Skin that you can use in PVP combat is a easy one. Not sure why ANET hasn’t done this yet.
They say they want u to be able to recognize enemys by their armor light/medium/heavy.
I respect them for that but they should find some other ways to profit from gem store then.
This will be a sorry excuse for a leaderboard. They should have put a proper tournament system in place before they put a ladder in. I truly cant understand what they are doing anymore, they went from a QP system to something thats even worse, a mix tournament ladder. I hope the 20 ppl that will be on it enjoy it.
What would the top teams train for exactly? theres nothing. We need all of this stuf + some competitive tournaments with prizes, until then its pointless.
I have very little faith Anet will do custom servers right, i expect an unfinished lackluster customservers which will take another 6 months or more to polish out.
Nice survey but i wish u wouldnt put the which class is the strongest/weakest in but instead ask us to rate each one on its own, forcing us to choose one isnt very accurate.
Also on which feature should be first priority u should add incentives.
I played this mesmer build less than a month ago and killed high level players 1v1 (i didnt test it in tournaments vs good teams as my team stoped playing and i only soloqued with it but im talking about 1v1 and ability to hold a point). Phantasm can crit for 5k (with soldier amulet and signet and defender they are very hard to kill) + u can have 3 of them out + constant retaliation on all phantasm against aoe + phantasmal defender to eat alot of dmg + constant regen, in teamfights its weak vs conditions (frankly its not the best for teamfights) but 1v1 i had no problems vs necros or engis. U can try it out for urself ( http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAW8clwzSq3QTrGadJhJF9G5nZA9ojWApCquUBcD;TsAA1CtoQygkAJLSOkkItsYYxGCA). Also without mesmer and portal u cant leave the point because most of the time u will get decaped by an ele which means u either have 4 ppl in a teamfight vs 5 or u risk getting decaped everytime u try to leave close point.
Ele (full bunker s/d) cant bunker a point aswell as guard for the fact he gets decaped much easier , now 1v1 he is stronger but teamfights definetly not. The support of ele has very shortrange and he has no blocking abilities.
I dont think all the top thiefs use macros but cant be sure. As to your argument about point capping, thiefs arent used for that as i said they roam between close and mid and maybe occasionaly go for a quick decap on far, they arent ment to 1v1 except if they have a chance to 1shot someone and disengage if they fail. They are very strong in coming in a fight and taking out the biggest threat. U cant hold points if u dont win teamfights, sure once they become a target they cant do much but try to disengage but when they do it right it can quicly decide the outcome of a fight.
I dont know what the situation on NA was but almost all the best teams on EU had a thief in their composition and it is definitly a strong member of a team, also thiefs werent that rare on EU in general (i speak in past tense because none of those teams play anymore as the competitive scene is dead).
dont agree with u on thief mesmer and guardian, all have a far higher score in my book. Warrior can be decent in a good team altho not as good as some others…
please use the 3 important parts to this game and explain why you dont agree with those 3 scores i would love to hear your reasons so i can better justify my scores i gave them to make sure we both end up on the same page. you can also add in the team fight and 1v1 capability also that adds a little to the overal score you should give them.
Mesmer has the ability to portal back to point which means with a mesmer u have 5 man on middle team fight + timewarp makes him probably the best thing u can have in a teamfight, also ppl can portal back with him so the defending ability is very good. If u wana talk about 1v1 point defend i made a phantasm build that can beat everything 1v1 except maybe the minion master necro and invis condi thief (yea i know it sounds funny but its true i tested it quite alot), with it i can even kill the mighty d/d valkyre ele which is my main btw. Also shatter mesmer is very good for dissposing of bunkers because of his burst and boon removal and cc. Deserves atleast a 9.
Guardian again almost a musthave proffesion because of his range of support, unrivaled ability to hold point, stomping/rezing, cc…. all this makes him very strong in teamfight where u have to have a guy stand on point, alot of teamfights have been decided because one team had a guardian there and the other didnt from my own expirience.
Again deserves atleas a 9.
Thief is the best roamer between home and mid because of his speed and ability to 1shot ppl which also makes him strong in teamfight when he can quickly put 1 team on defensive. Incredibly strong on kyhlo because of his shortbow mobility, also on other places where he can disengage fast. Can also prevent stomp with shadow refuge and quickness stomp/rez. Would give him and 8/9 but 10 on kyhlo map.
dont agree with u on thief mesmer and guardian, all have a far higher score in my book. Warrior can be decent in a good team altho not as good as some others…
Take a hint, it was obvious in sotg that we get nothing this patch, the only thing that is coming seperate from the patch is leaderboards and everything else we have no idea when but definetly not this month, i thought it was more than obvious but i guess ppl still hold out hope.
