Guild Wars 2

What they need to do is separate skill balancing and fix what is actually broken, not continue this buff and nerf circus that goes on every few months.

Clearly there is not enough stealth in wvw, we need more stealth and condi spam.

It should be easier to kill people while being permanently invisible in a competitive game mode and it so unfair that not every class can do this. Because fighting people while being seen takes too much work and that’s no fun!

Not only that, but we should allow everyone to block every attack like guardians, and have tons of damage immunity and hp regen like warriors. While also evading and dodging everything like thieves!

CUZ BALANCE, THE MOST UNFUNNY JOKE IN GW!
PLEASE ANET CONTINUE TO NOT FIX ANYTHING BROKEN!

Is this patch a joke???

No seriously is this a joke?

Do your balance devs really not know what a giant mess they created in wvw and just made even worse?

Do they even care?

Nothing about epidemic
Guardian buffs
Thief buffs
Nothing about all the warrior passive sustains.
Nothing about conditions except more of it

I am just baffled why you guys continue to destroy WvW by failing to fix what is so broken and continues to drive players away…

Anet please fix the false queue bug, we have been seeing false numbers into the 30’s and 40’s for some maps but people are able to get in instantly or after a few seconds. It is getting very frustrating because groups on other maps never know if they will be able to get onto a map.

A few more:

-A way to reset WxP points, would be helpful for new players

-A visible RI timer on shrines in DBL when hovering your mouse cursor over it like other objectives.

-Add an option to an existing vendor (or add a new vendor) that allows players to exchange excess items like tomes of knowledge for stuff like Badges of Honor and/or Proofs of Heroics
Maybe something like 1 tome of knowledge can be exchanged for 1 proof or 5/10 badges.

-I got to use the new launchpads in DBL last night with my guild during a raid, and we enjoyed the mechanic. But I would suggest that some of them be repositioned. I dont think they should land you right next to any objective or shrine, and the one that takes you over Earth Keep should definately be moved. Even though you cannot get off while traveling you can still see whats inside the keep and that seems a little unfair.

Whats the big deal, I mean yes it would be nice to have an actual way to get ascended gear in WvW, but this is not a new feature that was announced in that post. It was just telling players that the already existing feature is getting a change.

Korgov.7645:

• Add an option to refresh all friendly siege in an objective by talking to the lord or the overseer
  • Alternatively remove the refreshing of siege. i.e. make siege always decay but let it be built half the supply cost within friendly objectives.

Thanks for all the contributions!

One of the problems with the idea of being able to instantly refresh all siege is that it can easily promote siege trolling. One of the nice things about siege decay timers and the need to refresh it is that it allows paper/troll siege to expire and the only other way to remove it is to have it get destroyed.

Did it ever occur to you that scores are not the most reliable method of understanding why a server has a certain status? Server status is calculated by a combination of population and activity, it has nothing to do with your servers performance or score, those things determine your matchups.

There are many players who will run closed raids and do not care about scores or defending and just want to get fights, they will contribute to a servers population and activity, but not to scores. Simply looking at scores gives you a vague idea of what is actually going on so stop basing everything on it.

Scouting, and giving proper scout reports is always important. Whether or not anything is done about it is a different story. It is very easy to lose something because of lack of scouting. Thankfully now scouts can get shared participation credit in a squad so they can still get something for their contribution.

There are some essential things you want to know before scouting. How to communicate a scout report, how to check a structure (know where and how it can be attacked), know how to counter and defend with siege. You will also want to check the map often to see what gets flipped, ri timers, see where there are swords, orange dots etc, these are good indicators and can help greatly.

Take Garrison on Alpine borderland for example…You have 5 outer gates, 3 inner gates, and 2 wall sections on the northeast and northwest that can be attacked. This is where you check for damage, enemies, incoming siege etc. You also need to know other methods of how a structure can be attacked. The garrison can also be trebbed from the northern towers.

You can also counter a lot of attacks with proper siege placement throughout a structure, be creative with it. A dedicated scout will know where to place these defensive siege weapons.

