Guild Wars 2

Slamz.5376:

Maybe loot drops could be scaled based on YOUR TEAM’S total upgrades in the zone, up to a certain point.

No upgrades anywhere = poor loot drops.
1/3rd of all structures fully upgraded = full loot drops.
Any additional upgrades = no further bonus.

So if you own your third of Eternal and have it all fully upgraded, you get phat lewts. If you own all of Eternal but none of it is upgraded then you get minimal lewts.

(We could base it on how upgraded the thing you are attacking is but that provides a disincentive for the enemy to upgrade things. Not only does it become a target but they basically gave you free gear.)

That’s a really really really bad idea. It encourages world transfers to the point that there wouldn’t even be even matches, anywhere.

PinCushion.7390:

My primary problem is that I don’t yet know when the best times are to drop siege, and where the best spots are to place them. I keep blueprints in my bags, and drop siege when it’s asked for, but I’m really not good at placing or using it.

Any pointers?

Keep an eye on how other players place the siege and you’ll pick up the most common placements. For instance, Catapults behind doors will help destroy rams that are placed too close. Ballista placed so that they’re either A) quickly built to take down a siege or pointed down a hallway tend to be pretty common.

Radiodread.8469:

I am predicting this weekend will not be the best WvW we’ve seen due to the PvE events. Hopefully it will be good, but not likely.

I’m more interested in the rank shake-ups. Eredon Terrace and Henge of Denravi have fallen like bricks. I wouldn’t doubt the next match-up being between ET, SF, NSP.

This is a condition build someone created using P/D. Here is the thread link:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Discussion-Condi-Thief-P-D-or-D-D-in-WvWvW/first#post699929

The build itself can be found here:

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAqY4YlcmKP3ey5E95EB3Djm0m6p4rotTxVlPA;TwAgyCuogx4jwH7MOYkzsWYswOgZAA

Although you are not level 80 and you don’t have the same gear, the premise is the same – use bleeds to outlast your opponent.

Niim.9260:

MaximeP.7524:

What I see now is disconcerting, DB only attack NSP but leaves SF quiet … Would there be an alliance between the 2? Troubling situation … More they benefit from the fact that NSP is now less active to crush …

I really wish you people would find something else to cry about.

Last night I am inside SM, taking advantage of a wall breach to destroy siege and have some fun. While my server, SF, is crying in team chat about DB and NS double teaming us and whatever vast conspiracy they feel they needed to dream up, I am standing on the wall watching a huge fight between NS and DB in the SM courtyard.

+1

There are battles happening between the servers wherever you’re not. There is no grand conspiracy. You might find some cooperation between players of different servers to organize events or to help their buddies through jumping puzzles (and that’s a big ‘might’), but by no means is there some grand alliance or conspiracy to double-team another server. None. And all players of all servers that realize this need to let their less-informed, short-sighted server-mates to realize this as well.

CharliePrince.2071:

Phantom.8130:

CharliePrince.2071:

it doesn’t matter whatsoever

yes, actually, it does.

when 1 thief can stop 50+ people from capping an objective for 10minutes+

50+ people, and not one thought to use AoE, or lay down a bunch of traps? because, yes, that does stop the technique used to prevent caps.

it’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about to suggest nobody was aoeing or trying to bring the thief out of stealth

Bottom Line: i understand your desire to protect your class but it does not change the fact that Thieves right now break the game.

no other way to say it, it’s a legal hack. that’s how ridiculous thieves stealth is right now specially with the permastealthing going on

it’s simply gamebreaking

although fear not, the arenanet devs have all but ignored and turned a blind eye on wuvwuv

you know it, i know it, they will do nothing

so rest easy at night

this is the price we pay for not having a subscription

this is the best service arenanet weill ever give us

because we do not pay them a subscription fee, they simply do not have the employees, desire, people etc to actually fix their game

If it was gamebreaking, everyone would be a thief and there would be no progress in PvP/WvW. It’s not game breaking. Its cheap, much like AWP is in Counter-Strike, but it certainly isn’t game breaking. If you don’t like the way the game is played or the slow fixes, you can always stop playing. No one is stopping you, but to criticize a company, who is trying to appease all sides, for taking too long to find a plausible and non-bias fix is merely ranting on your part.

