not always win.

That is actually extremely false and as i said in my previous post u’ve been easily tricked because of 1 simple reason

The server that gets ganked by 2 well coordinated servers will literally NEVER-NEVER be able to do anything about it and will 101% lose. That’s not a good system. A good system is one in which the server that is being 2v1ed has a fighting chance. That combined with a kitten system that pairs u up for straight weeks against the same 2 servers…well u do the math.

The only thing this season did was make ppl actually think twice “why am i wasting my time in this?”

Nothing they do will change the boredom, stagnation, monotony of WvW. Even if they add 50 new skills to acquire via world ranks. WvW is only sustained by a handful of ppl who have nothing else to play atm. Their whole WvW game design is flawed. Being nr.1 equals nothing..rewards are a trademark fail of anet that no other mmo ever dreamed of acheaving. Achievement points are hilarious compared to everything else. U can have all pve+pvp achievements by now and still be 1/4 done with wvw. Lvling up your alts (in case u just like wvw) will auto-agro everyone on u. There are no custom made skins for being a wvw hardcore player.

Literally..whatever u like doing in this game…WvW doesn’t reward u with anything. Only ppl enjoying it are scrubs who play wvw 1/month and still don’t know the difference between a normal siege and a superior siege. Give them 1 month of constant play and they will be in the same boat.

WvW was managed poorly…and honestly getting ppl back at THIS stage is extremely hard close to impossible. Why? The GW2 era is slowly fading as other games are coming out. Once ppl are hooked on another game the chances of coming back are low…because by the time they get tired of the new game….another game will come out..and so on.

Take me for example. I’ve played since the first closed beta..i’ve done most of the things possible in this game…attended/finished all achievements for all events, got all items possible…got 3 legendaries (because i am not a trade-addict to make money)..got all classes with all of them 100% map, 100% stories in every possible way. All dungeons, 90% of skins from dungeons. The first “season” minis even tho i don’t care 1 bit about them. I have almost 250k wvw kills which indicates that i am a medium to high player in wvw from a TIME INVESTED point of view. I can craft any ascended i want having the mats for several (still haven’t decided on which stats). As someone who passed through everything this game has to offer i can tell u honestly nothing is worth the time u invest in it. U are not rewarded properly u are not being encouraged to play it and so on. I’ve done more farming in this game for every single thing then any other game. From dailies..to events that require u to do circle loops of farming, to mats to gold. This game has proven to be a top farmer cashshop game. Only difference between this and other games is u are tricked into believing it’s not hc farming.

Only thing ANet encourages is the cash shop which even tho a lot of u will not agree with me, in my opinion it’s a strictly pay2win cash shop. Remember this game does not revolve around stats. It revolves around skins. As long as 90% of the new skins that come out are on the cash shop, and drops being nerfed with every possible patch forcing u to buy gems or invest fake-gameplay hours in a game that was advertised as a non-farming game, that in my book is a p2w game.

I already have an mmo i have my eyes on. As soon as that one is out, this one will be history.

They will fix any event issues by adding rewards in the gem store.

What’s sad is this event was initially planned (and being copy paste content, it still is) as a 2 week event.

What i am saying is this temporary content doesn’t have enough meat for 4 weeks in my opinion. Already the number of ppl doing anything there is greatly reduced after 1 week.

First world problems

leman.7682:

Despite a huge negativity in this thread, I’ll try to be as constructive as I can.
The new Crown Pavillion is garbage.
That’s it. I’m out.

U won the internet

Sartharina.3542:

They’ve stated they want players to learn to self-organize for this sort of content.

The only problem is they’re not giving us the tools we need to self-organize. Organization requires information, and the current Crown Pavillion has terrible presentation and flow of information.

What is self-organize in an MMO? Limiting the participation of players (in an mmo which is supposed to be social) to content (~10/boss)? Other then that..fueling hate towards uplevels who also want to enjoy their temporary copy-paste content and were advertised as being able to do so which in reality is false? Giving players no reward for their organization apart for a few champ boxes which give u green items u farm in less then 10 minutes? Giving the more experienced players who COULD help organize the event absolutely no reason to do the event more then 1 time?

Are u even seeing how many things are wrong with what they are doing?

Yes please ANet stay true to your mmo policy…no loot and no interaction between players (chat/numbers) in mmos please. Someone getting a bag or someone having fun in events is unacceptable.

Please fix as soon as possible.

Also i would like (and i think i speak on behalf of the community here) for you to continue making HP hoarder bosses that require max 1 person to kill. Anything above 1 person will make the boss invincible. If ppl actually dare to have fun in numbers at a boss, make the game directly uninstall itself and ask for atleast 20$ compensation for such atrocity.

Nobody is doing anything there apart from 2-3 ppl fighting bosses in the mini-arenas 1v1 style…and the worst part is u need ppl there in order to complete the achievements in the first place.

Pure fail event as usual. Glad to see ANet lives up to expectations.

So far it was removed for that very reason (confirmed by dev on forums an year ago or so)…and it was there before release…so the “stupidity” as u call it, already took place. As for when and if they will ever introduce Cantha to fix that stupidity..nobody knows.

The only reason ppl wanted more often releases is because of how lackluster the previous release was. The same could be said about monthlies considering the last monthly content we had was refurbished stuff most already experienced and already did. Nobody commented on Scarlet’s attack Nr.1…but when they did the second part of it it was so bugged out after telling us they are specially taking a longer break specifically to polish it before release, it was comical.

Related to LA…. i don’t miss it..but it would be disappointing if they just copy/paste everything over and make it look identical like it was. It shows u how much “effort” they put in their game.

The general trend/mentality is this:

If u make fast updates but small atleast make them enjoyable don’t make it a chore-event in which u go farm a bunch of stuff and repeat it like a farmer.

If u make slow but big updates be pretty sure u make them flawless and u offer enough.

That’s life my friend..we live in a fast passed world. We are not in the 90’s anymore when games where rare and there warn’t means to do updates and so on easily. Everything in our time is fast. If u can’t keep up with demand/quantity/quality that’s not good.

The only reason people ask for expansions is because they got tired of all the betatesting ANet has done on us with their living story and all their failures and tries. They got tired and said “u know what? u can’t handle this…let’s do it the traditional way..we pay u..u take your time..and u do something proper because it’s obvious u really can’t live up to expectations when it comes to LS”..and expectations vary. I am sorry to tell u this but this is an mmo, not a single player custom made for you and you only. U adress all kinds of ppl from all kinds of cultures from all corners of the map. U don’t have the same opinion about a thing when u talk with one of your friends..how about when u put tens of thousands of ppl together how many common opinions do u think u will get? That’s part of the mmo risk.