Guild Wars 2

IMO give the outnumbered server a buff that means something when faced with being outnumbered like making them more powerful, then if servers want to practice the art of zerging by feeling their numbers up more power to them if you want to practice the art of havoc then you move to a server that does that style play or has more even numbers and we as players have the choice of which style play/challenge we want to experience….so if you like wandering and playing havoc and you move to servers that practice zerg and continue to play havoc on the server you dont get the buff and play well still doing havoc on the zerg server you are truly skilled…. if you are on zerg server facing people with the outnumber buff then you can think you are skilled cuz lets face facts if you are in a zerg….. do you really know if its your playing style or the 20 with you

but lets face it there is a game that already did this and it made for some exciting play cuz even if you went in outnumbered, you still had a chance at winning or at least participating w/o just being someones loot bag……. if you were the truly skilled player you could take on 5/8 players and still come out alive although the 5/8 players were probably low skilled at playing their toon but it made it a more fair fight on both sides

Simple fix make event items only drop for people in level appropriate zones then level 80s that are truly there to enjoy the lower level zone can enjoy the zone as they say, those just there to rampage the area for quick event farming there will not be a incentive unless their in a level appropriate zone …… of course then you would hear the cry that they took away the advantage of being a high level and are limiting their fun since they in all their glory would already be in the level appropriate zone for them if it wasn’t such a struggle for them to be there in the first place

p.s. just came back to the game from a long long hiatus to see if anything changed =( still the ….. selfish people only worried about getting theirs…. people buying tons of boxes then crying how it wasn’t worth it and they didn’t get anything nothing really has changed still the same cookie cutter event style with new graphics

When you bought the game it clearly stated no trinity, it is the only thing clearly unique in the game. Dungeons have clearly had most of the upgrades with the patches and now you want them to redesign the game to make it easier for you to run a dungeon. When will this playstyle ever be happy with what they get. If you arent happy with the way the game is well you do have a choice, there are plenty of games out there with the holy trinity.

I would like to share data but due to my perceived drop rate on loot i have skewed my view on playing the game and have no data that is recent or up to date

Its just a causality of war that Anet is declaring on gold sellers I think they are doing a good job in trying to weed them out. Its hard to have such a war without having some colateral damage done and I m sure it will work itself out, but Kudos to Anet for taking the time to try to combat gold sellers.

=/ they should just bring back holy trinity since most cant grasp the concept of playing a game without it

I have to disagree you read about changes if you think its something you might like to try you log in. There are many ways to get info on a game then just playing, for example my hubby watched youtube about deminsions in Rift and now he is excited to try one but he doesnt want to rush to the content he wants to level his toon first and then sink into it, thats his style of game play. Where as me well I like to be all over the place and dabble in this and that but thats what I like. Gehenna payed for a nonsubscription game and he is free to play it any way he feels like putting it away for 6 months to accumalate alot of content might be what he likes not your place to tell him how to play.

I guess what I see is its like waiting for the end of expansion nerf to get all the acheives just to say I have it shows no skill or that you put any work in to acheiveing it but will say I got that acheive. But I do have to say the people putting massive real life money in to game are only promoting the gold sellers and hackers to hack more accounts to keep up with the demand which in it self is sad. And before you say everyone buys gems to get the gold think about it. I for one hope Anet looks in to these accounts that have bought alot or produced alot and starts banning accounts that have bought their gold from gold sellers and not the gems as they were supposed to. Probably would cut down on the bots and hackers alike taking the consumers away.

Shrug …. nothing mentioned other then the guesting, which was mentioned at release of game, to make play in the world better and I m not a fan of running the same dungeon over and over again, no matter the increase in diffuculty

Groovy.6749:

Aelaren.3784:

subscription fees : Seriously?

Absolutely. You know what you are playing for. If the game turn to the direction you don`t like anymore, you stop paying. That actually makes developers take a notice of the ingame problems they can easily ignore in the game that require only initial payment. That is why I personally think monthly sub would be better for GW2.

If you start playing a subscription fee game, then you should know that the grind train stops at every station and it’s the only way to get around. You will only encourage more grind. I obviously can’t back up my statement with any hard evidence (since I can’t predict the future duh) but from experience of playing sub fees games, better get ready to go choo choo because we’re all going to be chasing the dragon…

If your worry is the developers not taking notice of your gems purchase (AKA the GW2 equivalent of a subscription fee)…trust me they do, any semi-decent company keeps a really good eye on their finance, how much is coming in and how much is coming out. If players stop purchasing gems, the devs will notice. Just saying.