Being in TS with a group/commander is essential for proper communication and getting a response. Being able to give a timely and accurate report is also very important.

You should focus on this info:
number of enemies
location-outer/inner and structure
method of attack
guild tag(s)
HP on structure

Sometimes there can be an attack where you are not scouting, and you might see orange swords indicating that there are more then 25 enemies present. Use that info when reporting to your group as you run over to get more info.

It is also important to familiarize yourself with lingo that is commonly used and attributed to different areas of a map. Also knowing how and when to use the tactivators can make a big difference.

Eval.2371:

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Paarthurnax.8931:

It’s not fine.

Im on Tarnished Coast (5th) currently full while the 1th and 2nd servers are with transfers open while our wvw population is small compared to them.

It got to a point where we’re playing in peak hours, we had a 20 man squad against a truckload of people on maguuma and blackgate on the Eternal Battlegrounds, each time we got wiped, people left the squad until our commander said kitten it and we all went to EoTM instead.

In peak hours we

TC is intentionally tanking this week to avoid getting locked in tier 1. This has been a wasted week of nonstop ktrains. I always enjoy fighting TC and I hate how this is playing out but I also understand why people don’t want to be in this tier. As for me, my interest in wvw couldn’t be lower when its just ktraining. Ironically there’s more fights in EoTM sometimes.

TC can’t fight tier 1 atm. It is clear as day. We could barely keep up with tier 2 (just making second place the one week and coming in dead last the second). We don’t have the numbers or the enthusiasm. We’ve lost a lot of guilds over the last month and a half. Some of us gave up when we saw tier 1, just because of how poor the attitudes are of the other servers, some of us gave up mid way through the match up because it isnt fun to get bag farmed at spawns, some of us despite being frustrated are actually still trying.

I can tell you there are a few guilds that say were throwing, still that does not rep the entire TC community, Zog’s been running some pretty substantial hours, [Wolf] has been running some aggressive hours as well and we have had a lot recruitment going on.

Last night was pretty gloom, as we spent 5 hours being spawn camped on every bl by mag and bg with 0-6 ppt. We couldn’t even muster up enough people to take back ebg keep during prime time. It was almost enough to write another ticket to support.

I don’t understand how were closed when can’t even muster 30 people into eb during prime, yet, its fine for mag and bg to open with double onimblobs ktraining everywhere. Sure you may have had fun and have your own perception but I don’t share it.

I can tell you there are many of us on BG that are not interested in this kind of garbage, and are very unhappy about it. I hope in the future we get back to having some good fights because I always liked having TC and JQ in a matchup.

Paarthurnax.8931:

It’s not fine.

Im on Tarnished Coast (5th) currently full while the 1th and 2nd servers are with transfers open while our wvw population is small compared to them.

It got to a point where we’re playing in peak hours, we had a 20 man squad against a truckload of people on maguuma and blackgate on the Eternal Battlegrounds, each time we got wiped, people left the squad until our commander said kitten it and we all went to EoTM instead.

In peak hours we

TC is intentionally tanking this week to avoid getting locked in tier 1. This has been a wasted week of nonstop ktrains. I always enjoy fighting TC and I hate how this is playing out but I also understand why people don’t want to be in this tier. As for me, my interest in wvw couldn’t be lower when its just ktraining. Ironically there’s more fights in EoTM sometimes.

Nuuuuuu not an artist. The people that designed this game deserve so much credit because it is absolutely beautiful. If the game engine were better optimized more people could enjoy it…cough cough…… I had to.

Best of luck to him and Horia!

P.S.- Please give Maclaine Diemer ANYTHING HE WANTS lol. If that genius ever leaves I will cry

Sarika.3756:

Is the objective color thing part of it? That would explain slot. I haven’t had the loading screen bug in awhile, although some guildies are dealing with it nightly. But I have the objective color bug or the no color objective bug almost every night.

The rendering issues and objectives color not updating properly do not always come with the loading bug but from what I have seen there seems to be a connection between them. When I first started encountering the long loading bug I loaded onto a waypoint with my weapons missing, skill effects not rendering etc. Those issues can still occur though even if the loading bug doesn’t kick in.

