Uhhh.. Necromancer being the hardest class to get used to.. Is a joke. They are intermediate at the very worst. (This is a completely opinionated statement.) The Professions with the steepest learning curve are easily Warrior/Engineer. I made a Minion Based Necro from scratch, and I can consistently beat 2 to 3 people at the same time In Tournaments. I made a Necro to learn their abilities so I could fight them better with my main (an Engineer) My Minion Necro is more over powered than a Mesmer. Once you learn how to use your fear, Necro is easy with all builds. But particularly my minion build is capable of point defense and point roaming and is almost impossible to defeat in 1v1. (And the primary point with the minion build is it is not unique. It is completely obvious to create and use. But it is incredibly effective in tournaments.)
Uhhh.. Necromancer being the hardest class to get used to.. Is a joke. They are intermediate at the very worst. (This is a completely opinionated statement.) The Professions with the steepest learning curve are easily Warrior/Engineer. I made a Minion Based Necro from scratch, and I can consistently beat 2 to 3 people at the same time In Tournaments. I made a Necro to learn their abilities so I could fight them better with my main (an Engineer) My Minion Necro is more over powered than a Mesmer. Once you learn how to use your fear, Necro is easy with all builds. But particularly my minion build is capable of point defense and point roaming and is almost impossible to defeat in 1v1. (And the primary point with the minion build is it is not unique. It is completely obvious to create and use. But it is incredibly effective in tournaments.)Particularly I am used as a Point holder in tourneys because it takes 2+ players to remove me from my point at the very least. I can stay at 100% HP while fighting most bunker builds and I am not even built for bunkering. Simply taking all the traits that compliment Minions and learning how to use Death Shroud made me top teir. There is no such strategy with Engineer or Warrior. (This is an opinionated statement from a strictly sPvP perspective and not a WvW or a PvE.)
You aren’t fighting good people then
Lets not forget entering death shroud removes “shade-mode”. I’m really regretting buying this game at this point I took a good half year break and this kitten has only gotten worse
All these views and no replies
Why exactly do I lose the buff to kill shades during the grenth event when I enter death shroud?
Funny thing is you’ll never see them post here about it.
As a necro this will never happen
Is it really that bad for a necro? I tried the class at release and couldn’t stand it.
We’re slow and our stun breaks are on long cooldowns so there is literally no way for us to get away from an enemy zerg or anyone unless you find friends
Good necro can control zergs with well placed wells
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And plague + other AoE are great too, did i mention epidemic with 12s CD?
Do let me know when any of that makes a difference when you’re alone
As a necro this will never happen
Is it really that bad for a necro? I tried the class at release and couldn’t stand it.
We’re slow and our stun breaks are on long cooldowns so there is literally no way for us to get away from an enemy zerg or anyone unless you find friends
As a necro this will never happen
Had a lot of fun in EB against DH. Was able to take our towers back and defend them pretty well. Kept our camps most of the time and was able to cut off supply lines to SMC…keeping everyone starved. Then was able to push pretty hard into SMC and DH land. But at last I can’t play forever, wish the other big WvW players would actually be on this week, we are missing over 50% of our major players in WvW. Come back!!!! lol
Marnoll Whitefyre [Gore] (SF)
Not really I enjoyed smashing you at the camps
Why does everyone chase me across the whole map XD
All of you want to kill me THAT bad?
because dat kitten /p>
Man thats stupid got kicked from EB for no reason and that allowed the SF scrubs to get their keep back.
Apparently I’m Gabe from DR HAI GUYS
The plot sickens.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
DH 141k, -29
IOJ 109k, -3
SF 127k, +31
Sarcasm, we’re gonna win. SF tears are so delicious
Gore is filled with cowards. Prove me wrong
Says the guy too scared to put on a signature and has contributed nothing positive to this thread.
Scared? I’m sorry what exactly makes you think that. I don’t care enough to make a signature on here. Still haven’t proven me wrong though.
I’m also not in Gore but you wouldn’t know that seeing as you are obviously an illiterate troll.
Implying you have to be in Gore to have the ability to prove a statement i made wrong.
Gore is filled with cowards. Prove me wrong
Says the guy too scared to put on a signature and has contributed nothing positive to this thread.
Scared? I’m sorry what exactly makes you think that. I don’t care enough to make a signature on here. Still haven’t proven me wrong though.
