Also apologizing to the Christmas Dolyak I killed. I’m sorry, I had to. It hurt me more than it hurt you.
Yeah, it’s pretty sad. DR is on a decline and our coverage is getting worse. The new PvE content kind of took us over the edge, and people are losing interest in WvW and doing that.
IoJ has been there before. If it gets really bad for you guys just aim to have fun. Don’t stress out.
Yep!! ;D Killing peoples is always fun, especially those rallybots!
Also apologizing to the Christmas Dolyak I killed. I’m sorry, I had to. It hurt me more than it hurt you.
Yeah, it’s pretty sad. DR is on a decline and our coverage is getting worse. The new PvE content kind of took us over the edge, and people are losing interest in WvW and doing that.
Anyone wanna pull up our last matchup thread with DR? HOW BAD IOJ IS? We’ll be running fraps 24/7, have fun this week DDLG.
I hope you FRAPS’d those two wipes when you ran straight into a kill box with 5 times our numbers. Oh, and 30 minutes after reset when you had two huge zergs at SW camp “Fighting” us, and we took your bay from right under your noses with a 10 man.
I’ll stick to the “IoJ is bad.”
Side note, [Bags] is looking for 5v5 fights.
ALSO, here’s the video of DDLG on last matchup. This is our whole 21 man group vs 40+ IoJ. Enjoy! IoJ is bad!
However I wonder if this will mess up keep attacks where you could just shotgun treb an outer supply depot to burn supply once you get through the outer gate. Maybe it wasn’t fully thought through.
Read the notes. Oh more wxp? Thanks anet. Amazing. Garbage patch with stupid tooltip updates.
BUT THE COLORS ARE BRIGHTER MAN!! BRIGHTER!!!!!!!!!!
On a serious note I think the treb mastery presents interesting tactical opportunities seeing as you can now treb supply depots to burn supply on enemy keeps.
However I wonder if this will mess up keep attacks where you could just shotgun treb an outer supply depot to burn supply once you get through the outer gate. Maybe it wasn’t fully thought through.
I had some friends run what they called an “Immortal Squad.” Party of 5 guardians. No one could kill them.
Yeah, it’s pretty OP. But exactly no damage unless you focus single targets. You don’t get the big spreads you would from other groups compositions but I’ve seen 5 well coordinated guardians take on 30-40 open field and barely get scratched.
careful, [bags] doesnt like it when theyre dumb enough to follow someone into fully upgraded keep guards and 2 of their 4 die to 1 person. they try to troll you by letting you rot in downed state the next time you fight 4v4.
lol
So far your server has placed a cataptult on 3 seperate occasions on the northwest tower vista in the last matchup and the current one in order to counter a catapult placed by Bags to take down the wall. All catapults were extremely out of range of our own. One was placed by a player with the [GWTD] tag. THAT was dumb.
ill make sure they know its treb or nothin, thanks
you make sure your guildies know not to chase people into upped guards
I like how you act superior to others when you’re the one running away.
Not that I care about this argument, but using the map to make other people kill themselves is superior. Getting yourself killed by guards is kinda dumb.
It’s WvW, people die. What’s your point?
As for the trolling while you were downed…. Don’t die then. It sounds like you got outplayed and were angry about it, so you tough guy’d it on the forums when NPC’s did something you couldn’t.
Golf clap
We would be more than happy to fight you with even numbers to reassure you that you are bad. But you already know you’re bad, so you won’t accept this fight offer.
Either way, you lose.
you realize the person you’re talking to did several gvgs against Bags, many f which, if not most, he won. so gg. kittenty boaster.
In our 5v5’s we won a lot more than they did. If you were there you would have seen.
He was there. I only lost 3 of the gvgs we did when it was 5v5 :p OP necros ftw! You guys are really awesome though. I’d love to fight you guys again if you don’t go 3 guards, ele, and mesmer again xD
Two of our core 5 man players main guardians. We didn’t want to play three guards and tried different variations but that was the only way we could counter the condition spam. If it works it works.
Two guard, ele, mesmer and X is our main group, you guys just had so much condi X happened to be another guardian.
lol 2 guardians much better
no offense but reminds me of how PAXA thought they were so awesome because they brought 2-3 guards for 5 mans. and yeah Yarr is guilty of it too at times.
PAXA had good coordination between their guardians and I believe that having that is the base of any group when fighting in an outnumbered situation. Were they completely full of themselves with the most kitteny attitudes? YES. But they were right when it came to guardians being the ones that carry the group.
