Guild Wars 2

I think those that are doing the holy trinty that most other mmos go by zerged past that info on the quest to level and be fastest and the first 80 of that profession and race then they forgot about all the content they zerged past so they could keep up with the gear grind …. maybe we ought to go to the whole trinty style to help them out

Like most mmos we like to eat our young …. up and coming players even though when i went thru there were 4/5 of us around and it was and always will be a group event i want you to solo it and then i will tell you how easy it was for me

The inflation isnt due to just to bots/farmers being banned it has to do with drop rates going down outside of dungeons and the disappearance of nodes for resources then there is also suppy and demand that every mmo has

Very well said OP
I still think there is big market out there for the group that enjoys the open world and horizontal progression just too bad GW2 decided to follow the group and now they need to find a niche that so many others before them found to survive or continue to loose players

Tolmos.8395:

Someone brought up a really good point earlier in the thread.

Yes- Legendaries will always be BiS, and maybe ascended will be the only tier they add… but what level legendaries and ascended gear? =D

Say I grind out my level 80 legendary sword, and then the xpac releases and now max level is 90. Sure, a legendary weapon will be the best… but it might be the new level 90 legendary they just introduced, which were added alongside the new level 90 ascended items they just introduced. =D

“Legendaries will always be best in the game… kittenOLOL”

hehe

Sorry just had to pop in one last time this is a new game new ideas for this game there is no always, there is no previous experience to say this. After all this is not GW1 so how this company performaned there was and is null and void. And well if you go by other MMOs the one that has been around the longest WOW never updated their legendaries so they were not always best in slot. As I said in previous posts I m not on the dev team this is not my game to do with as I please what they decide they will do. And as poster said they stated it would match the tiers at the current character levels and not the projected character level with an expansion, so she has a valid point.

Astralporing.1957:

deborah.2068:

Nah they said legendaries will always match best in game

Look at what they said, and what they didn’t say. They said the legendaries wil always be bumped up to top tier. They never said they will be updated in case of level increase. And since apparently what they suggested is not important as long as it didn’t get said explicitly…

True who knows would hate to do the grind for it and then find out there will be a level 90 legendary with expansion I know my last mmo didnt bump legendaries up they stayed with their stats from the content they were obtained with but they were never grinded out they were a really really rare drop and there was usually only one weapon that was a legendary in the expansion any ways had fun discussing with you all off to bed … Thanks for conversation/discussion found it very stimulating

Nah they said legendaries will always match best in game …. but they are only weapons you still have legs chest helm ect ect that as of yet I dont think there are legendaries out of

Prob new zones will be in expansions like say with the expansion 2 new zones one 80 to 85 the next 85 to 90 with the same karma vendors like there are now in zones also there will be 2 new dungeons in each zone then when there is boredom like there was with the ascended gear they will add a new dungeon so forth and so on with each expansion the same thing there after wards but who knows

look at the empty zones we have now I feel really sorry for all those refer a friend if their friends arent helping them with the respawn rates the way they are and the de set for high player population right now

Happens all the time in mmos prob also soulbound and the only thing you can do with it is sell to a vendor for whatever you can get. Not really a issue.

mulch.2586:

They were talking about this last year.

But realistically, we’re looking at a long time before they do an expansion.

Generally speculation about expansions involve wondering what new professions and/or races will come with it, Cantha or ??, that kind of stuff.

The talk in this thread… makes it sound like you hate to play GW2. Oh no, I might have to level another 10 or 20 levels! Hey, if it’s exploring a new continent, I’m all for it (when the time comes)

I thought this was just that speculating and discussing what we think might happen with a new expansion if there will be a new level cap and what will happen. Am I pro or con dont really care, what will be will be. I m not on the dev team and it is not my game to do with what I please. We can only wait to see what they will do with their game and then form our opinion and do what we must at that time and what best suits us, be it leave the game or continue to play it will most likely be an individual decision we will have to make at the time. Maybe some speculate and discuss with others to form their decision and they fill it is the right time now to do so to be prepared. But who are you to say it is right or wrong, when it is not your decision to make but theirs.

Aelaren.3784:

Have anyone tried to repost it in Bugs? since now we have AMA answer and all?

They are just barely getting back to people about the south shore event and saying they will be sending something out next week how long do you think they can shuffel their feet one this

marnick.4305:

There’s only 1 reason for level increases, which is to reset gear for newcomers. If there’s no gear gating, level increases are not necessary.

