Guild Wars 2

Hmm Blacktide were the All Blacks ! you are the English for me ! huhu

Thank’s, Offski. To be honest, we speak sometimes about IRON in Grand Cross, and we find your dedication so cool, even when Desolation was not good at all you stayed here. You are not a server jumpers, you try to build things yourself, like us. Except few IRON haters, we really like you.

@Lani: you said it all. Na guild. The main problem with this, it’s that using fresh players by day fighting tired night players playing just with high morale. Its not balanced at all.

For example, Ryuji of Confrérie de Dun Dagda [CDD], Grand Cross guild, leaded troops for 11 hours today. Just because he do not want to surrender. Just because hes angry with the Viz bashing. You give him energy everytime you kitten on us.

Some really should learn humility and respect. In sport, videogames (like esport) or other competitive things, when the team or player is on top, i have nothing but respect and admiration. Ex : in rugby the All Blacks. Even if its France adversary, i respect them for their skill.

I thinked the same for (All)Blacktide and tried to find strategy to beat them a lot, but never spit on them. It’s called, again, the Respect. Be a man, not a kid. Respect your enemy

@tagnut i made some research, please verify what you say before.

@tagnut: Blacktide was a great server, nothing more to say. But sorry you do not remember well for SFR : it was balanced. it was something like 4/3, they won, we won, they won, we won, etc. And sometimes, it wasnt done until friday !

@Truebanana: well, if you still believe it’s only this, it’s good for us

6 months after, there is still people believing we have canadian players or guilds, and still do not understand our commanders/players sometimes play 10h+ hours because they do not want to surrender

SFR in D1. Now shut your hate down. This was my last forum move, disgusting

Grok : at this moment, there was 2 raidleaders ingame : one for it, one against it. And i received a lot of messages from SFR nice players talking about the focus. A VoTF sent me tonight too, to talk about the future deso/SFR double focus.

The only thing i said in my post is: we won’t do nothing and watch you kill us.

Man think a little… Grand Cross is very big, but it’s not the whole server…

and read my other posts, we had to discuss, to vote etc. Do some empathy and imagine being in my role a little, kittening hard. Sometimes i feel like a politician, in a GAME?

Now i have to go eat and take a break, try to think a little bit more of the situation and stop putting hate in everything. Hate don’t build, like Zepolak said. Doing things with heart do.

“Hey guys, there is Jomg on the official forum, he think i can control a whole server while i’m at work”

“lol”

Hmm nop Lani, i never use fake or kitten like this:

Jomg: you’re filled with hate, starting to disgust me

graverr: timing was hard, we will see

Think what you want man, but let me describe what happened :

1) big discuss ingame, GC forum
2) Oxi (WL raidleader) make a TS meeting to talk about it
3) 1h30 of talking about it
4) the vote on GC forum
5) my post here

i’m not a fakin politician, i’m a gamer. I have nothing to win, no real money, no fame. Just fun. It’s your right to hate us as you want, we are used to. But when i tell you the truth, try to listen to me

I don’t play a role but we needed 1h30 to discuss about it, 20 min to vote. Really.

You know me a little Wothan, and you know i think it. But for more details: Vizunah WvW guilds need, love challenge, and can’t wait for very hard battles, even if we had to be focused. A GC Guild lost members because lack of challenge and had almost stopped the game.

So by our point of view, we know SFR has to come this week or the other. So let them come now and let us face this.

Hello,

after a big discuss and a vote, 90% of Grand Cross guilds decided to

NOT FOCUS DESOLATION, AND LET SFR COME IN T1

Effective: now

Why : because we want to stay the most neutral possible, because we have sense of justice, because we want to do this epic fight, even if they decide to focus us.

What will we do: ask Vizunah to stay the most neutral possible and prepare for war.
Make action for this ingame.

For Elonian’s friends: we will never do lame things to you, we will just play as usual. We always respected you and your neutrality. We speak about you a lot in GC.

If it must be our Last Stand, we will do it with honor !

