Guild Wars 2

Are we really crying about numbers again?
I mean, I could count as many ballistas as you did cout KISS in the respective camp on AG-BL. :P
At the end of the day it’s just a game. If you see so many players in a camp, doing nothing dangerous, move on and prey they wont attack anything (or just leave a slippery scout).

Yesterdays AG-BL southwest camp action was just priceless. I never had such a fight for a stupid camp (and a few trebs) with all 3 parties included!
Sadly I dont have screenshots of the actuall fight with RSvsYakvsFURY in the camp.

Dont know how all this started, but just to stay clear: I dislike the fact, that AG lost this matchup because we didnt lose hard enough to drop a tier. I think dropping a tier would clear some heads and bring some fresh gameplay! So I dont mind losing. But I wished we would lose it harder.

@Slomo

Now you got some new ones from SFR, lets see how they fit.
Will be a nice and close matchup with Gandara,AG and RS.

Greets Myrmi

I am really exited for this! If they left SFR, they should be motivated enogh to ignore the scores and drama and just play the game. This is what this server leaks the most imo.

Yes, you have no players at all.

Thanks for posting a screen of the people that are responsible for the queue. If I could see the names I would whisper everyone of them next time I am in queue.

Karahol.9840:

I don’t think you do justice to Aurora Glade for this week’s performance. You may expect more but this game is a numbers game and also we don’t have many WvWvW focused guilds that cover with events 24/7 all maps.

Also, our gamestyle is semi-hardcore. We don’t siege up everything we own with 10 arrow carts per gate. We like to play it tough and risk a lot. Our individual players also don’t play tanky builds with warriors or guardians like Baruch Bay or Gandara. They play other classes that excel in small scale fighting but lose in zerg fights. Still, i believe that many of ours enjoy these fights a lot and won’t get bored of them.

And one last thing:
I see only screenshots before attacking Keeps or inside Keeps blaming for Blobs and such. Guys, learn to play the game. If all your other structures are safe and one is in danger, everyone will gather there. If attackers want to take a structure with 10 defenders in and some tons of siege, they will have to have numbers. It’s only obvious!

So, Aurora Glade rocks even when we are losing big time!

I disagree with so much in this posting. I dont know where to start.
1st: It is a numbers game. But if the numbers can be close or x1.5 size for one side, it wouldnt matter with propper organisation.
Wich we dont have because there are very few good PUG commanders left. Also this whole drama thing going on isnt really motivating for many people.

Our playstile is semi-hardcore? How did that happen?
As far as I can tell our playstyle is mostly fighting and attacking. Rarely I ever meet someone defending or more importantly SCOUTING something. If our playstyle would be something-hardcore, we would have scouts all over the place like Gandara has. People are too afraid of missing out some WXP and loot to be just scouting.
And most guilds cant afford to leave 2 players behind for every objective in order to have a chance if they meet enemy groups of players.
Also the fact that sieging something almost equals throwing supply at the objective means that:
Defense -> No rewards!
Scouting -> Little rewards, might get slaughtered by a group of enemys, cant afford that!
Attacking -> LOOT, WXP GIMME MOAR!!!!!!
Sadly this mentality got into the heads of many good guilds too.

Last point however is true. And a flaw of the map design. What do you attack if you dont have anything in a BL?
Closest tower to your spawn. So you trigger the siegerazer, go cap a camp in the hopes that someone will try to recap the camp instead of defending the tower, and pray that your plan works. However, almost noone will stay at the tower and create a fortified position. Everyone will try to smash their heads into the next Keep…

Combine this with the fact other servers have actually people who go and defend stuff instead of arriving 5 minutes after flipping, and you can explain the score.

Cheers. I hope TDS will have a nice time again.

From Slomo with love. <3

I dont know why we are talking about anyone blobbing. Most of this week on AG went like this:
Press B → Join AG Border → queue
→ Join EB → queue
→ Join BB/Gandara → outmanned buff.

Lets be realistic. If anything, AG lost because it has to few WvW players. :P

Simonoly.4352:

Gawd, BB night crew have definitely been breeding over the weekend. You’re allover the place in the small hours of the morning and we just don’t have enough people to stop you from capping everything. Luckily, the few of us around have been able to bunker down in Gandara BL garrison or our keep on EB to stop the BB tidal wave. Although, one of the main reasons we’ve managed to hold a keep or garrison with ease, is due to how unorganised and bizarre the BB night crew are. It’s far too easy to funnel you guys into choke points and your siege placement is atrocious and so easy to take down. It might just be that the current BB night crew aren’t very experienced, but literally all it would take is one guy on BB to say “hey lets put our treb here, instead of here” and your score would be even higher.

