Guild Wars 2

This is not a problem unique to one server, it should not be so easy for one person to waste these buffs, and put them on full cool down for no reason.

They closed down the JQ thread, and left this crap open?

I am not the biggest fan of the desert bl, and I am happy to see alpine come back. For those that feel the opposite, that’s fine and all, but can you please stop acting so ridiculous and surprised.

They always intended for there to be a ROTATION of maps, neither of them is going away forever. From my understanding technical limitations delayed this for some time. So please stop acting like this was a conspiracy to ignore those who like the dbl and cater to the “whiners” on the forums, its getting old and makes no sense when they said from the beginning the maps would be rotated.

Phoenix.5478:

Hmmm maybe they could implement an option to restrict their use if the keep/tower is uncontested? Not for every tactic but to those aimed for combat?

Thats basically what I would prefer, only let these types of things be usable if there are actually enemies attacking the structure. Right now its either make it unusable for anyone, or there is to much potential for trolling and accidental use.

Jayne.9251:

X T D.6458:

Loosmaster.8263:

Just make sure the guild that claims it does not set it to “Public Use”.

Thats not always the best option, because if that guild doesnt have a member on to switch it to public use, than nobody can use them.

Yes, but it’s within your means to control if the issue is becoming endemic.

This stuff needs to be able to benefit whatever force is on the map, not to be subjected to wasted use. While it is within a guilds means to control it, that doesnt mean its an ideal solution to the problem, there should be a different method implemented.

Spent a lot of time on EB the past week, and every single time, the kitten airship was being pulled for no reason, no enemy inside. As if that wasn’t annoying enough, some people also complain of this causing them lag as well. Please put in some better method of using them, thanks.

Loosmaster.8263:

Just make sure the guild that claims it does not set it to “Public Use”.

Thats not always the best option, because if that guild doesnt have a member on to switch it to public use, than nobody can use them.

This is not about whether they are good or bad, can you please put in a way to stop or limit them being used accidentally or for trolling purposes. Getting really tired of the constant frustration of someone pulling a tactivator for no reason, having it go on cool down when it might actually be needed, and seeing people in chat starting to yell, calling out troll this troll that, and asking for names on who pulled it. Of course there is also cases of accidental use.

Can you please only make things like chilling fog, emergency wp, airship defense useable when there are actually enemies in the structure?

Yes they need to be moved out of the way, especially at north camp, its just really bad placement

[[[[[[[[ALPINE HYPE]]]]]]]]

No thanks to dbl, just because it was new and shiny doesn’t mean its a better map for wvw and fighting. The layout of structures made them have no strategic value, and encouraged people to just bunker up everywhere.

I would rather have fun on a “tired old” map then find myself constantly annoyed on a shiny new one.

Well, apparently the glicko shift from the last 3 days counted and there are some changes in the current match up so I guess it wasn’t a waste. But this is still a weird thing to do midweek.

Um…why did you reset the score in the middle of the week, the last 3 and half days are now meaningless? Can you please explain why this was done?

Wooooooot, thanks for the update, finally I can clean the sand out of my….

Boreal.9826:

X T D.6458:

Yb is finding it harder to do what allowed them to win, basically pv’dooring on empty maps and grinding ppt all day. Since there are more people on maps now, and actually defending their scoring has slowed down quite a bit.

Wait, so it is PVD’ing empty maps and grinding PPT when YB does it (say, during EU), but not when BG, JQ, and DB do it (during OCX/SEA)?

Perspective is a funny thing.

Did you even read what I wrote? YB is actually facing competition now because there are more people playing and more incentive to defend and win a matchup. Therefore what helped a server like YB win, becomes a lot harder for them to do. Yb depended on this tactic as well as their opponenets not putting up any defense to stay on top, now that is’nt happening as much, and the result is yb not being able to compete in the same way.

Guardian of Angels.9867:

all acquired before october 2015

Proofs were introduced with HoT in rankup chests, any ranks acquired before are unaffected and dont get retrorewarded.

LuMai.5034:

I love how people say ET is the strongest t8 server like its t8 and and they were in last place how strong can they be? Maybe BG has a huge rise in population because before veterans quit they moved back to BG like myself and are starting to play again with the alpine bls coming back. But keep saying strong t8 server it makes me laugh.

Its a combination of things that affected each of the t1 servers..

