Guild Wars 2

So wait.. you want Ascended weapons, which already have the same LEVEL of stats as legendary to be able to swap stats around just like a legendary?

Essentially you want a Weapon with Legendary stats and capabilities for like one tenth the cost…

ummm no…. that’s a horrible idea…

Can I get a dev response to this please?

What about people who have “unlocked” all the minis (which can be proven by checking the account but no longer have said minis? For instance, mine I gave away to guildies so they could complete their collections and yet now I get punished for my generosity. Though I have"unlocked them all" I can not use them…

Hamster.4861:

Well done OP!

and that ultimate dominator shuts up just about everyone =P

No it doesn’t…

He has spent a year doing nothing but karma training in EoTm with a staff… I doubt he’s even stomped anyone… too busy tagging…

That build would get ANNIHILATED in “real” WvW.

My suggestion take the training wheels off and step out of the little leagues before posting a paper achievement like this…

In regards to your Ultimate Dominator title… like I said he hit 250k people for like 200 damage a piece then moved on…

Amurond.4590:

Otaur.9268:

Amurond.4590:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I seriously suggest you stand menacingly in the distance of a keep while people debate on whether they should approach your or not just for lol’s. Imagining the conversations they’d be having would be hilarious, “Holy f_ck, Diamond Legend for real? … Go poke it, I’ll pay you.”

If they’ve seen the screenshots posted in this thread, then there would be no debate.

LOL #SPEAKTHETRUTH
I’d be more intimidated by Ultimate Dominator title…

Yeah Guardian staff 1ing into zergs too stronk

Deli.1302:

Congratz Funny Sunny Bunny!

Chaba.5410:

EOTM is not WvW

He got up to mid-Mithril rank from doing actual WvW and switched to EotM during the Spring Tournament. And he’s had Ultimate Dominator for god knows how long now.

riiiiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhht……

AmFah.5974:

how many guys made it yet? =D

thanks to everyone for joining in the good and in the bad times,

supporting me and bein on the battlefield!

im not getting any more wxp, the wxp bar is just full and it shows:

49,979,000 / 49,979,000 WvW Experience

Real WvWer’s stopped paying attention to your post when we saw the pics were in EoTm…

Congrats Diamond karma trainer!

MRA.4758:

Darmikau.9413:

I think there’s a disconnect between what content we get, and what content players feel they should be getting. If you’re asking the question “has there been content?” then the answer is, of course, yes.

If you’re asking “does the scope of the content we’ve received match what we received in GW1?” then the answer is very far from yes.

Oh, really? Didn’t knew that. Well, then let’s see what we free updates got for our full box price in GW1 when compared to GW2:

GW1 Prophecies:

• Sorrow’s Furnace
• Tomb of the Primeval Kings revamp
• Helloween quests
• Wintersday quests
• constant balancing updates

GW2 (blatantly copied from the wiki):

• Mad King’s Labyrinth zone,
• Reaper’s Rumble and Lunatic Inquisition activities,
• Mad King’s Clock Tower jumping puzzle
• Ascent to Madness dungeon
• Costume Brawl activity
• Modus Sceleris events, Skritt Burglar events, and dozens more
• Tribulation Caverns, Hexfoundry Unhinged, Hidden Garden and Coddler’s Cove jumping puzzles
• Forsaken Halls and Vexa’s Lab mini-dungeons and many new exploration achievements
• Southsun Cove map, including many new events and Under New Management and Skipping Stones jumping puzzles
• Fractals of the Mists dungeon consisting of several fractals, explorable chunks of reality from the Mists based on past events in Tyria’s history
• Temple of the Silent Storm map in structured PvP
• Wintersday event, featuring Snowball Mayhem, Bell Choir Ensemble and Toypocalypse activities, Winter Wonderland jumping puzzle and Tixx’s Infinirarium dungeon
• Breakout events in WvW
• Laurel currency
• Ascended gear
• Guesting
• Guild missions, along with new currencies Guild Merits and Guild Commendations
• Spirit Watch map in structured PvP
• World Experience
• Removal of culling
• Super Adventure Box
• Molten Facility dungeon
• Custom Arenas and Spectator Mode in structured PvP
• Crab Toss activity
• Stealth Disruptor and Supply Removal Traps in WvW
• Canach’s Lair dungeon
• Island Control meta event and Karka Queen boss fight
• Angvar’s Trove guild puzzle
• Dragon Bash festival with the Dragon Ball and permanent Moa Racing activities
• Aetherblade Retreat dungeon and Not So Secret jumping puzzle
• Torment condition
• Labyrinthine Cliffs zone with the floating sanctuary of Zephyr Sanctum
• Achievement rewards
• Belcher’s Bluff and Sanctum Sprint activities and Lessons from the Sky scavenger hunt
• Skyhammer map in structured PvP
• Candidate Trials, Aspect Arena and Southsun Survival activities
• Kiel vs Gnashblade, Indecision 1326 A.E.
• The Crown Pavilion with the Queen’s Gauntlet
• Wallet to hold all account currencies
• Champion and daily dungeon rewards
• Daily activity rotation
• Solo arena queue in structured PvP
• Scarlet’s Playhouse dungeon
• Scarlet’s minion invasions
• Magic Find account wide, Luck
• Weaponsmith, Artificer and Huntsman crafting disciplines can progress until level 500
• Defeat Tequatl the Sunless event is completely redesigned
• Ruins of Power added to the Borderlands in WvW
• Looking For Group tool added to the Contacts panel
• One of the paths in explorable Twilight Arbor is replaced by the new Aetherpath
• Tower of Nightmares in Kessex Hills
• Antitoxin Spray healing skill available for all professions
• New fractals: Thaumanova Reactor, Molten Furnace, Aetherblade, Captain Mai Trin Boss and Molten Boss
• Mistlock Instability in higher levels of Fractals of the Mists
• Armorsmith, Leatherworker and Tailor crafting disciplines can progress until level 500 to craft ascended armor
• New healing skills for every profession
• Triple Trouble meta event, Evolved Jungle Wurm world boss to kick your kitten!
• Twisted Marionette Weapon Test event
• Edge of the Mists map in WvW
• Lion’s Arch is under attack by Scarlet’s forces!
• Scarlet’s Prime Hologram boss event and Scarlet’s End
• Trait system redesign, 40 new traits
• Ferocity attribute for increasing critical damage, rune and sigil effects updated
• Account-wide dye unlocks and wardrobe for armor and weapon skins
• Account-bound world experience, legendary and ascended equipment
• PvP reward tracks, PvP Locker merging with the wardrobe
• Megaserver system
• Story Journal for living world storylines
• Tangle Root meta event in Brisban Wildlands
• Dry Top, Sandstorm meta event, and dozens new events
• Ambrite weapons
• Mysterious Vine back item, Cultivated Vine, and Mawdrey + Mawdrey II scavenger hunt
• infrequent balancing updates