Which begs the question… how much gear gating will there be?

vertical progression, new gear, higher stats, and feeling of accomplishment

you just reached the highest vertical progression you can with ascended gear but you want more vertical progression … simple….. raise characters level now you have all the tiers available for vertical progression

Lalangamena.3694:

I hope there will be no level cap increase, 80 levels is enough…

increasing level cap is what make me leave the games…

I m with you but that wouldnt be profitable considering they have already stated they wont be adding more tiers and you spend more when you grind/farm w/e you want to call it more gear

Yea well this keeps the lemmings going new stats more dps oh lookey there a monster to kill omg he has 1 billion health lucky i got higher stats on my new gear so i have higher dps its just a numbers game they play on the people running to get new higher stat gear cuz after all they are soo skilled rather boring if you ask me

Mkalafut.1273:

deborah.2068:

More or less they will probably handle it the same as most mmos you will level your character to 90 then you will have the same gear you just worked your toon thru only a 90 level tier masterwork rare exotic ascended then legendary

A little punctuation goes a long way. I’m having trouble reading what you posted, but if I’m understanding it correctly I think I agree. It makes no sense and goes against all of the unique features of this game by essentially adding a gear treadmill.

Idono about gear treadmill but usually most expansions new character level new gear for that level character at that level in those same tiers used before welcome to all the other mmos went thru bc wrath cata and now mop is out was hoping not to be in that boat anymore but good word plays in the ama they actually wont be intoducing a new tier just new item level

as for puncation its late i m tired

More or less they will probably handle it the same as most mmos you will level your character to 90 then you will have the same gear you just worked your toon thru only a 90 level tier masterwork rare exotic ascended then legendary your gear is at level to your toon they didnt say they wouldnt be adding new gear just not adding new tears so now you work towards the 80 level gear new expansion 10 more lavels on your toon and new 90 level gear for your toon you just work thru the tiers that they have intoduced

Probably some one playing the ah running prices up to make a sizeable profit, just another aspect of mmo for you. I wouldnt expect it to go down but go up as the need increases. Supply and demand alls fair in mmos

I wonder what people in Simms online are trying to acheive and what their rewards are like ….. just wondering

was getting 7/8 in orr events in 2/3 hours but this was when they were being done at that rate I really dont see a problem with getting them
get a good guild group together and go farm

Ursan.7846:

lacrimstein.5603:

That review is from September 18th, so it’s actually 2 months old, 3 weeks after release of the game, when everyone believed the game was great. A lot of people’s opinions have changed since then.

Which is kinda funny, because the major things pointed out in the review (cooperative play, dynamic events, lack of holy trinity, beauty of the world, ease or reaching lvl 80, how fun PvP/WvW is) haven’t changed.

hmm lets see cooperative as long as you are level 30 fractals know what you are doing and meet gear requirements we are cooperative, dynamic event well if you can play like you are 10/20 people in a empty zone they might still be fun might be able to open a temple to buy exotics, lack of holy trinity well have to say that hasnt changed yet but i have seen posters missing their healing role, beauty of the world well we have all been to orr enough said, ease of reaching lvl 80 yes and what now there is nothing to do, pvp the maps are stale, wvw culling issues that havent been fixed for months …. yea i guess we still have all of them

Wow …. I guess I just got reemed and told …… but you really think a company thats made billions has been going for over 7yrs is worried about GW2 in its current state ….. one word delusional
and has also seen their fair share of competition come and go

Karizee.8076:

Boy it makes them nervous when they see how well GW2 is doing

I doubt WoW is worried about GW2 Most of the people I came here with are already back and playing and enjoying. But besides that wow is guaranteed a 15 month subscription fee a month regardless of anything they can kinda count on that a GW2 kinda depends on some one buying gems regardless of the numbers playing if no one buys their gems they are losing money every second they stay on line

Asumita.2174:

WoW, although it has its own problems, has the magic formula, or you could call it the “wheel”. Anet tried to re-invent the wheel, and ended up with a square. As they shave the corners down more and more, they will eventually end up with a wheel similar to WoW. Sad to say, but that is the essence of a successful mmo.