For BG, ET has been a great help in bringing a lot of small team play which BG has lacked for a long time. We also had a lot of players return to the game like a lot of our SEA population to cover a very important timezone. And BG is also known for coming out strong when there is incentive to win, this is nothing new.

JQ kind of got screwed by bad timing, they were losing a lot of important guilds to t2 before the server linking, had their activity level drop to High, then got locked to full status. Then lost more guilds basically making them unable to compete in tier1. The glicko spread will only make it more difficult for them.

Yb is finding it harder to do what allowed them to win, basically pv’dooring on empty maps and grinding ppt all day. Since there are more people on maps now, and actually defending their scoring has slowed down quite a bit.

No thanks, I would rather people be free to play their own way.

Yep, closing the client and restarting the game fixed it, weird bug. Achieves and title were restored.

Just got the same thing, I had 2 gwamm’s and 50/50, my gwamm title was taken away, and all my hom achieves were reset.

Straegen.2938:

LoneWolfSpectre.6412:

The competitive talk is great and all. And i know i can’t do anything but ask, but lets shift this conversation away from pvf. Thats not what this post is about. Its about having an open dialogue for the ET and BG community to discuss.

The problem with this idea is that community talk for BG seems to revolve around running down their opponents and talking about how great they are. Hopefully the in-game chat on their server isn’t like their forum representatives because that would be a sad place at least to me.

And you think statements like that will help? This thread is about fostering communication with ET, if it wasn’t for some bitter yb posters, there wouldn’t be these posts going back and forth. If you feel so strongly about it, stop trying to make this about something it isn’t. How about you take it to the numerous other threads.

Cecilia.5179:

All maps except for ebg outmanned and mostly empty on a Saturday evening.
JQ could really use some transfers. IoJ merge added like 10 people to our community.
It’s really a shame to see JQ so empty.

I do hope to be able to see JQ again someday, you guys always brought good fights. It will be interesting to see what changes are made with the server linking system. Don’t despair too much folks we are still in beta testing, there is hope for the future.

DeWolfe.2174:

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DeWolfe.2174:

So the consensus from the BG players is that BG is the “giant” of WvW? Then you must all agree that the Dev’s made a grievous mistake or was playing favoritism. As pairing the “giant” with the best of the three T8 worlds should not have occurred.

Basically, you’re all agreeing with the OP.

I guess all those guilds leaving JQ doesnt matter right?

I guess it didn’t matter to the Dev’s, now did it? JQ’s World status dropped to “High” even. Didn’t change that the Dev’s felt BG needed the most players from T8.

You might as well concede the point as you have no rational or logical argument to make.

Honest question, if JQ got linked with ET, you still think you would have been able to stay competitive? Don’t get me wrong, I liked fighting JQ, I was kinda surprised with the matchups this week like so many others. My point was that JQ could not sustain the coverage needed to stay competitive in t1. Trying to blame the pairings is a bit ridiculous, we all got linked with a t8 server, and t8 wasnt exactly known for blobs. JQ already had a weaker na/eu presence before the transfers, and was basically carried by their OCX/SEA. The recent update brought a lot of people back to BG and we are focused on winning matchups again, as we do when there is incentive to care. A lot of JQ guilds left because they wanted to start over on a new server and get a change of scenery, that’s understandable, if people are not happy they will go somewhere else. They have to look out for their guilds, people don’t spend all that time trying build up and maintain guilds just to sit around and watch it collapse.

My advice is to try to help rebuild your server whichever way you can, focus on coordination and communication with whatever forces you have on. Create a friendly welcoming environment with your linked server that will encourage them to engage in teamwork. But going on here and blaming everyone and everything is just a waste of time.

DeWolfe.2174:

So the consensus from the BG players is that BG is the “giant” of WvW? Then you must all agree that the Dev’s made a grievous mistake or was playing favoritism. As pairing the “giant” with the best of the three T8 worlds should not have occurred.

Basically, you’re all agreeing with the OP.

I guess all those guilds leaving JQ doesnt matter right?

Dream In A Dream.7213:

style.6173:

Dream In A Dream.7213:

LOL. How did bg benefit from merging with ET? It probably screwed them up more than anything. They were already stacked. JQ is still bigger than most servers, it will survive I am sure. BG vs TC is going to be interesting though.

It benefitted them mostly because yak’s got stuck with anvil rock who had no population.