Yeah, now I see what you mean.

Serious question: Is there really someone here who bought the game back in Summer 2012 and honestly assumed that we would receive that amount of constant updates and support for the price of a single boxed copy?

~MRA

90% of what you listed is either “features/gameplay adjustments” or temporary content…

Hate to burst your bubble there…

Mark Katzbach.9084:

ipan.4356:

2 years is a long time for an MMO not to release anything.

I think you are mistaken. We have released content and features in the last two years on a fairly regular basis. Just because the content and/or features were things that you personally did not particularly care for doesn’t mean we didn’t release anything.

Please don’t trivialize the efforts of our design and development staff down to “nothing” because you didn’t like it. It’s fine to comment that you didn’t care for what was released, but don’t pretend like we’ve done nothing here for the past two years.

Sorry… not to step on your toes here but if the majority of the LS content you released could be completed in 2-4 hours of zerging then yes you released nothing…

if you say for instance extrapolated that out over 6 months to a MAJOR content release like say a mini expansion or the like, it would add up to 24 hours of in game new content which to be honest by MMO standards is pretty poor…

Just sayin…

Shinya.2598:

As in title.
We need the skins from first Halloween available for BL Claim Tickets.
I mean the Scythe staff, the Greatsaw etc.
The Christmas skins are there, right?

Nope never going to happen for two reasons…

1) exclusivity of having been on and supported GW2 since launch or at least their first real “event”

2) If they did they would have to refund a TON of players who have those skins listed on the TP as they would now never sell…

and rest assured this was asked for before in a thread HUNDREDS of posts long last Halloween

Carighan.6758:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Precursor scavenger hunt…

Tell me again how you don’t talk speculatively?

I would wager that this was a major part of why they stopped talking about things in development, actually.

See that’s not the problem though… The problem is they never came back and said a month or two later something along the lines of… “Hey guys I know we said this but currently logistically it just is not possible so it is going to have to go back burner for a bit. Please know we are going to continue to work on something of this nature but as of now we cannot put a timetable to it…”

Had they JUST DONE THAT… it would have been find and I think satiated the masses… but they didn’t… they dropped a bomb then never talked about it again…

The issue is a lack of accountability. The good people in this world tell of their successes, the great own up to their failures…

Please note I have 7 legendaries so I am only doing this on behalf of others…

This was almost 2 years ago now…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

After this we heard NOTHING… literally NOTHING from anyone regarding precursor scavenger hunt or crafting…

Ayrilana.1396:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Ayrilana.1396:

I can’t edit my post since the forums are acting up.

The OP stated that they wanted to assign multiple controller buttons to perform an action. Kind of similar to using shift+F to perform an action with a keyboard. The Anet employee stated that this seemed okay.

You then said that the OP and Anet were wrong by stating that it is a macro which is assigning multiple actions to a single key. This was the exact opposite of what was going on. You then called the Anet employee a hypocrite by extension of your comment about Anet’s dollar making hypocrisy.

Theres a big difference between assigning multiple keys to perform an action vs a single key to perform multiple actions.

