Why should the mesmer class be the only one to stop zergs? Should another class be the only one able to take camps solo? etc etc. Its a needed balance and besides, Mesmers probably excel at more aspects in this game then any other class.
I use D/P (10-30-15-0-15) and its pretty versatile. It hits hard has enough initiative to keep up in fights, and the burst is great, especially if you have food buffs. It has long stealth times if need be as well.
So tired of the whining about what other mmo’s have. I could say the same for any other class. “Oh Ele’s use daggers, don’t actually cast spells traditionally, and are more tanky than warriors, new class please.” “Oh rangers can use great swords and can switch out pets, different class name please.” How else do you represent stealth other than actually going invisible especially in respect to wvw and pvp. Do people want this game to be lame and stereotypical? All classes in this game have unique aspects to them (except maybe warrior). You have to learn to deal with it.
You guys are as bad as warriors, pretty much kitten delusional.. look at this guy above here.. warrs have this and that and this.. Ya’ll need to roll a warr and there are very few viable builds for WvW or SPvP that deal with good players… and todays nerfs didn’t help. You guys got barely a slap on the hand, It was a fix more than anything… they got wrecked.
and I will tell you this.. No class has the obnoxious badge farming power of the SB ( well maybe necro ) so please, good thieves will keep devastating and the scrubs will keep QQing becuase they need broken skills to win.
This is true. I’m not worried about the thief nerf at all, granted I use D/P. Warriors got absolutely desetroyed this patch. 100b is gone. All the top sPvP warriors are leaving. Heck people need to look at all the forums sections, seriously. I don’t believe warrior players are delusional though. The nerf to bunkers will come soon enough though.
1. Quickness being as powerful as it was kept you from getting the buffs you needed for more than 1 build.
2. Warrior is still perfectly fine in WvW and PVE.
3. Why would you choose to sPVP on a gimmick build that is almost certainly going to be nerfed and THEN complain it got nerfed? That’s as silly as the Mesmer thread about Time Warp.
Boon hate and bunker class ele’s and guardians will hopefully get shafted next patch to balance this out. This was poor decision making on A – nets part though and will push away a lot of warrior players. Can’t wait for next patch to punish all those gimmicky ele and guardian builds hahahaha.
Seriously a warrior quickness nerf that matters mainly in pvp and wvw (killing their one viable build that was good and fun), but a buff to banners which matters mainly for pve. This has to be A-net trolling. Warrior was already laughably bad in everything besides pve. Now he’ll he’s just a literal joke.
I bet most of this thread is a lot of people all agreeing with each other lol that don’t understand that the impact of this nerf is slight especially to aggressive thieves.
I didn’t even know people still stood around long enough to get chained CnD
This is exactly true. This “nerf” won’t affect us thief players much at all. People saying it will separate the good from the bad is just hilarious. This will just cause even more people who play thief to move to one type of build, and people will soon scream to nerf that build as well.
Every thread its ranger’s complaining. Its quite funny actually, since trap rangers counter thieves hard. I understand that rangers need some different build options, but wanting more and more nerfs to thieves doesn’t change the fact that your class’s diversity is just bad right now (the main problem with most classes). Yes I understand they’re changing thieves, and yes it will good in the long run. I’m just tired of ranger players raging hardcore at thief players. It gives other good ranger players a bad name.
I’ve read the thread you posted in with Archaon and you seriously put what this guy said in your signature? I mean, I see that you dislike thieves but putting that in a sig, well its just sad man.
The whole point about real pvp, ie spvp and tpvp, is that everyone is balanced stat wise, so it comes down to who’s the better player.
First off, how’s player vs circle working out for the community? Healthy? Thriving?
Yeah…
Anyways, secondly with the way the mists work (I refuse to call it pvp when the objective is not killing players, but standing in circles harder than the other guy stands in a circle) everyone would still be balanced stat wise.
There would just be more stats to choose from to customize your build.
Basically it’d be like if you hit 80 for wvw and were immediately mailed 1 of every exotic armor and weapon available, stat wise, to customize your guy with. There’s no gear discrepency when everyone has that same exotic gear to work with.
I do pvp and wvw and I’m not sure what you mean? Yes the ‘purpose’ of pvp is to hold points to win matches, just as the purpose of wvw is to accumulate points for your server by capturing keeps and camps. There are places to duel in both pvp and wvw. Just hit up a low population spvp server and it will usually be a dueling server, or find out where your world vs world area hold’s their duels. Personally I enjoy the dueling in pvp more because there is no culling, there are no food buffs, and characters start with everything they need to be on the same level as another. However dueling in wvw is equally important, and it’s really whatever you prefer though.
Regardless, you’re contradicting yourself in this post and it makes you look foolish.
Once culling is fixed we’ll see where the thief land’s itself. As of now most complaints come from wvw and extend from this issue. As of now thief is fairly strong in wvw but underplayed in top level pvp (where there is no culling), just remember that A-net usually balances around pvp, so keep that in mind.
Ranged Rangers, I usually never have problems with in WvW. PvP is a different story because of traps. Rangers in PvP consistently put me down because of this. In general if they switch to great sword or sword/offhand it gets tougher. Good tanky melee rangers put up a good fight and hard to take down for me. Also have to mention rangers are great in other aspects such as defending keeps.
Haven’t had a problem with melee warriors either. Right now I’m running a thief with the “slayer build” a dude posted earlier, but with full berserkers, still built 0-10-30-30-0 d/p. My survivability is only in those lines and those traits + food. d/p allows that I always engage in stealth (rather than having to steal) or engage with skill 5 → 2 → steal so I never get charged, and if I do I i just withdraw or perma stealth till I need to re attack. I can draw the fight out long enough for melee dps warriors to lose duels. Ranged dps warriors are no problem either.