Sometimes I have those other issues but wont have the long loading issue. Sometimes all of it and need to restart the client because it is so bad. I find that this happens most often in EB which coincidentally is also the map with the most lag.

The problem with fixing this is the randomness of it, it is difficult to reproduce.

Here is another, auto-hide option for mini-pets in WvW.

Also remove minipet dots from minimap so players do not confuse it with other players.

Looks like they fixed the bug that caused players to be teleported to the wrong map, ty!

Glad to hear!

As others have said, this bug is often accompanied by rendering issues like your weapons and character going invisible, especially after using a tonic. This bug also causes many skill effects to not render which is very frustrating in big fights for obvious reasons. Another issue that comes up with this is that the color of objectives does not update properly. I have noticed these problems happen most often in EB.

Please also fix the false queue bug, this happens consistently. It seems to be a bug with how the system updates the queue status.

This is an old game bug where a player is not where the game shows them to be. I am sure most people have encountered the ressurection bug, where you are unable to rez a player that you are standing next to. The reason is that the player is not actually in that location and for some reason the game does not update it properly, this can be extremely frustrating in WvW for obvious reasons. Same thing occurs at random times when trying to finish an enemy, the option comes up, the animation is performed, but the opponent is not killed for some reason. Very annoying bug that needs to be finally fixed.

From Wiki:

Home World

Each new account must select a home world as part of the initial setup. This selection is only relevant when accessing World versus World. Accounts can be transferred to a different world once every 7 days, if the new world is not full.

If there are no characters in the account then the transfer is free. Otherwise, there is a cost that is determined by the population of the new world. The account is logged out during the transfer process, which might take 5-30 minutes.

It seems that the same restrictions apply. If the player is not already on Maguuma then they will have to wait until the server opens up to transfer.

Remake it into a Lobby, like PvP has.

That is one insecure player. I agree though those boosters should not be allowed in WvW, and the other buffs should have a consolidated icon.

I will make this one other point. There are players who would be hesitant to transfer out of a full server to a lower tier for fear of not being able to get back in if they are not satisfied with the new server they choose. This can result in a player opting to purchase an alt account instead of transferring their main account.

gebrechen.5643:

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Swamurabi.7890:

Why does Anet let other servers fall out of T1 but BG always get re-opened before they have the chance to fall? JQ, TC, DB, YB have all dropped at least one tier. Some have dropped three. Why don’t you test the “great community” of BG by letting them drop a tier or two?

What do you mean let servers fall out? Do you not understand what tier 1 is? There is nowhere to go but down in tier 1, therefore a server must remain competitive to remain in it. All those servers went through large exodus’ and issues with server drama that made it difficult if not impossible to stay competitive in tier 1.

Also, do you really want BG rolling a lower tier match…really? I don’t think anyone wants that lol.

All of those servers were locked for a long time which made them drop because no one could transfer there.
BG always was the special snowflake which got opened for transfers.

BG is locked for months at a time, and only had a link the first time it was implemented. Any other excuses?

Swamurabi.7890:

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Swamurabi.7890:

Why does Anet let other servers fall out of T1 but BG always get re-opened before they have the chance to fall? JQ, TC, DB, YB have all dropped at least one tier. Some have dropped three. Why don’t you test the “great community” of BG by letting them drop a tier or two?

What do you mean let servers fall out? Do you not understand what tier 1 is? There is nowhere to go but down in tier 1, therefore a server must remain competitive to remain in it. All those servers went through large exodus’ and issues with server drama that made it difficult if not impossible to stay competitive in tier 1.

Also, do you really want BG rolling a lower tier match…really? I don’t think anyone wants that lol.

I think that if BG stayed locked and dropped out of tier 1 that you’d see a mass exodus of players back into whichever server replaced them.

I think all T1 servers should be locked just so they can’t steal experienced players from lower tiers just to stay “competitive” in tier 1. And I think they shouldn’t be unlocked until they drop at least one tier, maybe two.

Hibergate on that.

