Guild Wars 2

Simonoly.4352:

I don’t think this build really needs PU. Torch + staff is already offering you lots of survivability, so I’d probably opt for some more offensive traits to balance things out. Compounding Power would work nicely with this build, or putting 10 into Domination to pick up Dazzling for pre-Phantasmal Warlock vulnerability stacking and then using Crippling Dissipation to improve your control.

i’ll keep that in mind, but i doubt ill swap torch/staff out, they help too much when fighting in an outnumbered fight,t hey help where pistol and gs couldn’t.

for all of you guys who thing this is a shatter build, i’ve said many MANY times in the OP that it isn’t, make sure to read the topic before you comment :s

mango.9267:

“Glass” usually specifies builds with very few defensive options, not just zerker gear or low armor. By taking PU, torch, staff, decoy, disenchanter, and mass invis, you actually have a ton of defensive options. Your gear might be glassy, but the build itself is actually on the defensive side.

That said, a couple of things: I noted you always cancel your blurred frenzy if you see it miss. Why not just go through with it? Even if it doesn’t hit anything, you get some nice evade frames. I also notice you very rarely use your shatters, but there were a number of times a distortion could have secured a stomp or a mind wrack could have finished your opponent earlier.

i would only cancel it if i had nothing to evade, and i could be doing using that time more wisely by say.. keeping pressure on the enemy. and this isn’t a shatter build, i clarified that many times in the OP. the only time i shatter is in duels, so my clones don’t kill my opponent.

Raunchy.6891:

It’s a glass PU build people. Stop trying to turn it into something it’s not. Invis+boons don’t make you some unkillable creature. He wanted survivability with his glassy setup and picked PU. If he gets cc’d he dies just as fast as a zerker shatter mesmer or zerker anything for that matter.

finally somebody who understands, thank you.

Eucalyptus.9784:

I’ve been running a pretty similar build. But I agree with the above poster that you shouldn’t be using a Staff, or really a Torch even, with a full Power/Crit based build. The only thing Torch gives you is an extra invis, on a 30 second timer. Not great when you compare it against say, a Pistol phantasm with a 3s Stun, or a Sword Phantasm alone.

Greatsword/Sword is the way to go for full Glass. Staff offers you nothing but defensive spells in this case, and if you’re full zerker glass, you don’t care about defense, you care about killing them before they kill you. Use Decoy and Blink as your defense getaways, and runspeed runes imo.

I’ve been toying with this build lately you might want to check out:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAsaRnsISjaWmGmqB3aIR1YM9Ln0Cq6iUBUyO2G-T1SDwA9Uilf/BYqUkQJ4TlGvUXpyZAAqyAQ6DAYibwDAAA-w

It’s basically a clone spam Zerker build, with a few nice touches to help you stay alive a bit longer while you pound them. I also opt to use Soldier Chest/Legs, for the extra Toughness/Vit, as I WvW a lot, and hate running back to my roaming party. You lose a small amount of damage but, I think the 9% damage increase/reduction, if you’re smart about clone management, along with the perma regen, again if you’re smart, makes you a very formidable foe with good survivability still. Null field is the kicker though. Gotta have Condi removal.

Edit: You can even drop the 5/6 points for PU, and put into Domination to get Greatsword Training and some more Power. I honestly don’t really like PU that much with GS. I try to stay at range so my boons wear off before they can even find where I popped up after invis.

torch helps a lot more than you think, like i said, many shatter mesmers use torch > pistol, its doesnt just give you stealth and damage, it buffs you’re phantasmal warlocks damage. personally i dont like GS, staff has plenty of damage, the ability to kite, its nearly impossible to play an outnumbered fight vs good players when using gs s/p, youj can say you have, you could have, but not vs good players.

DoomKnightMax.6592:

Maybe it’s just me but when I think of glass, I think of damage spike illusions like iZerker , iDuelist and iSwordsman or just a shatter build. When I think of a more tanky and survivability orientated build I think PU. But that’s just me.

having a trait that gives you boons DOESN’T make you a tank.

Zepidel.5349:

aLovedhater.4096:

Zepidel.5349:

This is not even close to being full glass. And with these rune/trait/wep choices it cant even be called zerk.

It’s just another troll PU build

Lets see… full zerker = no defense stats whatsoever, so i’d call it glass, also it is zerker, as you can see, the armor is full zerk, traits/wep/runes don’t change armor names. Now why is this build troll? because of that one trait? that doesn’t make it troll, now please quit acting like one. ^^

You are using condition weapons except mh sword, you have 6 points invested into a defensive tree to grab PU, utility runes, mango pies, no boon stripping, no vuln stacking…

You say “full glass” its not. At least call it what it is, Power – PU build. Title is false advertising.

i didnt take 6 points in defensive tree for PU, you would know that if you took the time to read me post. staff isnt full condi, same with torch, i know plenty of shatter mesmer who use torch > pistol as well, it helps more then you think.