BG had plenty of pop before the merge. All the queues are mostly bg players. Also last time I checked most ppl on YB were happy with being linked to AR. I am not on BG, just find the logic of these complaints too out there.

Reality set in for some people and they cant seem to handle it lol, even though we kept telling them it would happen. These servers can no longer stay competitive but want to lash out at everyone else so they can find people to place the blame on. Its either they stay in the tier and get crushed and blame the other server for blobbing and having to many people. Or they drop and blame it on some backroom conspiracy.

Hey people servers drop sometimes, I was on a losing server for a long time, from tier 1 to t8, this stuff happens, its not the end of the world. I personally didnt want JQ to drop, but its not our fault you lost your lead over YB last week, if you cant stay competitive you drop, simple as that.

Scamp.5296:

I don’t think it’s the devs, really, DeWolfe. I think it’s player GMs on BG who are the source of the leak. And X T D, how would you know if there was an NDA or not? LOL! I guess you are the one with the crystal ball then, huh?

Because NDA’s are not given for live beta testing on public servers lol. At least not to my knowledge, if I am wrong, please prove it.

This is a great community of people. I love the focus on coordination, communication and dedication to teamwork on this server.

Wanted to give a shoutout to our friends on ET for their great teamwork, and working together to ease the transition for both our servers. You guys have been great!

DeWolfe.2174:

X T D.6458:

I just find this thread funny, go out and have fun instead of throwing out conspiracy theories lol. Server linking is being beta tested on live servers, there is no NDA.

So you are saying there was no leaked information? Like that entire thread on Reddit was from someone using a crystal ball and a ouija board??? I don’t believe that either…

I was posting the T1 Q’s last weekend. It’s incredibly disingenuous of you to say BG didn’t receive the lions share of players from the pairings. BG Q’d every map, including OS! That’s more than 400 players over what is required to Q all 4 maps. But, that’s ok because BG needed the help right?

….. Enjoy the pity pairing from the Dev’s BG.

And that unconfirmed post with no source from anet did what exactly for us? The update brought a lot of players back to the game, and BG is always out in force on weekends anyways, especially resets. Why is anyone surprised that with more people coming back, and the added players of a linked server that we had a lot of players on?

People in t8 were complaining that their maps were dead for a long time, but suddenly oh its ET thats the problem?

Scamp.5296:

LOL! 1) I don’t expect them to go on a “witch hunt.” I expect them to be more careful with info that should be covered by an NDA; and 2) I’m not a guy.

I just find this thread funny, go out and have fun instead of throwing out conspiracy theories lol. Server linking is being beta tested on live servers, there is no NDA.

Yes Im sure anet will go on a witch hunt now that some guy on the internet threw out an accusation but has no evidence to back it up. Very good bro, this is your “Mission Accomplished” moment.

Geez Sladi, I would think you would know better then to make one of these threads lol

The poll is a way to ask the community what set of features to prioritize and focus on for the next update. It doesnt mean that the one that doesnt win out will not be implemented at some point. The poll is simply there to help them prioritize what players find more important. Their approach to wvw right now, is to ship out smaller updates incrementally instead of one giant update. This makes a lot more sense in many ways. Easier to get feedback, and fix issues this way.

Dream In A Dream.7213:

LOL. How did bg benefit from merging with ET? It probably screwed them up more than anything. They were already stacked. JQ is still bigger than most servers, it will survive I am sure. BG vs TC is going to be interesting though.

ET has been great to work with, they bring a lot of small team play which is something BG has not had enough of in the past.

Its pretty funny, BG starts winning and people are having an existential meltdown.
Tin Hats on bois, the conspiracies are all around us!

Please give me some evidence of anything that was leaked to us. There was an anet tag on YB the other day, in fact there was an Anet Claim on a keep that YB captured, so that means YB got preferential treatment too?

You had 100 person queues and your complaining? JQ was neck and neck with YB going into thursday, I think JQ was leading, but lost it because they let YB flip their bl all day.

As for BG, Beastmode is now active

llllll RESET HYPE llllll

Great guild, great to work with, very teamwork oriented.

I have been as critical as anyone towards anet regarding wvw, I do try to stay objective when possible. I can say I am very happy right now with the direction WvW is going. I find myself more active and involved. What I like most is that they are not simply putting bandaids on wvw this time, they are actually overhauling the mechanics, which is much needed, improving qol features, and actually communicating and taking feedback from the community.