Gore is filled with cowards. Prove me wrong
There are 2 scoreboards worth watching. DH is expected to win by significantly more than a slight lead.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
DH -41
IOJ -.8
SF +40Sorrows Furnace has a strong chance to continue advancing and plays the spoiler role of keeping T5 out of reach of DH. Regardless, fun fights so far.
Nah
You don’t have to watch it at all, but Sorrows Furnace has been forced to keep an eye on this second scoreboard for months. If we win this week, we’re blue next week. If we come in second this week, we’re blue next week. And the majority of points we’re using to move up is from Darkhaven for not winning by Glicko’s expectations.
DH -33.7
IOJ -5.4
SF +37.8
Thats nice
There are 2 scoreboards worth watching. DH is expected to win by significantly more than a slight lead.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
DH -41
IOJ -.8
SF +40Sorrows Furnace has a strong chance to continue advancing and plays the spoiler role of keeping T5 out of reach of DH. Regardless, fun fights so far.
Nah
Is it me? oh god please tell me its me
I don’t care about being proud i care about results.
is this what they call irony?
Oh I’m gonna call you Gabe2.0
so you’re rather dumb.
I request you apologize for this insult, kind sir, for I am sure you did not intend to be so rude!
I’m just amused you guys are crying because it’s not a pushover for you like it was in the other tier. You however have never been caught in a vicious cycle of knock downs from a hammer warrior a guardians as a necro.
1: please don’t stop crying about being caught in a vicious cycle of knock downs, it is very amusing
2: are you implying that anyone actually cares that you’re a bad player? Come now, the blame for that lies solely on you and it is of your own accord that you must change that!I’m quite amused you’re still this mad
you’re implying i’m a bad player when I get overwhelmed by large groups of npcs + players with knockdowns on a profession with no abilities that can be used to escape? Oh you. you aren’t even creative.
Dh is winning this week so I’m all good with you being mad
Using your logic, you shouldn’t be proud of using a pure numbers strategy, am I correct? As a ranger, if anything, I have it worse than you, 40% less damage than any other class off the bat, stability on my elite and nothing else, man I’m mad I cant solo Stone Mist by myself, I sure am.
In other news, your argument is bad and you should feel bad.
I don’t care about being proud i care about results.
so you’re rather dumb.
I request you apologize for this insult, kind sir, for I am sure you did not intend to be so rude!
I’m just amused you guys are crying because it’s not a pushover for you like it was in the other tier. You however have never been caught in a vicious cycle of knock downs from a hammer warrior a guardians as a necro.
1: please don’t stop crying about being caught in a vicious cycle of knock downs, it is very amusing
2: are you implying that anyone actually cares that you’re a bad player? Come now, the blame for that lies solely on you and it is of your own accord that you must change that!
I’m quite amused you’re still this mad you’re implying i’m a bad player when I get overwhelmed by large groups of npcs + players with knockdowns on a profession with no abilities that can be used to escape? Oh you. you aren’t even creative.
Dh is winning this week so I’m all good with you being mad
so you’re rather dumb.
I request you apologize for this insult, kind sir, for I am sure you did not intend to be so rude!
I’m just amused you guys are crying because it’s not a pushover for you like it was in the other tier. You however have never been caught in a vicious cycle of knock downs from a hammer warrior a guardians as a necro.
because stability is not something I have outside of my elite
Implying you cant get to 38k ehp and that you’re the only class who only gets stability only on their elite, come on meow.
I’d suggest reading the wiki if you need some help understanding class abilities! Will continue helping you educate yourself so we can all reach a higher level of play (eventually! not sure how long it will take such fine students as yourself!)
? I’m not spending 30 points in soul reaping so you’re rather dumb.
One shot! Indeed
, 1 guard coupled with no reinforcements attacking me I dare say I can’t live for quite a while and I’m certainly not going to be winning any battles that way. Maybe I shouldn’t run full berserkers so much :/ .
FTFY
You’re welcome!
Just your friendly neighborhood Sorrow’s Furnace invader doing his darnedest to help the community out whenever possible!
I’m a necro I don’t get one shot I get knocked down into a oblivion because stability is not something I have outside of my elite. Nice try though mister mad SF.
Y’know, I wouldn’t mind the nightly unredding if you’d go for each other a little more.
SF keep is the last major piece of red on the map and the focus of SF’s defense. There are 11 keeps and a castle between you. You can’t defend all of that, it’s paper and easy to take.
So what do you do? DH runs around south SFK and IoJ pokes around up north.