AG, where on earth are you this week? Your early morning presence is as small if not smaller than ours. I miss you!

Sorry, this week our server is busy creating drama and holding meetings about the future life of AGs WvW population.

majos.8503:

drongas.4189:

llew.7493:

drongas.4189:

Seregon.2187:

Again, the Tyrian Dueling Society had a nice meetup at the windmill. Many good duels occured! However, where are those BB guys? It’s basically only Gandara and AG

u kidding? they fear fight in field 1 vs 1, and 1 vs 2, and sometimes 1 vs 3. especialy dsd boys
why u need unskill players in holy windmill?

-Funny how servers with players as skilled as you are in T4, and losing the match against unskilled people as BB

i speak about duel and roams not about zerg and pug zerg.
if u dont know 1 man cant do something like take keep or protect it.

I would like to know who would win in a duel You (the 1337 player) agianst Tikiitaka from OdS (It’s from BB so he is a kittening noob, right?)

I dont want to judge anyones skill, but I for myself about 50:50 with Tikiitaka. Depending on dayform and builds a bit. I wouldnt call myself pro.
Not comparable to my 0:100 Osicat from Gandara.
Or 1:99 vs Blaba.

Dark Lord Killer.9473:

Hmm a new guild to Gandara… called [YOLO]… although I do not know the full guild name, I’m thinking YOLO refers to the popular wording under teens for ‘You Only Live Once’. Just a serious question, does this mean you leave the battlefield after dieing once? Because your guildtag states you only live once.

Nah Argwulf, dont worry. They helped me doing my WvW-Invader killing monthly tonight. Many, many fights, and many, many wipes (mostly we got wiped) they stood up until now. Now I feel like in Asterix and Obelix. The last bastion cant be taken my the masses of Gandaras!
Keep trying to get Redlake, the loot is good!
BTW: HUGE thanks to TUP for the awesome fun tonight!

Most of these are good ideas that should have been in the game for a long time. If half of these ideas will come into the game, I will marry Mr. DevonCarver.

(Un)Fortunately I lost a lot of faith into the WvW department of Anet already (like most people did) so even the slightest improvements will motivate me to keep playing.

B Rad.5416:

Any Gandara or Aurora Glade NA WvW guilds? I’m thinking about transferring over from Jade Quarry.

AG has some. Not many, but some.

This thread in a nutshell.

Minfast.5489:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h37KQu64RY4

Just for you Corran.

Sorry for slight offtopic.
But what is Clarkson doing in this video. I laughed so hard!
Thanks for posting!

IDarko.4709:

Pictures say everything…

http://imgur.com/sg0kPiA

After killing straglers and small groups on the wall for a while, we decided to do a suicidal push for the catapult. but guess what? Squishie as paper! Phat lewt!

http://i.imgur.com/mzkAZAY.jpg

Big thanks to WvW and a few of the other AG guilds for playing with less and giving us a fun and challenging time without skill lag! <3

Rookni.2469:

I am by no way defending my own server here and I know Gandara blobs up just aswell as anyone else. I will however state the fact numerous times over the next weeks just for the hell of it! People will eventually learn not to take me serious anyway.

Shoutout to We Vanquish Worlds though. Thought you fell easily down by ruins, but then you got us badly at Sunny Hill later Very good play.

But sometimes today when a enemy zerg did something funny it was like a Oprah show! “YOU GET A LOOT BAG” “YOU GET A LOOT BAG” “YOU GET A LOOT BAG” “AND YOU GET A LOOT BAG” YOU GET A LOOT BAG" … “EVERYONE GET A LOOT BAG”

Haha, thanks guys. The fight at ruins was a major f-up from our side. We paniced a bit, a mesmer put a veil in the wrong direction and when we started to push we fell down into the 2m lake and had to swim. That was pretty noobish from us.
The fight at Sunny was nice however. This time we didnt panic and didnt have to swim. We expected you to come back again, but you went to defend Bay I guess. So we left the wall open for PUGs to push inside. Since nobody came we got so bored, that we build 2 trebs at sunny. Suddenly FSP got Bay and ran past Sunny to Garrison. Someone turned around and was “wtf guys, look the wall is open! lets get sunny” and we got wiped by much bigger numbers.

Was fun nevertheless. Keep it up guys!

Ruprect.7260:

My guess is you will be able to add 1 supply per level, if you look at the picture it looks like there are 5 levels to it, so it is like having the guild buff. I don’t think it will be a big deal as we usually have a camp or 2 with this buff anyway.

Edit: Unless it stacks and allows you to carry 20, that would be huge.

