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But seriously the pale tree is just up to no good with all the lack of information
The kitten mightier than the sword! trehearne stabs mordy in eye with pen
So i went back to vigil to go see him and we find out "only that it’s someone official from Divinity’s Reach (and the guard now likes canach lol
Actually hes the one who told us about the other pale trees least he lets us in on some things, i never would of guessed there bring more than one pale tree
I think mordy needs magic betweem kessix and LA to spread if tengu dont have wps there im sure hes feeding off other things to reach la (the tengu theirselves could be used as a source of magic food i fear)
Ps: anyone else have the fear that the vines are gonna end up feeding off zhaitans dead magic galore body?
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The Pale tree knows ALOT more than she is leading on to about mordy, she knew scarlet was fighting the corruption to save her on mind and im sure she knows (being basically the goddess of nature and all things plant) what mordys corruption/vines are doing to tyria, im also sure she knows of scarlets vision of wanting to choke her, and if mordy is infact controlling the nightmares than the pale tree knew about mordy wwwway before everyone else because of the nightmare court, this tree needs to loosen her lips before someone gets thrown into the wood chipper, i’m sure the pale tree can grow vines so very similar to mordys im sure she can explain how they work, i feel like comparing her to the U.S. Government and their policy on “national security” the people of tyria wont find out until its too late…… Just another thing to hold against the syvari
I don’t understand. How did Ceara awake in 1304AE? It’s impossible. Firstborn awakened in 1302AE, and the secondborn are said to be awakened 7 years later in 1309AE.
The 7 year thing isnt really fact, theres a huge fight about it on the lore sub-forum devs included
I posted the path here: https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/158157/Vine_map.jpg
It looks like it skips right to Fort Mariner.
Actually it skips to the pact base in timberline, they are about to do some heavy damage oh so soon
From Darkwound wp in kessix the vines head straight west towards la (which means the tengu are also experiencing this i think kessixs path is done its way passed kessix now from la to timberline the funs about to begin
Elder Dragon would win because they can siphon/consume magic and gods are made of magic. If we forget about that ability Six Gods>Elder Dragons.
6 gods are also VERY easily corrupted like any other human in tyria, oops sorry grenth you’re now a icebrood win
Gaps sparking now?? For 2 days kessix haven was sparking then it just went back to normal for some reason, the vines are growing live without patches which is cool
kitten you work! Im usually keeping good track of kessix during the day gonna have to check out gap and the others when i get home
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The vision and mordy did lead her to do what she did but she also agreed with it and said herself “i have my own reasons for doing this too, get out of my head”
Kinda like shes saying ill help you help me just shut up and let me do it already, she fought with the entity for quite some time before her death
Im not a centaur expert but i think is more probably that the centaur give us problem than be an ally. Centaur are territorial and aggresive creatures. I imagine this centaur is watching us and preparing some interesting problems (ambush etc..).
But then we have Ventari, who actually came from the Maguuma Jungle and befriended a human. He greatly disliked violence. We also had centaur allies in Elona, so clearly they aren’t all bad.
Perhaps this is a descendant of Ventari?
Lions arch has a treaty with centaurs at the kessix haven i was just talking about, theres friendly centaurs there all the time
LA and centaurs are friendly its divinity’s reach thats at war
Its also not a map glitch ive switched many times and the wp is back to normal and i cant find any new ones acting up this is really strange did i catch something i shouldnt have?
Kessix Haven Waypoint was the farthest ive seen it spread but today i showed up there to see if a vine popped up yet and its not going crazy anymore (just yesterday it was screwy as it has been) why has it stopped?