If you guys think that every developer on a team is supposed to know every single ability, then you haven’t played any MMOs before this one or just haven’t been involved enough.
He’s a balance specialist (their words) so i think he out of all ppl should know what he is balancing. I also think it takes more then just numbers and timing abilities and such to balance, they should spend some time playing tournaments, hotjoins, and watch streams of top teams playing to get the feel of what the balance is like ingame. From what i saw they dont have a good enough understanding of it.
Next time Xeph should ask Karl if he knows where the mists are, seriously i think u could get hotjoin heros who know more about pvp than this guy. At the end there he wanted to say something about what classes are popular/strong in tournamets after he repeated xeph statement about mesmers/thiefs being popular in hotjoin but he rather stoped because he had no idea and he just looked confused. The only time he seemed like he might know something is when he mentioned pve.
Yes i almost fell from my chair when i heard that spectator will be just for custom arenas first i have no idea why they would do that. Or the fact their balance guy seems to be completly clueless about pvp. This ppl should either play some tournaments or watch streams from top teams (of which there are none left).
I was a very dissapointed with how unprepared the devs were especially Karl who was supposed to be there to give us some insight into class balancing and where they are going with it but he was actually reciting us descriptions of classes and in the end we just got a few minor details about thief mesmer and warrior, the rest of those 30 minutes or so was a waste of time. I didnt get a sense they have a good understanding of pvp class balance and on how to improve build variety in all classes. They had alot of good players more than happy to give them feedback on what needs balancing and ideas on how to do it but they seem to just keep to their isolated bubble.
Also dissapointed to see i probably wont be coming back to gw2 anytime soona s i dont see anything being done that would bring competitive community back in the near future.
Im glad to hear they have a plan of making a marketing push after they implement the core features but common give us some sort of competitive platform to work with meanwhile. By this i can only speculate competitive scene will be dead for another year if they dont pick it up.
March patch is for wvw, u can be happy if we get a ladder and a few tooltip fixes and underwaterskill bugs fixed, thats max we get this month.
Greedy pvp players got their huge february patch and they still want more.
Can you ask them why so little resources are being put into PvP when this is a sequel to the best PvP mmo in which 50% of the players if not more were dedicated PvP players?
This really should be asked (in a nice way) as i feel this is really what it comes down to at the end and they shouldnt get away with a bullkitten anwser, ask them a follow up qestion if they try to get out easy They deserve to sweat a little bit at this point
Its pathetic really that so many ppl would use this but its even more pathetic Anet doesnt give enough kitten about this to do something, ITS QUITE SIMPLE IF U CANT FIX IT THEN DISABLE TORNADO IN PVP FOR kittenS SAKES.
It also has voice comands so u dont have to be on ts to communicate with team…
As the core game itself gw2 is alot better but as far as features and competitive scene goes that game is lightyears ahead which in the end makes it more fun to play im sad to say.
The only way i can see gw2 coming back is if once they implement most of this things they do a free to play period to get in fresh ppl + sign out a tournament money reward like that game did to get the competitive community a reason to come back.
Yep most ppl i know arent playing and some are waiting for this SotG including me to shed some light on what is goin on and if this game will be worth playing anytime soon. Im shelfing gw2 after 6 months and playing other games until i think its worth coming back unless i become to invested in some other game in the meantime.
Slaping on a ladder on the current system would be a joke and i sincerly hope they arent considering doing that, they need atleast a soloque first. Even then ranked team tournaments wont be enough to keep teams going, playing for chests 6 months in isnt gona cut it. I dont get it they are suposedly going for esport somwhere along the line but they arent doing anything to keep the teams busy, theres no competiton going on. It is strange.
As far as i can see there is almost no more competitive teams (if u could ever call us that) in EU that i know of that still play regulary so i think its fair to say the competitive scene is now dead. From my perspective this all started with the transition from 8 team paids to 2 team paids and was finished off with this new/old system of free tournaments with collective mmr for solo and teams that throws us all in the same pool which means teams no longer have a seperate system for competitive play, this is bad for both teams and soloquers for obvious reason.