Zepidel.5349:

This is not even close to being full glass. And with these rune/trait/wep choices it cant even be called zerk.

It’s just another troll PU build

Lets see… full zerker = no defense stats whatsoever, so i’d call it glass, also it is zerker, as you can see, the armor is full zerk, traits/wep/runes don’t change armor names. Now why is this build troll? because of that one trait? that doesn’t make it troll, now please quit acting like one. ^^

Pyroathiest.4168:

aLovedhater.4096:

i normally take 2, (phantasmal disenchanter) and yeah, i know its not too much. i should have clarified that.

Also, you seem to have forgotten to actually post the video link.

weird, the edit on my post didn’t update, the link is up now.

i normally take 2, (phantasmal disenchanter) and yeah, i know its not too much. i should have clarified that. i’m also thinking about running sigil of purity + sigil of generosity on my staff, giving me 3 ways to clear conditions.

Video link is now up.

This is my first Mesmer build/video, and will hopefully make more! These clips are taken pre patch as well as post patch, but the build did NOT change.
Build Link: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAsfWnsISZa2oG2qB3aGR1YM9L90CpCo0dUy2A-TlCBABGpETw9H67QAglyDJUCij6PAcCASRfQCm4C4JAQKgIWGB-w
Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aXWVFgmenw&list=UURJgHN3zF7W-uGZIuIJucYA

Some Things To Talk About

Weapons – I use sword for damage, but i take torch instead of pistol for more survivability. I take staff instead of GS because staff provides more survival/an interrupt/Crowd control, i also prefer Phastasmal warlock > Phanstasmal Berkerser. Why is this? Any decent player knows how to dodge a phantasmal bersker’s burst, on the other hand, Phantasmal warlock is harder to dodge because it has the same animation as your staff auto attack, and your staff-illusions’ attack, making it harder to tell which one will hit you for a lot. (also the animation is less noticeable). The only con to this is it does a LITTLE less damage than Phantasmal warlock, the difference is only a few hundred dmg, not even that if you time it with your conditions.

Sigils – I do NOT recommend you buy a Superior Sigil of Generosity, its stupidly overpriced, i just bought you major sigil for 5g, and i recommend you do the same. There is very little change between superior and major sigil of generosity. Also. yes, I do take damage sigils > fire sigil. Why? it has a better overall damage output.

Runes – Take these if you want to be able to run from/keep up with anyone else, i HIGHLY recommend these runes, or at least 25% movement speed runes.

Traits – Yes, i know, this trait setup might look weird, but it combos well with everything else, i get more damage as well as more survivability. Keep in mind this build is full zerker power/phantasms, so i wont need the Illusion traits. Also yes, i do take PU, this is because after putting 10 in Domination, 20 in Dueling, and 20 in Chaos, the best option was to just take PU, its useful for chaining stealth, escaping, and the boons help as well. I did not take it to be “Cheese”, i took it to be efficient.

Skills – I take Signet of ether because when you can manage to keep all 3 illusions up (which you should easily be able to) you regen like a monster. PS : you won’t be shattering your clones, this is not a shatter build, making Signet of ether very useful. I take blink because it’s useful is a variety of different situations. I take decoy because its useful for escaping (chain it with other invis skill and get away for free!) also, i needed a stunbreaker. I take portal entre so i’m able to escape from fights that i can’t handle. Although, post patch i’ve swapped out portal entre for phantasmal disenchanter for more condition removal, since everyone has seem to have turned to condi builds. I take Mass invis to chain invis skills to escape. (TIP: Never use it in fights, use it to escape them if needed!)

Food : I often swap my food out for mango pie, it’s very useful.

Other – This build is an all around good build. Its mobile, Has stunbreakers, lock downs, condition clears, and it has multiple ways to damage your opponent. Also, Don’t be fooled, just because this is a full zerker build doesn’t mean you’ll almost die to every burst you take. Although you will nearly die from burst damage (its zerker after all) its very easy to keep up aegis/protection/ect and staff helps a TON with kiting damage that you can’t afford to be hit by. As you can see in my video, i often stay at 90% HP because i am able to dodge damage with ease. This is a build i will be running on my mesmer for a very very long time. Also im open to feedback, so feel free to tell me what you think about this build!

P.S. I stream often and play this build often when i stream my mesmer, if you want any tips just go to my stream @ http://www.twitch.tv/tad44

Cool vid. Don’t mind the 12 year old trolls, they’ll always be here to hate on anything that comes their way.

We’ll be having a roaming session Friday if anyone wants to come!