Edit: Ive noticed ur map doesnt have that wp marked but its been blinking from corruption from when i saw it 2 days ago, but now its stopped all of the sudden
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Mordy also knows of the pale tree or scarlet wouldnt of had the vision of the pale tree being choked by mordys vines but ik ik he was asleep theres no way he knows of the syvari either!!!!!!! Gasp!! gasp!! of course the elder dragons know whats going on in their world they are basically gods, even in slumber nothings gonna happen without them knowing about it, they have lived for so long for a reason
Doubt we get to kill him but im sure he makes an intro, i believe The Grove war is gonna be the end of this season, a all out battle pale tree vs mordys vines (scarlets vision) it was scarlets ultimate goal in all of her crazyiness, the pale tree shall be choked by the corruption of mordremoth as the syvari city burns to the ground
Much like the epic battle of scarlet and lions arch season 2 gets to go out with a game changing big bang
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I’ve got another idea.
We know that Scarlet used the Breachmaker to direct a surge of energy from the ley-line to Mordremoths sleeping place. I am wondering if redirecting the flow of magic in the ley-line did not cause it to become permanently connected to Mordremoth. This could potentially allow him to feed on a much more rapid rate than he did.
My guess is that Mordremoth has not awakended yet, he is in a sort of pre-awakening state, and needs more magic to do so. As a dragon connected with plants, he might be using the vines as a root system to suck on magic from every major source (much like Mouths of Zhaitan). Or this might be a sign that a major branch of the ley-line became somewhat corrupted by Mordremoth linked to it.
don’t see this being it either, it goes against scarlets vision/her motive of doing everything she did, if she wanted the pale tree choked by vines she wouldnt prolong mordys awakening, plus the vines isnt just sucking up random magical energy, they ATTACK the pact directly knowing what happened to zhaiten, mordy didnt take any chances of getting pewed pewed, ur theory would hold if it wasnt for the strategized attack against the pact
And how do you propose Mordi knows what happened to Zhitan? Did he leave Mordi a voice mail? As far as we know Mordi has been asleep till scarlet woke him up.
The fact that the very first thing he does when he wakes up is start destroying pact bases???
I’ve got another idea.
We know that Scarlet used the Breachmaker to direct a surge of energy from the ley-line to Mordremoths sleeping place. I am wondering if redirecting the flow of magic in the ley-line did not cause it to become permanently connected to Mordremoth. This could potentially allow him to feed on a much more rapid rate than he did.
My guess is that Mordremoth has not awakended yet, he is in a sort of pre-awakening state, and needs more magic to do so. As a dragon connected with plants, he might be using the vines as a root system to suck on magic from every major source (much like Mouths of Zhaitan). Or this might be a sign that a major branch of the ley-line became somewhat corrupted by Mordremoth linked to it.
don’t see this being it either, it goes against scarlets vision/her motive of doing everything she did, if she wanted the pale tree choked by vines she wouldnt prolong mordys awakening, plus the vines isnt just sucking up random magical energy, they ATTACK the pact directly knowing what happened to zhaiten, mordy didnt take any chances of getting pewed pewed, ur theory would hold if it wasnt for the strategized attack against the pact
Sylvaris didn’t exist when the world began because they are non-essential to the well being of Tyria. That’s nothing but a Sylvari propaganda — the Sylvari race can disappear and Tyria will continue to exist.
Technically, humanity can disappear from Earth and it would continue to exist, too.
Honestly, there is a point here . . . the sylvari are not here to keep the world in balance, I think. They’re here to help ensure this iteration of the cycle of Elder Dragons waking doesn’t end in everything being destroyed and them going back to sleep.
That’s right. The sylvari are Tyrian Commander Shepherds.
. . . kill them quickly before we get to the asura building a machine they don’t know how it works based on desperation and it offers only a choice of red, blue, or green.
+1
Ive always wondered what mordys influence is doing inside the tengu wall, they know of scarlets doings but will they have a big reaction from mordys awakening (only anet knows
If they didn’t react to Scarlet’s forces literally banging on their door, I doubt anything an Elder Dragon all the way over in the Maguuma Wastes/Falls is going to stir them to action.