The dev stated assigning multiple actions to 1 key is a big nono… which is also verifiable in the TOS

I stated that this is a hypocrisy given they have marketed their brand onto a peripheral that is designed to do exactly that… use macros and has designated keys for them…

I never accused the OP of trying to assign multiple actions to one key… If you believe I did then please show me where I did so…

If that was your intent with your post then okay. However, that brings up another question. Why did you create a post in this thread that had nothing to do with the OP’s post or anything discussed in this thread? That keyboard was never mentioned until you brought it up.

I brought it up as a direct counter argument to what the dev stated. Are we not allowed to question the validity of a dev’s statement on the forums?

Mike O Brien.4613:

I know some are concerned about whether ArenaNet is communicating with you and listening and responding to your feedback. As you saw with yesterday’s announcement, we do. All of us at ArenaNet play the game with you, chat with you and read your forum posts, and work on the things that we think will most delight and entertain you.

We’ve set a clear policy in the past year: we don’t talk speculatively about future development. We don’t want to string you along. Creating fun is an uncertain business: sometimes things work out and sometimes they don’t; sometimes we go back to the drawing board over and over before we get something right. If we make optimistic promises and then can’t deliver on them, everyone suffers. So when we attend a trade show or give an interview, we’re there to talk about what we’re getting ready to ship, not to speculate on what we might ship someday.

Don’t read that as meaning that we don’t want to talk with you about the longer-term roadmap. The intention of the CDI threads is to talk with you about the roadmap. We want to talk design philosophy with you and hear how you want to see the game evolve. When those discussions trigger development, we’ll work internally until we have something we’re proud of before we’ll announce it.

A lot of the questions I’ve seen posted this week are as simple as this: does ArenaNet have an agenda to never do something? That’s almost never the case, and if it is the case you deserve to know and we’ll make sure we get more clear. In general the simple truth is this: when we’re not currently working on something, it’s because we’re working on something else instead that we think is more important for the game and community.

Our developers post on these forums on a voluntary basis, and in addition to developers, we have a community team who can clarify and be the bridge between players and developers. They’re ready to engage you on these topics. And I know it’s hard for the community team to engage players across all the forums and sites where these questions are being discussed, so I’m going to support the team in consolidating and focusing as necessary, so that we can be clear to the community where you can go to get a response.

See you in-game,
Mike O’Brien

Precursor scavenger hunt…

Tell me again how you don’t talk speculatively?

Please know I do appreciate the time and effort put in to making this post. One long overdue but at least it is now here… Just please don’t make statements that are blatantly untrue…

There are many other instances of features being said that they are being developed some even given a preliminary time table… all to be lost to oblivion never to be spoken of again… I just used precursor scavenger hunt as the most obvious example.

Ayrilana.1396:

I can’t edit my post since the forums are acting up.

The OP stated that they wanted to assign multiple controller buttons to perform an action. Kind of similar to using shift+F to perform an action with a keyboard. The Anet employee stated that this seemed okay.

You then said that the OP and Anet were wrong by stating that it is a macro which is assigning multiple actions to a single key. This was the exact opposite of what was going on. You then called the Anet employee a hypocrite by extension of your comment about Anet’s dollar making hypocrisy.

Theres a big difference between assigning multiple keys to perform an action vs a single key to perform multiple actions.

The dev stated assigning multiple actions to 1 key is a big nono… which is also verifiable in the TOS

I stated that this is a hypocrisy given they have marketed their brand onto a peripheral that is designed to do exactly that… use macros and has designated keys for them…

I never accused the OP of trying to assign multiple actions to one key… If you believe I did then please show me where I did so…

Ayrilana.1396:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Gaile Gray.6029:

As forum members expressed in this thread, we feel that a player mapping multiple actions to one key — for example mapping an attack and a self-heal type skill to a single keystroke — would have an advantage over a person playing the game as designed, with one keystroke per action.

Our policy is that we cannot approve such uses, but I can say that from what I’m reading, what you have described does not appear to be a matter of concern because you are not “cutting corners” by trying to get a series of actions on a single key.

I hope that is helpful information.

Using macros (which by definition is assigning multiple key strokes to one key) is a violation of the GW2 TOS. You even confirm it here on this thread…

This has been around since launch-

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/new-the-steelseries-guildwars2-gaming-keyboard/

You have TOS that bans for using macros and endorse a product that is specifically designed to use them…

Pricelessly laughable… The dollar making hypocrisy is REAL! lol

You should read this thread more closely next time or do some reading comprehension exercises.

SAT preparation websites are a good source. After some training, what’s been said will become more clearer for you. I wish you the best of luck.

Wow you are such a rude ridiculously horrible human being.

My statement still stands true… The GW2 steelseries keyboard is designed to support the use of macros… 99% of macro usage in games is to perform multiple actions in one keystroke… anyone who has been playing MMOs for any amount of time will tell you that…

Note my post isn’t an attack on the OP or any of the players but rather to enlighten them to the dollar making hypocrisy that is Anet lol

Yeah this needs to be changed IMMEDIATELY… I can easily see someone paying to move a troll account from server to server and burn through keep supplies making troll siege… PLEASE Anet lock them out for the current week’s matchup!