In the past, when anet would say they had plans for wvw…I and I know many others would kind of mutter…well kitten how they going to ruin it this time lol..But now I am looking forward to future updates, changes, and improvements, because they are doing it the right way now.

The WvW team deserves a lot of praise for reorganizing their priorities and working hard on all these updates. And I have to say I am also impressed with Mike O’Brein after he took over for CJ, reorganizing staff and really pushing out a ton of fixes and features.

Tyler we very much appreciate your communication and hard work, we can be a pain in the kitten , but its only because we care. There are very few people who would want to go back to the past where we would go months at a time without a single dev post in the wvw section, or anything related to wvw in any update.

Keep up the good work.

lil devils x.6071:

X T D.6458:

LordCody.6245:

neither of their choices really concern me i only want to see the alphine maps back atm cause as it is majority still dont like nor want to play on the desert maps which keeps EB constantly qued in most of the matchups so come on give us the old maps back and spread the fight out all over WvW like we use to do

Alpine will be rotated back in the next quarterly update, which I assume will be in July.

I don’t think they are waiting for the quarterly:

Alpine Borderlands will be rotated back in with the next release (not hotfix.)~ Tyler Bearce.3427

They said before we would get it as soon as it is ready, so when is the next release?

My mistake, must have mixed it up with something else.

LordCody.6245:

neither of their choices really concern me i only want to see the alphine maps back atm cause as it is majority still dont like nor want to play on the desert maps which keeps EB constantly qued in most of the matchups so come on give us the old maps back and spread the fight out all over WvW like we use to do

Alpine will be rotated back in the next quarterly update, which I assume will be in July.

lil devils x.6071:

X T D.6458:

lil devils x.6071:

X T D.6458:

Murphys Law.8561:

No! VOTE FOR CROSS WORLD CHAT FOR THE FLAMES!

-Some people just want to watch the world burn.

No lol, its not that kind of cross world chat, it means cross map for your server. Meaning if your on EB, you can chat with people on a bl.

Isn’t a bad idea, not a massively important one as players already do talk to players on other maps in game via whispering them, however they should not encourage the text players to not get on voice comms. Will also increase spam across maps as well as make confusing calls since calls for NWT ,SEC, ect do not usually specify what BL when that is the one they are on. Having other calls something in to team chat would make that a cluster kitten having players run all over he place to the wrong objectives on the wrong maps.

THIS also makes it super easy for people to spy on a server. They do not even have to be on your server to watch map chat for all maps lol.

It is a really good idea, one I wouldn’t mind seeing. Being in comms is important, but sometimes players cant use it for a variety of reasons but still want to be helpful, and this would be a very much appreciated tool. Spying is always going to happen, we had one in our ts, and one following our tag everywhere the other night, not to mention we always have someone tag watching us, amazing how they know to port/run before we are even near them.

So how are we going to get players to say " NWT BGBL" instead of just NWT on the map they are on? XD It is hard enough to get them to call the targets something you can understand, now you have to figure out not only the target on the map but the map as well haha I have a feeling a ton of people are going to wind up getting blocked …

Assign scouts in ts that your more comfortable with. Work out a rotation and reward for them. If they are calling out something in ts, they would have to say which map anyways, this would just let people type it instead of speaking. But of course doesnt mean people cant do both, it would just be helpful for those who cant be in comms.

I just hope that they don’t neglect the one that is not chosen, both are important to work on. However it is understandable that they want to focus on one set of changes and improvements at a time.

lil devils x.6071:

X T D.6458:

Murphys Law.8561:

No! VOTE FOR CROSS WORLD CHAT FOR THE FLAMES!

-Some people just want to watch the world burn.

No lol, its not that kind of cross world chat, it means cross map for your server. Meaning if your on EB, you can chat with people on a bl.

Isn’t a bad idea, not a massively important one as players already do talk to players on other maps in game via whispering them, however they should not encourage the text players to not get on voice comms. Will also increase spam across maps as well as make confusing calls since calls for NWT ,SEC, ect do not usually specify what BL when that is the one they are on. Having other calls something in to team chat would make that a cluster kitten having players run all over he place to the wrong objectives on the wrong maps.

THIS also makes it super easy for people to spy on a server. They do not even have to be on your server to watch map chat for all maps lol.