#rotate_the_dream

I don’t think you understand the mechanics. All 3 tier one servers are currently locked. Your idea would simply allow a tier 1 server to open up a lot faster by intentionally dropping to tier 2 and easily regaining the glicko points needed to go right back up to tier 1.

Server status is attributed to population activity. People take breaks, its a game remember? Anet is not here make your server competitive, that is up to that servers population.

Hate on BG all you want, that is fine, but we haven’t broken any rules or done anything wrong. It is not our fault that people want to come to a stable server considering what has been going on in WvW, in fact it is downright reasonable for those that do want to be on a stable server. It is not for everyone and that is perfectly fine, as long as people are happy where they are.

Fay.2357:

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What do you mean “before trying to push Anet”…is Anet involved in whatever this is?

Nope, they’re trying to collect a cohesive set of ideas so that they can present something reasonable to anet about it.

So what’s the big deal, how is it any different then what goes on in this forum?

Swamurabi.7890:

Why does Anet let other servers fall out of T1 but BG always get re-opened before they have the chance to fall? JQ, TC, DB, YB have all dropped at least one tier. Some have dropped three. Why don’t you test the “great community” of BG by letting them drop a tier or two?

What do you mean let servers fall out? Do you not understand what tier 1 is? There is nowhere to go but down in tier 1, therefore a server must remain competitive to remain in it. All those servers went through large exodus’ and issues with server drama that made it difficult if not impossible to stay competitive in tier 1.

Also, do you really want BG rolling a lower tier match…really? I don’t think anyone wants that lol.

What do you mean “before trying to push Anet”…is Anet involved in whatever this is?

First, outnumbered is not a buff.

Second, stop throwing random numbers out there.

Third, map caps need to be reduced.

It can certainly seem that way, enemy blobs can be so massive at times while your side might look outnumbered. However without being able to account for everyone on your side, regardless if they are in squad or not there is no way to make an accurate assumption here.

Sometimes it just comes down to perception being reality…

Looking forward to the new living story…is there any ETA on the skill balance update?

I do not personally think there is an exploit here, but possibly a bug causing more damage then intended, at least that is how it sounds judging from the way people have described it. Arrow cart skills are not unblockable and therefore should be affected by things like the runes 6th bonus effect.

I think some people who did not play GW1 are confused about what a build template/saver system is. It lets the player create a build and save/load it when possible. This would be very useful in wvw as there are different playstyles and a build that works with one, may not necessarily be effective for another.

For example I do pretty much everything, zerg, small ops, havok, scouting, roaming, even dolyak escorting, etc. A build template system would make it so much easier and would encourage players to pursue different playstyles rather then simply sticking to one like zerging.

Hey all, I have been reading through many recent threads and thought it would be a good idea to start a thread with a compiled list of ideas for QoL improvements players have mentioned they would like to see in WvW.

Here are some that I have seen:

*Siege Wallet.

*Build Templates.

*Ways to prevent tactivator abuse/trolling.

*More ways to get Flax Fibers for guild upgrades. Put them in reward tracks or create a forge recipe to create them from flax seeds.

*A way to get ascended gear and other rewards.

*Reward tracks that are unique to WvW with special rewards.

*Rotate DBL each week so it is not limited to red side only..one week green, next week blue, then red, and repeat etc.

*Improve pathing and navigation in DBL.

*More Enrichment Infusions for Amulets specifically made for WvW.

*Squad Improvements, different colors (nametags, and dots on map) for party members to allow better positioning and make it easier for party members to stay close, when they are running specific group comps.

*Remove/Reduce player cap for WvW guild missions.

*Option to disable screen popup messages, and WxP floaters.

*Changes to Waypoint Contesting.

*WvW Lobby.

*Tone down the DBL keep lords, too much CC spam.

*Rewards for Excess WvW rank points.

Please add your own ideas.

Aeolus.3615:

what if players could vote on a list of players that took the tactivator action?
This would pop up to guild that owns the structure and players nearby that structure.

player X used tactivator at XPTO
| | OK |____________ | X | PUNISH |

Players after some points would loose the capabilityto dorp or use siege / tactivators and this would be account based, not character based.

