Guild Wars 2

Linken.6345:

mcwurth.2081:

Linken.6345:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

Dejavu.2349:

Obtena.7952:

My problem with your complain about GH’s is that it’s based on the number of people in your guild. See, that’s not actually your problem because we all know the barrier to doing GH isn’t people in the guild, it’s gold.

It’s Mats… That some people will buy with Gold, Sure. I prefer to pay them for Black Lion Market things… not for gold to get a basic quality of life back. Maybe when I’m bored enough, I’ll go through the mat list and assign current gold values to everything, so we can see just how much it would take…

But no, inherently, it’s not Gold.

That’s a convenient argument for you. Mats is equivalent to gold in this game as we know. Besides, if you’’re going the mat route, the expectation is that it already takes you longer, so complaining about it makes no sense. You can’t complain about how hard it is if you’re just going to be stubborn and take the hard way to do things. I mean, you can, but you don’t look very good doing it; since day one collecting your own mats for whatever has always been the hardest and slowest way to go about crafting; I see no reason that GH is any different.

either way: materials or gold requires game time. converting materials/drops into gold takes time and needs to be gathered etc etc. it really isnt about the leght it takes (for me anyway) it is the implementation of how all was done. YES we get to keep certain things and are given BUT if we want to continue with it as before we have to REDO everything. sort off not fair but meh, keep calm and grind on i guess

Exactly, so it’s not about how many people are in Guild, it’s about gold or mats you have.

it is also about people sort off, cant move on with 2 players in it. also for claiming the hall a guild needs a minimum of 5 players ( I hear the best is like 7 or while before hot ALL was reachable with even people having their private storage guild. which i can understand some people get flipped off about. as do I. my “private” guild consists off me and my best friend, we used to have more people but they left because we play irregular times. now she left GW2 because of HoT difficulty (she is fairly new to the game but already did all core things and cant go on HoT) So now I am alone…. I do not want to invite random people into it, scared for abuse of systems and such ( i know i know settings). so for my private thingy I am stuck now. I wasnt before. now i am. I wasnt before, with HoT Iam.

True, but that’s a vast minority of guilds. Some might say it’s reasonable that Anet doesn’t cater to EVERY single scenario, especially those that may not be inline with their ideas of how the game works. It doesn’t even make sense to me a 3 man org would want to make a GH and I doubt it does to mostly everyone else in this game.

please do not speak for “mostly everyone else in this game”. As I see it there is MANY duo player guilds out there. more then you might realize. which is okay by me, and understandable due to the nature GW2 started: for casual (very casual) players that can pretty much solo the whole base game without having to party up but are allowed so if they feel like it. And that is where it lays that there are so many small guilds. I really do not like seeing this bashing on small guilds tbh. the tools where there for it to be allowed for many years, and off a sudden they got “removed” (it is still possible but we need to go through some loopholes which is unneccaserry tbh) by arenanet and gotten the finger basically. I am a very casual player. sometimes i play a few weeks (when time permits me) every day several hours, but most of the time it is about 1 hour per day or not at all. This does not mean I am totally without skill, no I can not manage in any for of PvP (it is why I do not play it and not like it) but I can solo pretty much any aspect of the game that is soloable, and I am decent enough in teamplay things like dungeons or something, sometimes even the last one standing and rezzing everyone (I am really not that good, just a fast button smasher).

Yes and most duo and single player guild are out there for bank spaces and not have to get whispered with -Hey wanna join my guild?

You sort off did on your previous post, last sentence.

Yes they used something called common sence.

You can make a fotball team with 3 players and call it a team but good luck getting to play any other team, with that nr of people same with guilds here.

football “teams” of 3 players do no exist because a football team only get to play with a minimum of 7… that is a rule… nowhere in GW2 was it ever a rule a guild MUST have any higher number then 1… so your carefully picked example does not fit.. sorry.

and your “so called common sense” does not include lets say small family guilds…. small friend guilds… or what ever more reasons there are for having a small guild. even if a group of ten players have a guild, it can be very hard to get all on at the same time due to having an actual life besides guildwars 2 …. all these people payed the for the guild halls also. they payed to having the ability to make a guild. they are not allowed to have this? why are these paying costumers not allowed to have what other paying costumers have? I do not see your logic. open your mind a little more.

Yes but that wasent what I said.

You can get 3 people and start a football team, there is no rule against starting one.
But you wont be able to play any other team since your 3 players, still your a football team and you were allowed to start it.

So yes you can start a guild with as low as 1 person but you would be able to do everything with that 1 person as it should be.

Its a guild hall not my personal house. Ask for anet to put in a house you and friend can call a club or you and family can call a home.

but you are getting it all wrong. it is not just the guild hall: it is the upgrades too! those we had, we got to keep, but if we want it after usage, we MUST HAVE A GUILDHALL AND UPGRADES! are you so in another world you are just not understanding things??

Andred.1087:

mcwurth.2081:

they are not allowed to have this? why are these paying costumers not allowed to have what other paying costumers have? I do not see your logic. open your mind a little more.

Do you even know what logic is? Because you didn’t use any of it in that statement. Paying for the game does not instantly give you access to everything, there are requirements you have to meet for some of the content, and if you refuse to meet those requirements, as OP does (and I don’t blame them, I have a similar distaste for random online gamers), you do not deserve access to that content.

Where the lines should be is a matter of debate, but frankly, if you don’t have a guild big enough to claim a guild hall, you don’t really need any of the features that come with it.

where did i state i wanted everything at once? I did not.

Linken.6345:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

Dejavu.2349:

Obtena.7952:

My problem with your complain about GH’s is that it’s based on the number of people in your guild. See, that’s not actually your problem because we all know the barrier to doing GH isn’t people in the guild, it’s gold.

It’s Mats… That some people will buy with Gold, Sure. I prefer to pay them for Black Lion Market things… not for gold to get a basic quality of life back. Maybe when I’m bored enough, I’ll go through the mat list and assign current gold values to everything, so we can see just how much it would take…

But no, inherently, it’s not Gold.