Isesia, i’m not here to troll, so stay serious. It’s a server scale, thousand of people, do you think it’s easy? try to do it on your serv

Try to build a community like this, and after, maybe, you should do sarcasm. It’s a big decision to take, it’s human to talk about it…

REAL, please read what i wrote :

“Sorry but Grand Cross didn’t take any decision, there is even a big discuss (drama) between lot of Vizunians to know what to do”

There is people for, people against. Big discuss now on Vizunah. And i didn’t make any order

Sorry but Grand Cross didn’t take any decision, there is even a big discuss (drama) between lot of Vizunians to know what to do

How can you speak about fear, after all Vizunah had to face, to fight, and all thoses battles we never gave up? why can’t you respect all we did, after 6 month? what do we have to prove again?

what do you think Deso and SFR with all new guilds from piken will do if they are both in T1?

Whatever happen, we will do like every Vizunian do since many months: We will stand, and fight

Do you really think we will let the two servers focus us without doing nothing? after i received that private message from probably a SFR Player (it’s a part) :

“hey (you seem like the guy to talk to from VIZ) Your probally aware of SFR (RG/Sacrx’s) plan but i thought i would give you information regardless just incase its useful to you…

Firstly they want to fight Desolation so bad… they trying their hardest to replace elona
Secondly they really want Top spot… after that they really want to Kick Viz Square out of tier 1… maybe for the kitten i dont know
I know Viz square as had previous threats/challenges in the past and overcome them
This one is going to be even more… as you can see what they doing to Jade Sea (which aint no mugs)
They pulled guilds with them when they left piken… and still trying to take even more russians with them from piken (but those russians staying aslong as fights are good in their timezone on piken)
You know RG… already causing bad blood on SFR because their elitism doesnt do good for community and are prone server hoppers."

“Gl in your matchup and stopping blacktide 3.0
They will probally try even more poloticing and recruiting more coverage where they can just to beat you guys”

We are tired of being french bashed, and reading all this hate and crazy things

Hello everyone.

Just here to give some informations, it’s about time

first, you have to know that Vizunah lost few good old commanders, for some reasons. But heh, new commanders came after, and they really want to do their best for the serv now.

We had also a big internal crisis like you saw with this link http://www.grandcross.fr/coup-de-gueule/. So i made a big TS meeting with almost 400 people to talk, to solve problems, to get back in fight with a strong morale. Just after, we got back to score and finished first.

@Sacrx : i saw your post before the delete/edit. You know, you can laugh at my RP posts and videos like you want, no problem. But,

Never forget this “spirit”, the community we made and the hand given to every player since day one (“pug”) instead okitten on their face made the difference between Vizunah and other servers.

Never forget we did everything we can to hold our position, to keep people strong even with the french bashing we had to read everytime

Never forget we stayed on our server instead of jumping and jumping everywhere

Never forget we respect you anyway

I know you see me like just a RP leader boy, that’s okay. It’s fine. But you don’t know my experience, the team i were, and what sort of PvP i did in the past. And i’m okay with it. I’m a lot, lot near to you than what you think.

Again, even if i don’t like the way you trash us, i respect what you did with RG, the reputation of this guild.

See you on the battlefield everyone. Make war, not trash

I still do not understand the “viz behind wall” thing. Yesterday afternoon, i took the lead of SFR map and we made epic battles versus VcY guild, on sunny hill and on the open field near. And i’m sure others commanders/leads do it a lot too, when they can. It’s just that sometimes you have to defend castles, sometimes you fight outdoor, sometimes you turtle, sometimes you split. Depend !

and if you put all pressure on Vizunians, it seems logic that they will defend and protect in a tower.

This is post i would like to see more, from all parts, all enemys. Let us use this great post to forget a little all trolling sh**. We have the power to build a better community in our hands.

Thank you, mister Jackie.

ok man, damage control, if you want. Jeuxonline, 10+ years of trolling since Daoc

> a guy suggest ddosing as a joke on a forum known for mass trolling
> your server shows suggest ddosing

boy, that escalated quickly

Aneu. You quoted the only french trolling forum and took it serious. Oh god.

And you took serious the DDoS thing? holy kitten, that’s why sometimes i hate jeuxonline. The main sport on this forum is trolling, taking it serious will do a kittenstorm of laugh for french when they will see your post :x

Hey Fanfa

yes, i just wanted to clarify some things. See you ingame

wasted, do you really read what i say ?