The name is pretty self-explanatory, it’s a roaming guild on Tarnished Coast. The only requirement to join this guild so far is that you have to rep when roaming with other guildies, but you don’t have to rep if you’re not roaming with guildies, also you must be playing on the server “Tarnished Coast”. This is a very very new guild that’s looking to grow! if you’re interested you can msg me and ill give you more information. My username is “alovedhater.4096”. My character names – (Alovedhater) (J chicot) (james the thief), and if you want to join just post your in-game name below and ill send you an invite!

-aLovedHater

The name is pretty self-explanatory, it’s a roaming guild on Tarnished Coast. The only requirement to join this guild so far is that you have to rep when roaming with other guildies, but you don’t have to rep if you’re not roaming with guildies, also you must be playing on the server “Tarnished Coast”. This is a very very new guild that’s looking to grow! if you’re interested you can msg me and ill give you more information. My username is “alovedhater.4096”. My character names – (Alovedhater) (J chicot) (james the thief), and if you want to join just post your in-game name below and ill send you an invite!

-aLovedHater

thanks for the responses, and why are do you guys recommend sigil of doom in place of any other condi dmg sigil?

sorry, i had a stupid moment :d its up now

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vEAQJArYhMMacWExzBfEBApgLhHHsQCDFa8RpgOA-zUCBoOBkCAkkGITqIasl1FRjVJDQ3ATxaR1eEMa1kCYRpRA-w

First of all, this is a build that a build i theorycrafted (so i haven’t tested it yet). Anyways, i was debating between making this a D/D build or an S/D build, i chose SD because i like the skills better, and the fire auto attack does condi dmg (unlikes D/D’s fire auto attack). This build and plenty of condition clear, vigor, and condition damage, of course. Also if you’re wondering why i chose conjure earth shield, this is a perplexity build, and conjure earth shield has a few knockdown skills, as well as condition damage skills/survival skills. The reason i chose lightning flash was so it would be easier to land an churning earth, and the reason i took cleansing fire instead of signet of fire was because even though it’s 20kish fire dmg is nice, it’s precision is useless for this build and i liked the condition clears on cleansing fire. Lastly i chose congure fgs instead of gylph of elementals (for its stun which is useful for perplexity) is because i’d gladly sacrifice it for a way to escape from fights, but i’d probably use glyph of elementals in a duel.

I’d ove to hear some feedback, i haven’t even tested this build so i don’t know if it’s even good.

or you can go p/p condition perplexity and kill anyone in your path.

Seems like a cool build with lots of potential, i might use a variation of it in my graids, i’ve fought guild that have certain people to spam aoe blinds (in gvg) and it get be pretty scary.. this would be great for reviving your eles too.

Irrelevant troll thread

#closethread

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQRAoY6YlsMpupNNx0JsPRRw9IpO9peF+qWBZ2pgryH-zECBoODimkO000BKTqIas11FRjVJjIqW3AzjALAACAzcmzcmzMpAgZaE-w

Enjoy your 20-25 stacks of torment.

if it was a pu mesmer, use stealth and play them until they make a mistake, then capitalize on it and kill them. also watch their buffs and make sure you arent backstabbing a block, made sure you’re backstabbing then
if it was a shatter then dodge their stun/chain lock, and your fine
is it was a power build then dodge the stuns and dont let them get a combo off, also dodge their GS illusion, it hurts and cripples if they have a trait for cripple.

and their mesmers, their clones = free CnD’s and you get free stealths from d/p anyways, i main D/P and i find it easy to beat pu mesmers, it takes a hell of a long time (sometimes) the only thing that i find annoying is that right when you pop out of stealth, the mesmer’s illusions (gs and duelist) will instantly attack you, so eat the dmg or save a dodge roll. if i wasn’t clear or if you ahve any more q’s feel free to ask

scabrous.7835:

DP is cheesy only in 1v1s and only if DP-user decides to abuse BP+HS*x once gets beaten to low HP. As long as DP is played ‘as it was designed’ it’s a well-balanced and competitive set. In ordinary WvW-ing DP is nothing to worry about as there are many counterplays to it but in 1v1s e.g. Obisdian Sanctum or OP’s eng fight – these situations are perfect example of why people cry that DP is cheesy aka ‘HP low? Gonna BPHSHSHS and reset lawl’.

All you have to do with D/D is ‘HP low? Gonna CnDCnDCnDand reset lawl’.

RedSpectrum.1975:

SoLeciTO.3490:

Is the same . . . my dear friend.

D/P is not cheesy, it is the best weapon set, every skill has a use.

Is harder to play D/D . . . yes just a bit harder. Actually sometimes is easier for example against mesmers or multiple enemies.

What i mean is that people must stop confusing good builds or sets with cheesy.

Is a no ending story in this forum . . . a guy come with a great build and every unskilled person start asking for nerf and making this forum a bad place to discuss real important things.