That’s a convenient argument for you. Mats is equivalent to gold in this game as we know. Besides, if you’’re going the mat route, the expectation is that it already takes you longer, so complaining about it makes no sense. You can’t complain about how hard it is if you’re just going to be stubborn and take the hard way to do things. I mean, you can, but you don’t look very good doing it; since day one collecting your own mats for whatever has always been the hardest and slowest way to go about crafting; I see no reason that GH is any different.

either way: materials or gold requires game time. converting materials/drops into gold takes time and needs to be gathered etc etc. it really isnt about the leght it takes (for me anyway) it is the implementation of how all was done. YES we get to keep certain things and are given BUT if we want to continue with it as before we have to REDO everything. sort off not fair but meh, keep calm and grind on i guess

Exactly, so it’s not about how many people are in Guild, it’s about gold or mats you have.

it is also about people sort off, cant move on with 2 players in it. also for claiming the hall a guild needs a minimum of 5 players ( I hear the best is like 7 or while before hot ALL was reachable with even people having their private storage guild. which i can understand some people get flipped off about. as do I. my “private” guild consists off me and my best friend, we used to have more people but they left because we play irregular times. now she left GW2 because of HoT difficulty (she is fairly new to the game but already did all core things and cant go on HoT) So now I am alone…. I do not want to invite random people into it, scared for abuse of systems and such ( i know i know settings). so for my private thingy I am stuck now. I wasnt before. now i am. I wasnt before, with HoT Iam.

True, but that’s a vast minority of guilds. Some might say it’s reasonable that Anet doesn’t cater to EVERY single scenario, especially those that may not be inline with their ideas of how the game works. It doesn’t even make sense to me a 3 man org would want to make a GH and I doubt it does to mostly everyone else in this game.

please do not speak for “mostly everyone else in this game”. As I see it there is MANY duo player guilds out there. more then you might realize. which is okay by me, and understandable due to the nature GW2 started: for casual (very casual) players that can pretty much solo the whole base game without having to party up but are allowed so if they feel like it. And that is where it lays that there are so many small guilds. I really do not like seeing this bashing on small guilds tbh. the tools where there for it to be allowed for many years, and off a sudden they got “removed” (it is still possible but we need to go through some loopholes which is unneccaserry tbh) by arenanet and gotten the finger basically. I am a very casual player. sometimes i play a few weeks (when time permits me) every day several hours, but most of the time it is about 1 hour per day or not at all. This does not mean I am totally without skill, no I can not manage in any for of PvP (it is why I do not play it and not like it) but I can solo pretty much any aspect of the game that is soloable, and I am decent enough in teamplay things like dungeons or something, sometimes even the last one standing and rezzing everyone (I am really not that good, just a fast button smasher).

Yes and most duo and single player guild are out there for bank spaces and not have to get whispered with -Hey wanna join my guild?

You sort off did on your previous post, last sentence.

Yes they used something called common sence.

You can make a fotball team with 3 players and call it a team but good luck getting to play any other team, with that nr of people same with guilds here.

football “teams” of 3 players do no exist because a football team only get to play with a minimum of 7… that is a rule… nowhere in GW2 was it ever a rule a guild MUST have any higher number then 1… so your carefully picked example does not fit.. sorry.

and your “so called common sense” does not include lets say small family guilds…. small friend guilds… or what ever more reasons there are for having a small guild. even if a group of ten players have a guild, it can be very hard to get all on at the same time due to having an actual life besides guildwars 2 …. all these people payed the for the guild halls also. they payed to having the ability to make a guild. they are not allowed to have this? why are these paying costumers not allowed to have what other paying costumers have? I do not see your logic. open your mind a little more.

Obtena.7952:

I don’t speak for mostly everyone else. It’s obvious what kind of guilds GH’s are for. Same thing for Guild missions … Ignore it all you want but there IS content in this game that’s inline with traditional MMO’s. Crying that a duo guild can’t afford a GH is silly.

You sort off did on your previous post, last sentence.
It is obvious that guild halls are for ALL guilds except for smaller guilds, which are guilds aswell.
I am not ignoring anything about GW2 having traditional elements of any other MMORPG, it is however standing out to be VERY different from the vast majority of other MMORPG’s.
Nobody here is crying about not being able to AFFORD a guild hall. that is just a matter of game play or pulling out a credit card.
In my eyes it is a matter of barring things behind a wall that was previous pretty much free. EVEN if you got the stuff “back” to regenerate that stuff after usage, one must again “unlock” EVERYTHING! for me personally that is pretty nonsensical. as a customer point of view that was a very bad move from arenanet. are we as costumers not allowed to give this point of view?
That people who are totally okay with it see this as: whining, crying, complaining or any other form of negative behaviour is not our fault. so many people so many ideas/complaints/etc etc.

nGumball.1283:

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Alot of people seem to introduce their own desires and values as if they were common knowledge that every single player in the game should be agreeing with.

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This is true but also realize that so many people so many ideas/tastes/complaints etc etc plus most people are egoistic even if they think they are not (and that is a human flaw nothing else). we all want what is best for ourselves. thats just human nature.

but you are right some parts. it is like what i try to teach my son: keep at it and you might get better at it. if not it is perhaps not your thing and we move on to the next!

Obtena.7952:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

Dejavu.2349:

Obtena.7952:

My problem with your complain about GH’s is that it’s based on the number of people in your guild. See, that’s not actually your problem because we all know the barrier to doing GH isn’t people in the guild, it’s gold.

It’s Mats… That some people will buy with Gold, Sure. I prefer to pay them for Black Lion Market things… not for gold to get a basic quality of life back. Maybe when I’m bored enough, I’ll go through the mat list and assign current gold values to everything, so we can see just how much it would take…

But no, inherently, it’s not Gold.

That’s a convenient argument for you. Mats is equivalent to gold in this game as we know. Besides, if you’’re going the mat route, the expectation is that it already takes you longer, so complaining about it makes no sense. You can’t complain about how hard it is if you’re just going to be stubborn and take the hard way to do things. I mean, you can, but you don’t look very good doing it; since day one collecting your own mats for whatever has always been the hardest and slowest way to go about crafting; I see no reason that GH is any different.

either way: materials or gold requires game time. converting materials/drops into gold takes time and needs to be gathered etc etc. it really isnt about the leght it takes (for me anyway) it is the implementation of how all was done. YES we get to keep certain things and are given BUT if we want to continue with it as before we have to REDO everything. sort off not fair but meh, keep calm and grind on i guess

Exactly, so it’s not about how many people are in Guild, it’s about gold or mats you have.

it is also about people sort off, cant move on with 2 players in it. also for claiming the hall a guild needs a minimum of 5 players ( I hear the best is like 7 or while before hot ALL was reachable with even people having their private storage guild. which i can understand some people get flipped off about. as do I. my “private” guild consists off me and my best friend, we used to have more people but they left because we play irregular times. now she left GW2 because of HoT difficulty (she is fairly new to the game but already did all core things and cant go on HoT) So now I am alone…. I do not want to invite random people into it, scared for abuse of systems and such ( i know i know settings). so for my private thingy I am stuck now. I wasnt before. now i am. I wasnt before, with HoT Iam.