“sneaky russian forged devious alliance” if you read slowly my words, i say : “obviously you are not in alliance. But it’s a natural focus for you”. And now, read other post that your mates and me wrote about tri-faction, etc.

you can find the post on goha.ru WvW section, somewhere here : http://forums.goha.ru/showthread_0_0_p22001958#post22001958 (edit : didnt see the images first… haha crazy) don’t remember the exactly post but i linked it on SFR community chat. The chat where some very nice SFR players confirmed me the natural focus i talk about

edit : http://forums.goha.ru/showpost_0_0_21995557_7939

http://imageshack.us/a/img715/4285/gw060z.jpg

Ok now i repeat, i think it’s the game rules i have no problem with this at all. Just, don’t tell me it’s not true. Again there is no alliance : just some situationnal focus, sometimes a lot, sometimes not at all.

:) yes man, like i said, tri-faction is made for it. Nothing wrong. Only things that’s sux :

haters, big trolls, hacks, exploits ! the other thing are legit and fine. We shouldn’t see any whine about classic RvR features. Or heh, get back to wow RBG or Arenas ! brrr, no thank’s for me

Rhino, of course we make them trying. For 3 months +, our Vizunians fought others servers very well, under good commanders leading. Sometimes our Vizu bus even wiped big guilds. But like username say, we can’t do it at the moment : you put us in a defensive mode =)

Argadem, Angelyne is not a Grand Cross alliance officer. The officers are only the guild masters and some officers, but not him.

For the alliance VS/AS, this existed only one day, and i explained here why with an Asterix picture :

http://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?t=1200237

No man, when i talk about the difference about pick-up and guilds, it’s about the character optimization, the movement, things like this. Everything is based on point of view btw : you should see the work everyone put on the map : dolyak escort, commanders strategy, split, roaming, etc. Definitly, the win are not based only on nightcapping. There is a lot more things you cannot see, like i cannot see yours.

I think people forget that old great battles versus Shiverpeak, Arbor, Blacktide etc made us loose good commanders by burnout, and some old players (and that’s why some Vizunian whine when they talk about different timezone advantage to have fresh people).

We have to learn newcomers how to do, and we cannot ask them to wipe versus you again and again everytime. That cannot work.

For the open field problem, you should really check where are the big guilds i told you ! and hunt them. I’m sure they will be open to fight.

Again, there IS a big organization (that i cannot explain, it would be idiot) and i think nightcapping is not a major flaw : some people work at night, some are nolife, some are crazy and play non stop. You cannot stop them playing when you sleep, that’s the real RvR, like daoc mate.

Anyway of course we are not perfect and we must improve. Thats why when a mate brag on forum, i disagree.

Friends,

for the “hide behind walls” thing i read too much since 1 month, you have to understand that the VS guilds have not big numbers like some enemy army. Except WL, CDD, FM MORT wich have numbers, others guilds have 15-20 active members in the same time.

That mean when you see a big zerg, there is a big chance it’s a zerg of Vizunians, the pick-up if you prefer. How do you want the pick-up to face organized angry guild like VoTF or ZDS or IRON for exemple? Of course they do it when they can, but a clever commander can’t make them wipe again and again. So, he use the legit defense of this game, the castle.

When i read this forum, there is some obvious things i always want to repeat :

1) people forget pick-up are less organized, even in bus. They do what they can, with their own knowledge, stuff, level, gameplay, and experience. Sometimes they are godly, sometimes they are beginners, sometimes they are medium. But every of them count.
2) the VS trolls are not the whole server and not represent every single people. Like the trolls on your serv
3) we want to be right : we ban spies, report hackers, cheaters. But you always speak like if we were a group or a guild, but we can’t control everything : it’s a whole server
4) by trolling and flaming (both sides) you don’t help your server, it’s the contrary : you just make hate growing
5) the old alliance with Arbor (i know it well, i launched it) existed one day, destroyed not by strategy but by old dark age of camelot hate
6) obviously you are not in alliance. But it’s a natural focus for you. Some SFR players told me it, and i saw it on goha.ru, a big russian players forum

I hope one day every people will be manner and fair-play and stop hate each other. Utopy? hmm maybe. But sometimes utopy happens when you believe in it.

Hello

I think Kraken is right. For me, in a tri-faction RvR game it’s logical to do this : you focus the most dangerous server. I think, behind the flame and hate, our enemy respect the passion, the never ending will Vizunah put in this game. That’s why i’m not mad at all, thats why my Vizunian brothers shouldnt be angry. You know why?

because it’s an Honor for us.

