he couldve been running 25 might stacks w/ signets/trap and probs was full zerker glass cannon with thief runes, i’ve ran a build like that and i can hit that high, but im very squishy and die often.. but its fun
not satisfied with regular 7k-8k crits and good survivability w/ the stardard d/d build?
THEN MANMODE THIEF IS FOR YOU!
- LESS Survivability
-MORE Damage!
disclaimer: Don’t try this at home
(try this build)
:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlUmKO3eS6E/5Ey2jeqC5JuHGVS1UeFALA-jECBYfCiEEgkFAZmFRjtsqIas6aYKXER12bFRrWKgRVGB-w
:D
But really, i’m having some fun with this build lol, it can 1vX if you know how to survive o.o… and tons of backstab dmg
but yeah very squishy.
#ManvilRock
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@kyubi you could take d/d if you really want tom, but you’ll lose damage. why will you lose damage? skill #1 when invis gives you more bleeding damage, torment > bleeding for skill #3, while you have one skill to bleed someone with for d/d you could if you really wanted to but i don’t reccoment it, and if you want more stealth and condition removal than feel free to take hide in shadows like i said you could if you didnt want to take the venom heal :p
@phaeris thanks, and lots of people actually underestimate 2 npc spawned thieves autto attacking you, and when they’re summoned they will immediately attack you, so you have little time to react. also you can’t condition clear for forever ^^ and by
“c + d” i’m not sure what you mean, but if you mean shadow refuge, this build would counter that by jusy walked into the refuge and spamming cluster bomb on you. (sb #2 skill) :p
@stinkypants i still suggest p/d considering it does more damage, also with the #3 skill any class who has melee based damage has trouble trying to even hit you because you’ll be #3ing everytime they try.
@stlye yep but you can still kill someone quickly enough with your skills on cd / tank them as well
@siva mira i agree that it’s strong, but i disagree about it being “situational and very inflexible”, you should try it out then think about how it works
lol. someone is having trouble coping with the nerf.
@volrath you’re right, but what i normally do when thieves guild is on cd is i proc my ambush ->skelk venom ->#3 skill ->steal #3 skill and still has plenty of stacks + bleeds from auto attack’s/poison from steal/other cd’s to kill. what’s great about this build is that it deosnt rely of thieves guild, thieves only boost the damage output.also, if you want to see me play it i’ve been streaming it on twitch lately. so you can watch me play the build there (twitch name :tad44) i’d also love to make youtube vids but i can’t find anything that edits flv files :/
@messiah true, you could take improvisation, but it’s a little bit of a risk since you don’t know which one will be restored, but with quick venoms, ambush and skelk venom are guarantied to be up at the same time, but i might try that some time if it can proc the venom heal ^^ that would be useful.
and you can get at least 20 guarantied from skelk on your 3 thieves and you + 1 #3 skill, i can prove it to you if you come in to my twitch chat one day :P
yes if this build was torment only, your right about all that damage. BUT it isn’t, and it also has poison and tons of bleeds. you can watch my stream if you would like to see it in action vs theory >.<
thief = switch to sb, walk on refuge, aoe dafaq out of it with #2 skill for bleeds, thief is dead or badly injured =)
ele = chase and kill~ /reset fight if they get away
mesmer = chase and kill~/reset fight if they actually get away lol thief speed > mesmer’s
warrior/engi = keep pressure on them, then apply torment/bleed/poison (if i havn’t already used steal) after they’re done blocking~
guardian = keep pressure on them by continuing to apply conditions
ranger = yeah…
if they run away then you chase them, it’s as simple as that lol, it’s good that they run away because i get to chase them and apply free dmg while they run. the rest who stay will hopefully die ^^. this build isnt dependent on stealth.. considering your armor and health, again you can see what i do vs all these classes if you watch my twitch stream >.< but thanks for the feedback man, you’ve replied to a lot of my posts
@ rafahil the only problem with that is, you can to actually land all of shose shadow strikes (cant be blocked/evaded) also you need the initiative to keep doing that, and when you actually do that, you’ll be out of initiative and vulnerable. but yeah man that would be an excellent idea if you had the initiative to spend. and yes thieves guild does indeed have a long cd, sadly. BUT as i said earlyer this class doesn’t rely on thieves guild, it’s just a very big damage boost :p
p.s. sorry if i had any grammar mistakes, replying to this while i’m doing a fractal/not checking what i wrote ><
@Caom yeah i’m pretty sure this will be nerfed.. but i hope it wont c:
@furajir lol yeah, it just nuked your health
@makiface even if you dont have thieves guild up, you have atleast one thief for every fight (which you dont even need) and you can just apply your 3500 2 torment stacks and bleeds by yourself and get tons of damage off, even if it looks like it, it doesn’t rely on cooldown :p and for the mix of conditions, it has lots of bleeds, torment, and poison. is that good enough?