True, but that’s a vast minority of guilds. Some might say it’s reasonable that Anet doesn’t cater to EVERY single scenario, especially those that may not be inline with their ideas of how the game works. It doesn’t even make sense to me a 3 man org would want to make a GH and I doubt it does to mostly everyone else in this game.

please do not speak for “mostly everyone else in this game”. As I see it there is MANY duo player guilds out there. more then you might realize. which is okay by me, and understandable due to the nature GW2 started: for casual (very casual) players that can pretty much solo the whole base game without having to party up but are allowed so if they feel like it. And that is where it lays that there are so many small guilds. I really do not like seeing this bashing on small guilds tbh. the tools where there for it to be allowed for many years, and off a sudden they got “removed” (it is still possible but we need to go through some loopholes which is unneccaserry tbh) by arenanet and gotten the finger basically. I am a very casual player. sometimes i play a few weeks (when time permits me) every day several hours, but most of the time it is about 1 hour per day or not at all. This does not mean I am totally without skill, no I can not manage in any for of PvP (it is why I do not play it and not like it) but I can solo pretty much any aspect of the game that is soloable, and I am decent enough in teamplay things like dungeons or something, sometimes even the last one standing and rezzing everyone (I am really not that good, just a fast button smasher).

we are allowed as costumers to complain… seeing i can not send a ticket about my complaints or go to a physical store i put them on the forums in the hope the dev team reads them and maybe considers in the future to change something in favor for me (and many others)

Obtena.7952:

mcwurth.2081:

Obtena.7952:

Dejavu.2349:

Obtena.7952:

My problem with your complain about GH’s is that it’s based on the number of people in your guild. See, that’s not actually your problem because we all know the barrier to doing GH isn’t people in the guild, it’s gold.

It’s Mats… That some people will buy with Gold, Sure. I prefer to pay them for Black Lion Market things… not for gold to get a basic quality of life back. Maybe when I’m bored enough, I’ll go through the mat list and assign current gold values to everything, so we can see just how much it would take…

But no, inherently, it’s not Gold.

That’s a convenient argument for you. Mats is equivalent to gold in this game as we know. Besides, if you’’re going the mat route, the expectation is that it already takes you longer, so complaining about it makes no sense. You can’t complain about how hard it is if you’re just going to be stubborn and take the hard way to do things. I mean, you can, but you don’t look very good doing it; since day one collecting your own mats for whatever has always been the hardest and slowest way to go about crafting; I see no reason that GH is any different.

either way: materials or gold requires game time. converting materials/drops into gold takes time and needs to be gathered etc etc. it really isnt about the leght it takes (for me anyway) it is the implementation of how all was done. YES we get to keep certain things and are given BUT if we want to continue with it as before we have to REDO everything. sort off not fair but meh, keep calm and grind on i guess

Exactly, so it’s not about how many people are in Guild, it’s about gold or mats you have.

it is also about people sort off, cant move on with 2 players in it. also for claiming the hall a guild needs a minimum of 5 players ( I hear the best is like 7 or while before hot ALL was reachable with even people having their private storage guild. which i can understand some people get flipped off about. as do I. my “private” guild consists off me and my best friend, we used to have more people but they left because we play irregular times. now she left GW2 because of HoT difficulty (she is fairly new to the game but already did all core things and cant go on HoT) So now I am alone…. I do not want to invite random people into it, scared for abuse of systems and such ( i know i know settings). so for my private thingy I am stuck now. I wasnt before. now i am. I wasnt before, with HoT Iam.

Straylight.7529:

Ashen.2907:

In general the expectation is that products be designed and adapted to meet the needs and desires of consumers, not the other way around.

That might be true for a kickstarter project. HoT however is not a kickstarter project.

Besides, you can’t please everyone.

it also is true for a game that is able to be changed through coding…. patching…. it is software, so it can be changed. simples.

Obtena.7952:

Dejavu.2349:

Obtena.7952:

My problem with your complain about GH’s is that it’s based on the number of people in your guild. See, that’s not actually your problem because we all know the barrier to doing GH isn’t people in the guild, it’s gold.

It’s Mats… That some people will buy with Gold, Sure. I prefer to pay them for Black Lion Market things… not for gold to get a basic quality of life back. Maybe when I’m bored enough, I’ll go through the mat list and assign current gold values to everything, so we can see just how much it would take…

But no, inherently, it’s not Gold.

That’s a convenient argument for you. Mats is equivalent to gold in this game as we know. Besides, if you’’re going the mat route, the expectation is that it already takes you longer, so complaining about it makes no sense. You can’t complain about how hard it is if you’re just going to be stubborn and take the hard way to do things. I mean, you can, but you don’t look very good doing it; since day one collecting your own mats for whatever has always been the hardest and slowest way to go about crafting; I see no reason that GH is any different.

either way: materials or gold requires game time. converting materials/drops into gold takes time and needs to be gathered etc etc. it really isnt about the leght it takes (for me anyway) it is the implementation of how all was done. YES we get to keep certain things and are given BUT if we want to continue with it as before we have to REDO everything. sort off not fair but meh, keep calm and grind on i guess

Klangy.8293:

I think it’s far more likely that many people who enjoyed GW2 are genuinely not enjoying HoT.

I think not. Sure all you read about on Forums are complain, but that not a big playerbase that’s here. That’s why i did this post, to tell you all “casual” (more like lazy) people that it’s not..

Timed events? Yea sure ofc, it’s a long chain. And different on all servers. It’s not night at the same time u know. Maybe u miss The start but u can ALWAYS just join in. It’s good exp either way.

call yourself lazy will ya? seeing you spend so much time in this game. some people have lives away from pc’s as well and therefore are casual gamers. seems you are not grasping what people are actually are complaining about (minus some silly complaints about difficulty of mobs)

Obtena.7952:

Meta events are divided into many smaller events. I know the exact events you’re referring to because I did all of them in that chain this morning; you get an event reward for EVERY ONE of them, PLUS your periodic participation reward for the meta AND whatever loot drops from the mobs in the events, including champ bags, etc… If you THINK you didn’t get a reward, you simply missed it because rewards are raining on you all the time in VB.

I KNOW I didn’t get a reward for that event. and several others. I do not know why I do not get a reward, I do know I do damage, and help out in events, I just sometimes do not get the reward. How can I miss it it when it ALWAYS pops up on the side of my screen? ALWAYS!

Vayne.8563:

mcwurth.2081:

and for those saying it is an MMO so we MUST play together: No, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game

it is an OPTION to play together!

The problem is, in the FAQ published before GW 2 ever launched, Anet said to the question can I play Guild Wars 2 solo, it said only you can reach max level solo. At the same time we believe that there are times when the community needs to come together to accomplish goals.

So whatever the definition of MMO is, this game was never intended for people to solo everything.