For the most part WoW does have it problems left there in hopes of a game that favored keeping people out in the world seems that wont happen here headed back to WoW or Rift pay a flat subscription fee rather then get nickled and dimed to death here sounds pretty good right now

Well honestly asking people to leave and go away and so forth hurts the game due to it being a non subscription game, wow, rift had the subscriptions to carry them thru times of drama now you have a company relying on a mood to buy gems or not after all a person could easily pay the subscription to another game and play this game off and on and wait for a change that makes them want to invest here So wether its trolling or not who cares do what makes you happy

I like the game as well and they did a really good job loved all the zones and the community feel it had before the drama with fractals but for the most part until issues are setteled and see the direction they are going to take the game I wont be buying gems I dont really like gated gear games soo waiting to see what happens before I invest

I dont see why not it isnt a subscription based game, so you can play anytime. You will probably have to farm the ascended gear by then. Just pop in every so often maybe just for the monthly events to get your goodies and then come back when you are ready to play. I have never had a problem, even with subscription games, always got my account back. Problem with them tho unless you pay the subscription you cant play, here you can come and go as you please at any time.

Cosmetics to me well unless you have the best to put it on is over rated I mean its like putting a wrapping over kitten in the end its still kitten so like I said a gold or two but i do like the karma idea

xiede.8543:

deborah.2068:

No I wouldnt as has been stated by soo many too many bugs and Anets throws in new dungeon and new tier of gear instead of fixing the game content they have out there. They think telling you we are working on that issue be patient will surfice. I see alot of talking and nothing being done except new content. Yes nodes are made available but the amount of materiel you need is excessive. Its just too grindy and the one feature I would have recommend to friends is gone that everyone was on even footing now to be the best you have to grind a dungeon. So just too many negatives in the game not enough positives there to sell the game on

I’ve only been playing since Sunday. I haven’t hit any bugs yet, so what kind of stuff do you encounter? One of the things that recently annoyed me greatly in WoW was the fact that throughout MoP there are tons upon tons of quests that completely bug out badly if you do them in a group (me and my wife level characters together so we hit tons of them).

One of my rules of online gaming these days is actually simple… I don’t seek to be the best anymore. No matter what gear I have there, there are always going to be people that are better then me… just as there are going to be people that are worse then me. Most of the time, changes in how I play will make a more significant difference in what happens then changing around my gear to be slightly better.

You don’t need to be the best. I know that Blizzard balance the first raid around having an ilvl of 463, even though it is possible to have a much higher ilvl (so better gear).

I would hope that ArenaNet would balance along a similar lines. I would hope that if they add more Acended, that future content additions are still balanced along the lines of a player having Exotic (what I would consider the average player to have). The people will full Ascended… maybe it will be slightly easier for them.

Yep… and the gear will effect PvP. But again, there are going to be people that are going to be better then me and there are people that are going to be worst. I will never be the best.

Once I got out of my head that I had to be the best, all the grinding and all the other stuff, stopped being an issue. I just played for fun.

i myself have saw challenge skills bugged out that i have revist several times in month period before it was working properly on revist to same challenge with another toon and it is bugged out yet again friends have told me of rogue and mesmer issues in wvw they have yet to be fixed they asked my opinion i gave it i m sure if you look thro the forums you can find more
ps it was more then one challenge skill that this happened on but i would have to say its like the annoying bug wow had on their brewfest race game just annoying but easily skippable but theirs was a holiday event gone in a week or two and this in game content for gw2

Ryuujin.8236:

Looria.8019:

kKagari.6804:

No its not, I love the grind for the gold. It gives me a sense of character progression.

This statement makes absolutely no sense. Grinding money doesnt give anyone any sense of character progression.

Psst. like sound travels faster through water than it does air, sarcasm doesn’t travel through the internet very well

deborah.2068:

I say if you are going to spend that amount of gold on a item and the amount of farming you would have to put in in game farming the gold it should match the stats of the current top gear Ascended cuz otherwise why buy it there is better out there

Because the skins frequently kick kitten If you’re willing to throw down 120g on some armour then you’re probably not going to mind throwing down another 15g on top of the line exotics to transmute it into.

I’ve never heard anyone say “Man I’d love to buy that T3 armour, if only it’s stats didn’t suck”

That might work for some but I m in to Vertical progression now and well lets face it Ascended gear will be the way to go with that so they would have to decrease their price to maybe a gold or two for me even to consider Cosmetic value of it

No I wouldnt as has been stated by soo many too many bugs and Anets throws in new dungeon and new tier of gear instead of fixing the game content they have out there. They think telling you we are working on that issue be patient will surfice. I see alot of talking and nothing being done except new content. Yes nodes are made available but the amount of materiel you need is excessive. Its just too grindy and the one feature I would have recommend to friends is gone that everyone was on even footing now to be the best you have to grind a dungeon. So just too many negatives in the game not enough positives there to sell the game on

I say if you are going to spend that amount of gold on a item and the amount of farming you would have to put in in game farming the gold it should match the stats of the current top gear Ascended cuz otherwise why buy it there is better out there

Masterpyro.4310:

Asmodeus.8491:

Yoshihito.5928: I am going to keep this civil because I think this is a good thread, and I don’t want to get it locked up. When you sarcastically say that you “love how stat cap people want everyone to bow to them,” I must ask you if you have ever heard the story about the pot and the kettle? If not, ask google about it.