10-15 stacks from 1 thief and you + the bleeds and everything else = dead
3 thieves + you with 20-25 torment stacks = overkill
think of it that way.
So i was streaming one day and one of my viewers told me there was this op condi build for p/d with full dire, and that i should try it out. so i made this build and did, it’s been fun so far, i can get an easy 25 torment stacks and drop squishy classes from 100% hp to 0% in just a few seconds. another cool thing about this build is that it not only deals tonsss on damage, but the dire also makes it tanky, which is very helpful ^^. hope you guys like the build!
also, this is how i usually engage:
proc ambush trap on something -> activate thieves guild -> skale venom -> shadow strike -> steal -> shadow strike -> watch the 20-25 torment stacks destroy the enemy’s health (if they aren’t dead already).
P.S you don’t have to take skelk venom, i just take it so my thieves heal them selves so they live longer and can do more damage / get the full 25 torment stacks off, and i think it heals me as much / a little less than hide in shadows(also does 250 dmg to enemy). if you don’t take skelk venom then take hide in shadows and when your invisible make sure to sneak attack (pistol # 1 skill while invis) for an easy 3k+ dmg with bleeds
aLovedHater
Anvil rock
@kande thanks! i’m glad you liked it
@dusk thanks, i think the trick to d/p is to lockdown, you can’t hit all of you’re skill #3 unless they’re locked down, you can keep them locked down with #2/basilisk venom. and use lots of dodging, you have a heal every 15 second so make sure you can dodge the damage that comes towards you before it comes up! whenever i get a good immobilize i can pull off a good combo and put a full #3 skill int them lots of damage lots of fun
@interceptor thanks
This build is like the s/d build but it’s a s/p pistol whip instead. This is a WvW solo roaming build, not a sPvP build, there are other posts on this forum for sPvP s/p build. So far i’m just experimenting with build, some things i really like about it:
first, lots of lockdown for dueling! sword #2 skill and # 3 skill has lots of lockdown, and having basilisk venom really seals the deal!
second, this build has lots of damage while still having survivability! 2k armor, 17-18k vitality, and tons of evasion is very nice to have when roaming, while you still have tons of damage
Third, this is my favorite thing about this build, you can solo camps with ease! i normally just pull some guards, pistol whip spam them, then pull the camp leader, pistol whip spam them, them take the camp! i normally keep my health at 80-90%+ while doing this.
Some other nice things about this build is instead of shadowstep for a stun breaker you use the hard to catch trait, it has a 30s cd instead of 50s (shadowstep) and you gain swiftness from it. another thing is you have tons on evasion! pistol whip, heal skill, and all the dodges you have give you tons of evasion, as well as might :p. lastly you can get around the map pretty easily with all the endurance regeneration, so you can constantly roll and get switfness. you also get move speed from your runes
aLovedHater
Anvil Rock
thoughts? still experimenting.
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@undead cool ^^.i’m actually testing it , i thought it was going to be useless too but i think you actually get more healing out of it than the old healing skill, as well as damage from the trait passive! and it’s only a 36second cd compared to 30s cd. it’s been fun so far i think i’ve used the conditions on venoms more for lots on weakness/ less healing for enemy, as well as vulnerability on them and the bonus damage/heal you get from popping the venom. i’m thinking about trying roll for initiative, but i like the hard engage shadow step gives, aswell as the cc when you step back, it also has less of a cd. the 6 initiative looks really nice though, i think it’s more for continuing a fight rather then leaving it, but i’ll think about using it
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yaay a yishis fan i think about every class can solo roam, d/d ele does have high burst, and thief has high damage as well, if you’re into stealth classes you could play thief/mesmer, but thief is getting nerfed dec 10. i’m actually making a mesmer atm since i want to try something besides thief
#dagins taking venomshare and using it with heal skill/venoms gives your teamates healing, and gives them extra damage. don’t tell me it doesn’t do anything just because it’s not full glass cannon w/ shadow refuge, thanks