I never said everything did I ? OFCOURSE people will/have to play together at some point in an ONLINE game, that is the ultimate design/goal for the devs with making it an online game. However, throwing around constantly the sentence: HURR DURR IT IS AN MMO PLAY TOGETHER NOAH!, is just bashing on those that prefer to do certain content on their own like roaming around/exploring. Personally i get fine through VB (yes thats the only map I got so far because I need some masteries to progress) and have no clue as of yet about the rest. I always played big events “together” on the core game, yet NOT in a PUG or something. I am aware that in the new maps we MUST play as a bigger group, and many people simply do not understand the mechanics of the metas yet (including me tbh).

For me the biggest issue is that the meta events take to long and should be divided in many smaller events. I logged on last night did some smaller event (some doctor that needed help getting people back to the camp?) and then i saw an event started about some master in arms or something. I did that, we killed some champion, brought this dude back in his old form and went back to the camp, he fixes the tents…. oh now i get a reward! well so i thought…. not. no reward at all. So yeah I simply logged off. I know for a fact I SHOULD HAVE gotten some form of reward but I didnt, and it was not the first time I did not get a reward. this happens all the time, and I just feel unrewarded for my play time specially since the mobs during events give me NO XP! thats all. IDC about how hard the creatures are, it feels epic to be with a mob of people and kill a legendary together, rez people, heal them some/support them, put some damage etc etc (ranger/druid I am) yes I love that, but being not rewarded for stuff, or events that take 2 hours…. No, it does not work for many people, and that I think is the biggest issue here currently. including for me.

and for those saying it is an MMO so we MUST play together: No, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game

it is an OPTION to play together!

Klangy.8293:

except the challenge of needing to be online at specific times to participate in the only significant content on offer in the new maps.

Dunno why u say this, IF u are casual’ and just loh in to play, just do it? If not VB, do AB or TD or DS? If you wanna do some special event u have to wait for it. The yimr cant wait for you to be ready, otherwise we would have even more maps empty if everyone could start there own. And the events are not that long and u can join them when ever. Yesterday i just browse LFG for 1-2 min and joined a map. Turn on my tag and start do prequests. Asking people to taxi people and then we hade full map, and event was done.

Dude really get a grip ok: CASUAL for MANY players means we DO NOT have the TIME to sit in LFG for a LONG TIME taking away from the PRECIOUS GAMETIME we have. I can NOT spend more then an hour a day currently in gaming. WHY would I spend this 20 MINUTES of that time looking for a freaking full map that has likely done the meta over half already, and even IF I JOIN i MUST BE ONLINE FOR TWO HOURS TO REAP ALL THE REWARDS. THATS WHERE THE FAULT LIES WITH MANY PEOPLE. not their skill, not the amount of stuff that is needed to be done. IT IS ALL TIMEBOUND! So now you keep your self in line, because all i see you do on the forums is downtalk people giving legitimate complaints.

Trajan.4953:

Hmmm.

You may have a point.

Why can’t there be room for both?

Why does everything have to be available to everyone?

That’s the point isn’kitten We ALL payed the same price, for everything that Arenanet has said in their “manifesto” : Play how YOU want. They took this away, and several other things that we had in the core (looks at guilds and their access now) game.

Look I do not mind it is harder game play in HoT. I am a lone wolf owning my own guild because I like to play this way and GW2 gave me this, I could choose to play together with friends/randoms. I could also just go about and enjoy what ever content there was to do. HoT barred me from several small things atm. I will come past it it eventually, but, the game play has significantly changed, I do not like it, I payed the full shebang for it like all these “hardcore players”. So yeah I say my say, but unlike many others I just move on and check sometimes the forums (and reply sometimes) to see if there is any change or ideas for me to move on. Until that time I try to log in, if not I boot up any other game that feels at least rewarding for the little time I can spend on video games, where as I feel GW2 currently with its new content is not rewarding me.

Trajan.4953:

People begged, pleaded, complained, scorned, chided, cajoled (is that even a word anymore?), shamed, demanded etc etc etc

For more challenging content.

The Queensdale Champ train followed by the Something Somewhere Ice-Place Champ Train, soon followed by the Something-In-Orr Champ Train, Silverwastes Gravy Zero-effort Train and a few others I can barely remember. These people willingly did, the whole time slamming A-Net for not giving them “Challenging End Game Content”. Constantly complaining about the “Grind” while never really getting the fact that “Grind” has existed in every video game EVER (seriously, do your homework and GOOGLE before spouting 2011 REDDIT crap).

Now we have (OPTIONAL) challenging end game content, the Zerkers and “casuals who Lone-wolf their own guild” come out of the woodwork to complain because they can’t run it over in 30 minutes or less.

/wrists

So Hardcore players are allowed to: beg, plead, complain, scorn, chid, cajol (is that even a word anymore?), sham, demand etc etc etc, for hardcore content, but casual players are not allowed to do so about newer hardcore content?

your logic is not as logical as you think it is.

Alteraphim.4629:

Casual players can still enjoy all aspects of the new maps.

if we turn into hardcore players

Algreg.3629:

mcwurth.2081:

Algreg.3629:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

I believe it’s wrong for small guilds to expect to have access to what larger guilds have achieved through their teamwork and commitment. It is right though to expect some sort of functionality and effort/reward system to be put in place in game that is reasonably able to be acquired for smaller guilds (i.e. 5-10 players). After all, there are a lot more smaller guilds out there than there are larger guilds.

I really want to swear at you for this statement: I payed the EXACT same price (beta player early start whatever) as you did or any other person at start, and you are basically saying I have not the same rights with my 2 person guild as a 500 person guild? So so , so shortsighted of you. I payed FULL price, I want FULL game being able to come to me in what ever shape or form, PLAY HOW YOU WANT, was their sales slogan, clearly now it is PLAY AS ALL OTHER MILLIONS OR LEAVE!

I really DO NOT care if it takes me 6 months or a year to achieve the same goals as a full 500 guild can do within 2 days, but I should BE ABLE to do so, and currently it is NOT possible! Oh wait yeah /insert whiney voice: HURRDURR JOIN A BIG GUILD, USE LFG!
No it should NOT be needed to do so. once again I payed full price, I want FULL access to ALL features, EVEN if it is hard to achieve or very costly, and once again it is NOT possible with the current system!

Swear and get upset all you like, but doing so doesn’t help anything. I agree with some of what you’ve said. But you have to look at it from all points of view, just not our own.

Paying for a game does not automatically entitle any of us to everything within that game. It never ever has been the way nor should it ever be the way. And it certainly has never been the way in MMOs in general. Using that same line of entitled thinking one could also argue that all the access/rewards in the upcoming raids should also be achievable by those that solo/duo/group. No one would ever ask for that, because it simply doesn’t make sense.