Guardians are an essential part of a 5 man. You have to run at least one in order for most team sets to be balanced. Guardians provide an array of things that no other class can provide. Example: 100% stability and protection uptime. This helps immensely in fights where we are outnumbered 5:1. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RJPDhtz3d0 Watch our health and boons in this video, stability and protection uptime.)
Instead of QQ’ing that X has more guardians than X why don’t you think of a way to beat it? Our sustain comes from the guardians because the other people in the group are glass. It’s our way of balancing it out, if you don’t like it then too bad. We don’t like bunker condi spam but that’s what everyone and their mother is running at the moment, and you know what? We deal with it.
If it’s OP the whole meta shifts to it. Soon enough you’ll be seeing 5 man guardian groups, so learn how to beat two or three now. :P
careful, [bags] doesnt like it when theyre dumb enough to follow someone into fully upgraded keep guards and 2 of their 4 die to 1 person. they try to troll you by letting you rot in downed state the next time you fight 4v4.
lol
So far your server has placed a cataptult on 3 seperate occasions on the northwest tower vista in the last matchup and the current one in order to counter a catapult placed by Bags to take down the wall. All catapults were extremely out of range of our own. One was placed by a player with the [GWTD] tag. THAT was dumb.
ill make sure they know its treb or nothin, thanks
you make sure your guildies know not to chase people into upped guards
I like how you act superior to others when you’re the one running away.
Not that I care about this argument, but using the map to make other people kill themselves is superior. Getting yourself killed by guards is kinda dumb.
It’s WvW, people die. What’s your point?
As for the trolling while you were downed…. Don’t die then. It sounds like you got outplayed and were angry about it, so you tough guy’d it on the forums when NPC’s did something you couldn’t.
Golf clap
We would be more than happy to fight you with even numbers to reassure you that you are bad. But you already know you’re bad, so you won’t accept this fight offer.
Either way, you lose.
you realize the person you’re talking to did several gvgs against Bags, many f which, if not most, he won. so gg. kittenty boaster.
In our 5v5’s we won a lot more than they did. If you were there you would have seen.
He was there. I only lost 3 of the gvgs we did when it was 5v5 :p OP necros ftw! You guys are really awesome though. I’d love to fight you guys again if you don’t go 3 guards, ele, and mesmer again xD
Two of our core 5 man players main guardians. We didn’t want to play three guards and tried different variations but that was the only way we could counter the condition spam. If it works it works.
Two guard, ele, mesmer and X is our main group, you guys just had so much condi X happened to be another guardian.
careful, [bags] doesnt like it when theyre dumb enough to follow someone into fully upgraded keep guards and 2 of their 4 die to 1 person. they try to troll you by letting you rot in downed state the next time you fight 4v4.
lol
So far your server has placed a cataptult on 3 seperate occasions on the northwest tower vista in the last matchup and the current one in order to counter a catapult placed by Bags to take down the wall. All catapults were extremely out of range of our own. One was placed by a player with the [GWTD] tag. THAT was dumb.
ill make sure they know its treb or nothin, thanks
you make sure your guildies know not to chase people into upped guards
I like how you act superior to others when you’re the one running away.
Not that I care about this argument, but using the map to make other people kill themselves is superior. Getting yourself killed by guards is kinda dumb.
It’s WvW, people die. What’s your point?
As for the trolling while you were downed…. Don’t die then. It sounds like you got outplayed and were angry about it, so you tough guy’d it on the forums when NPC’s did something you couldn’t.
Golf clap
We would be more than happy to fight you with even numbers to reassure you that you are bad. But you already know you’re bad, so you won’t accept this fight offer.
Either way, you lose.
you realize the person you’re talking to did several gvgs against Bags, many f which, if not most, he won. so gg. kittenty boaster.
See that’s where you’re wrong.
In our 5v5’s we won a lot more than they did. If you were there you would have seen.
They were great fights and took a while, was a ton of fun. Yarr has some good players and I have friends in the guild, nothing against them, but when you come to the forums saying “hahaha so and so ran into level 82 guards and are bad” it makes you sound like a kitten.
careful, [bags] doesnt like it when theyre dumb enough to follow someone into fully upgraded keep guards and 2 of their 4 die to 1 person. they try to troll you by letting you rot in downed state the next time you fight 4v4.
lol
So far your server has placed a cataptult on 3 seperate occasions on the northwest tower vista in the last matchup and the current one in order to counter a catapult placed by Bags to take down the wall. All catapults were extremely out of range of our own. One was placed by a player with the [GWTD] tag. THAT was dumb.
ill make sure they know its treb or nothin, thanks
you make sure your guildies know not to chase people into upped guards
I like how you act superior to others when you’re the one running away.