With respect to SFR and Desolation

STOP. Stop with the Cheesepanda/night cap story.

Even if the cheespanda problem is true, it affect everyone on Vizu, and it doesnt represent all the server. You can NOT spit on the bravery, the never ending fanaticism of Vizunians because of this.

Don’t speak about nightcap when we have to fight PRX army. I was here this night, with WL/FM and we had huge fights.

You wanna know why there is so much people connected right now? because we made a fakin global calling. We made a warcall, i runned home to take the lead, Bagoras and other very good leaders played for 15+ hours. For the Seafarer shoutbox, i went on it just to say hello and we never used it to spy. Dont listen to the VSMAN troll who was here.

I respect you all, give us the respect we deserve.

I told you, our old enemys told you, everyone told you Vizunah never surrender. You knew it. Now, face it.

For the last time, we have NO Canadians it’s our brave night forces, our “never retreat” same VS players from the beginning. One day, you will have to realize the day people you fight in primetime is the same fanatic Vizunian’s at night.

Our spirit is like steel, our server soul really exist, and we will NEVER SURRENDER !

We passed through the cold mountain of Shiverpeak, we faced the ruin and the Desolation, we stopped the Elona’s machine, we have had to fight our brothers from Arborea, we didn’t give up when Blacktide arrived and now it’s your turn to suffer from VIZUNAH WRATH!

This, is where we hold you ! This is where we fight ! This is where YOU die !

With respect,

Troma, Grand Crusader of Grand Cross, main alliance of Vizunah server.

Hello, yes Same you are right. On Vizunah, with the Grand Cross alliance and the Vizunians, we do everything possible to hold our positions. I think nobody on other servers realize the daily work we put on Vizunah. We have a real soul, what i call the Vizunah Spirit. We NEVER give up, even when the situation is terrible.

This is what we are fighting for.

Hey friends, just to be clear there is 2 Troma :

- one on Vizunah, lead of the main alliance (Grand Cross) : me
- other on Arborea, the author of the previous post, Gm of Never Hide

have a good day !

Oh please. Banana, be honest please, it’s not our gameplay, and with all fight we had, you can’t be serious. Myself i always divide the bus in 2 or 3 or 4 groups to multitask. Maybe you fought on a map with a single bus, but even GC guilds split bus i think…

First time i see someone telling we play bunker style :[

Hello, because of this :

1) a Xaoc explained it on the guild wars 2 WvW forum (here)
2) a RG friend told me it
3) at night, a lot of battle reports of Vizunian’s confirm this

But if it’s wrong, i would like to know your official position to tell Grand Cross (the alliance on Vizunah)

Soulcheg.5048:

Where’s Troma, btw?

Hello old friend =)

i’m still here, but i have leaved War Legend and i have so much work with Grand Cross and trying to keep Vizunah in division 1 now i’m the “Grand Crusader” of GC and i work for Vizunian’s people.

i have to say, when i saw NuG, GF, NoX and all russian of Disorder League on Blacktide i was really happy, because you are still good enemys, and we had good contact on your forum.

But you have to know Vizunah had to do a lot of sacrifices, and this message is for everyone trashtalking and laughing at us. We had to fight Shiverpeaks old school for 1 month, we had to wake up at night to counter Desolation, we had to defend versus Elona, we had epic fights versus Arborstone, we had hard fight versus Blacktide and RG, we had to face the insult and xenophobia of RUINS….

and now, what is the situation? here is the truth :

1) we lost War Legend [WL] because they take a break, and they were able to tank a map and to kill a lot of guilds alone. (I’m not talking about the WL version you met RG, there were already a lot of members in pause/stopped and they suxed at this fight)

2) we lost a lot of guilds because of old Vizunah queue

3) irl sacrifices made us lost a lot of good commanders, they don’t activate their book anymore because they are tired

4) Xaoc and other BT guilds decided they want AS/SFR now, so they now focus us. Okay, that’s fine, but it’s again an hard thing for our moral.

5) we had almost no migration of alliance/guilds on Vizu since the beginning (except some karma farming lamers) of course we had little groups or single people coming btw.

I can say Arborstone and Blacktide are the best enemys for us, but don’t look at Vizunah like if we were at the top of our power atm. We are like very tired French Spartans, and we will fight to the last breath.