What I think there should be in place are a set of rewards/goals specifically designed for smaller/medium-sized guilds too. Right now as we know the focus is almost exclusively on larger guilds. As an example; I’d like to see guild halls available that are more designed for the smaller guild (like I wrote above), and other smaller scale target goals, that would logically become a focus for smaller guilds. It’s all about balance, and – most importantly – variety when it comes to MMOs. Right now Guild Wars 2 lacks this variety with regards to guild functionality.

There should be incentives and rewards for guilds of all sizes in the game. Asking for smaller guilds to have the same options, regardless of the work involved, takes away some of the reward from the larger guilds. I don’t think doing that is the best way forward.

I did not swear nor am i upset, rather frustrated about things I payed for and have no access too because I want to play the game my way, that is not being entitled nor am I demanding anything, it is the way GW1 and GW2 have worked till HoT came out. GW1 I have my own GH, GW2 I have my own guild, HoT made it impossible. Seems that fair?

I never said I want it all NOW and I do need less work for it then any other guild, I just want to be able to have ACCESS to it. to progress I MUST have more then 5 people. But seeing there is only 2 people currently active in my guild (actually it isnt since HoT got tried by us we basically left it behind other then logging in for some dailies so now and then) I am not currently considered a “Guild” and are not ALLOWED for the same features EVERYONE payed for. Seems that fair? I do not care if i need to work a complete year towards a GH as opposed to a huge guild having to do it in a week or less, ALL I ask for is the same ACCESS!

Well, sadly, if you’re going to blatantly contradict yourself, it’s pointless trying to have any constructive conversation about it. Which is disappointing, because I think it’s a worthwhile topic.

I am not contradicting anything: all I want is the same access as anyone else. I payed as much as anyone else, therefore i want to be able to do the same. I never said I want it now and direct or tossed in my lap: I am willing to work for it, just with my own time and gaming ways, nothing wrong with that? GW has always been about being able to play how you want, not being forced into things we rather do not like. but then we get to this discussion about casual vs hardcore Kitten stuff and I rather not go there (and yeah I am a casual player with limited time, hence that I want my own little place and be able to work for that instead of a 500 people guild with unknown others).

the thing is, you “are able to do the same”. You are not excluded. If you played in a big guild and were excluded from achieving your guild aims even though you did the same thing as other players, then the game would exclude you. You, like many others, mistake “fairness” for being able to take decisions without consequences. You want to play in a 2 person guild, that is fine. And these are the consequences. They are the same consequences for everyone else chosing to play in a 2 person guild. Yes, that is fairness and not exclusion.

it is exclusion: simply because before HoT we where able to have ANYTHING that was ingame as a two person guild that a 500 people guild had as well. it took longer yes to gather influence and all, but I had access to everything. THey took that away, it is unfair.

no, it is not. That is simple change. One for the worse in your case, but still. Or is there a 2 people guild that is treated differently?

I am not only talking for myself, there is a fairly big portion of GW2/HoT players affected by this. Don’t twist my words around, the fact that is unfair: taking away access to things we had access before towards without any issue. Now it is made hard and we arenanet dropped their manifesto. that is unfair.

I can understand evolving a company, but they got to be real as well, GW2 playerbase is divided in several groups, one of which is fairly large by people who rather play casual and sort off “alone”. sure say many people, this group got pampered for a long time, now it is the other groups turn, and that is all fine with me, but by taking away things from the other group, it turned out somewhat unfair. is this somewhat a better explaination for you to understand what I mean?

Algreg.3629:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

I believe it’s wrong for small guilds to expect to have access to what larger guilds have achieved through their teamwork and commitment. It is right though to expect some sort of functionality and effort/reward system to be put in place in game that is reasonably able to be acquired for smaller guilds (i.e. 5-10 players). After all, there are a lot more smaller guilds out there than there are larger guilds.

I really want to swear at you for this statement: I payed the EXACT same price (beta player early start whatever) as you did or any other person at start, and you are basically saying I have not the same rights with my 2 person guild as a 500 person guild? So so , so shortsighted of you. I payed FULL price, I want FULL game being able to come to me in what ever shape or form, PLAY HOW YOU WANT, was their sales slogan, clearly now it is PLAY AS ALL OTHER MILLIONS OR LEAVE!

I really DO NOT care if it takes me 6 months or a year to achieve the same goals as a full 500 guild can do within 2 days, but I should BE ABLE to do so, and currently it is NOT possible! Oh wait yeah /insert whiney voice: HURRDURR JOIN A BIG GUILD, USE LFG!
No it should NOT be needed to do so. once again I payed full price, I want FULL access to ALL features, EVEN if it is hard to achieve or very costly, and once again it is NOT possible with the current system!

Swear and get upset all you like, but doing so doesn’t help anything. I agree with some of what you’ve said. But you have to look at it from all points of view, just not our own.

Paying for a game does not automatically entitle any of us to everything within that game. It never ever has been the way nor should it ever be the way. And it certainly has never been the way in MMOs in general. Using that same line of entitled thinking one could also argue that all the access/rewards in the upcoming raids should also be achievable by those that solo/duo/group. No one would ever ask for that, because it simply doesn’t make sense.

What I think there should be in place are a set of rewards/goals specifically designed for smaller/medium-sized guilds too. Right now as we know the focus is almost exclusively on larger guilds. As an example; I’d like to see guild halls available that are more designed for the smaller guild (like I wrote above), and other smaller scale target goals, that would logically become a focus for smaller guilds. It’s all about balance, and – most importantly – variety when it comes to MMOs. Right now Guild Wars 2 lacks this variety with regards to guild functionality.

There should be incentives and rewards for guilds of all sizes in the game. Asking for smaller guilds to have the same options, regardless of the work involved, takes away some of the reward from the larger guilds. I don’t think doing that is the best way forward.

I did not swear nor am i upset, rather frustrated about things I payed for and have no access too because I want to play the game my way, that is not being entitled nor am I demanding anything, it is the way GW1 and GW2 have worked till HoT came out. GW1 I have my own GH, GW2 I have my own guild, HoT made it impossible. Seems that fair?

I never said I want it all NOW and I do need less work for it then any other guild, I just want to be able to have ACCESS to it. to progress I MUST have more then 5 people. But seeing there is only 2 people currently active in my guild (actually it isnt since HoT got tried by us we basically left it behind other then logging in for some dailies so now and then) I am not currently considered a “Guild” and are not ALLOWED for the same features EVERYONE payed for. Seems that fair? I do not care if i need to work a complete year towards a GH as opposed to a huge guild having to do it in a week or less, ALL I ask for is the same ACCESS!