Go get more points for yourself and let SF’s few oceanics/night owls leave and do something funner than watch a zerg scratch at the walls. I was under the impression that relative friendliness would mean no more extreme 2v1ing.
I thought DR had left this tier?
What can i say boys, welcome to the tier
If youre going to get all sooky over this and the nightcapping you might want to get used to it ASAP. Your server has enough numbers to dominate ALL maps during peak times, then you think you have a right to complain when you get double teamed? lol! You were the strongest server on reset and have been all weekend.
Knock knock is anyone home? Couldnt help but laugh when i saw DH on the other side, didnt know you lot were already through the outer wall!
Ah, but we didn’t need to double team. We 1v2ed you into submission.
Youve just stated exactly why we double team you… You cant be the strongest server in a tier than cry when you get double teamed
I love it how we get the blame for your servers lack of coverage
Sounding a lot like DR! We’re not just going to wait a keep gate for your defenders to log on…We’re going to flip the whole map. Dont cry too hard guys, the matchups only just begun, we’re in for a long and bumpy ride
And btw, that keep was ALWAYS the last thing IoJ had in the whole of WvW and we very rarely lost it, it is a great keep to defend, a horrible keep to attack.
Eh? I never complained about the nightcapping. My post’s right up there, you can reread it again if you want.
I said I don’t care about nightcapping, just that it’s boring for all three servers to do a stalemate siege on the last thing SF owns rather than taking the paper keeps from each other/going out for camps and towers for SF’s bunch.
Remember, I haven’t given you too much to le mastur trogg xdddd about. Don’t get too wild with the taunting, you might wander into the realm of tryhard. ~.^
You’re in the lead plus you have no people on right now it’s just common sense that both servers view you as easy pickings. You’re crying about it.
Y’know, I wouldn’t mind the nightly unredding if you’d go for each other a little more.
SF keep is the last major piece of red on the map and the focus of SF’s defense. There are 11 keeps and a castle between you. You can’t defend all of that, it’s paper and easy to take.
So what do you do? DH runs around south SFK and IoJ pokes around up north.
Go get more points for yourself and let SF’s few oceanics/night owls leave and do something funner than watch a zerg scratch at the walls. I was under the impression that relative friendliness would mean no more extreme 2v1ing.
I thought DR had left this tier?
What can i say boys, welcome to the tier
If youre going to get all sooky over this and the nightcapping you might want to get used to it ASAP. Your server has enough numbers to dominate ALL maps during peak times, then you think you have a right to complain when you get double teamed? lol! You were the strongest server on reset and have been all weekend.
Knock knock is anyone home? Couldnt help but laugh when i saw DH on the other side, didnt know you lot were already through the outer wall!
Lol dominate all maps, i luled. I also luled at how easy it was to wipe DH and IoJ from inner of our keep with wayyyyy less numbers
Not that hard considering really we didn’t have that many people inside your keep to begin with and the copious amounts of 82 guards everywhere not to mention Dh and Ioj fought each other inside. So really I wouldn’t be too proud of it considering that keep was really the only thing you had left at that point.
So let me get this straight, IoJ and DH fought each other inside for maybe 5 minutes and that along with “2 mane gurds hurr durr” is your argument? Dude, word of advice, tell your entire server not to run full berserkers and maybe you’ll be able to take a keep with <10 people inside it. I counted at least 50 people at the gate at one point, if not more, combined with all of the DH already inside the keep that’s quite a lot. IoJ barely fought you, they were on the opposite side of you. (If you’re an IoJ just swap DH with IoJ and vice versa because hey! that actually works in this situation.)
Why you so mad SF? Welcome to t6.
“2 mane gurds hurr durr”
I suggest running something other than full glass cannon, maybe then the guards won’t one shot you
One shot? I’m confused as to what you’re thinking 82 guards coupled with other players attacking you I dare say I can live for quite a while but I’m certainly not going to be winning any battles that way. BUT you guys are quite adorable for getting this upset.
Y’know, I wouldn’t mind the nightly unredding if you’d go for each other a little more.
SF keep is the last major piece of red on the map and the focus of SF’s defense. There are 11 keeps and a castle between you. You can’t defend all of that, it’s paper and easy to take.
So what do you do? DH runs around south SFK and IoJ pokes around up north.
Go get more points for yourself and let SF’s few oceanics/night owls leave and do something funner than watch a zerg scratch at the walls. I was under the impression that relative friendliness would mean no more extreme 2v1ing.
I thought DR had left this tier?