No, see reasons already stated in other posts.

Justine.6351:

They really should just put all players in one big que that filters them to teams as a side needs players, allowing a max of 5player teams to que together.

I’m wondering if eotm would turn into a ghost town doing that though because of low population spread thin?

Random sorting of players with a que system would make it impossible for friends and guildies to play to together. With the current instance system it allows players to play together on different instances.

Not to mention the irony of seeing EoTM with queues considering one of the reasons it was created was to allow players queued for WvW to play around in.

ThousandArmy.3250:

SloRules.3560:

Go to real WvW…

There is No “Real WvW” it depends what everyone likes to play

There is Real WvW, you can open your WvW window and choose one of the 4 maps to play on.

They could also put an internal cooldown on a player for placing food so one player cannot just throw down a bunch of trays.

Goatjugsoup.8637:

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Rangerdeity.5847:

you could removethe tactivators and simply add them as a dialog option to the upgrade npc so that people who dont know what they do wont hit them out of curiosity. that would eliminate over half of the abuse

Npcs can be killed which would make them unusable.

well actually wouldnt that make it a strategy for people to try to kill that npc? and then also on the reverse side to defend them

No, this would create more issues. If the npc is a standard guard, it will die instantly and would not be fair for defenders and would just encourage the use of tactivators as quick as possible rather then strategically. Making it stronger like a champion would be unfair to attackers, as it could also be affected by Iron Guards. I already listed some issues in an earlier post why making it invulnerable would not be practical either.

One of the good things about having an interactable object like levers is that it can be placed away from a lords room, thus giving a better chance for defenders to use them, and forcing attackers to guard that area. NPC’s can be aggroed into a blob, just imagine it this way…what if you had to talk to the lord to activate something…

EoTM is not part of WvW. WvW means World vs World, EoTM uses megaserver mechanics to sort players by the color of their server. This means all players who are on servers that are red will be part of Badlands, and will be sorted by means of an instance system similar to PvE. There is no queue system for EoTM.

There is nothing support can do, because there is nothing to fix or investigate.

Rangerdeity.5847:

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Rangerdeity.5847:

you could removethe tactivators and simply add them as a dialog option to the upgrade npc so that people who dont know what they do wont hit them out of curiosity. that would eliminate over half of the abuse

Npcs can be killed which would make them unusable.

make that one singular npc non-combat and immune to damage……. pretty kitten simple if you ask me. the tactic of killing siege vendors has been dead for ages anyway since people just carry stacks of 100 around

That could bring up a bunch of other issues, regarding targeting, aggro messing with capture (invuln yaks for example), and players fighting around the npc to avoid damage.

Also having an interactable object rather then a dialogue option is much faster, which means if there is an enemy blob in the area, you don’t want to be standing there waiting for a dialogue window to pop up and reading the options before you choose.

CrimeMaker.8612:

I honestly do agree with nuking servers and starting new one. T1 is dead right now which is dumb. You have server who has players but hibernates, other is over stacked with players who think they are good because they abuse cancer and do it well and other is just Asia Asia Asia TW TW TW and oh the other server is just Carebears…
honestly list goes on
but I definitely would love to see servers getting nuked and new sever being start up.

But the ascended gear vendor in WvW? YOU W000T M8? WvW don’t need ascended gear! Stats don’t matter in WvW! Pvp needs ascended gear because that hear actually matters in PvP LOL ANET IS A JOKE.

SILENTLY WAITS FOR GAILE GRAYS DAMAGE CONTROL POST

A lot of people are just bored right now, and there is little interest. The scoring change that implemented 2/1/1 made it a lot worse because it basically encourages players to not bother to show up. Combine that with the lack of rewards, issues with lag, and impatience with waiting on something to be done with class balance and you have a very stale environment and frustrated and apathetic player base.

A lot of the issues are out of the hands of the WvW devs, it is the fault of anet management. It doesn’t help that they are delaying the skill balance update as announced yesterday, possibly because of PvP.