It is a really good idea, one I wouldn’t mind seeing. Being in comms is important, but sometimes players cant use it for a variety of reasons but still want to be helpful, and this would be a very much appreciated tool. Spying is always going to happen, we had one in our ts, and one following our tag everywhere the other night, not to mention we always have someone tag watching us, amazing how they know to port/run before we are even near them.

Murphys Law.8561:

No! VOTE FOR CROSS WORLD CHAT FOR THE FLAMES!

-Some people just want to watch the world burn.

No lol, its not that kind of cross world chat, it means cross map for your server. Meaning if your on EB, you can chat with people on a bl.

LordCody.6245:

X T D.6458:

Svarty.8019:

The sides aren’t even and never have been. Arenanet always flat out refuse to confirm that the caps are even.

The sides are actually even, Stephen Wilson* replied to a question I asked in a thread once to a question I asked regarding this same issue, because I too found it hard to believe sometimes that all sides were actually equal. But it has been confirmed, I will try to do some digging and find it.

Here was my question-

Many of us have been wondering for a very long time, are the map caps for each server actually equal for each map, dont have to give the actual number, but are they actually equal because sometimes….

Here was the reply-

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:
The number of players allowed in per team all follow the same rules on all instances of each WvW map.
The numbers you see on the World Transfer screen are based on the number of players who have signed up for that world: what we call the membership count – which is not the same thing as the number of players active at any one time for that world.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Lag-March-2015/page/14

that is a round about answer it doesnt confirm anything but i would have to say none one has priority in WvW especially in this past week seeing 3 zergs collide with each other one wasnt bigger then the other
another note why bring up the world transfer screen to an answer about WvW map caps and besides the transfer screen was incorrect for over a year after mega server showed all server that wasnt already full as being very high even now i question that screen cause at this moment its showing 10 servers full unless there has been some mass transfers lately

You have to look at the thread to get context on the second part of his reply. The first part basically confirms what the OP was asking, every server/map has the same rules, plain and simple. No one server can have more people on the map in a technical sense then the other, any visual imbalance we see with numbers and group size is player driven, not anything technical that allows one server to have more on a map than another.

Vote or Die! Both are important issues that need to be worked on, and kudos to anet for continuing to improve WvW with community involvement and testing.

For those that have not seen it, there is a link in the login newsfeed.

Svarty.8019:

X T D.6458:

Svarty.8019:

The sides aren’t even and never have been. Arenanet always flat out refuse to confirm that the caps are even.

The sides are actually even, Stephen Wilson* replied to a question I asked in a thread once to a question I asked regarding this same issue, because I too found it hard to believe sometimes that all sides were actually equal. But it has been confirmed, I will try to do some digging and find it.

Here was my question-

Many of us have been wondering for a very long time, are the map caps for each server actually equal for each map, dont have to give the actual number, but are they actually equal because sometimes….

Here was the reply-

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:
The number of players allowed in per team all follow the same rules on all instances of each WvW map.
The numbers you see on the World Transfer screen are based on the number of players who have signed up for that world: what we call the membership count – which is not the same thing as the number of players active at any one time for that world.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Lag-March-2015/page/14

Well, that’s me put in my place!

But… I wouldn’t be surprised if they got the caps wrong because of bugs.

I still, like you did, find it too difficult to believe the sides are even.

I know the feeling, but it is what it is.

Svarty.8019:

The sides aren’t even and never have been. Arenanet always flat out refuse to confirm that the caps are even.

The sides are actually even, Stephen Wilson* replied to a question I asked in a thread once to a question I asked regarding this same issue, because I too found it hard to believe sometimes that all sides were actually equal. But it has been confirmed, I will try to do some digging and find it.

Here was my question-

Many of us have been wondering for a very long time, are the map caps for each server actually equal for each map, dont have to give the actual number, but are they actually equal because sometimes….

Here was the reply-

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:
The number of players allowed in per team all follow the same rules on all instances of each WvW map.
The numbers you see on the World Transfer screen are based on the number of players who have signed up for that world: what we call the membership count – which is not the same thing as the number of players active at any one time for that world.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Lag-March-2015/page/14

Blockhead Magee.3092:

Another interesting factoid is that 94.5% of all facts are made up on the spot.

True but only 40% of all people know that.

If you approach and make yourself visible to the enemy without actually getting involved, you can see their reaction, if they don’t react to you, they are clearly dueling, so I don’t get involved.