Well, sadly, if you’re going to blatantly contradict yourself, it’s pointless trying to have any constructive conversation about it. Which is disappointing, because I think it’s a worthwhile topic.

I am not contradicting anything: all I want is the same access as anyone else. I payed as much as anyone else, therefore i want to be able to do the same. I never said I want it now and direct or tossed in my lap: I am willing to work for it, just with my own time and gaming ways, nothing wrong with that? GW has always been about being able to play how you want, not being forced into things we rather do not like. but then we get to this discussion about casual vs hardcore Kitten stuff and I rather not go there (and yeah I am a casual player with limited time, hence that I want my own little place and be able to work for that instead of a 500 people guild with unknown others).

the thing is, you “are able to do the same”. You are not excluded. If you played in a big guild and were excluded from achieving your guild aims even though you did the same thing as other players, then the game would exclude you. You, like many others, mistake “fairness” for being able to take decisions without consequences. You want to play in a 2 person guild, that is fine. And these are the consequences. They are the same consequences for everyone else chosing to play in a 2 person guild. Yes, that is fairness and not exclusion.

it is exclusion: simply because before HoT we where able to have ANYTHING that was ingame as a two person guild that a 500 people guild had as well. it took longer yes to gather influence and all, but I had access to everything. THey took that away, it is unfair.

IAMANDLOVE.3095:

no its not! I bought 4 of those slot and dont regret it! if they do nerf it then i want a refund because it is really not fair!

I bought a new mobile phone for the full price but after a few months it became half price because a new model came out, NOT FAIR I want a refund!

worked fine in GW1 though, Guild itself just have to organize things inside the guildhalls?

Tarn.1374:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

I believe it’s wrong for small guilds to expect to have access to what larger guilds have achieved through their teamwork and commitment. It is right though to expect some sort of functionality and effort/reward system to be put in place in game that is reasonably able to be acquired for smaller guilds (i.e. 5-10 players). After all, there are a lot more smaller guilds out there than there are larger guilds.

I really want to swear at you for this statement: I payed the EXACT same price (beta player early start whatever) as you did or any other person at start, and you are basically saying I have not the same rights with my 2 person guild as a 500 person guild? So so , so shortsighted of you. I payed FULL price, I want FULL game being able to come to me in what ever shape or form, PLAY HOW YOU WANT, was their sales slogan, clearly now it is PLAY AS ALL OTHER MILLIONS OR LEAVE!

I really DO NOT care if it takes me 6 months or a year to achieve the same goals as a full 500 guild can do within 2 days, but I should BE ABLE to do so, and currently it is NOT possible! Oh wait yeah /insert whiney voice: HURRDURR JOIN A BIG GUILD, USE LFG!
No it should NOT be needed to do so. once again I payed full price, I want FULL access to ALL features, EVEN if it is hard to achieve or very costly, and once again it is NOT possible with the current system!

Swear and get upset all you like, but doing so doesn’t help anything. I agree with some of what you’ve said. But you have to look at it from all points of view, just not our own.

Paying for a game does not automatically entitle any of us to everything within that game. It never ever has been the way nor should it ever be the way. And it certainly has never been the way in MMOs in general. Using that same line of entitled thinking one could also argue that all the access/rewards in the upcoming raids should also be achievable by those that solo/duo/group. No one would ever ask for that, because it simply doesn’t make sense.

What I think there should be in place are a set of rewards/goals specifically designed for smaller/medium-sized guilds too. Right now as we know the focus is almost exclusively on larger guilds. As an example; I’d like to see guild halls available that are more designed for the smaller guild (like I wrote above), and other smaller scale target goals, that would logically become a focus for smaller guilds. It’s all about balance, and – most importantly – variety when it comes to MMOs. Right now Guild Wars 2 lacks this variety with regards to guild functionality.

There should be incentives and rewards for guilds of all sizes in the game. Asking for smaller guilds to have the same options, regardless of the work involved, takes away some of the reward from the larger guilds. I don’t think doing that is the best way forward.

I did not swear nor am i upset, rather frustrated about things I payed for and have no access too because I want to play the game my way, that is not being entitled nor am I demanding anything, it is the way GW1 and GW2 have worked till HoT came out. GW1 I have my own GH, GW2 I have my own guild, HoT made it impossible. Seems that fair?

I never said I want it all NOW and I do need less work for it then any other guild, I just want to be able to have ACCESS to it. to progress I MUST have more then 5 people. But seeing there is only 2 people currently active in my guild (actually it isnt since HoT got tried by us we basically left it behind other then logging in for some dailies so now and then) I am not currently considered a “Guild” and are not ALLOWED for the same features EVERYONE payed for. Seems that fair? I do not care if i need to work a complete year towards a GH as opposed to a huge guild having to do it in a week or less, ALL I ask for is the same ACCESS!

Well, sadly, if you’re going to blatantly contradict yourself, it’s pointless trying to have any constructive conversation about it. Which is disappointing, because I think it’s a worthwhile topic.

I am not contradicting anything: all I want is the same access as anyone else. I payed as much as anyone else, therefore i want to be able to do the same. I never said I want it now and direct or tossed in my lap: I am willing to work for it, just with my own time and gaming ways, nothing wrong with that? GW has always been about being able to play how you want, not being forced into things we rather do not like. but then we get to this discussion about casual vs hardcore Kitten stuff and I rather not go there (and yeah I am a casual player with limited time, hence that I want my own little place and be able to work for that instead of a 500 people guild with unknown others).

Tarn.1374:

mcwurth.2081:

Tarn.1374:

I believe it’s wrong for small guilds to expect to have access to what larger guilds have achieved through their teamwork and commitment. It is right though to expect some sort of functionality and effort/reward system to be put in place in game that is reasonably able to be acquired for smaller guilds (i.e. 5-10 players). After all, there are a lot more smaller guilds out there than there are larger guilds.

I really want to swear at you for this statement: I payed the EXACT same price (beta player early start whatever) as you did or any other person at start, and you are basically saying I have not the same rights with my 2 person guild as a 500 person guild? So so , so shortsighted of you. I payed FULL price, I want FULL game being able to come to me in what ever shape or form, PLAY HOW YOU WANT, was their sales slogan, clearly now it is PLAY AS ALL OTHER MILLIONS OR LEAVE!

I really DO NOT care if it takes me 6 months or a year to achieve the same goals as a full 500 guild can do within 2 days, but I should BE ABLE to do so, and currently it is NOT possible! Oh wait yeah /insert whiney voice: HURRDURR JOIN A BIG GUILD, USE LFG!
No it should NOT be needed to do so. once again I payed full price, I want FULL access to ALL features, EVEN if it is hard to achieve or very costly, and once again it is NOT possible with the current system!