That would be pretty stupid because you cant even repair a gate or wall with 1 supply (it tells you you havent enough supply) unless Anet fixes this issue. But judging by the past they wont fix it and work around it. And that will (imo) will lead to +2 supply per lvl.

Zumy.6318:

Shabanezzi.9386:

Germans are coming…they bring many gifts…

:D

Never ever seen BAKA in this entire 5 or 6 weeks of AGvsRS. Nice to see new PvE hordlings joining the WvW-Zerg.

BTW, your signature is copyrighted by a big Warhammer troll. You dont deserve it.

You may not have seen him. But he was streaming the action for a long time now.

TNxPhil.7296:

Nice Try AG

Thanks!
Sadly BB backstabbed us hard so we split up to defend Garri and hold position on Hills till we get finished. Sadly we failed at both.

Anyways, noone was really sad about it. Because we hat a lot of fun fights in the evening! And that is the main motivation for us. So keep it up!

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

Muahahaha! Noone is complaining about [KISS]. Our plans are going ahead smoothly.

I wonder why people complain about us since we hardly ever get 4 full partys together.

Yes Argwulf, you got your conditions removed. Since you play mostly Guardian you cant imagine how painful it is for other classes to have a condition remove instantly when you need it. lol

There is a counter to every spell in this game. Just try an staff ele with condition remove on regenaration. Eats trough binding roots easily.

LieutenantGoogle.7326:

Yes I enjoy taking 4 minutes to walk from citadel to bay, lets make it 10 minutes instead.

In the control options, there is a option for “toggle walk/run” try that out.

Joking aside, the Borderlands are fine as they are imo. But EB ist just too packed. You really cant run 30s without bumping into something to cap. And since the “defense zones” of each server are so small it results in gigantic zerging because you dont really have to run that far to defend.

eaxe.8570:

More waypoints would be nice.

I hope this is a joke. I cant imagine a place where a new waypoint could be added. Towers? JPs?

If anything, make the maps bigger. Esp. EB is just a zergfest since you can’t run 10s without bumping into an objective to cap.

Hey, you should check this interview out:
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7169/What-Marchs-WvW-Patch-Will-Bring.html

sekundentod.4105:

thanks to the wvw guild we had some nice fights today on ET against you well played

Out of curiosity, how many people were you running. Sometimes it felt like we wiped you without big problems, and got owned by the other half of your force afterwards.

Not saying it is you fault. Probably just another kiddo from a random PvE guild trying out some hacks he found.
Just, if you know what guild this is or who the guy is, punish him.

Yo, dudes. About the “not deserving 2nd place”:

Tell him to kitten off please.

Have a nice week!

This time: Keep whining at a minimum. Dont come to complain about people camping JPs. Dont cry about lost SMs and Keeps if there is a new build.

Cheers from one of the animals with fireworks guys. Lets hope we meet again with Gandara in a few weeks. you guys are cool!

EDIT: Exactly the one you killed while i was typing this lol.

Thats the problem in GW2. Everyone is a zerg because you never know how many they are. If you get wiped: zerg. If you see red names: zerg.
Hell, yesterday I had 2 guardians and one elementalist from Riverside capping a supply camp. They appeared and dissapeared 3 times. When tehy finished capping they saw me and attacked. I only noticed when i was half dead.
So if you run around at evenings and see any enemy you should always be careful and expect a zerg beforehand.

Hi, is Turkish Air Force [TuAF] a regular/known guild for Gandarans? Had some nice small scale battles with them today.

Stop the flaming already. It doesnt get us anywhere.

Just a question to RS: How many Golems did you have when capping our Garrison? I got reported 8, but I’m not sure.

Cheers. Stop defending our bay!

Oh cmon, stop attacking the friendly EB march already…

Kudos to a FS engie from [FoF] who was fooling with me and my Charr warrior friend on AG borderlands. You like people chasing you, don’t you?

Respect to those FS invaders from [WILD] and a thief in the AG jumping puzzle achiving nothing but camping there for 15 minutes. lol

Props for a lot of good fights tonight. Was a lot of fun.
Also something general for FSP: don’t run so many roaming/glasscannon builds if you get to a group of more than 3 people.
Even tho I lost every small scale battle last week against Riverside and Gandara, I had surprisingly good odds in the battles against you this week.
I don’t know if they were pugs without any clue and tactic, but seemes that you aren’t geared for teamfights most of the time.

Thanks for all the fighting in Gandaran BL last night. Was a lot of fun!
Was funny to see that everyone had 1 keep in each BL for a time.

Cymru.3942:

Been having some great battles last few nights we, the real [WvW] not those imposters from Germany

I stopped reading here. Party because I wasnt involved into those battles, but mostly because this isn’t true.