GW2 is no different then playing a subscription based game. To get best in slot raids/fractals, all games have their pvp, to craft in both games you have to farm materials. Difference is the amount you pay subscription you pay one flat monthly fee where as GW2 all depends on how much you decide you will pay 2 win.

Had a friend biggest complaint she had ….She payed more to play GW2 then a subscription based game. Only one problem she hates dungeon running and likes stuff out in the world. A week after she found magic find gear they nerf the drop rates out in the world to add to that they start decreasing the nodes. She had one area she said had 5 nodes the last time she was on there was 1 node left there. She decided the game was unrewarding for her playstyle and moved on to a subscription based game and is happy once again. Its all a matter of choice and what you find rewarding if you dont find it rewarding move on to something you do find rewarding …… keep in mind this game is free to play you can always come back to see if they have made it more rewarding for you, other subscription based games you would have to renew your subscription, think about it thats why you see a spike in players during GW2 events.

Just two points:
A) if it wasnt about making as much money as possible, they could have sold the pets in a package of 3 and/or made the pets tradeable or able to list ah for those that got multiples
B) if they were truely interested in making players happy or addressing their concerns why is there a post with almost 1k replies and close to 35k views that no moderator has yet to reply we see your concern and are we looking into or trying to address this concern
Just curious…..
PS I also relize you can’t make everyone happy all the time but i also accept things for what they are……..

also the post is like a month old now

The only thing left in this game thats is unique is the fact of not having a trinity. Put in the trinity and it becomes like all other games out there. I know you all say it would be nice to have a tank out there to control the multiple mobs, I can for one say this is obtainable if you have a truely skilled group. My hubby truely skilled could always control the crowd but then the rest of us in group werent trying to nuke them down either, it isnt a dps race or zerg, I didnt see a time limit. I think the question shouldnt be how do I turn the game into what I like but if this is what the game is and these are the mechanics of it do I like them or can I accept them as they are and still have fun or do I need to find a game that offers what I do want and play it.

First I would like to say I think you are a truely amazing person and its inspiring to see some one that is pushing boundries to accomplish goals that are not very easy for them or even tailored to fit them……… I personly think you have a good point and wouldnt mind a easy mode say that isnt timed that could just give the acheive and no chest at the end

If you were talking about a subscription game and people had dropped their subscription this would prob be a thing to do to free up space for new players to have higher populations but this is well free to play so they could be back to play at any time and deserve to be on the server they picked

I wasnt, the strangest thing to me is my account wasnt even made on this computer. To change the password which they did, you have to have the games seriel number. I have no idea where they got that info to change the password seeing as the number wasnt on my computer in any way.

Now let me tell you what would happen with some one with a aggressive/take care of business personality. He buys that Xbox, sees it on sell a week later within the period it will take returns, he ask the manager for the refund of the 20% and the game, the manager states he wont do it, you clearly tell the manager he will do so or you will return the Xbox get your money back and never shop there again and continue to argue. The manager will cave give you the 20% back and the game just to get rid of you. So whats the point of this thread again……..

Lets take a look at a worse case, you buy the gems to get the gold to buy your gear then Omg Omg whats this you were hacked and everything is gone even that legendary item. You contact cumstomer support you are told we are very sorry and understand the fustration you are going thru unfortunality we dont have a program in to roll your account back we are working on it but by the time we get it out you will have straightened all this out. So good luck. There are worse things that can happen then being in outdated gear.

Out of 4 friends and me:
one attended twice looted twice got the mail
me attended looted once got the mail
one attended looted no mail
two tried to get in couldnt due to not being able to get a overflow server both got mail
me and the one attending with no mail attended the same event together makes no sense i was flagged to get the mail and he wasnt

Jornophelanthas.1475:

And do you honestly believe that screaming bloody murder is going to strengthen your case?
If you are in a restaurant, and your steak is too rare for your taste, what do you do?
Do you call a waiter or the chef to tell them that you are not enjoying your dish, and ask them for a solution (like a different steak, a hamburger instead, or your money back)?
Or do you stand up and start shouting to all customers that this is a bad restaurant because they can’t even make a simple steak, that you are insulted by their inability to cook, and that everyone else should be too? And do you argue with other customers, telling them that they are wrong for enjoying their steaks?
If you are eating out in this restaurant, which of these people do you want to have sitting at the table beside you?