Not that I care about this argument, but using the map to make other people kill themselves is superior. Getting yourself killed by guards is kinda dumb.
It’s WvW, people die. What’s your point?
As for the trolling while you were downed…. Don’t die then. It sounds like you got outplayed and were angry about it, so you tough guy’d it on the forums when NPC’s did something you couldn’t.
Golf clap
We would be more than happy to fight you with even numbers to reassure you that you are bad. But you already know you’re bad, so you won’t accept this fight offer.
Congratulations to DR for your successful golem rush on our garrison this evening. You guys managed to hit us precisely when our sentry was away for a minute, and got the drop on us. BoH’s and WXP all around.
Figured we’d have to build more golems after you guys waypointed your EB zerg into hills last second and got away with that defend. ;D
However, we left the map and came back just now to take it. ;D Take that! ET EB zerg! ;D
Hey just saving you before you look like an idiot to everyone. Scepter Elementalists don’t need line of sight to target things. I targeted the arrow cart and the scepter elementalist in my party dragon’s toothed it.
It is normal game mechanics and not cheating in any way. Search it up, you’re not the first to think so.
OK, my apologies for assuming it was cheating but I have never seen that used before, which is surprising given how effective it is. I guess it’s just another way this game is biased against defense.
All good, I agree with you in a sense that it isn’t fair. But there’s a difference between bad game mechanics and cheating. It really forces you to think about siege placement. There are definitely places where defensive siege can’t be countered but for some reason people put them in obvious, easily countered spots like above or behind the gate.
Used to have a lot of respect for DR fighting fair. Now, not so much. I’m on an AC on an inner corner at the Briar tower on our Borderlands and not only is an elementalist hitting me on the AC but they are hitting me dead on center, perfectly targeted. Cheat much? The group had guild tags Bags, BFF, and DDLG, I think. Nice cheating guys and spare me the 3 monitor excuses. Also classy were the guys ganking me, while I wasn’t moving, after the guards revived me while I was composing this. Yeah, very challenging.
Hey just saving you before you look like an idiot to everyone. Scepter Elementalists don’t need line of sight to cast things. I targeted the arrow cart and the scepter elementalist in my party used Dragon’s Tooth on it, which in turn hit you.
It is normal game mechanics and not cheating in any way. Search it up, you’re not the first to think so.
One of these days, we’re going to get AR/FC/ET. Don’t ask me when. And DR, did you folks bring yer entire BL to our house last night?
Believe it or not but it was one guild split into three groups on your bl.
We were able to get stuff done because your 40
-50 man zergball couldn’t be in three places at once.
I love how DR acts like they don’t run back to cannon range in open field fights.
There isn’t anyone manning either of those cannons. I know thinking is hard for you, but I didn’t know you were blind as well.
l2read
please tell me in what part of that sentence did I say those cannons were manned?
also isn’t the fact that they’re manning siege while sitting comfortably inside that group of lvl 82 guards pathetic enough?
You’re calling your own servers tactics pathetic? Nice one. Stinks to have it turned around on you right?
I’d have to disagree though, the only thing that is pathetic is the fact five of you couldn’t kill three, and the way you play Mesmer, and thief and warrior. Did I miss another one of your classes? Try harder please.
the point I’m trying to bring up is that DR is not some “uber leet never lose 1v1 type server” there have been plenty of times I’ve beaten DR groups 2-3x the size of mine and I’m sure my groups aren’t the only ones that have done it. You just need to take a deep breath and admit that your server isn’t perfect so stop treating it like it is.
also the only duels I recall losing this morning were against that condition ranger and the d/p thief both of which are my warriors weakness.
We are the most uber of the uber leet, not sure what you’re talking about. Also, that thief was D/D and short bow . Jeeze someone’s bad at paying attention.
I love how DR acts like they don’t run back to cannon range in open field fights.
There isn’t anyone manning either of those cannons. I know thinking is hard for you, but I didn’t know you were blind as well.
l2read
please tell me in what part of that sentence did I say those cannons were manned?
also isn’t the fact that they’re manning siege while sitting comfortably inside that group of lvl 82 guards pathetic enough?