Swear and get upset all you like, but doing so doesn’t help anything. I agree with some of what you’ve said. But you have to look at it from all points of view, just not our own.

Paying for a game does not automatically entitle any of us to everything within that game. It never ever has been the way nor should it ever be the way. And it certainly has never been the way in MMOs in general. Using that same line of entitled thinking one could also argue that all the access/rewards in the upcoming raids should also be achievable by those that solo/duo/group. No one would ever ask for that, because it simply doesn’t make sense.

What I think there should be in place are a set of rewards/goals specifically designed for smaller/medium-sized guilds too. Right now as we know the focus is almost exclusively on larger guilds. As an example; I’d like to see guild halls available that are more designed for the smaller guild (like I wrote above), and other smaller scale target goals, that would logically become a focus for smaller guilds. It’s all about balance, and – most importantly – variety when it comes to MMOs. Right now Guild Wars 2 lacks this variety with regards to guild functionality.

There should be incentives and rewards for guilds of all sizes in the game. Asking for smaller guilds to have the same options, regardless of the work involved, takes away some of the reward from the larger guilds. I don’t think doing that is the best way forward.

I did not swear nor am i upset, rather frustrated about things I payed for and have no access too because I want to play the game my way, that is not being entitled nor am I demanding anything, it is the way GW1 and GW2 have worked till HoT came out. GW1 I have my own GH, GW2 I have my own guild, HoT made it impossible. Seems that fair?

I never said I want it all NOW and I do need less work for it then any other guild, I just want to be able to have ACCESS to it. to progress I MUST have more then 5 people. But seeing there is only 2 people currently active in my guild (actually it isnt since HoT got tried by us we basically left it behind other then logging in for some dailies so now and then) I am not currently considered a “Guild” and are not ALLOWED for the same features EVERYONE payed for. Seems that fair? I do not care if i need to work a complete year towards a GH as opposed to a huge guild having to do it in a week or less, ALL I ask for is the same ACCESS!

Donari.5237:

Lost Precipice question, will the updrafts be put into a permanently on state? That is a serious QoL issue with that hall Some of the mid air drafts don’t even have a jump pad, or else are stair steps in the air from one way down low. It makes zero sense to have to go manually trigger the pad far below where you’re trying to go just so you can then go back where you were and glide into it.

(This is semi on topic since people wanting to change halls should know they’re getting a disabled feature for mobility there. Not that I’d swap away from Precipice, it really is a more fun map and has more sunlight, but that really is an issue with it).

make a seperate topic, do not take over someone elses topic just because a dev answered in it.

SilverThorn.5047:

saturn.4810:

I would love to hear how to make 300g in less than a week as a casual player.

4 hrs of SW chest farm = 11g/hr approx
44×7 = 308g week

flush all champ bags in mystic toilet… get lucky… score a precursor +500~800g

i got leaf of kudzu with flushes before you ask

That isnt casual gameplay that is grinding, casual players do not grind.
A heart here and there an event there, trying to figure out what to buy/sell log off and do a real version of that. and RNG has to be with you to be lucky.

mulzi.8273:

There is nothing locked behind meta in VB, specifically though. At night you can get the patriach POI by yourself, and all the hero points are accessible through the day or night, with some clever gliding from Faren’s WP (requires leaning and updraft though).

AB though, is a piece of crap when it comes to this. You have to finish the story through the AB zone to get the POI and vista on each character, which is immensily frustrating to me. Then you have to do the meta event AND have the map at tier 4 (meaning you have to do both the meta AND the pre events) to access that HP under the city. Dumbest design in the history of MMOs imho.

Tangled is pretty easy, once you stop getting lost. It took me about 3-4 characters with map completion, but now i fly through it pretty quick (hint: get to Nurdoch wp, you can use wallows to get just about anywhere from there). No HPs vistas or pois locked. A few mastery points are mastery gated (key-line one), but they are not needed for map completion..

Dragon stand you have to finish the meta event. Then you have ~8-10 minutes to grab as much of the pois/HPs as you can before map closes. May take you a couple of times to map complete this one, as most of the HPs are gated and require meta event completion. Also need poison mastery for one…

it is not about reaching HP, POIs or other things, it is about the very time consuming 2 hour (or longer) event(s)(chains) that REQUIRE people to stay online for a fairly long time to get a bit of decent progression on the mastery “XP” bars, when really I do not have time for that.
lately I returned doing other games again, because honestly those feel way more rewarding (and it are offline games) then HoT does. I even stopped logging in every and each day for the dailies. If it feels for a fairly large portoin of the player base that HoT is unrewarding (yeah yeah casual l2p blah blah join a guild etc etc) then there is SOMETHING wrong with it. No need to redesign, just think about casual players that sometimes also want to see porgressionn!

Tarn.1374:

I believe it’s wrong for small guilds to expect to have access to what larger guilds have achieved through their teamwork and commitment. It is right though to expect some sort of functionality and effort/reward system to be put in place in game that is reasonably able to be acquired for smaller guilds (i.e. 5-10 players). After all, there are a lot more smaller guilds out there than there are larger guilds.

I really want to swear at you for this statement: I payed the EXACT same price (beta player early start whatever) as you did or any other person at start, and you are basically saying I have not the same rights with my 2 person guild as a 500 person guild? So so , so shortsighted of you. I payed FULL price, I want FULL game being able to come to me in what ever shape or form, PLAY HOW YOU WANT, was their sales slogan, clearly now it is PLAY AS ALL OTHER MILLIONS OR LEAVE!

I really DO NOT care if it takes me 6 months or a year to achieve the same goals as a full 500 guild can do within 2 days, but I should BE ABLE to do so, and currently it is NOT possible! Oh wait yeah /insert whiney voice: HURRDURR JOIN A BIG GUILD, USE LFG!
No it should NOT be needed to do so. once again I payed full price, I want FULL access to ALL features, EVEN if it is hard to achieve or very costly, and once again it is NOT possible with the current system!

for 1 hour players (like me) it is near impossible to join in events and actually finish it all. more and more i see myself going back to skyrim or other games (we got planets yay 0/) because HoT did not bring as much fun to ME as it did with playing the core game and am pretty much waiting for next weeks update and see how and what they balanced the new areas/mobs/events etc etc. still havent finished verdant brink and only got 2 glider and one shroom mastery thats it because I just seem not be able to gather enough xp to even see a decent difference on my mastery xp bar

Gaile Gray.6029:

An issue arose on Wednesday that caused some players’ Heart of Thorns map exploration to disappear. If your account was one of those that had the map exploration issue, it was temporarily disabled in order to correct the issue. The correction has been made to all impacted accounts, and those involved will find a nice little something in your in-game mail as a gift to thank you for your understanding. We’re sorry for any distress that the time-out caused — the team worked as quickly as they could to rectify the matter.