There is a saying here the squeeky wheel gets the grease. Most have already tried pointing it out nicely. Call the waiter, tell him your order is wrong, and he says sorry he can understand you are fustrated and irritated but thats just life deal with it and walks away…. do you continue to go to that restraunt. At least the people that voice their concerns and stay playing the game are just trying to see if it will get any better before leaving permantly or just showing up for the events.

Does it really matter that much what others think. If you like and enjoy playing the game then do so. Some have issues that prevent them from sinking time, energy and money in to the game, but those are their issues. Me, personally, I refuse to sink alot of time, energy and money into a game that cant reset your account when its been comprimised by a third party. My issue is its a waste of time, energy and money when there are other games out there with the same content that offers this. But as some say it is free to play and a nice break game here and there. But the security of knowing that if the account becomes comprimised and i can be set back is worth more to me then anything this game offers. But as I stated these are my issues, there are other issues for some, and some that have no issues with the game think its the best thing ever. Really this is something you have to decide for yourself and do whats right for you.

Hmmm ….. Man up and stop whinning might be a start…..

Siphaed.9235:

deborah.2068:

Yes congrats for being the top video game choice in a news magazine. Its really too bad about the VGA and not winning a thing …… Maybe next time

And yet Time’s choices have more sensibility than that of the VGA’s.

There’s some flaws with the VGA choices as well as their current set up:

1) DLC has to either be changed to “content expansions” and include expansion packs to MMO’s just like the DLC for single player games, OR…there has to be a Game Expansions section added (I’m talking about head to head to head Storm Legion, Riders of Rohan, and Mists of Panderia).

2) Borderlands 2 has only 4-player online co-op, yet it won the “Best Multi-player Game”. Honestly, with it having ONLY a co-op, it shouldn’t even be in that category and instead replaced with yet another shooter…or another MMO, or something with real multi-player in it.

3) Best Downloadable Game is redundant to Best Indie Game, thus they should be merged.

4) Best Driving Game should be under Best Individual Sports game, another redundancy.

5) If they have a “Best Graphics” section, they need a “Best Artistic Design” section as well. Journey would have won that, or many other more “artistic” games than just graphically enhanced games.

Overall it seemed to be the same ol’, same ol’ from the VGA’s. More than anything it seems like a flashy chance to get some actor, nearly unrelated to gaming in any way possible, to stand up on stage and push bad jokes. This year, Samuel L. Jackson pushed not bad jokes, but instead crap puns and references to his past movies. Only really great thing of the show was the live musical orchestras that played video game music during interval parts.

Being on Time Magazine’s list as top #1 game of 2012 above Call of Duty, above Halo 4, above that joke Boringlands 2, and other games only says how great the game really is. But it doesn’t need an award to say that, as it’s known already.

P.S. I’m sure Time factors in things like value of content vs. costs (minus subscription). After all, it’s mentioned in the guy’s spot that Torchlight 2 is better than Diablo 3 because it’s same gaming style at 1/3rd the price. That’s beside how fun the game is, how the combat is so interesting, that going back to anything else is nearly impossible, and how explorer friendly the game’s world is.

I m sure customer support alone took a big hit to GW2 consideration as the number one game alone but hey the next time I go to buy a new video game I ll be sure to look at what Time says is a good buy or good play. Sorry you are so hurt over the VGA to me, all games have the supporters and haters. Me I dont hate GW2 just saying they need to still look in to fixing alot of things and do things better.

PS I guess Time didnt take customer support in to their consideration when looking at their number one game

I dont know, most people said that skins/armour/looks werent worth anything and they needed more stats on gear to make it worth while so I think they are working on that gear right now.