They fixed the culling issue for sPvP. Now they just need to find a way to fix it for WvW. First it was one Thief skill, then another, and another, and another. Heck, I don’t play any of the glass-cannon, uber stealth thiefs, but I find them to be a challenge for my CB thief. And if 50+ people can’t AoE a thief that is very easy to kill, then I give that thief a standing ovation because I sure as heck can’t do it and I haven’t seen many thieves do it. In fact, one thief thought he could do it to my squad and he was quickly taken down.

So really, it isn’t gamebreaking. Game breaking means that the game cannot be played. Clearly, it can.

Radiodread.8469:

Suralin.3947:

Radiodread.8469:

Did SF get an influx of transfers this week? Your active population is at least twice what you guys put on the feild the last two weeks.

Either way, I think more and more people are seeing that we have a fighting chance this time around.

Speaking of that fighting chance, one would think you’d be a bit more focused on that green target :P

Deja vu. I could have sworn I said this about NSP in the previous 2 matches. ;-)

The only siege I’ve seen “disappear” abruptly are Trebs. We were taking Veloka and we placed a couple catapults to tear down the rear Veloka wall. Once we had the tower, we then put Trebs on the cliff next to it (where the vista is) to bombard Overlook. At the same time we built Arrow Carts and Ballista around Veloka at various points (Cliff, Walls, behind the walls, lord chamber, etc.) We had users on the Trebs until we took the gate down. After some time, the Trebs disappeared (there is no way they could have been attacked), but everything else – Cats, AC, Ballistas, they were all there.

It could also stand for reason that there are various timers on each of the siege types and could also be affected by a “siege per square footage” calculation.

Radiodread.8469:

Did SF get an influx of transfers this week? Your active population is at least twice what you guys put on the feild the last two weeks.

As an SF player, I’m as surprised as you are. I don’t know of any guilds that have transferred as I haven’t seen any large numbers of unfamiliar guild tags, although I was told that we might be getting a Night-shift guild. I am curious as to whether or not guilds are requiring more active participation from its members or if we are truly getting a large number of transfers.

It could also be possible that many people didn’t bother in the last two weeks because of 1) The Halloween Events, and 2) The rematch looked like it was going to be a repeat and people weren’t going to even bother. But I would take that with a grain a salt as I highly doubt that is the case. Either way, I think more and more people are seeing that we have a fighting chance this time around.

Ballistas -
6. Ballistas go through players. They are a Line of Effect weapon and work very well defending chokepoints.
7. Ballistas can fire quickly and deal tremendous damage to siege weapons.

Overall tip:

When placing your siege, make sure you face where you want the siege to be facing. Otherwise, you’ll waste time turning it if its a trebuchet or catapult and that can be detrimental if you were building it to counter another treb or cat.

In your proposed scenario, no single strategy will win, but all strategies will involve fortifying & defending gains to maintain them. The reason being is that the winner of a match is who has the most points at the end of a time frame. Since points are accumulated by how much a side holds, you’re going to see more competent players defending rather than attacking.

So, in the end the side that “wins” is the side that holds Stonemist, even if its for 15 minutes more than another at the end of a week. You can try to draw what-ifs, but assuming that all servers are competent and equally skilled, then Borderlands will end up staying just the same for all servers because the two invading forces will never attack each other except to gain the southern supply camp and their only objectives will be marching up along their respective sides. The Defenders will always be outnumbered in this regard, true, but since they are equally skilled and competent, they should never end up losing their keeps and towers as it takes a force of 1/2 of the Invader forces to defend (this is under the assumption that the Defenders will always have a lot of siege to defend with, as competent players would no doubt have).

So it all comes down to who can take and defend Stonemist the longest. Even if Side A has Stonemist and Side B & C decide to push into Side A’s side of Eternal, Side A has the ability to launch attacks in any direction from Stonemist.