You’re calling your own servers tactics pathetic? Nice one. Stinks to have it turned around on you right?
I’d have to disagree though, the only thing that is pathetic is the fact five of you couldn’t kill three, and the way you play Mesmer, and thief and warrior. Did I miss another one of your classes? Try harder please.
Hey Tukmolytes come defend the honor of your guild :<
ah and yet another fine example of bad IoJ open field combat.
I’m sorry we’re not doors.
Now idk about you guys, but I only see 2 IoJ vs 4 of you with an AC. If that makes someone bad to lose in that situation, what does that make you who won with a 2:1 advantage? Not much of an accomplishment IMO.
I’m glad you said that. When you guys build an AC or Ballista open field with 2:1 numbers on us you simply say: “We outplayed you with even numbers, get on our flash building siege level of tactics.”
If you want to win match ups you’re going to have to practice more then just AOE’ing choke points.
Something IoJ can’t even do? It’s the most simple tactic yet you guys still get choked and wiped. Never have I ever seen an IoJ commander pull to a chokepoint. With the amount of siege you drop you’d think you would have a set retreat point with hidden siege, preferably in a choke, and then use that point in a fight where they’re going to lose. Your commanders lack creativity.
Personally, I play for kills not play to win. I could care less about the PPT or winning, and a lot of DR feels the same way. The amount of guilds based around roaming on our server greatly outnumber the guilds that care about winning. I’d say 10 or so roaming guilds, and 3 that care about winning. The three that care about winning are also heavy PvE guilds. We recently lost a guild that fielded 20 or so daily and that was a lot of our EU coverage.
I think we are simply trying to point out that IoJ needs to learn to fight instead of playing Siege Simulator 2.0. Tactics to nullify siege are taking over, we’re only starting to learn and adapt to become better players. What are you getting better at?
D’awww all you DR guys with your cute IOJ tags. ^^ I just want to hug your anger out of you.
Which one do you like the best? My personal favorite is
Wait Go Back To Cannon Range [IOJ]
Mm I think I’m going to have to go wth
Noobz Manning Siege [IoJ]
Or
Main Hand Ballista offhand AC [IoJ]
I understand the use of siege comes from lower tier tactics but when you already outnumber us in fights 2:1 at least have the honor to fight it out instead of building siege.
I think it was TEST guild? Last night they had about 6-10 in our SW camp and they built about 5 ballistas and two arrow carts. Great sieging positions but honestly we were quite confused. You were holding a camp against a whole four DR, and remained there for an hour. How is that fun? We didn’t even have anyone on the map and you still refused to come fight without siege, and you didn’t take anything worth actual points.
You guys realize there is a respawn button? If you get out there and fight you will get better and won’t get embarrassingly crushed open field without siege. Just a tip. Siege only carries you so far. If you want to get better you’ve got to practice without it, and in a higher tier matchup like this you should take advantage of your superior numbers and do it now.
You know, I don’t know why I would expect anything else from you guys.
IoJ has the smallest population out the the 3 servers in this match up. Our superior tactics and capitalizing on our opponents weak points is whats keeping us in 1st!
Population does not translate directly to WvW coverage. Which is the only thing you have over us. Superior tactics? Hah what are you smoking? If running around with a ballista blueprint in your hands is superior tactics then okay, keep thinking that.
I have seen IoJ use superior tactics once, on reset night there was a group of about 20 CORE and 20 or so HARD working very well together. They had obviously great communication, they were just a bit slow to react and it seemed like their leader was confused about how to approach certain situations. Pretty good job though in organizing that. Those groups are going to be very lethal if they keep it up
In all fairness, regardless of what anyone here say’s, every server at some point does one of the following:
1: Hide’s behind towers/siege/etc
2: Bring’s 2-3x the number’s (im looking at you DH lol) to a small fight
3: Does crappy emote’s in a show of glorious victory after 5v1’n someone
4: Abuse’s some type of situation (Guild claimer,LOS,Distraction’s etc)
And in IoJ’s every day situation:
5. Build a ballista or AC in a fight where you outnumber them 3:1.
D’awww all you DR guys with your cute IOJ tags. ^^ I just want to hug your anger out of you.
Which one do you like the best? My personal favorite is
Wait Go Back To Cannon Range [IOJ]
Mm I think I’m going to have to go with
Noobz Manning Siege [IoJ]
Or
Main Hand Ballista offhand AC [IoJ]
I understand the use of siege comes from lower tier tactics but when you already outnumber us in fights 2:1 at least have the honor to fight it out instead of building siege.