Yes congrats for being the top video game choice in a news magazine. Its really too bad about the VGA and not winning a thing …… Maybe next time

The issue was about the event its self being broken, people d/cing and not getting the reward. Some people getting the reward 4/5 times being greedy not helping the problem due to fact taking up spaces in overflow so others that just wanted it once couldnt get in ect.. Anet tried to put in a fix, a fix yet again broken sending out rewards to people who have already gotten it more then once, people who got it once and yes not sending it to people who never got it. Its a issue of the haves and haves not, every community wants to be part of the community and even if it is just a small sliver of the pie they still want it to be part of the crowd. So complaining/whinning w/e you want to call it, they are entitled to no one should have to suffer a broken fix due to a broken event …… just saying

Its a growing number of us that have got hacked. As of now they have no way to restore you account, they expect you to pick up the game and build it up again where some one has left you depleted of resources. Keep in mind tho there was a poster that stated he had been hacked twice in a week, so its a constance threat that you will build up your account again only to be hacked again. Now some will say its key loggers ect but 1) the seriel code that you use to change the pw has never been used on this computer they had to have got it from some where since it wasnt from me then who 2) I got 3 emails asking for acceptance that some one else be allowed on my game but not one email stating that my pw had been changed but I did get a email notification when I changed it to get it back 3) nothing but my gw2 account was touched not my other gaming accounts, my email accounts, or bank accounts just this game. The whole thing stinks but as far as it goes other games will restore your accounts in these situations, I see no need to waste my time with a game that doesnt have this same feature.

PS not one of the 3 mails asking for account access were opened or deleted.

Well imo if they are doing this purely to accomplish a goal that needs to be acquired in wvw then its not griefing ….. if its being done purely to sit around and laugh at the fools trying to do the jump puzzle then its griefing

Chorel.1720:

Please remove WvW kills from the monthly then. Not interested in doing it.

You don’t HAVE to do the monthly.

I wouldnt mind doing the dungeon runs but could I please pick the dungeon I run?

bojangles.6912:

This is why I wish Blizzard would go back to their Vanilla/BC ways and make people work for things. Vanilla and BC you had to put in time and effort to just get attuned to be able to enter one of the raids. Then you also need to farm rep. It was more than just dailies then to get rep. You could get it by a lot of ways but yeah it was still farming. But this took up a lot of time and always gave me something to do along with many others. I never logged on and just sat there and tried to think of something to do like you do in most mmo’s today. Also make the end game raids like then also. None of this LFR, normal and hard mode stuff.

I know I am talking from a pve perspective but, well, GW2 is becoming more pve when I thought it was supposed to be pvp.

Yes I know also that people now-a-days don’t have that time anymore but you know what, those same people are complaining about nothing to do also and how easy everything is. I think gaming companies will be surprised that they may not lose people going back to this way and also won’t need to feel the need to pump out tons of new content every other week because it will take time to do things. There is a reason WoW’s numbers grew how they did from Vanilla and BC and started dropping during Wrath and Cata.

Not only with the end game but they also would pump out lots of events and even a couple events where the whole server needed to participate in (Opening of the AQ gates and unlocking Sunwell and the territories there). That was so much fun.

If people don’t have the time and don’t want to put in the time then go play single player RPG games like Skyrim.

This isn’t just about Blizzard and WoW but used them as the example since they are the only ones to do it right in Vanilla and BC. I would love other mmo game to be like that even if it is from another company.

Have to disagree Vanilla and BC of course you are going to have growth its a new game and the only of its kind. Wrath was its biggest subscription time and growth but gear was available to everyone thru justice points and valor points. They went back to gated gear in Cata and now MoP and the subscriptions and sales have steadily declined.
The problem here is everyone wants to be rewarded for their time playing in unique ways not just dungeon runners.

Reikou.7068:

To be honest, people go into a dungeon to get things done. Specifically farm tokens.
No one wants to bother wasting their time with a noob who doesn’t know his left from his right.

Stop being selfish, the world doesn’t revolve around you. The community is nice if you are nice to it. Honestly all I read in the opening post is “I’m a special snowflake but nobody else thinks so. Community must be bad.” The faster you drop this notion, the faster you’ll grow up.

To be honest best in slot gear, being 80 doesnt mean they know what they are doing : game mechanics, dungeon encounter, boss mechanics ect ect….. I mean just look at the forums where people are argueing about the holy trinity in GW2

Truth be said imo its the best in slot grind and elitism that ruined group play. I mean who wants to be saddled with someone that knows it all and its got to be my way or it isnt done right.

PS especially if its someone that thinks the holy trinity is effective in GW2 lol

See what I mean, My hubby is very skilled He took his mesmer not in full exotic set, Me a glass cannon no gear to speak of, my mother on a necro not geared, and my nephew level 55 in there. We enjoyed the hour we spent in there. But he is one of those truely skilled players and had played GW1 and unstands the game mechanics.