Rangerdeity.5847:

you could removethe tactivators and simply add them as a dialog option to the upgrade npc so that people who dont know what they do wont hit them out of curiosity. that would eliminate over half of the abuse

Npcs can be killed which would make them unusable.

The problem is abuse and trolling of tactivator’s, we don’t need to see a list a players who might just be using it for legitimate reasons, or by accident considering the close proximity of the levers to other interactable objects and npc’s. This would lead to a large number of reports that would still make it impossible to determine if the intent was to troll or if it was accidental. Screen pop ups are annoying enough as it is, we don’t need more.

Guilds can slot in upgrades for a structure regardless of who claims it, so a ban list cannot be used nor is it a practical solution. Hypothetically, you could have 1 guild claim a keep, and then 6 different guilds slot in an upgrade, there is just no way such an idea could work.

What they can do is put implement a mechanic that prevents the use of certain tactivators until a criteria is met. For example emergency waypoint would not be useable unless a structure was actually being attacked and damage was done to gate/walls/lord.

Roundabout.1752:

Disappointed there was no mention of adding items to our collections, Blade Shards, Mystic Forge Stones area specific currency etc.

Yes I also would like to know if this will be implemented.

Geneva.3140:

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I am happy about being able to get more leather, but didn’t they say there is already a lot out there? Wouldn’t the best option be to reduce the need for it, by reducing the amount needed for crafting?

Also, happy about ab multiloot finally getting fixed.

I feel confident in speculating that sort of the motive behind announcing the leather farm is going to be a thing it to give incentive to those hoarders to sell- but not saying how/what/where is smart because it could potentially be a flood and we’ll see leather prices from like 3 years ago OR it’ll be small and the leather will only filter down slowly.

Hard to say but it is funny watching the market price jump on ectos and drop on leather like crazy right now!

Heh it will be interesting to watch. Basically this announcement might cause a massive sell off for leather for fear of loss of value, and the opposite for ectos where people invest in it assuming the price will rise high enough to make a profit.

I don’t think most players care about that, they just want to be able to craft stuff without spending all there gold or rng farming. Having to use over 10g worth of mats just to craft an exotic insignia for one piece of gear is not a pleasant experience for anyone. It especially hurts new players. Not to mention how expensive it made crafting ascended gear.

Chaba.5410:

The best obstruction is the white rabbit in Alpine BL at the top of the stairs of the southwest spawn. You can stand right next to it and your necro scepter auto will not hit it at all. Always reproducible.

Swc in alpine bl is full of these obstruction points, sometimes even when standing right in front of an npc on what looks like flat terrain.

You forgot stealth spam. Broken class is broken.

I am happy about being able to get more leather, but didn’t they say there is already a lot out there? Wouldn’t the best option be to reduce the need for it, by reducing the amount needed for crafting?

Also, happy about ab multiloot finally getting fixed.

Please don’t disappoint on the balance update, especially for WvW, it needs it badly. Is there any ETA for it?

Nate.3927:

Glass Hand.7306:

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Over the last several months, Anet has made several changes to glicko and to scoring that greatly increases the chances of having more variety in matchups. The downside of this is that it can lead to lopsided matchups with a dominant server rolling a matchup with servers from a lower tier.

The problem with the matchup variety is that the server populations and coverage are terribly imbalanced. The result is half the matches (or more) are complete face stomps.

If there was decent population balance the matchup variety would be a good thing.

Right now it’s just driving people away.

That’s why Anet suggested more, smaller servers. A lot easier to balance population through linking if they have lots of small numbers to work with, as opposed to a tiny sample of larger numbers. But people don’t want that.

There were a lot of problems with that proposal, which was only brought for discussion. They never mentioned it being an actual alternative or replacement for WvW. The biggest issue with it, in my opinion, was the lack of details and how it would affect servers. There were many reasons players were hesitant about it.

LeoEatsPeople.1034:

So this was really a wanted thing? Its soo boring. Id rather be on a losing team than a dominating team but I guess others would rather the other side right.

It is not unreasonable for players to want more variety in a matchup, but there is always the trade off with any kind of match making system. There is no perfect system.