With Respect,

Troma

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/60511-bacon-bacon-desolation-server-is-recruiting/ !

Oh yeah, i have to tell you something : i know well the Russian on Blacktide. They are the Disorder League (NuGs, GreenFire, Zds, etc) and they are great fighters. We fought them a lot of weeks, because they were Far Shiverpeaks main force. Some fights versus them gave me goosebumps.

but when i see some RUIN members spit on us, i have no respect for this. I hate this. French bashing, free taunt and all this **** are just disgusting.

But on Desolation, i like IRON too. And one day, we had our hardest fight versus Bacon Bacon (Yum) are they still on Deso?

KiNgPiN i’m laughing with you at the video now, kitten CaSu idiots hahaha. Oh wow.

Dawg : yes, and the declaration of war of RUIN started because of them. Do you realize euro ladder is now **** because of this troll? it’s the biggest troll in the MMO history i think. I want to beat rui, but in the same time it make me laugh. Idiots !

It’s really simple : when i started to build Grand Cross, i sent my friend “rui”, guildmaster of little CaSu guild. Like the name say, they are CaSu, and they all stopped early. Except Muan. Because “rui” is a little bit, ok totally crazy, he made this to troll everyone.

Yes, it made me furious, because i knew this will do a lot of damages. But in the same times, this crazy guy made me laugh.

I mean man, look at the official CaSu song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcRyjkYdDxM

How can you think this is serious? thoses idiots are making fun of you with this big troll, it’s their “trophy”

Like a CaSu member say : “Tsume [07|Nov 11:22 am]: C’est le plus beau HF CaSu”

it means, its the greatest CaSu reward

facepalm.jpg. How many time we have to tell you that it’s a fake?

Here is your CaSu armada, the great canadian army :

http://www.grandcross.fr/forum/profile/Muan/

1 member. I put the “Trolling Emperor” rank to him, because he trolled you all. Tell me how many CaSu did you see at night hmm?

As many VS/PA players told you, we played a lot at night. Ourselves.

Stop making movies, please. Like, now. there is obviously situation like this in TRI-FACTION WvW :x

alliance failed, it worked 2 days. I told you many times. Vizunah won last week because of sleep sacrifices, and primetime iron will. But now we are all tired, and all our good commanders need to have a break. Why don’t you read what i tell you? i CREATED the alliance, i know what i speak about.

In progress Tombs ! in progress. I hope they will come. I saw Disorder league (GF, NuGs etec, good old enemys) went on Blacktide, this server will be powerfull too.

Or the french stop acting like kids and ally (too late) or someone help us. If not, it’s our death. End of story

You do not realize. You do not understand. Versus shiverpeaks, etc, we had no “night zerg” but like 30-40 night players (students, security agents etc) passionate about the game. A lot of them has stop, i had 10 guys like this on my guild, they stopped. Okay.

What you saw last week was the sacrifice i talked about : we HAD to play at night, we HAD to go at work like zombies, we had to do a lot of sacrifices and putting all energy to keep desolation away from first position. But we can’t continue do this, its too much.

If nobody help us for the night fights, it’s simple : we will drop T2.

prodigy, don’t tell me that. I launched the alliance, and it failed because of old guild hates. And there was no transfer rofl, stop invent like people invented canadians on Vizu ;o

EDIT : “You’re really fun on AS/VS, having 2 servers allied against 1.”

genius.jpg

why don’t you read what people say? alliance worked only 2 DAYS. 2 DAYS.

http://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?t=1200237 google translate this

Nimraphel.7819:

Word on the street is that Arb will indeed win this, as a large VZ guild has transferred to Arb to ensure that 2 French teams will stay in Tier1 – confirm/deny?

Oh god why. Okay, i’m one of the leaders of the main alliance on Vizunah, Grand Cross. Here is the truth, read it slowly, and please destroy this rumor on Deso.

1) Vizunah made a LOT of sacrifices the last week, to wake up at 4 or 5am, to be at primetime too, our commanders played sometimes 15h/day. 80% of us are like zombies

2) we are all tired. This week will not be our.

3) mass Grand Cross members/officers are at the Paris Game Week, a French event ( http://www.parisgamesweek.com/ )

4) we transfered nobody to PA, they don’t need us, there are already strong.