Truely if that is your game style and how you like and enjoy to play continue. My post was only to give the op a fresh view and maybe a alternative. Dont take everything so personal.

PS yes we did effectively 4 man it

Apathy.6430:

No it isn’t, Justice, Resolve and Courage are virtues.

But yes, people shouldn’t completely write this game off yet…but I very much encourage people to check out other games in the meantime if they are bored.

Whether I’m active or not, I’ll be checking in for the next year or so either way.

Agree with you picked up an old game in new expansion to see the changes they have placed in the game and I’m having fun with that. I check in to see if changes have been made but as is now its just boring to play for me right now.

First of all the zone was designed imo for people to be there. I can say the zone, having been there when people are there and when people arent, is more rewarding with more people there. Try on the weekend I hear there are more there on the weekend.

While in all mmos, exception might be horizontal progression mmos but have never played one, have their elitist and the packs of lemings that follow right behind them. For me I just laugh at them and move on, they are the virtually the dog chasing their tail nonstop they will never hit the top of the penicle. By the time they get a full set of best in the slot gear the devs throw better out there for them to chase. And the only thing the devs are doing adding stat to gear equals adding hp to mobs bosses ect. So you are not more strong. If they think it shows they have skills most of the truely skilled players I have met in 7yrs of playing never worried about best in slot cuz they were skilled and didnt need extra stats to carry them and well who wants the headache of a grind with grumpy elitist that think they know everything. With downscaling it would be near impossible to one man anything until years down the road. So look at who is saying it and take pleasure in the fact that you arent the one chasing their tail or the leming following them. The moment the group isnt fun anymore walk away they can get another take heart in the fact that you wont be wasting you time or theirs and find a nicer group that is fun and casual and does the dungeon for these reasons. Truth be said might ask this at beginning of run and leave if people arent there for that reason or show a response that is trended towards elitism.

why dont we add belt buckles, spell threads, weapon chains and leg armours also.

Servanin.5021:

deborah.2068:

From my view point, this isnt every other mmo. Most mmos the mechanics of the boss are the same each time you farm the dungeon making the dungeon a mindless set of routine encounters, spilling out the same dribble. You dont really have to be prepared most things that happen in there will have a counter easily done. In GW2, you dont have that you have to be prepared. Say last time you had a couple of players that knew what they were doing and used their crowd control spells to controll the boss (somewhat), it is goiing to be alot different from a group purely trying to zerg. Each encounter can be a new encounter depending on your group make up.

It would be great if that were possible, but in a 5-man group, a champion gets 5 stacks of defiant any time someone inflicts CC. Most CC lasts for 1-2 seconds with a 40+ second cooldown.

Much prefer fighting veterans. Its not like you can chain CC them, but it feels more how it was intended to be.

I m not a dungeon runner, have stepped into maybe two dungeons but I have read the strat book, played outside in the world and read the forums and what I wote is just what I saw as a old raider. I can make suggestions as to such if you are running with a more structured group, set up a rotation of ccs, use them spareingly, meaning use them as needed, if some is too close. If its just one boss try ping ponging such as one takes the aggro and runs then someone else picks it up and go back and forth. Most of these ideas are old tho, used when I would pick up groups in WOW and we didnt have a holy trinity makeup. The most fun night I had there was doing slave pens during BC with 3 hunters, me a shadow priest, and a fresh 70 pally healer with no gear. We used our strengths and all we had.so anything is possible, if you think ir thru.These days I only run with family and hubby is skilled and geared enough that he pretty much can carry us. Even me cuz I think is fun to play a glass cannon.

P.S. I think it comes down to if your thinking inside the box or outside the box. Most MMOs are structered with not alot of give, GW2 is nothing but give I would definately experiment with alot of different options. But that would also depend on your group knowing their toon and all the abilities the toon offers.

Isslair.4908:

Yeah, doing dungeon with a competent group gives you very different and more rewarding experience.

With random low-skilled people it’s unenjoyable chaos most of the time.

Exactly…… you get it, you really get it

From my view point, this isnt every other mmo. Most mmos the mechanics of the boss are the same each time you farm the dungeon making the dungeon a mindless set of routine encounters, spilling out the same dribble. You dont really have to be prepared most things that happen in there will have a counter easily done. In GW2, you dont have that you have to be prepared. Say last time you had a couple of players that knew what they were doing and used their crowd control spells to controll the boss (somewhat), it is goiing to be alot different from a group purely trying to zerg. Each encounter can be a new encounter depending on your group make up.