What can i say boys, welcome to the tier
If youre going to get all sooky over this and the nightcapping you might want to get used to it ASAP. Your server has enough numbers to dominate ALL maps during peak times, then you think you have a right to complain when you get double teamed? lol! You were the strongest server on reset and have been all weekend.
Knock knock is anyone home? Couldnt help but laugh when i saw DH on the other side, didnt know you lot were already through the outer wall!
Lol dominate all maps, i luled. I also luled at how easy it was to wipe DH and IoJ from inner of our keep with wayyyyy less numbers
Not that hard considering really we didn’t have that many people inside your keep to begin with and the copious amounts of 82 guards everywhere not to mention Dh and Ioj fought each other inside. So really I wouldn’t be too proud of it considering that keep was really the only thing you had left at that point.
So let me get this straight, IoJ and DH fought each other inside for maybe 5 minutes and that along with “2 mane gurds hurr durr” is your argument? Dude, word of advice, tell your entire server not to run full berserkers and maybe you’ll be able to take a keep with <10 people inside it. I counted at least 50 people at the gate at one point, if not more, combined with all of the DH already inside the keep that’s quite a lot. IoJ barely fought you, they were on the opposite side of you. (If you’re an IoJ just swap DH with IoJ and vice versa because hey! that actually works in this situation.)
Why you so mad SF? Welcome to t6.
Y’know, I wouldn’t mind the nightly unredding if you’d go for each other a little more.
SF keep is the last major piece of red on the map and the focus of SF’s defense. There are 11 keeps and a castle between you. You can’t defend all of that, it’s paper and easy to take.
So what do you do? DH runs around south SFK and IoJ pokes around up north.
Go get more points for yourself and let SF’s few oceanics/night owls leave and do something funner than watch a zerg scratch at the walls. I was under the impression that relative friendliness would mean no more extreme 2v1ing.
I thought DR had left this tier?
What can i say boys, welcome to the tier
If youre going to get all sooky over this and the nightcapping you might want to get used to it ASAP. Your server has enough numbers to dominate ALL maps during peak times, then you think you have a right to complain when you get double teamed? lol! You were the strongest server on reset and have been all weekend.
Knock knock is anyone home? Couldnt help but laugh when i saw DH on the other side, didnt know you lot were already through the outer wall!
Lol dominate all maps, i luled. I also luled at how easy it was to wipe DH and IoJ from inner of our keep with wayyyyy less numbers
Not that hard considering really we didn’t have that many people inside your keep to begin with and the copious amounts of 82 guards everywhere not to mention Dh and Ioj fought each other inside. So really I wouldn’t be too proud of it considering that keep was really the only thing you had left at that point.
SF mesmer from Jiro I highly suggest you close the game and re enter instead of staying glitched inside the sm wall or I’ll just report you.
what is necromancer roaming? Oh wait you can’t roam as a necro because we have no way of getting away from a group of people. SOOOOOO who wants to cry about mobilitty?
Apparently I’m Gabe from DR HAI GUYS
You arent sure?
I believe in you Gabe!!
On a different note, do the people on DR and IoJ immediately start tearing each other apart the moment they start facing adversity?
All servers have those types of people, but DR lost most of that type months ago when they mass transferred off the server.
Thats what I was wondering about. It seemed to subside when DH was having a “rough” time as I assumed many transferred, but now that we have had a winning streak, we seem to have many more that do this. Seems many are very used to winning without facing any sort of resistance.
Keep it up DR and IoJ. Trial by fire baby!
I find it quite interesting, actually
If you’re talking about me i’m not whining merely stating facts like we’re losing badly compared to last week.
Well Dh is getting spanked hard so far. Good show on DR
Apparently I’m Gabe from DR HAI GUYS
You arent sure?
I believe in you Gabe!!
On a different note, do the people on DR and IoJ immediately start tearing each other apart the moment they start facing adversity?
Yes they do
Apparently I’m Gabe from DR HAI GUYS
No thanks i’d rather just get a number 5 skill on death shroud
Dude I fought people from your guild, they are pretty terrible.
You are too kind
I see you play a thief maybe you’re the one I’m thinking of the terrible thief that couldn’t burst a single person down.
I don’t screenshot for the self pleasure of trying to say how much more numbers we have. I play the game.
Says he plays the game instead of posting screenshots to the forums. Is sitting on forums getting trolled. The hurdur is strong with this one.
Dude I fought people from your guild, they are pretty terrible.
All this talk about bugs and hacks….Getting old, QUICK. If you lose, big deal.