I think it was TEST guild? Last night they had about 6-10 in our SW camp and they built about 5 ballistas and two arrow carts. Great sieging positions but honestly we were quite confused. You were holding a camp against a whole four DR, and remained there for an hour. How is that fun? We didn’t even have anyone on the map and you still refused to come fight without siege, and you didn’t take anything worth actual points.
You guys realize there is a respawn button? If you get out there and fight you will get better and won’t get embarrassingly crushed open field without siege. Just a tip. Siege only carries you so far. If you want to get better you’ve got to practice without it, and in a higher tier matchup like this you should take advantage of your superior numbers and do it now.
You know, I don’t know why I would expect anything else from you guys.
I was on my mesmer. He was a mesmer. Maybe it’s the downed skill? But from what I remember it says Phantasmal Rogue hits you for XXX damage. Not Smoke bomb. The issue is he wasn’t downed when it hit me.
For some odd reason four major wvw guilds all ended up doing guild missions at the same time yesterday. Sure enough we came back to find our entire borderlands green.
Thank you on behalf of DDLG we had a lot of fun taking it back, too bad it didn’t take long. Anyway, thanks for the loot bags.
[EDGE] Guild from DR is hosting fight club at the windmill south of South Supply camp in DR borderlands. Starts at Daily reset on Thursday. See thread for details.
[DDLG] Is looking for 15+vs 15+ GvG’s
PM ME ON FORUMS to set it up.
There’s a fun aspect of open field combat with no siege to weigh down a side. It wouldn’t bother people so much if you didn’t do it every time. However every single fight zerg on zerg you guys flash build siege like clockwork, first thing you do. It just gets old after a while, and when our only move is to change positions away from your siege it is frustrating. Nobody likes staring at each other for 15 minutes awaiting a fight that takes 30 seconds.
There aren’t any roaming grsoups interested in even fights, and when we go to your BL looking for enemies every single player is balled up tight on the commander, and you choose to waypoint instead of fight. I understand that is the tactic the game mechanics suggest and we even use them sometimes. It’s just the total dislike of open field combat that IoJ has, it brings boring fights and a boring matchup.
I understand it’s a PPT game, but surely we can’t be the only ones who like large scale open field combat.
You talk like DR was in IoJ BL looking for an open field fight. Let’s be honest: DR was there to flip objectives for PPT, so complaining about the lack of an open field fight rings very hollow. If IoJ went there to stop you, they’re in a much better position than you to say they were looking for a fight (because they knew where DR was), even though they honestly were probably there for PPT too.
If both sides felt they had an advantage fighting in the open field, then the fight would’ve happened. But if one side doesn’t, then it doesn’t happen. So in that context, your criticism is basically that they didn’t fight you when they think they’re at a disadvantage. To which, the response of “why the kitten would I do that?” was appropriate.
If you really think that it would have been a fair fight and IoJ didn’t, then you should take that as a compliment and move on.
I haven’t been trying for PPT at all in IoJ BL because we haven’t cared about PPT all week. When I went there this week I was roaming for small fights with [Bags] guild.
The first part of my post about IoJ hating open field fights refers to everywhere in WvW, not just your map. On all the maps you use the same tactics. Man siege until you have at least twice their numbers, then finally push out. It just brings a boring matchup so that’s why DR doesn’t like IoJ, Because the matchup is boring. We proved we could beat IoJ last time around, however it took immense work from DDLG holding down your borderlands, and to us that just isn’t much fun. We like the fights, we play for the fights. It’s an aspect of WvW that we enjoy, and when PvDooring keeps gets boring we’d rather have open field fights. It seems IoJ is strictly PPT oriented, and won’t develop better individual skill if they keep that up.
To the obon mesmer, you’re a tough fight, I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s noticed IoJ’s “Our zerg is greater than your zerg” tactics.
Siege (including ACs and Ballis) is a mechanic of WvW. If you don’t like it, go to sPvP. My goal isn’t to have a glorious charge with nothing but an even or outnumbered zerg against my enemies. My goal is to win / make others lose. So, why would I stop using siege on you all when it kills you & caps your assets more efficiently than banging my face against you? Isn’t that also something you complain about (PvDooring)? Don’t act like you all don’t take advantage of WvW mechanics in an effort of “fairness”.