My server is in the second tier, and do you really want to hold up others game play so you can get a acheive again how is that fair.

I dont wvw but had no problem completing it with time you can too but after I spent my time doing it to have this acheive how would it be fair at all for them to take it out

kiba.2768:

this falls in line with anet’s anti grind policy. i admit that at times there are grey areas when it comes to interpretation or implementation of their manifesto, which as we have seen, has evolved, though the wording on the document stays the same.

if they wanted you to grind out gold, they would have left all those mechanisms alone. the fact that they did away with these methods proves that they don’t want you sitting in the same zone for hours at a time, whether it be making gold or doing something else. granted, player expectations vary wildly in both directions for what is considered fun. some love grinding, some don’t.

anet has repeatedly shown us(in both blatant and ninja-like forms) that they want us to explore the world, experience the richness of the story-telling, the art that was created and the music composed for our enjoyment.

this is my personal opinion….but i feel like the hardcore gamers want what they want right now and if they don’t have it, they throw a tantrum, which usually involves ranting here on the forums and has a collateral damaging effect on other players who read their posts.

if you’re no longer having fun…why play? this game has a rather large audience from casual mmo player to grindfest mmo player to dungeon crawler and people after ‘phat lewtz.’ anet can’t please everyone so invariably, someone will get angry. if those players don’t vibe with this game…go play something else.

Agree whole heartedly if the game isnt fun just find another game or something that is fun to play

Mirta sorry you are in a Gwinch mood it was a joke and meant to be taken as one

Well here goes Why dont you all put down GW2 if its a game you want try Rifts they have something like DE or another mmo, maybe spend some time with the family for the holidays any ways do something else besides GW2, I do know the hurt and discouragement you feel being second choice for a dev to dungeon runner but that is how most mmo works usually a new game cant see that until the game is on the brink of destruction but you have tried for over a week for them to hear your cries they just dont care

We do need something to spend our karma on was the exotics but now what do we have to buy if your goal isnt a legendary

Tolmos.8395:

deborah.2068:

My thoughts … If you comparred GW2 with other verticle progression they cant compete for long others have 10/25m raids and better costumer service bugs are fixed with in hours a day or two most dont take 3wks in their november event fiasco they barely have told the people the will receive something next week I can remember Rifts first raid when it came out they had a 3 part event but some couldnt complete the third event (due to level) for acheive thru no fault of their own they had the acheive before the event was over. If they want to be a verticle progression mmo let them be judged as such I say and well they are lacking in big ways

Yea, Arenanet messed themselves up here. As a unique, horizontal progression based semi-sandbox MMO Guild Wars 2 was amazing. It stood out as being distinct from the other games in having several awesome features, chief among them being a stat plateau.

But as the gear grinder, vertical progression based WoW-clone they are striving to become, they lack greatly. There are other games that do a far better job of it.

And unfortunately it won’t have the effect they are hoping for. The content locusts will eat through this content more quickly than they can put out more, while the more devoted GW1 base will migrate back to GW1 OR realize they actually like vertical progression and move to one that does a better job.

All that’s left are those apathetic to the situation, not caring one way or another. I wonder how much of the population that group constitutes…

=) agree with everything except one thing the apathetic group ….. lemmings will follow one group or another

if you want to take down a power house you dont take them down by trying to do what they do best and been doing for years you take them of their platform and make them fight their own weakness

My thoughts … If you comparred GW2 with other verticle progression they cant compete for long others have 10/25m raids and better costumer service bugs are fixed with in hours a day or two most dont take 3wks in their november event fiasco they barely have told the people the will receive something next week I can remember Rifts first raid when it came out they had a 3 part event but some couldnt complete the third event (due to level) for acheive thru no fault of their own they had the acheive before the event was over. If they want to be a verticle progression mmo let them be judged as such I say and well they are lacking in big ways