Umm that elder dragon all the way over in maguuma wastes does a all out PLANT VINE assault on the pact base in Timberline Falls are you seriously gonna claim their safe because of where mordy is even tho we know for a fact that he can attack half way across the map? EDs are basically gods, your simple human logic doesnt work
Ive always wondered what mordys influence is doing inside the tengu wall, they know of scarlets doings but will they have a big reaction from mordys awakening (only anet knows) 
Fyi tengu was a VERY big candidate as a playable race (getting cut for time) the voice acting could very well already be there but the zones are incomplete, anet has never disclosed how close to finished Tengu was before they scrapped it, theres a small chance we may yet see a tengu release
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In a way, I have brought it up in the ‘oh god no’ topic. I’m concerned that ‘dying’ was part of Scarlet’s plan to spread the vines in some way. My fear is that it’ll take years before we’re finally rid of the ’baby’s first fantasy character’.
No its just your very off topic and youre bringing zero into the topic cant u grammer police AND stay on topic by adding to the conversation (sheesh lol)
Is your writing here intentional?
Well of course scarlet would know of mordys vine corruption because thats basically why she woke mordy up, to ultimately either kill or corrupt the pale tree (not sure on which yet) i really like the grove and rather not see it in flames, the pale tree is a huge benefit to tyria concerning the mists and would be beyond a hugemongeous lost, tyria would be lost i doubt many people realize how big of a role syvari play in tyria
Nonsense.
Sylvaris didn’t exist when the world began because they are non-essential to the well being of Tyria. That’s nothing but a Sylvari propaganda — the Sylvari race can disappear and Tyria will continue to exist.
Not true they are very essential to surviving this cycle of the elder dragons, caithe created the pact trehearne lead the pact and SUCCESSFULLY killed zhaitan the very first dragon kill in history led by syvari!!! Without syvari tyria would be up s*** creek like the last cycle, they get ALOT of credit for saving tyria
I have my own theory about the vines and the waypoints. What if it’s not vines traveling by waypoint, but spores brought along by travelers, that sprout near sources of magic in order to consume it for Mordremoth?
OH MY GOD. We missed the obvious answer to this. THE TOWER OF NIGHTMARES! You remember how it was stated the spores were spreading across Tyria? It was Chekhov’s Gun! The spores were already planted by the tower, and are now sprouting. It’s how the vines can be at Timberline Falls despite Mordremeth’s distance to it!
I don’t think thats how it went down, scarlet wouldnt of bothered with the miasma if that was really her plan all along i dont think she would of even bothered attacking LA until the vines grew, scarlet knew of mordys corruption via the vision and with the help of mordys corruption/vision created the miasma that allowed her the time to drill the layline could mordy of woke himself up as soon as scarlet hit the layline because of zhaitans death? (He immediately attacks the pact, thats saying ALOT about mordys plans, so mordy wanted the layline to be hit, maybe to have the vines travel on it? (Which backs up the layline travel theory)
In a way, I have brought it up in the ‘oh god no’ topic. I’m concerned that ‘dying’ was part of Scarlet’s plan to spread the vines in some way. My fear is that it’ll take years before we’re finally rid of the ’baby’s first fantasy character’.
No its just your very off topic and youre bringing zero into the topic cant u grammer police AND stay on topic by adding to the conversation (sheesh lol)
Is your writing here intentional?
Well of course scarlet would know of mordys vine corruption because thats basically why she woke mordy up, to ultimately either kill or corrupt the pale tree (not sure on which yet) i really like the grove and rather not see it in flames, the pale tree is a huge benefit to tyria concerning the mists and would be beyond a hugemongeous lost, tyria would be lost i doubt many people realize how big of a role syvari play in tyria
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I would have probably noticed if I gave a single care about the Sylvari, but I don’t.
Let me know when he gets around to planning an attack on a race I actually care about. (Charr, Skritt, Grawl)
As trehearne once said if syvari ends tyria ends (we need an endless plant army from somewhere lol) if the syvari died in tyria the other races would also die out stated many times in game
Why wouldn’t the dragons be able to use magic?
Because you know, there is literally (IIRC that is) a form of magic called “dragon magic”, like necro magic, elemental, chaos, etc.
Also the fact that anybody can use the waypoints, provided they got the coin. So why would it be impossible for the dragon to use it? Out of the box for sure, but I could see it happening.