Nope. I agree with you DD overall is a bit tougher but is better for some areas, but my posts still stands. Saying DP is cheese is only saying DP is cheese, you are assuming that equates to DD being pro, where then is my opinion on SD SP etc?. I for one have no opinion on the OP’s video, but I feel like the OP isn’t the only one being judged here

Anet put D/P in the game for a reason, and that reason was so people could play it, NOT so you and others could go around ridiculing and flaming anyone who uses it. end of story, now go argue about how much you dislike d/p on another thread please.

Hey guys this is the s/d p/d thief build ive been playing recently! its pretty good, i’m enjoying it more then just regular s/d.
Build – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQRAsY6Yl0MpwpdPx0J8PNhs9onqQei7hTVUNVXBuC-zEDBYLBEnBCpBmsAgIAiKI0pPFRjtMsIasKGY6TJV5SQ2dQZlUAjqMC-w

Video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7z_5knsRi0&feature=youtube_gdata

what do you think of the build? might give it a little less hp and a little more armor

you’re very unpleasant kitten amonatory. constantly watching over the thread about the player you don’t like must take some real dedication.

thanks daxxter, and i know there is an eotm thing redspectrum o.o

dual pistols arent good on thief, atleast in wvw/pvp, and there are things to use in pve, i suggest you pick engi instead. p/p is viable there

Thieves do fine in dungeons and pve, just go full glass, signet of malice, S/P, and spam pistol whip til everything dies

we aren’t the same matchup (SoR). feel free to watch my stream if you wanna see how i play http://www.twitch.tv/tad44

and i wasn’t wondering

thanks, i’ll keep that in mind

the dmg hits a the same time as when you teleport to them, taking you out stealth. shadow shot is different, you teleport, then the bullet catches up to you. i prefer the extra dmg + heal rather than to save it for as long as possible until i need a gap closer, i always have shadow shot for a gap closer anyways.

thank you DustFinger, i completely agree.

and AikijinX, i used 10/30/30 w/ mug vs the engi, the reason i used steal after backstab is because it adds dmg and it heals me. Also please explain how i can stealth → steal (doing dmg) and when i do dmg i stay in stealth and then → backstab? not possible.

TL DR; because Mug trait.

it wasn’t meant to be a troll thread kadin, trolls just kind of happen on their own :l and dustfinger, i use stealth because anet gave thieves stealth, so therefore i can use stealth, sorry if you disagree with me. i play plent of s/d too if that’s what you’re implying i should do. Gartz, i’m actually getting into pvp more, 1 more rank til i get the dolyak finisher :o and i dont use my bow unless im running because the time it takes to swap back to my d/p is too long, i could be dead by then, but thats just the way i think.

i used IS for might. nothing wrong with that, its not like i needed it to be up for some other reason

I don’t really want to read the whole thing, but it wasnt a lucky hs ^^ i know how to fight a mesmer, don’t worry bud. it was an easy fight and i didnt take it seriously

whats wrong with targeting your enemy anyways karolis? if your complaining about when im trying to blinding power then leap back towards the enemy, i don’t use the short hs in the blinding powder, it’s easier to time it when i blinding power, leap out, walk in, leap out again, that way i can always proc the 2 initiative trait.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoaVlYmSO3eS6E/5Ey2DfqCJKuHOlR1UaFoJA-jUCBYLCikFBiKAM9pIaslhFRjVtATVSpW5KQeDLrWKgIWGB-w

Welcome!

There’s nothing with using D/P. anet put D/P in the game for a reason, and that reason wasn’t so everyone can hate on it and be-little anyone who uses it ^^

it wasnt an easy time, when i fight engis like that its mostly me waiting for the engi to make a mistake so i can capitalize on it. ^^

i bet half these people didnt come for the video, and i bet they didnt even watch it, they came to complain. go make a complaint thread pls ^^

thank tao!

lol i guess i’m not a real man then

i didn’t just ‘troll people and kill a ranger’. i fought a ranger, engi, necro, mesmer, ect. and i stealth’d for regen, i’m not stupid enough to fight without survivability. Also i keep them targeted becasue i can hit them with a HS to do dmg and still go into stealth at the end of the leap. but thanks for hating, the first song was 4 corners – michael urgacz vs. sean tyas

yay another kid who hates on D/P ^^ i like that you said my D/p is cheap but Perplex engi isnt, hate all you want, but do it on a complaint thread, thanks. Btw i use black powder offensively, but im not stupid enough to drop one on an engi so he can get free aoe dmg. its best against war/gaurd and some other melee classes

decided to make montage! the fights could’ve been better but i made it in a day so yeah.. hope you like it xD

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omxeHkq7e9Y&feature=youtube_gdata

that build is fun to play ^^ you should try swapping out the immobilize venom for a thief trap, if you leave a trap on the ground, wait til the skill is off cooldown, you can proc the 1st trap, place a 2nd trap and proc it, then thieves guild for 4 thieves + yourself :p nice vid ^^