How the hell can you call yourselves “real [WvW]” if it doesn’t even fit to your guild name?!
We vanquish Words is the only ture [WvW] guild. Remember it! :P

Great fights overall. A bit sad that we from AG cant do really much at primetime except defending. Yesterday we started a breakout event at the Gandara BL with about 15-20 people and you were so many defenders that you wiped us the second we could build our siege equipment. WIPE US WITH SIEGERAZER LIKE WE ARE ONE OF THOSE RABBITS RUNNING AROUND!!
Was a lot of fun to fight vs you afterwards at the SW supply camps. So props to you and keep it up!

Thanks to JS guild MOCO who provided constant action in the AM borderlandy today. Was a lot of fun fighting vs you! Our [WvW] team liked you today. Even tho it was a bit pointless for you to hang around the South-East camp the whole time!

Hey Mike, thank you for the answers in this thread. Allow me one question tho:
You answer the questions as good and fair as you can. But most of the time it is the same basic answer: "We are aware that this is is problem, we identyfied some weak spots we could fix, but this is not on the priority list/we will work on that in the future/not on anyones schedule. So what is the team doing apart from two people who are working on the culling and some who do math and thinking about other methods of getting/using badges. For me it looks like you aren’t really working on the suggestions and wishes of the community for the next upgrades.

Instead I feel like you (like many other developers) are mostly ignoring the communitys desires and try to force your own ideas/content into the game.

DutchError.7039:

DaYeL.1495:

HtFde.3856:

Svarty.8019:

This matchup is boring.

Well – I wouldn’t say that. The outcome seems to be pretty much decided already, yes, but all three servers involved have a good fighting spirit and there’s some pretty intense fighting, especially so from 10pm CET onward.

We may dominate the map at times but you keep us running around, for sure.

Funny to read this when the last WvW guild left WSR some days ago.
Dzago is just pwning cause of the lacks of numbers of the others 2 servers, in the tier above, it will take kick in the teeth again.
Im sad for GH it dont deserve to stay here. Im happy instead to see WSR in this bad situation. WSr population never gave support the to few WvW guilds, now im happy to see them complain about the bad situation

Did you and your guild leave WSR yet? If so, where did you go?

I remember you being a good commander, the problem was most people not actually listening to your orders and randomly bashing their heads into the nearest keep/tower/SM without siege and any form of strategy.

Dayel left with his guild MdA to Aurora Glade. Some other italian guilds moved too.

Efimerlin.3094:

Just out of curiosity, what support from the population were you looking for?

Is it that you bought a commander book so now everyone has to listen to, and do whatever you say?

Or is it some other kind of support you were expecting, i’m not trolling here i genuinely want to know what this support you expected is?

Generally the attitude PvE players and “random”-WvW players bring towards you. When you run around in Lions Arch with activated commander, people ask you wtf you are doing in Lions Arch. If you ask for donations in BL or EB, you get mostly flame. If you try to lead a Zerg and make a mistake, people will flame and spam the chat. If you want to teach somebody that rezzing a downed player is better than chasing some thief, you get flame.
I could go further, but I know Dayel and his guild, and people burn out if the outcome of a match depends only on the 3-4 big WvW guilds (big is a relative term, not 500 but maybe 25-30 online players per event per guild).

The general problem I see in WSR is that people dont want to communicate and use chat properly. People dont like to defend stuff. And many good, small guilds left WSR after WSR played vs Aurora Glade because they saw how bad WSR was compared to them.

When I left WSR for a mid-tier server 3 days ago it was like a dream. People use chat for usefull info. If you upgrade something, there is a good chance that someone will defend. Commanders from different guilds dont hate on each other, they get the idea of sitting in the same boat.

Sry for a bit of off-topic, but here are my 2 cents. I wish good luck to all partys. Even tho DZ has some of the most awful guild name + tag combinations in WvW.

You know why?
Because noone cares in WR about WvW. I regulary see people farming Wolves for gold, instead of defending the Garrison 50 meters away from them. It’s only 1 zerg (WvW-Guild and MDA mostly) and these guilds just dont have the numbers like other servers have.
WR hasnt even a functional community forum. Reddit guild is huge(has the numbers and could have the structure), but consisting mostly of casuals who dont play anymore and people who don’t want to spend any money for upgrades.

Last week someone from my guild talked to people from Piken Square and they said “If we are bored, we dont go for Orr and jumping puzzles. We go invade your homelands.”

WR has no functioning big alliances who transfered from other MMOs and no organisation. If you want WvW, you should change the server while its free and accept the waiting times.

I think noone does it because they share cooldowns and you get a lot of downtime/autoattack-AFKing off that.