Gaile Gray.6029:

As forum members expressed in this thread, we feel that a player mapping multiple actions to one key — for example mapping an attack and a self-heal type skill to a single keystroke — would have an advantage over a person playing the game as designed, with one keystroke per action.

Our policy is that we cannot approve such uses, but I can say that from what I’m reading, what you have described does not appear to be a matter of concern because you are not “cutting corners” by trying to get a series of actions on a single key.

I hope that is helpful information.

Using macros (which by definition is assigning multiple key strokes to one key) is a violation of the GW2 TOS. You even confirm it here on this thread…

This has been around since launch-

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/new-the-steelseries-guildwars2-gaming-keyboard/

You have TOS that bans for using macros and endorse a product that is specifically designed to use them…

Pricelessly laughable… The dollar making hypocrisy is REAL! lol

With the announcement made today giving the details of how Golem Mastery works, the new eject feature has essentially given zergers two lives…

even when the golem is destroyed… drivers get ejected, stealthed, and invulned for several second. The explosion itself knocks back enemies and stuns them for a duration as well…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/wvw-improvements-in-the-september-2014-feature-pack/

all for 75 points…

this

is

STUPIDLY

OP…

get back into touch with reality ANET…

Let’s not forget the new trap that gets THROWN LIKE A GRENADE with 1200 range exploding in a 450 radius disabling seige for 45 seconds and golems for 20 seconds…

-_- Anet… do you even PLAY your own game?

Storm Mage.8605:

The idea is fairly simple:

To prevent Black Lion merchant tab overload. After a set amount of time (I was thinking initially a year) the Black Lion supply has run out and is pulled from the vendor making room for newer sets. In exchange, the entire set of weapon skins becomes available for 10-20$ worth of gems (account bound on acquire similar to Zenith).

This gives people a chance to pay gold, buy/farm keys and otherwise earn them through current means, but once the time period is up it allows those who started playing much later after a skin set came out to afford them at a reasonable price (instead of half the cost of a precursor or so per skin) while avoiding merchant clutter.

No… because you would ANNIHILATE the tp market…

Sorry if your sense of entitlement can’t be fulfilled… Things that were out in the past that have SIGNIFICANT value should NEVER be released for a cheap gem price… EVER

Full ascended Nomads with WvW infusions, Knight’s trinkets with WvW infusions Spicy herb chicken, potent superior sharpening stone, superior sigil of momentum stacks, wvw stacks and 21 stacks of might…

leviN.4390:

I like how this guy just keeps saying TBT and not knowing their history on why they even moved off their original server to begin with.

I also like how he picks the comments he reply because he has nothing concrete.

Broken Record Player mode. Oh did I mention Broken Record Player? Because I like to mention Broken Record Player. That Broken Record Player is sure as hell got nothing because he keeps repeating the same thing with no factual addition.

Also keep bumping this and show the world how sad you are.

And also, if any other guilds want to move to DR, please contact us in our recruitment thread! We’ll can definitely appreciate additions to our community!

Remember we run server wide events and would love for more to be able to participate!

I believe there’s a Ladies Night on the 23rd of August. Hit us up for info!

Translation… come to our recruitment thread where we will gladly pay part or most of your transfer fee in order to gut the other servers of any decent guilds leaving them with little to no resistance so we can steam roll them…

Look I’m not blaming DR because you are playing within the system that ANET has created… I am saying that I think it is sad you can’t develop from your own server and have to go shopping from others…

GoM win streak was 21 weeks (GW2 Record) without buying a single guild… We developed from within.

Helzy.4036:

Lol, this guy. For the record your perfect GoM that would never “buy” a guild offered to pay TBT to move when we were scouting servers. Sorry about your luck, here’s the thing no one cares what you have to say because your coming off like a complete fool.

Carry on

annnnd yet another lie by a DR… The reality is TBT was shopping themselves around and GoM refused to pay you so you went elsewhere…

Ezrael.6859:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Let’s do the math shall we?

Right now to transfer to a very high pop it costs 225g per person

Let’s say a server has “purchased” 10 guilds

Now let’s say that on average those guilds can each produce a 40 man zerg.

For argument’s sake lets say ONLY those HIGHLY dedicated zergers of that blob got moved and not the whole guild.

That equates to 400 people bought in 3 weeks at 225g per person.

That is NINETY THOUSAND gold spent…

Yes you read that right… 90,000 gold…

Now lets say at the current exchange rate it takes 20 gems to make ONE gold…

That translates to 1.8 MILLION gems…

to buy that much then exchange to gold to send to those guilds would mean you would need 643 of the $35 gem bundles to obtain the amount of gold you would need…

THAT translates to $22,505 US dollars…

Sorry… I just have issues believing the transfer costs were all obtained through Anet… just sayin…

You’ve utterly confused yourself and come up with some hilarious maths.

Look at the calculation you have made to achieve your $22k figure.

You’re saying that they bought gems, to exchange for gold to then exchange again back into gems to do the transfer. (That’s the 225g figure, 225g for 1800 gems).