Silentghost.5946:

Pretty impressed with SF, just took everything from us in our borderlands. Was a good fight guys. Wish we had more on right now, but yall are taking everything.

Surprisingly, we’re pretty good about taking things. Not so much on the fortification to try and hold it, though. This is the first matchup that I can recall where the latin-centric guilds and the American guilds are trying to work together. There’s been mixed results.

Teerwik.1650:

Suralin.3947:

The thing about Death Blossom are the 3 Bleeds you tack on and you can only spam it 3 times before needing to steal to do one more.

I currently run a Condition Thief build focused more on spamming DB to get those bleeds up, dodging to drop additional caltrops that cause bleed, and then stealing to get an additional death blossom. Afterwards, I stealth, create distance, and use the shortbow until I can spam more death blossom. It works well in WvW and PvE. For PvE, you can swap out Blinding Power for Roll for Initiative to get more bleed stacks in.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAoY4YlcmSOHcy8E+JFxmCfKU/DfVXQ3jrq1qC;TwAgyCuo8xAjAG7XOfkftCYswOg5CA

So my tip, as a D/D death blossom is to increase condition duration a bit more.

Yikes. That is a really bad build no offense.
You have points wasted in critical strikes, when you are not crit based and don’t have enough prec/crit damage on your gear to make light of it. You also have 5 in DA for the poison on steal. Not only is that single target, when you are focusing the build on an AOE ability, but poison is lackluster anyway (might be worth it if it was 10s of burning).
You can get good init regen from acro and SA trees and quadrupling the survivability of your build. If you want even more cond duration, grab some pizza for the food buff

My roommate has been condition on his thief since the week after headstart
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAoY4YlUmKP3ey5E+5EB3Dji0m6posjtTBXtKA;TwAgyCuo8xAjAG7MOfkzsCYswOg5CA

Copy and paste

AAAHH!!! That’s not my build at all, lol.

Here it is:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYEQNAoYVlUmiP3ey5E+JFB/hk694rj1saKkZL7FA;TYAKYMwIgxWkDGZRA

The thing about Death Blossom are the 3 Bleeds you tack on and you can only spam it 3 times before needing to steal to do one more.

I currently run a Condition Thief build focused more on spamming DB to get those bleeds up, dodging to drop additional caltrops that cause bleed, and then stealing to get an additional death blossom. Afterwards, I stealth, create distance, and use the shortbow until I can spam more death blossom. It works well in WvW and PvE. For PvE, you can swap out Blinding Power for Roll for Initiative to get more bleed stacks in.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAoY4YlcmSOHcy8E+JFxmCfKU/DfVXQ3jrq1qC;TwAgyCuo8xAjAG7XOfkftCYswOg5CA

So my tip, as a D/D death blossom is to increase condition duration a bit more.

“Likewise, you guys will continue to lose until you diagnose the problem with your server. It’s not a numbers problem.”

It’s a numbers problem. We don’t have enough dedicated WvW players to stick it out during our off time, which tends to be half of the day. At night, we start losing territory to both NSP and EB. In the morning, NSP has conquered just about everything because they do have the numbers. In the day, EB has retaken NSP’s conquests and we might, just might have half of our borderland and a third of eternal and making a push for SM during the evening. Then the cycle repeats.

I could care less about the alleged spies because its pretty obvious what paths a server’s zerg will take, I could care less about the classes, and whether or not EB and NSP have better coordination. We’ve already shown that we can fight with the best of the other two servers when the playing field is numerically even. And most of us who WvW often haven’t stopped playing because we’re losing.

Errant Venture.9371:

SF obviously can’t compete with EB or NSP, that’s why they’re constantly sitting in jump puzzles griefing people. Just let them get crushed so they drop down a tier. Putting them against better servers every week does nothing for anyone.

Yes, we’re obviously camping it because we can’t do anything else. /s No, we’re camping it because we can. Just like EB and NSP try to do. We might not have the population that can maintain a presence during our off time like NSP and EB, but we do have a more than capable server.