Masterpyro.4310: Before the Ascended Tier chase was introduced to the game, there was a tonne of stuff to do with your toon post full exotic/ perfect cosmetic; however, none of it had any ability to improve your toon (except for trying to max out all crafting skills maybe). In other words, if you already have full power, and perfect looks, how else can you improve your toon?

What you need to see is that better gear is not a real improvement. You and your new mob opponents grow stronger by the same ratio, so your bigger numbers only serve to give you the illusion of improvement.

Unless we are talking about a stat advantage in WvWvW. If one has stronger gear (full Ascended) than one’s opponents (full Exotic), then one will be able to beat them with less effort. My question here is if you start the race early, and win, how can you take pride in your victory? Its like playing Warhammer 40K with a 2000 point army against someone who is only using a 1800 point army. That 200 points (one extra unit) gives an unfair advantage.

Honestly, if they handled WvWvW gear the same way they handle spvp gear, I think this whole issue would go away (at least it would go away for me anyway.)

Partially, honestly the only thing left for me to do was get the legendary and I probably would have stopped playing after kicking some kitten in wvw with my sweet looking weapon. Now with ascended I have stuff to work for. I agree that their implementation is a bit against their manifesto though. Ascended gear should be higher stats imo, otherwise I wouldn’t bother because i already have the skin I want. But what should be different is how its obtained. It should be craftable with items obtained from fractals dungeons (which will be for sale on the TP for those that dont want to bother). Same as exotic, its just new content for everyone to consume in their own way.

Some people are complaining simply because its a new tier, which doesn’t make sense. They should have been complaining from the beginning that there was any tier higher than level 1 gear if that’s all they cared about. God forbid they add 1 more level, they are allowed to and encouraged to add more content. This game cannot just sit here the way it is and still have people playing 8 years down the road like current WoW or GW1 fans do/did.

I m complaining that it is gated to one play style seems to me dungeon runners complained and got what they wanted new higher stat gear. It I think would have been received by the gameing community as a whole better if there had been several ways to get these items and just not in dungeons. There is a flaw in this if it had been set out in the world on a Karma vendor or as a drop of some sort or very long quest chain ect ect these same people that claim they love to run dungeons would have been there not in that dungeon cuz its easier. Now comes the claim I m more skilled I deserve well let me say this I have jumped thru those hoops before have earned the new bestest gear I am now old and tired and dont want that but want the same reward for I deem enjoyable and rewarding and that needs just as much skill and work.

I feel for you guys partly why i m soo apprehansive about the ama they had they seem to say alot but have no follow thru or not at all

This is effectively another WOW wanna be game instead of org and stormwind we have Lions Arch pretty soon they will have all their add ons LFG and recount and everything else they want and the zones will lay empty the same way they do in WOW and just like WOW the players that play will dwindle cuz they either have all the gear they want from dungeons and nothing to do or got bored Then they will think why play a knock off version of the game I ll just go back

Here we are the people that wanted new more challenge stuff and new shinies mainly a dungeon get it but can they be happy with that and let Areanet focus maybe on some other areas of the game that are in desperate need of TLC spvp wvw the zones before you start spamming with needs again I have heard we need lfg we need addone we need portals to dungeons we need gear score ect ect there are other aspects of the game besides dungeon running If you havent looked they are falling apart and are in need of desperate attention people that once played for those other features are starting to leave and not looking back so be happy with what you have for a month or so and enjoy plz

I dont want LFG I could care less about it you have new content the fractals I have bunkus I want a new zone or the new zone they gave us revamped I need new content with new exciting rewards maybe you ought to let some others have some focus in game before you start asking for more

I just want good cheer to all

Bluebird, It is a mute point to talk with someone that cant understand if the only increase in stat was agony and they never brought this out in the game yes but when you cant acknowledge the stat increase all around does make it gated gear

Eugenics.6953:

“Except, this isn’t life. This is a game.” It’s still human nature, you can’t change that.