What?

Why would someone buy gems, to change into gold to change back into gems.

They would just get 1800 gems per person.

If any gems have been bought in-game by guilds it will be with vast guilds funds of gold. Not through your laughable gems -> gold -> gems conversion.

ummmm because you can’t gift gems…

Bubbles.4937:

Does anyone else find it ironic that the complaints are coming from GoM the bandwagon server of season 2. There is nothing worse than a used up bandwagon server.

No guilds transferred to GoM therefore how are we a “bandwagon server” as you call it?

Kimdracula.3450:

Some servers wouldn’t know the meaning of a good community if it hit them in the face. People are leaving your server because they get treated like kitten. THAT is why people are migrating. How can you not get that?

Cool your clamolla, it’s just a game bro. #GetGood

ummmm…… No one has left our server…

attack after attack after attack… congrats DR you will have successfully shut down the thread soon to hide your actions… well played…

BP was a mid Silver server… how is that a crappy server exactly?

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

sooo what you are saying is this wasn’t actually a fashion contest as advertised? If I had known it was supposed to be about cool poses and background graphics I wouldn’t have posted login screens… my suggestion is please stipulate that if you do this again… awesome seeing a ranom contest to support the player community though! GJ!

Sorry, thing is I do these A LOT (a couple a month in fact) and most people do know what it is I’m looking for. When I said, “A good wallpaper” I felt this was just vague enough.

NP Tom! <3

ahh well I will know that for next time… here are some freebies… they are old though… Next time I will jack my graphics up to high and take some with my new looks…

alvinjason.3109:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

MadBomber.3719:

First off let’s get this clear, DR hasn’t bought out any guild. We only offer to help with gold but we dont pay full transfers. Thats why the guilds that ask for us to bid for their services or demand we pay their transfers we turn them down. And only 2 of the guilds that came can field anywhere near 30 nonetheless 40. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are 10 people at most. A couple of them have merged but we didnt get 10 guilds fielding 40 each.

OP, You do realize getting all these guilds doesnt guarantee anything, I wouldnt be surprised if we get a beating in T4. Bronze was pretty much dead before all this happened, which is why this happened. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are from bronze servers who wanted something new and not dead match ups every week and want to see what it’s like at the top. You can also blame your own server for outnumbering and blobbing down every other server for 20 straight weeks. (im assuming you are from that server)

The game is dieing, and unless this new September update brings something major to the table for WvW, you gotta adapt for your server to be successful and stay alive, and that’s exactly what we did.

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change.
In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment.” -Darwin

Confirmation of guild buying by someone from a guild that was bought during the tournament…

Legitimate discussion my poohole lol you keep on spewing accusation and made-up facts. There is no legitimate discussion since all you ever did since yesterday was QQ. ROFL. You’re obviously trying to pass this on as “legit” so the mods won’t lock or delete it. hahahahaha grab a pillow, place your head under it and cry.

again… another attack by someone on DR…

As I said.. your server was yes, used as an example, I NEVER named your server… someone on your server did. To me it does bring up a valid point though in regards to how it is detrimental to the health of EVERY server from high/mid silver and down and THAT is what this thread is about despite post after post of your server mates trying to derail it to the point of even openly attacking me in order to get the thread shut down…

sooo what you are saying is this wasn’t actually a fashion contest as advertised? If I had known it was supposed to be about cool poses and background graphics I wouldn’t have posted login screens… my suggestion is please stipulate that if you do this again… awesome seeing a ranom contest to support the player community though! GJ!

MadBomber.3719:

One of the guilds that left BP left because they were hated on by everyone, just go on BP’s forums you’ll see. That’s BP’s problem that they created. From there it’s a slippery slope, once one big guild leaves the rest start leaving. Same thing happened when we left AR.

So you are now confirming that DR has helped pay for the transfer of the two largest WvW guilds on BP thus stripping and ruining their WvW presence? And you can honestly sit there and say these types of actions are good for the competitive health of WvW as a whole? Gutting every server you come across making 6 or 7 super wvw servers and a graveyard everywhere else?

Skosh.1483:

LOL OP your funny bro. My guild moved over to DR and they didnt help one bit. Quit kittening about ur server getting stomped into the ground. And these 30-50 man zergs each guild runs is a joke lol. 10 guilds x 50 men = 350 people which all the maps put together wouldnt be able to hold. We did que 3/4 bls last reset. so how exactly are each of those guilds bringing 50 people to the field. Quit being a kitten and crying about it.

I find it interesting that the only people defending this practice is the server doing it…

That said… I never said all of you played at once… there are after all 24 hours in the day…

Coverage mate, coverage…

and again… STOP turning this into a matchup thread… you are intentionally doing so to get it shut down and hide the fact of what you are doing…

MadBomber.3719:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

MadBomber.3719:

First off let’s get this clear, DR hasn’t bought out any guild. We only offer to help with gold but we dont pay full transfers. Thats why the guilds that ask for us to bid for their services or demand we pay their transfers we turn them down. And only 2 of the guilds that came can field anywhere near 30 nonetheless 40. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are 10 people at most. A couple of them have merged but we didnt get 10 guilds fielding 40 each.