That being said, when we learned of a player switching from NSP to SF because he was so frustrated that we controlled the jumping puzzle over the weekend, that kinda solidified our commitment. So, please continue to be frustrated. We could use NSP’s off-time players to conquer stuff. ;-)

NSP makes me wonder who their commanders are. In the morning, NSP does a fantastic job taking whole areas of Eternal, but later in the day, when EB finally wakes up to start conquering again, NSP’s sights are set on SF.

For instance, yesterday when SF took Stonemist, NSP kept charging into the castle, ignoring any possible gain in EB territory. And while SF was trying to fend off the Stonemist assaults, they were also trying to fend off EB’s assaults on Pangloss, Ogrewatch, and Veloka. Kudos to EB for realizing that Stonemist isn’t that huge of a gain in the short term, but I couldn’t understand NSP’s mentality. It would have been very beneficial to both SF and NSP if EB lost more points. We at SF know we can’t hold our gains overnight, but that doesn’t stop us from trying to close the gap (and apparently holding the Stonemist through 10 hours worth of assaults).

Niim.9260:

Brutality.3540:

I’m very pleased by SF’s performance yesterday.

I went to the home borderland for awhile and highlighted why I cannot ever be a commander. The overwhelming desire to drive to everyone’s home and strangle them for not paying attention or listening would be too much for me to handle.

Not sure why, but our home borderland seems to have the most clueless, slow moving, chat ignoring people on our server. SF isn’t often a tactical war machine, but the other zones are never nearly as bad as our home borderland . Average response to enemy at the gates within the time it took to take the objective, maybe 5. After awhile I just have to leave them to it.

To command there you need to be very stoic or use drugs liberally, imo.

This is undoubtedly true for some reason. It surprises me because I would suspect that EB, having mokittengets of opportunity would result in a more zombie-like mentality. It’s the opposite. People go where they need to go to. I think its one of the reasons we’re still holding our keep.

Gorefiend.9678:

Suralin, the natural order is to pick on the king of the hill. This morning, that was NSP. If you need proof, the PP are NSP: 540 EB: 90 SF: 65

I never denied that. I knew that NSP was probably being flanked on both sides because they had a majority of the map. I’m SF and I was merely pointing out that it happens.

Eyrwin.8527:

you are probably right but I have been watching it happen all week.

Then you apparently weren’t on this morning. EB and SF were both hitting NSP in Eternal. Before I left for work, NSP was trying to fight both while EB & SF were pretty much avoiding each other, save for the occasional skirmishes over the supply camps around the SF keep. When I see two servers seemingly avoiding each other, I know that it just ends up being temporary.

Well, because no one has mentioned it yet, I would invite you to Sorrow’s Furnace. Our ranking has been pretty volatile and we don’t have queue lines except on Prime Time. We’ll be knocked down another tier (or two) as NSP and EB are thrashing us, but we still fight the good fight.

florence.1674:

I would like to see 0 rewards please. All this would encourage are fair-weathered players hopping to winning servers.

Do you know how often it takes only 1 day to determine a winner?

I agree on not having a physical reward like an exotic item. That just encourages people to move to winning servers. But having non-winning-dependent achievement-like goals would be nice such as “revive x players”, or “plant x siege” or “help build x siege” or even “get x kills”. And then a Hall, maybe in homeland borderlands’ Citadel, with statues that say “Most Kills”, “Most Revives”, “Longest Playing Time”, “Most Money Spent on Upgrades”, etc for that last week and whoever wins those should be able to open up a chest of rewards that gives random loot, but better chances for rares and exotics (maybe even make it just like the puzzle chests in Wv3)

SF really does need to build up its community. It used to be impossible to get into any of the BLs during prime time. Now we’ll be lucky if we can fill up the slots on just one.

Still, this match has been far more enjoyable than last week. Yak’s Bend made it impossible for us to take and hold some of our forts. This week, we’ve been able to fight back in eternal battlegrounds even after losing just about everything to NSP. Maybe after the Halloween event, things will get better for us. Who knows? We have a lot of selfless commanders laying down defenses and upgrading. I wish I had their money, haha.