This.
Basically, half of the criticisms in these threads can be boiled down to something like this:
Q: “Why don’t you fight in a way more advantageous to me?”
Correct answer: “Lol. No.”
There’s a fun aspect of open field combat with no siege to weigh down a side. It wouldn’t bother people so much if you didn’t do it every time. However every single fight zerg on zerg you guys flash build siege like clockwork, first thing you do. It just gets old after a while, and when our only move is to change positions away from your siege it is frustrating. Nobody likes staring at each other for 15 minutes awaiting a fight that takes 30 seconds.
There aren’t any roaming groups interested in even fights, and when we go to your BL looking for enemies every single player is balled up tight on the commander, and you choose to waypoint instead of fight. I understand that is the tactic the game mechanics suggest and we even use them sometimes. It’s just the total dislike of open field combat that IoJ has, it brings boring fights and a boring matchup.
I understand it’s a PPT game, but surely we can’t be the only ones who like large scale open field combat.
This is fun for you!? Come on it’s been like 25 minutes now and you all are just sitting there. 1 treb and a foritified wall? Surely there’s something better to do with that time.
lol cmon fluffy, ive killed you countless times in the middle of your zergs and spent the time to laugh at your body. your a signet of malice shortbow thief, about as easy to kill as an upscaled ranger.. Remember what happened when you called your 2 guildies into the camp? yeah they got wrecked 1v2.
As loosin said we had 21 people in ts, against a minimum of your 60, so the fact that you guys wiped as much as you did and cowarded as much as you did is pathetic. Eventually we got tired of waiting for your giant zerg to push so we said kitten it and charged in against 3x our numbers.
But according to you we had even numbers and you wiped us, so can we interest you in an even number gvg? no? didnt think so.
I don’t think my guild can GvG you guys considering my guild has maybe 5 WvW people? Also I did do a GvG against DDLG’s baby guild Bags. 3v3’s I think and it was pretty close. Also signet of malice works with my build since I’m traited to have it on a 12 sec CD, get 2 initiative from it, 8 stacks of might (5 from trait 3 from altruism rune set), and fury for 5 secs. Anyways I do remember specifically telling them not to come to me since I was just talking to your buddies lol. Also it was a lvl 80 an upscale vs you + 5 vet guards.
Again this is the reason our server has issues with alot of your members, you can’t admit to wiping even numbers so instead you result to saying “you outmanned us 3:1” it’s just not true.
Bags would be more than happy to do some 5v5’s or less before the matchup end. PM me on the forums to set it up if you’re interested.
Again this is the reason our server has issues with alot of your members, you can’t admit to wiping even numbers so instead you result to saying “you outmanned us 3:1” it’s just not true.
At the same time this is the issue we have with your server. You can’t admit to losing a fight when you greatly outnumber us. You guys say it’s even EVERY single time. When you lose, it’s always “okay good fight you outplayed with EVEN numbers.”
Having exactly even numbers in fights is a whole different ball game. The chances of us having EXACTLY EVEN numbers is very improbable anyway. Someone is going to outnumber the other person in every fight.
the thing is I see lots of DR always saying “you greatly outnumber us” while posting screenshots without the outnumbered buff. I do understand you can still be outnumbered without the buff but I’m not buying this 3:1 BS without it. And yes it’s true that it’s nearly impossible to have an equal number fight but either way give or take 5 people it’s not going to make much of a difference which is why I’m calling it even numbers.
Believe it or not your server is very bad at estimating zerg size hence the reason we have to call you guys out on it so often Not an insult just a fact. Anyways, there were TONS of great fights tonight and for that I thank you. Hopefully we can do this again tomorrow in let’s say…GoM’s BL??
As you will see in the video we have the outnumbered buff in the beginning when we’re fighting the first zerg. Someone will post it when it’s uploaded.
Again this is the reason our server has issues with alot of your members, you can’t admit to wiping even numbers so instead you result to saying “you outmanned us 3:1” it’s just not true.
At the same time this is the issue we have with your server. You can’t admit to losing a fight when you greatly outnumber us. You guys say it’s even EVERY single time. When you lose, it’s always “okay good fight you outplayed with EVEN numbers.”
Having exactly even numbers in fights is a whole different ball game. The chances of us having EXACTLY EVEN numbers is very improbable anyway. Someone is going to outnumber the other person in every fight.