As flawed as the old paid system was it atleast gave us some sort of reward (QPs altho useles were better than nothing and also a little bit of gems) but also a place where mostly steady teams played so the chances of having some good matches was high. The fact u gave us this new system whithout any sort of explanation and also no plans on what u are doing with this is incredible, i have absolutely no idea what u are thinkin or what is to come. For the first time since this game released i feel absolutly no desire to play. I think this next Sotg is ur chance to start changin things, talk to us straights give us some concrete information of what u are thinking and what u are doing.
All the things that were talked about (soloque, spectator mode, custom arenas, balance/more builds, better rewards/incentives….. ) are important but arent enough to keep teams going. I think if u would like this game to have a healthy community of good active teams u need to give us a seperate tournament system. My idea for it is that we could have once a day a tournament where all the teams could sign up and it would be an elimination torunament, at the end 1 team would win and u could give the top 3 teams tokens for which they could trade in for special armor or legendary weapons for pvp, something like the tokens u get from dungeons. This would also have its own seperate ladder that wouldnt show how many times u won but maybe a win/lose ratio or something along those lines so it wouldnt be impossible for new formed teams to climb it later on.
Anyway to sum up i think this game has the best combat system out of any game i ever played but the tournament system as it is right now is horrendeous and so are the rewards and incentives. U roll out patches without a single sentence of explenation to go with it which is very frustrating to say the least. What were once the most dedicated players and teams are now mostly gone. Im still hopefull things turn around but as it is right now i dont think ill be doing much more but an ocassional soloque match, mostly because there is nothing else to do in this game :/
1. When will we see more viable builds for each profession?
2. Are they putting in some better rewards so that atleast we have something to play for. The competitive teams right now have nothing to play for and the situation is actualy much worse than when we had 3 round paids apart from the ques…
Plz ask something about this because competitive scene is nonexisten right now and i think its because we no longer have a format thats there for the top teams (i mostly just soloque right now), it could be solved by having daily/weekly tournaments or something….
3. Do we actually have servers in EU or are they all located in USA, and if so why not just join NA and EU sPvP. (im judging this from the pinging and latency…)
Id sooner kill myself then go join solo 1 more time, 4v5 more than 50% of the time and vs premade. Cant wait for the ladder to show of my ranking i grinded up with this.
Guards can bunker a small point much beter than ele and has beter team support so i think its not fair to compare them in that way.
And there are classes that can catch an ele, warrior and thief….
Also apart from staff our range abilities are kitten and very easy to avoid.
100% agree with this especialy the daily/weekly/monthly/yearly tournaments. I think they would do wonders for the competitive community and also for casuals who would probably love to watch and see the best teams playing eachother. Really hope we get this sometime in the not so distant future.
Its very hard to find good team and even harder to start one but if u really master warrior i think in the right team can be very strong so dont give up and just try to find a good team is all i can say. When u do fid one this game becomes so much beter, its sad tho so many good tams have left and still i see nothing changed to bring them back.
Its good to see a thread like this but i think it would be even better if Anet gave us a subforum dedicated to forming teams for tPvP. Meanwhile im glad we atleast have this for now.
ArenaNET give us some weekly tournament with cool prizes so the top teams have something to be excited about and the rest have something to aspire too. We have lost so many of the top players and nothing seems to happen to prevent this or get them back. 1 new map and a ladder wont be enough.
We can then stream those tournaments and create some buzz around pvp…
This game isn’t free to play mate. Pretty sure I have already supported them with a 60 buck purchase fee and the 3 character slots I bought.
LOL @ sPvP needing a cash kick starter………..
In the words of a great man whom I don’t remember, F*^k that.
+1 to that.
We bought the game and are playing it and giving feedback, thats all the support we can give. A bit pathethic people are starting to think the poor devs need more money to make this work. Its the other way around, money will come when they make it work.
Maybe the OP could start some sort of charity organization for the pvp section of Anet, its seems like they need it.
Noone cares anymore i guess :/ I didnt even know what to think when i saw that, the 1 map per week with 1 ticket pay and 1 ticket reward worked well the first week because alot of ppl saw the chance to farm some qp’s but its becoming a complete disaster since then. All we can do now is hope they manage not to completely kill this game but they dont even change something as simple as random map rotation and rewards for paids…
. I also think it takes more then just numbers and timing abilities and such to balance, they should spend some time playing tournaments, hotjoins, and watch streams of top teams playing to get the feel of what the balance is like ingame. From what i saw they dont have a good enough understanding of it.