I was in a garrison fight not too long ago, saw an arrow cart up against the wall (wasn’t sure what was going on) and it was taken out in about 30 seconds.I distinctly remember taking a camp a few times, and seeing a bug that allowed an opposing team to take no damage while on the hillside. You know what we did? We left.
I died more times last night than I have in an entire week, but I just waypointed, didn’t come on here crying that there was some siege on the hill I couldn’t reach to take out, or 5-10 enemies hot on my tail because I was falling behind my group or trying to get out of the spawn.
You win some, you lose some. It’s a game people, not real life. The weapons aren’t real, the armor isn’t real and the gold isn’t real.
I am ready to move up a tier or face some new servers, just so I don’t have to see this whining all the time. (IoJ, you guys are pretty cool though, glad to see you out with more numbers!)
I don’t have a problem with anyone beating us fairly. I do have a problem with exploits. You’re straw-manning the real life issue. Nobody here is saying anything more than that you’re cheating at a game. Arrest warrants have not been issued and legislation has not been drawn.
We’re ready for you to move up a tier as well. We’d like to fight you evenly matched and it’s obvious we don’t have the people on this server 24/7 to do that. It’s not our fault Anet’s scoring system is goofy.
If you’re not smart enough to call out an exploit (like the one you mentioned) that’s not really my problem. There’s nothing wrong with a fair game and there’s nothing wrong in asking for one.
you’re implying you’d be winning even without that happening fact is get over it.
Hey DH thief, whoever you were, thanks for the fun outside SW tower in your bl – you got the better of me when i was fighting that sentry, that dang warrior revived you the second time, and that made it so much better killing him, you, the necro and the engie with the upleveled ranger helping me out
But when I /sit and let you revive your friend is it really classy to instantly chase me all the way to spawn with your 6 new friends? Just saying…
DH necro here please stop bringing friends to fight me when you lose horribly to me thanks DR and IoJ Though it is fun watching you all melt after I use epidemic.
As a necro I laugh at a mesmer when they put confusion on me cause I guarantee that the confusion i send back at you is going to hurt a lot more.
I’m just wondering if we’re suppose to be able to kill a guild claiming with that buff with lifesteal food and if not would it be a reportable if someone keeps actively abusing it?
I didn’t change it actually. The powers that be did.
Perhaps I’m still ironing out some of the kinks in my build but I can’t complain with the results as of yet. Still too many utilities and traits to try out. I would much rather this forum be discussing different ideas of how to build necro rather than all this OMG WE SO BAD.
Yes and then I pop my nice little death shroud which lasts quite sometime and the damage that I can do in it with life transfer. Honestly I sincerely doubt half of you that post here truly know how to play necromancers.
Zelthios, thank you for posting your build. I think there are a number of less vocal folks like myself who are willing to try and learn from those who have had successes and are willing to share.
I’m not saying this is the ultimate build that will destroy everyone you meet. Like every build there are class/trait combos that can deal with you but in group play the amount of survability i have coupled with the damage and control i have over people is really nice.
Minions are a utility skill they are not pets. They didn’t regen health in gw1 and they won’t here.
ok so you try to defend you stability claim with a 6 piece rune set bonus that gives 5 seconds of stability every 90 seconds if and only if you are at 25% health or less meaning that 5 seconds will most likely be very short lives because you are about to die. I see alot of outright lies and misinformation when I browse these forums. Honestly it’s so much i can’t be bother to attend to it all so i just skip it all together, but this statement today just takes the cake. Your runes cover your stability woes you say? no….no they don’t
Yes and then I pop my nice little death shroud which lasts quite sometime and the damage that I can do in it with life transfer. Honestly I sincerely doubt half of you that post here truly know how to play necromancers.
flesh golem
bloodthirst
decaying swarm25 points in blood wtf, missing the 3 seconds stability, the only thing that coud make a DS build semi-quasi-half-sort-of desirable…for Blood to Power?
ok gentlement, point proven beyond reasonable doubt
either the OP is a 13 year old moron that has played less than 10 HotJoin matches and thinks tourneys are the same league, or he is trolling us to the max
Zelthios, your build is so pitifully bad, that Im ashamed at one point in time I played the same class as you
I have stability with my runes. Not my fault you’re too stupid to see how this is good
the only thing similar about this and the conditionmancer is the fact i use 2 of the same utility skills. Shocking!
(edited by Zelthios.5902)
Getting transformed into a moa bird kills your flesh golem -.-