It didnt become human nature until the community started turning a blind eye to it and accepting it …. I went to a catholic school in my classroom two little boys harrassed the teacher steadily made her life a living hell they did it for the laughs they got from the class on one such day the sister from next door saw this she came in tore in to the two little boys, verbally only, had the whole class laughing at them for about an hour or so those two little boys were the best behaved in the class after… that peer acceptance is a great tool.

Areanet has created a big mess, from my point of view some of the verticle progression people dont feel accomplished unless they have something that most dont have or very few have. The horizontal progression people favor gear not being gated and being available to everyone so no one feels left behind. So how do you make the two groups happy?

Gratz to everyone that gets one I for one will wait till they fix the problem they have created cuz I dont know if I will be playing in another 6 months if a solution never comes afterall all the people that missed the november event still havent got their reward and I wont show support til I see change but look forward to buying one after I see that

Eugenics.6953:

Thats life, we love to hate each other and it’s not going to change anytime soon.

It depends on the acceptance bad attitude gets in the community if everyone accepts and turns a blind eye then yes it will never change and continue but if lets say a gaming community decides this behavior is unacceptable and wont be tolerated then it would change after all everyone even the bully wants to be part of the whole group and not playing in the sandbox alone

Kudos, this needed to be said and I m glad you took the time to do it. My family plays and my mother is 65yrs old she may take a little longer to grasp the consept of some things but she does want to learn and she has taught me things along the way. She wont touch a dungeon group simply due to apprehension of how she might be taken. I can tell you my bf is very skilled, skilled enought to carry me who hasnt looked at gear since I left wow, my nephew and my mother thru a dungeon but he wont touch a group simply from seeing how others treat people in them. So not only are you getting rid of who you would call noobs but some really great players that would benefit your groups when you display bad attitudes.

Well the game is all about freedom of choice and you could just choose to do what you have fun doing but if you choose to rather leave cant stop you from doing that after all it is your freedom to do soo I hate dungeons but if I want the Legendary I will have to tolerate some grind after all if its worth having its worth working for such is life

Personally my plan and that of my friends, we will stick around to see when and what kind of grind they come up with when they put ascended gear out in the world and wvw this will decide alot for us til then well hell its free to play if its takes a long time we will just resubscribe to one the games we played before and split our time and keep are wallets closed to black lion trading til we know if we want to stay and invest in the game It all comes down to their solution

If you think I was disrespecting you well that is your opinion I stated I didnt like either wvw or dungeons but it is a requirement to get that legendary it is your choice to get it if you find that the means to get what is required is too great then dont do it but trying to change it too favor you to the point that you dont listen when they tell wvw is considered pve by the devs and continue to say it shouldnt require it is just that qqing imho

I dont like dungeon running or wvw. To me dungeons are like hitting my head against a wall over and over again Simply we try to four man it with one being my mother who is 65. I much rather wvw and with map completion you get badges and the jump puzzles so its way easier then doing the 500 or so dungeon runs. So why QQ about it, I didnt hear the wvw players QQing

i really enjoy games that bring the masses together in open world to accomplish goals be they group or individual but since the segregration of the community i ve been feeling less and less part of GW2 community Oh well maybe there will be enough left to bring back this feeling when they decide to devote some time to developing a new zone progression area

Truely ….. keep debating the issue if you may for most running the dungeon and getting the gear is not fun what they do find fun is sitting in a certain area and having the average player fawning of them this is the experience they want not of getting the gear and having the fun in the dungeon and too do that they have to be able to bring that gear outside the dungeon. I think what they dont understand with this change and the uproar it is causing that average player base is going to dwindle down in to nothing and then well those same people wont like the game anymore even tho a new dungeon and set of gear is released cuz there is no one there to appreciate how skilled they are then they also will run off to a new game thinking they can find the masses there to show off their ever growing skill leaving a broken game in need of fixing there are alot of games out there some survive it Rift Swor maybe this one will to who knows

Tiger Ashante.1792:

I haven’t bothered reading this entire thread. After the first few, you realize it’s the same crap over and over like most of the posts on this forum. Arena Net this, Arena Net that.
Just wanted to say this: have you people ever thought Arena Net may not be in charge here anymore? That some “Higher Force” is pulling the strings? And that as much as they would love to respond to your concerns, they can’t? Read about Nexon and NCSoft recent issues. It may enlighten you.

Regardless of who is making the decisions all 3 will reap the rewards wondering how many will invest in games from these companies if they drop the ball here and leave a bad taste in your mouth