OP, You do realize getting all these guilds doesnt guarantee anything, I wouldnt be surprised if we get a beating in T4. Bronze was pretty much dead before all this happened, which is why this happened. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are from bronze servers who wanted something new and not dead match ups every week and want to see what it’s like at the top. You can also blame your own server for outnumbering and blobbing down every other server for 20 straight weeks. (im assuming you are from that server)

The game is dieing, and unless this new September update brings something major to the table for WvW, you gotta adapt for your server to be successful and stay alive, and that’s exactly what we did.

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change.
In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment.” -Darwin

Confirmation of guild buying by someone from a guild that was bought during the tournament…

How dumb are you? Did you even read? We dont buy guilds. You’re just salty cause we picked DR over your server. And I’m glad we did. You guys won the tourney so what are you so mad about? And if im not mistaken you guys are paying for a one or two guilds interested in going to your server this coming week. so… hypocrite much?

Actually… something GoM prides itself on is we had that success without ever having to buy a guild and rest assured… we aren’t buying anyone this week… My understanding is DR is now stripping BP of their two biggest WvW guilds…

My two cents…

I had a thief backstab me for 2700… A warrior hundred blade me for 1200… normally I just laugh and walk away…

alvinjason.3109:

LMAO he’s QQing HARD cause they’re losing. Like Jeknar said, he has no proof and is just trying to make our wonderful server look like a big bad evil corporation. He thinks his assumptions are facts even making some BS calculations. I’ll gladly pay 2 coppers for you to transfer out of GoM.

ummmm look at the post by the guy in TBT (one of the guilds that was bought) where he ADMITS you guys are buying out guilds…

alvinjason.3109:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

THIS IS NOT A MATCHUP THREAD…

The WvW community DESERVES a GENUINE response from the development team regarding the current state of competitive health of WvW.

Currently there is yet ANOTHER server making mass guild purchases… this server in question in the last 3 weeks has spent TENS OF THOUSANDS of gold to move in excess of 10 guilds to their server each with 30-50 man zergs.

This has stripped SEVERAL servers of their BEST guilds. If this continues, WvW will end up with 6-7 superservers and EVERY other server will be a graveyard…

How is this even REMOTELY good for the competitive health of WvW in GW2? Since when did a game that was based on free to play become pay to win in WvW?

I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on this topic. PLEASE keep this topic CIVIL and DO NOT turn it into a matchup thread. In particular I would like to hear SOMETHING from a developer regarding this even IF it is just saying “we are looking into it”.

I find it appalling that all a server has to do to win in WvW is whip out a credit card now…

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA OMG THIS GUY AGAIN =))))))) awwwwwwwww poor you blah bluh bluh blah blah

Again if you just want to be a DR troll please go elsewhere as this is a legitimate discussion. If you keep trying to derail the thread you will get reported. Thank you…

MadBomber.3719:

First off let’s get this clear, DR hasn’t bought out any guild. We only offer to help with gold but we dont pay full transfers. Thats why the guilds that ask for us to bid for their services or demand we pay their transfers we turn them down. And only 2 of the guilds that came can field anywhere near 30 nonetheless 40. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are 10 people at most. A couple of them have merged but we didnt get 10 guilds fielding 40 each.

OP, You do realize getting all these guilds doesnt guarantee anything, I wouldnt be surprised if we get a beating in T4. Bronze was pretty much dead before all this happened, which is why this happened. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are from bronze servers who wanted something new and not dead match ups every week and want to see what it’s like at the top. You can also blame your own server for outnumbering and blobbing down every other server for 20 straight weeks. (im assuming you are from that server)

The game is dieing, and unless this new September update brings something major to the table for WvW, you gotta adapt for your server to be successful and stay alive, and that’s exactly what we did.

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change.
In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment.” -Darwin

Confirmation of guild buying by someone from a guild that was bought during the tournament…

In order of appearance-

Solomon Darkfury- Guardian WvW/PVE Fully ascended with Legendaries

Wraithe Hammerfell- Guardian WvW

Azrael The Chosen- Warrior WvW Fully Ascended with Legendaries

Falyn Angel- Necromancer WvW Fully Ascended with Legendaries

Blade of Shadow- Thief WvW

Destiny Nightfire- Elementalist WvW/PVE

Tinker Toyman- Engineer WvW

Seraphim Darkfury- Warrior PVE

Elysium Dreamweaver- Mesmer WvW Fully ascended with Legendary

Rayne Arrowsong- Ranger PVE

All level 80’s obviously…

If you are curious of the skins or dyes feel free to reply quoting me with your question and I will try and get back to you asap!

Taygus.4571:

Vol.7601:

I’m confused..

so if you have one commander tag (blue), you won’t be able to access the other colors unless you purchase them? And you won’t get a refund unless you have purchased more than 4?

the other colours are extras

no one gets access to them unless they buy that specific colour.