Was one afternoon messing around with family, in game my nephew says he would like to do a low level raid, we out level the raid by 30 and out gear by tons. I had just finished doing this raid, over and over weekly with my love for my rogue trans set. So knew every boss, well took over 4/6 months for the whole set to drop, and that was doing it weekly. We all zoned in and I start to type out the instructions. My nephew takes off like a bat from hell pulling the boss. I calmly type “Dont Zerg him we will all die.” Well he kinda is a know it all….. well in his mind only of course and continues with his plan to zerg. I type as fast as I can “Boss mechanics dont allow a Zerg you will kill us all” He types back “Dont worry I got this.” Boss dies and well we are instantly vaporized and one shotted. He swears “what the kitten happened.” I calmly tell him “if you dont get rid of eggs before boss, you are isnstantly one shotted and he respawns.” moral Not everything is a zerg fest sometime you need to learn the boss mech even if you are elite for the content

Robbyx.1284:

They did indeed remove the “holy trinity”, trouble is they replaced it with just one class….DPS…..anything else and you are just fooling yourself….healing ele’s are a waste of a slot, “tanks” are absolutely worthless as they cannot hold aggro.

This game is solely about DPS and how much you can inflict that DPS on mobs.

the game needs recount right?

Mrkraken.6791:

I wanted to see if we could get together some general information from various players about their experiences up to this point; after 3 months. I’m also curious, for each, if they feel properly “rewarded” for their time spent; a sort of ROI, relative to loot. Hopefully many will input their experiences, to help compare time spent vs. returned luck / wealth. I would like to also include various other identifiers to further refine results.

Basic Format:
1. When did you begin playing? (post bw’s)
2. how many hours total do you have? (/age)
3. What’s your most gold banked so far?
4. Do you have a max level character (s)? (number if more than one)
5. List 1-3 areas / zones / events / tp; where you spend most of your time for income.
6. Do you mainly use MF or not?
7. Have you ever got an exotic weapon from a mob? If so, how many and total?
8. Have you ever got an exotic weapon from a chest? If so, how many and total?
9. What’s the most number of rare weapons you have looted in one day or 8hrs time?
10. How many rare or exotic weapons do you “expect” to loot in one hour of time?
11. How many lodestones have you looted total so far? (all types)
12. Do you craft? If so, do you have a 400 crafter? if so, how many?
13. Do you sell your looted crafting mats? (specify optional)
14. Do you feel your return, (in terms of items, completion, income, etc) for your time, has been worth it?
15. In ONE word, what needs improved most; from your perspective?

I know, some may not want to answer so many questions; please feel free to respond to less if you prefer (or have not the time). Thank you for any that participate here.

So, for me then.
1. Headstart day one (25th)
2. just over 1100 hrs (2 accts, 800 main)
3. 120g (just hit!! yay)
4. Yes, 4 – 80’s
5. Cursed shore, AC, CoF
6. MF 85% of time, yes.
7. Yes, 1 exotic (lvl 76 trident on my 1,930th event)
8. Yes, 6 exotic (2 MK, 2 Karka, 2 FoTM)
9. most is 13 rares in 8 hours
10. I expect 1 per hour (sadly)
11. total of 6 looted
12. Yes, Yes, Master crafter (8 max)
13. No. Excluding some T5 cloth, leather and dust
14. Not really no.
15. LOOT

1) so long ago I feel so ancient I would say in game time prob 150yrs old
2) well bf was up in 900 followed closely my mom 800 and i was at 700 but catching up with until recently
3) me 26 bf 70 plus when i dont make him buy me pets and dyes and such
4) finished my 4th my bf level deletes them but he has 5 and my mom 5
5) my bf it was wvw and orr but he isnt playing anymore hardly me i just roamed around when i was on i made he come and follow me
6) we had started to and was really starting to enjoy the game and then after last game patch it seemed to just not work anymore and now the game is back to drab
7-15) well i never really paid attention my bf would cuz he needed to farm the gold for us to play with but loot is so far down that its a waste in his opinion. The game was extremely fun when were getting loot and their were dynamic events and people in the zones and stuff going on now that there isnt the game is drab and boring but its free so we invested in Rift and the expansion and are going to start back there the 4 of us we can check back here from time to time cuz its free if they ever get time enough to make it fun for the casual player again we might be back or we might continue to split or time between subscription games and this no need staying here beating our head against a wall I mean wow isnt casual friendly have like 15 80s there beat my head against a wall there thought this would be different was for a bit and then they lost it but was just like when Rift came out got like 2/3 max toons there so what ever will be will be looking forward to designing my own jump puzzle in rift in my own zone lawl prob wont be worth it but fun for a while