If your account has been blocked, suspended, or terminated for a reason other than the correction of the map exploration bug, please feel free to contact Customer Support and they will assist you.

It be nice of the dev team/ communications to actually communicate this BEFORE this gets done. It would take away a lot of stress from many people.

Nausicca.6038:

PvE in this game is all about DPS. If you want to heal other people, just add water fields in your rotation (healing turret, Egun #5, Mortar #5) and blast them.

not really, it is about a fine balance between healing (mostly yourself) and DPS. Other then that a supportive role is best used in a team/party. The gold reward is just rewarded because doing high damage. Which in my personal opinion is wrong.

change the title to unofficial thank you, seeing you are not a dev.

the game is evolving, evolve with it or not. (If it is for the better or nt is not for me to decide).

nice guide but you keep saying things are a chore….. untill you reach a certain “thing”.
I think it shouldn’t be a chore. at all.
thanks for the masteries insight, It is so confuSing to decide which one i should take. no information anywhere.

do all in “old” tyria, once done those you only need 60 more in the “new” tyria. goes really fast tbh

it is so funny, people complain about these mobs, others thinking it is because full zerker gear….. you know, I run FULL zerker gear because I am to lazy and to poor to go buy new or farm new gear. Just waiting for some decent drops, but you know what, I have 0 issues with any mobs and hardly died at all.

I think it is more an issue of not having masteries complete and getting used to mobs and learning new tactics, (and yeah the smokescales are annoying but meh)

what you need to do is go in your online banking and activate your card for payments, it will be activated for 30 minutes and then you can buy gems again. something to do with new way of 3d secure payments or something. it sucks

totally agree, there is not a single explaination when coming into the new parts except a very few pop ups that come when almost dead, hover over descriptions and some random npc telling stuff.
first two days i played i was totally lost. had no idea how to do masteries and elite specialization was for me not understandable, oh hai you unlocked the first 200 points but i will not let you equip a staff! WHY NOT?? it doesnt explain anywhere…

yeah for 450 swedish kronor I’d like a better tutorial or explanation of masteries elite specialization and or new mechanics of HOT

not everyone likes certain parts of the game, yet want certain skins. seems fine to me if it is this way. i do not pvp, ever. yet i do have certain pvp armors due to the fact i can get them without doing pvp. not bad at all.

maniamsmart.7981:

mcwurth.2081:

Sorin.4310:

mcwurth.2081:

3500 bags and i got 3 mini devil dogs two hammers and a huge load of crap. but meh, its just a game in the end

A game, where it’s likely the only reason the OP is playing is to enjoy it, which he did not, which is the reason for this thread. So what is your point in saying that it’s “just a game in the end”?

if he dont enjoy RNG maybe he should stop play then? geez, it is just virtual stuff, shrug it off and move on!

Yeah, at the end of the day it is just a game and I admit, it was kind of fun to open 1000 bags, so I totally agree with you that people should just shrug it off. But I really wanted a mini I thought I could at least get one from a thousand bags. I also just found out they aren’t that expensive on the TP though, so I may just buy one there.

By no way am I complaining or ranting about not getting anything expensive or really awesome, it was a fun experience nonetheless. Just wanted to inform people that even with 1000 bags, which seems like a lot, it’s very likely that you may disappointed if you are expecting something big.

;) yeah, i got two of the dogs stored for someone later, I always save this stuff and give it to people that do me a good deed in tyria takes some time sometimes, but this way i gave away a bunch of endless tonics and minis already.

Sorin.4310:

mcwurth.2081:

3500 bags and i got 3 mini devil dogs two hammers and a huge load of crap. but meh, its just a game in the end

A game, where it’s likely the only reason the OP is playing is to enjoy it, which he did not, which is the reason for this thread. So what is your point in saying that it’s “just a game in the end”?

if he dont enjoy RNG maybe he should stop play then? geez, it is just virtual stuff, shrug it off and move on!

3500 bags and i got 3 mini devil dogs two hammers and a huge load of crap. but meh, its just a game in the end

PadainFain.6289:

The same problem here. I’ve tried 4 different cards as well as PayPal and none of them will complete. None of my cards are blocked and none of the payments have even attempted authorisation with my card holders.

But just before I had bought Gems in game. So I went back into the game and bought the expansion there. Worked first time. I think it’s something to do with what was said about their forwarded requests not appearing secure from the web site.

ingame didnt work either for me for what ever reason. no matter i will order the game at a certified retailer, boxed, for 100 SEK (swedish kronor) less then pre purchase so i can buy myself a character slot as well plus i get a boxed version.

Gangsta.3218:

Dangus.6572:

Hi,

I made it. It was in my bank settings to authorise only secure payments. Somehow it treated Anet’s payment forwarders not safe. Solution for me was temporary disable this feature and it worked. Hope it will help to anybody.

Thanks Dangus! I love you <3 <3 <3

This worked for me also.

I’ve been i contact with support at GW2, PayPal and Visa – And NONE could help me with an answer. So I really hope they see this and take notes!

i dont even know how to do this…. strange tho that i cant pruchase through paypal and bank/cc

Anyone even consider that Arena Net developers/employees play the game themselves as well, took into consideration the amount of people complaining and/or reading peoples concerns elsewhere, decided themselves to see how/if it is balanced enough for ALL type of players and decided to tone it a little bit down?

Also for the people saying that they lost their time and effort of getting the 400 points needed: You have gotten them back, now you can go for your legendary crafting or something…

i got an answer from suport that my purchases are “pending”. I dunno what to do atm as i am scared i will be charged for all the tries i made….

Master Nueng.2861:

I have the same problem, it keeps coming up with “payment authorisation failed” I tried to purchase using a card which I know worked last time but now it doesn’t work. I tried through paypal and that also doesn’t work.
I have submitted a ticket on this issue before but I was told to use a different card.
I don’t have many cards to go through to use only once.
I remembered they said that if there was too many failed attempt on purchase then they would block any purchase for 24 hours. But this was more then a year ago.

that wont work when a person only has one card…

haloween since the TP and website will not let me pre purchase(

same for me i filled a ticket but no luck in answer i had to wait till today due to payments (and family life) so no pre purchase for me, kinda sad about it tbh.

Jaymee.1560:

mcwurth.2081:

he banned a troll, wow, news worthy….

Dude, lmao, watch that again and pay attention…

He banned Colin Johanson the GW 2 BIG boss… lol

think you need to watch that video again. it wasnt really colin