We had 21 DDLG in TS and I know during one push alone at the SE tower I got 20 stacks. And that was only half of you guys the other 20-25 organized people had pushed around through the tunnel while we wiped the pugs.
Regardless when you caught us in open field we were wiped, at least at the chokes we could hold our own.
Thanks CORE group running the Zerg in IoJ bl. Really made me think with the tactics. DDLG enjoys fights like that so keep it up, great pug organization on your end.
Borderland different color? Lets keep everyone on EB and lose massive ppt. GoM Logic is impeccable.
Could say the same for DR… You guys are giving us a win. Rather have 1 moment over a whole week -.-
but seriously…. if you guys fight for PPT like Ioj does this might have been a more of an interesting match up.
But PPT doesn’t give me loot bags. What If i’m just grinding for my 250k kills?
How to PvP like IoJ.
When zerging: Have arrow cart blueprint in hands and ready to deploy at all times.
1v1 fight: Turn around, head to nearest keep and man cannon.
2v1 fight: Have one person run to nearest keep and man cannon. Have second player Stand in cannon range until it is safe.
3+v1 fight: Congratulations, you now have enough supply to flash build an arrow cart. Stay in arrow cart range until it is safe.
I understand it’s all about the PPT but come on, I’ve never seen a server run so much from fights.
Are we talking about IoJ or DDLG? It’s clear in the video you guys posted that you are using canons. Talk about irony eh.
BTW i got too may AC blueprint to scatter so……
IoJ. Because we’re smart enough to not stand in cannon range during an open field fight.
Aaaaaand here’s some DDLG footage of us sucking in EB!! Enjoy.
DR – [DDLG] is not what they used to be 2-3 weeks ago when we faced them. You guys looks scattered this time and twice we rolled over your zerg. I don’t know if you guys was unorganized or IoJ got the counter for you.
GoM – Common guys! Do not WP or alt-tab godkitten it! Lets fight head on. I need to use like 3 speed buffs to chase your zerg. You got the numbers, fight like a man.
yeah bro you diffidently wiped us. Guildie managed to capture this video. Dont worry we wiped that same zerg again 5 minutes later without the cannons.
Oh yeah nice timing. Tell your guildies congrats he managed to cut the next 4x we wiped DDLG.
Borderland different color? Lets keep everyone on EB and lose massive ppt. GoM Logic is impeccable.
Could say the same for DR… You guys are giving us a win. Rather have 1 moment over a whole week -.-
but seriously…. if you guys fight for PPT like Ioj does this might have been a more of an interesting match up.
But PPT doesn’t give me loot bags. What If i’m just grinding for my 250k kills?
How to PvP like IoJ.
When zerging: Have arrow cart blueprint in hands and ready to deploy at all times.
1v1 fight: Turn around, head to nearest keep and man cannon.
2v1 fight: Have one person run to nearest keep and man cannon. Have second player Stand in cannon range until it is safe.
3+v1 fight: Congratulations, you now have enough supply to flash build an arrow cart. Stay in arrow cart range until it is safe.
I understand it’s all about the PPT but come on, I’ve never seen a server run so much from fights.
ARM made a remark about DR being bad, so by myself I went and took all of GoM borderlands to show him how bad he is, and how über 1337 and pro I am.
Better watch out ARM, or I’ll do this every day and send you to third.
On a serious note, less than 15 DR did that to your map…. That’s the downside to zerging as hard as you do. When literally every single person on the server is in the same place, that is what happens.
Well eternal is fun GoM has more alpha golems than DR has people currently. GoM hits IOJ takes half there side then takes DR’s entire side. IOJ finally recaps there side and goes and hits DR keeps.
Its really lame that GOM needs such a large zerg to just capture an un-upgraded overlook keep from DR, and by using omega golems no less. Just goes to show that GOM is still a zerg fighting server.
Seriously, why the heck are we matched up against GOM??? We do not have the numbers of zergings to compeat. And the fact that siege (and golems) are now buyable on the trading post doesn’t help either, as its even EASIER to make golem rushes. This is a match-up pairing that should have never happened.
Excuses don’t win fights. You should teach your server that.
We weren’t trying to win. We gave you that keep. In exchange you gave us hundreds of loot baggies. Thanks!! Gettin them kite fortunes son!
Now sit down bad elementalist or we will unleash the beast and deep throat your borderlands into third place.
It really forces you to think about siege placement. There are definitely places where defensive siege can’t be countered but for some reason people put them in obvious, easily countered spots like above or behind the gate.