The reason for refund at 4+ tags, is because the price is going up, if you’ve only spent 300g (3 tags).. you’re not “losing out”…..

No just the people who have 3 tags are getting screwed because the people who have one get the same benefits for a fraction of the cost…

Jeknar.6184:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

and explain to me how exactly Anet makes money off of the exchange of gold to gems as no gem purchase is taking place…

These gems you buy for gold are gems someone traded for gold. So someone bought these gems at one point and exchanged them for gold…

TOLOLOLOLOLOL…. you ACTUALLY think there is some kind of limitation on digital currency supplied by Anet? lolololol IF that were the case then the exchange rate price wouldn’t have changed from 18s per 100 to its current 10g per 100… The only thing that is for sure is Anet manipulate the market value to maintain the gold sink… limited supply of digital currency… lol

Thrashbarg.9820:

goldenwing.8473:

Solomon, I would agree on principle, that some of those transfers are probably being funded via outside sources. However, there’s enough cash there coming in that it’s still reasonable to assume ANet is getting “their cut”.

Just to address this sub-discussion:

It costs GEMS to transfer, not gold. Every single gem(1) is bought with real money. Third party gold sellers cannot generate gems.

This means even if guilds are using third party gold merchants, then converting that gold to gems, Anet is still making money. Someone bought those gems using real money or they wouldn’t exist to trade for gold in the first place.

Suggesting Anet isn’t profiting from transfers is misleading.

~$22,000 sounds like a lot of money, but I know several people who have spent more on a game from the last MMO I played, and it’s not as popular as GW2. So don’t discount the existence of a few people with way too much money and not much brains. Not saying that’s what is happening, I don’t know, not from any of the servers affected. Just saying 20 grand isn’t as much to some people as it is to most of us.

(1) (well, okay, a few are generated through achievement rewards and such, but nearly all)

Buying server buys X gold from third party site… They send X gold to guild being bought’s GM. Gm distributes to selected players to be converted to gems to cover transfer cost… not sure why that is hard to grasp…

and explain to me how exactly Anet makes money off of the exchange of gold to gems as no gem purchase is taking place…

To be honest, the purpose of this post is to see if a Dev would be able to give some form of logical reasoning as to how this is good for the competitive health of 80% of their servers…

Rimmy.9217:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Our server hasn’t lost anyone… but I do know several servers have been absolutely gutted in the last three weeks. It’s almost to the point I can’t even think of any major WvW guilds that are left from bronze through low/mid silver…

Glad to hear you haven’t lost anyone – what is motivating you to bring up this well worn topic on behalf of the servers who have been ‘completely gutted’ now, though?

If you can’t think of any major WvW guilds left from bronze through silver, assuming that’s not just because you don’t play on/against them all, perhaps it’s an issue we’re all familiar with, one that blazfazzes the shimstock, and have come to accept as the reality of the game?

You propose that people be forced to stay where they no longer want to be, as though chaining their ankles would result in their server’s WvW scene remaining unchanged?

As the saying goes… you never know what it is like until you experience it…

Seeing Servers that were already struggling for population losing their best guilds to me doesn’t foster a competitive environment at all… all it does is show me that in the very near future they may as well just wipe 75% of the servers off the face of the WvW scene as everything from mid silver down will be a graveyard of nothingness…

Let’s do the math shall we?

Right now to transfer to a very high pop it costs 225g per person

Let’s say a server has “purchased” 10 guilds

Now let’s say that on average those guilds can each produce a 40 man zerg.

For argument’s sake lets say ONLY those HIGHLY dedicated zergers of that blob got moved and not the whole guild.

That equates to 400 people bought in 3 weeks at 225g per person.

That is NINETY THOUSAND gold spent…

Yes you read that right… 90,000 gold…

Now lets say at the current exchange rate it takes 20 gems to make ONE gold…

That translates to 1.8 MILLION gems…

to buy that much then exchange to gold to send to those guilds would mean you would need 643 of the $35 gem bundles to obtain the amount of gold you would need…

THAT translates to $22,505 US dollars…

Sorry… I just have issues believing the transfer costs were all obtained through Anet… just sayin…

goldenwing.8473:

The WvW concept and server transfers combined has been a flawed design since day 1.

Transfers are WvW’s largest contribution to the game in terms of money (both in game economy and ANet’s.)

ANet devs have said WvW is not designed to be fair.

Precedent has been set for win trading during Tournament.

Coverage impacts winning.

The current state of the game, and player response (including “buying” guilds to win) is a result of (a) some of the above (b) none of the above © all of the above

Again as I said before given the sheer amounts that are getting spent I am willing to bet it isn’t Anet that is getting the money for these server transfers…

Rimmy.9217:

@OP

As appalling as you might find it, so? Except for the current tier one servers, and maybe tier 2 as well, we’ve all been through this. Your post is about 1.5 years late.

Servers suck for going to other servers and recruiting, and your servermates suck for being buyable.

But really, it’s about what it does to the server that loses the group of people all at once, isn’kitten Some recover, some don’t. Some pull together, some get blown apart so far that no recovery is really possible.

You want a response from ANet about the reality of human nature?

P.S. Using CAPITALS to try to EMPHASIZE your POINTS just makes your post look like an THE END IS NIGH type leaflet ENCOURAGING people to SELL their POSSESSIONS since the APOCALYPSE hates CLUTTER, apparently.

Our server hasn’t lost anyone… but I do know several servers have been absolutely gutted in the last three weeks. It’s almost to the point I can’t even think of any major WvW guilds that are left from bronze through low/mid silver…

Kraag Deadsoul.2789:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

THIS IS NOT A MATCHUP THREAD…

The WvW community DESERVES a GENUINE response from the development team regarding the current state of competitive health of WvW.

Currently there is yet ANOTHER server making mass guild purchases… this server in question in the last 3 weeks has spent TENS OF THOUSANDS of gold to move in excess of 10 guilds to their server each with 30-50 man zergs.

This has stripped SEVERAL servers of their BEST guilds. If this continues, WvW will end up with 6-7 superservers and EVERY other server will be a graveyard…

How is this even REMOTELY good for the competitive health of WvW in GW2? Since when did a game that was based on free to play become pay to win in WvW?

I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on this topic. PLEASE keep this topic CIVIL and DO NOT turn it into a matchup thread. In particular I would like to hear SOMETHING from a developer regarding this even IF it is just saying “we are looking into it”.

I find it appalling that all a server has to do to win in WvW is whip out a credit card now…

I’m in agreement that the current system is broken when viewed through the lens of what makes for engaging competitive play; it’s working exactly as intended when viewed through the lens of making money for ArenaNet, though.

However, you can’t fault a server for “purchasing” guilds. They’re simply working with the hand they’ve been dealt inside this broken system. Furthermore, it’s not like guilds are something you can buy on the gem store. The guild that transfers chooses to do so and shares as much responsibility for jumping ship (if not more so) as the server that is “buying” them.

Regardless, all of the above is but a symptom and not the cause. The cause is ArenaNet’s allowing unrestricted transfers which then unbalance the servers. That cause is not likely to go away any time soon because transfer fees are the primary method that ArenaNet has chosen – rightly or wrongly – to monetize WvW.

To eliminate the cause, it must be replaced with a new system which will maintain income equal to what ArenaNet currently receives from transfer fees. If there is no viable substitute which meets this criteria, then it’s not in ArenaNet’s best financial interests to change the current system; at least not in the short-term (long-term is another matter altogether).

yanniell.1236:

My 2 cents: if Anet is not willing to solve the population unbalance between servers, so just shut down like 16 servers and put the players on the 8 servers that remains. Ah, and put new names on the remain servers, because people will cry about servers been favored, even though it’s a whole new community.

There. Now there’s competitivity (is this a real word?), there’s always fair battles, and WvW is healthy again.

Ultimately, this won’t work; it will just compress the problem. Players would just transfer up to the #1 or #2 server out of the 8.

For what it is worth I wasn’t faulting the server in question or any other server nor was I complaining about a loss…

Also our server has not lost a guild to this yet…

I agree with you the fault lay within the system and I am more than willing to bet that ANET isn’t the company profiting from this given the sheer amount of gold changing hands…

Jeknar.6184:

You can actually prove your claims? If your answer is no, your complaint is invalid…

Other than website/forum advertising for paying to move and multiple players including one of the MAJOR guild’s that moved GM admitting to getting bought… no there is no proof…

Coincidentally I know you are from the server in question… I would ask that you please do not derail this thread or get abusive in order to hide a VERY important issue in WvW…

THIS IS NOT A MATCHUP THREAD…

The WvW community DESERVES a GENUINE response from the development team regarding the current state of competitive health of WvW.

Currently there is yet ANOTHER server making mass guild purchases… this server in question in the last 3 weeks has spent TENS OF THOUSANDS of gold to move in excess of 10 guilds to their server each with 30-50 man zergs.

This has stripped SEVERAL servers of their BEST guilds. If this continues, WvW will end up with 6-7 superservers and EVERY other server will be a graveyard…

How is this even REMOTELY good for the competitive health of WvW in GW2? Since when did a game that was based on free to play become pay to win in WvW?

I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on this topic. PLEASE keep this topic CIVIL and DO NOT turn it into a matchup thread. In particular I would like to hear SOMETHING from a developer regarding this even IF it is just saying “we are looking into it”.

I find it appalling that all a server has to do to win in WvW is whip out a credit card now…

Devona’s Rest has spent TENS OF THOUSANDS of gold buying guilds… This has stripped MULTIPLE servers of some of their top guilds and fosters an uncompetitive environment. Soon all that will be left is 7-8 servers with any WvW population which is ridiculous and something that I feel developers need to address…

btw TBT (a guild that was bought and paid for) troll, I’m not qqing over losing… I’m raising a valid point regarding the overall competitive health of the WvW aspect of GW2… Get a valid point or constructive thought before you run your mouth… or are you too busy extending your credit limit to buy another guild?