Though I’d imagine the same money restrictions would apply, hence why we don’t see Zhaitan overloading the waypoints by sending armies through :P.
Travel via waypoints is the only possible way mordys vines are traving across tyria so quickly theres honestly no other way idk why people cant accept wp travel, if we remember zhaitans minions used asura gates in trinity during ps. why couldnt they also be able to use waypoints? Its not as far fetched as people keep making it seem
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/lwd/Why-hasnt-anyone-brought-this-up/first#post4188982 figured id post this here, alotta people seem to of forgot about scarlets vision
No its just your very off topic and youre bringing zero into the topic cant u grammer police AND stay on topic by adding to the conversation (sheesh lol)
I can see them having the grove fight being the final chapter of season 2, like battle of la was for s1 scarlet awakened the dragon for the purpose of that vision. the vision was her motive which in a way can easily relate to the nightmare court, bringing up the question if the nightnare court could of been mordys minions all along (nightnare being his corruption) could the dutchess possibly be a champion?
Why hasn’t anyone Brought* this up?
Man, don’t mean to be a grammar kitten but brung is just straight up not a word. It’s cool if English isn’t your first language, this is just to help you improve.
Fixed for the grammer troll
Well the Pale Tree is in the Grove but the vines are going East and are spreading into Kissex Hills now. If its target was the Pale Tree, it’s making one hell of a detour.
Well it was also shown that the pact in timber was hit very hard in the trailer, im guessing mordy just hasnt hit the pale tree yet (prioritizing ftw down with megalazer long live the elder dragon!) if the pale tree was corrupted… Id say mordy would have an army the size if not bigger than zhaitans
Scarlet had a dream of choking the pale tree and from the trailer vines attacking/choking people and recent vine activitys with the waypoints why hasnt anyone realised that mordy has the pale tree targeted to either corrupt it or kill it, that is not known but because of scarlets dreams and the vines being confirmed mordys i fear the grove will turn into what la became, a war zone the pale tree is seriously in danger somehow scarlet saw what mordy wanted (which would also confirm that it was mordy driving her madness her vision was obviously of mordys vines
As i said all the dragons could corrupt a single creature just takes a small change so fleshlings arent immune to mordys corruption in the least bit
Also syvari are effected by corruption…. With sudden death tho anet hasnt told us why syvari die instead of corupt but im sure S2 will explain that eventually, them being plant people have nothing to do with anything except you came to your own conclusion
Actually wrong prim can corrupt all but syvari into such creatures zhaiten can raise just about anything but syvari you are assuming that mordy corrupts plants theres no evidence of any corruption from mordy yet, and its also stated that things can be corrupted by multiple dragons as well i promise mordy had a corruption wwwway before syvari popped up and dont get me started on the icebrood
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Master of peace could easily be corrupted by mordy (suspected as mordys champ) he is only a human no matter how mysterious hes trying to be, he could easily be heading to do mordys bidding hes far from immune to corruption
The Blizzard development team size for WoW as of 2009 was around 900 (excluding customer support and billing) anets size is tiny compared to blizzard and blizzard spitfires expansins BUT each expansion has still taken them a while to develop so a team of 350 vs a team of over 900… I have no clue why people try to compare the games
I never said anet wouldnt eventually do everything they set out to do,, content trickles in nonstop i think anet is doing a absolutely amazing job with what little they have to work with, anet def get their props!!!! I just wish nc_soft had more faith and deliever the funds for expansions so that cash is flowing and the universe isnt suffering on a budget based off the sales of fuzzy hats and minis….
But in all fairness, no I dont think we will be getting a specific new map on the first patch. I would lose serious respect for Anet if we did, no good story gives you anything in the beginning other then teases. I fully expect a revamped wildland or at the very most a new small section added to wildlands that will lead to magumma like some are thinking. Really though, that wouldnt make much sense, just redesign the map.
Where would u place that new chunk of small section if you were anet? :P
No clue, I was not the one that stated that idea. I even specificlly said in the post what some others think. I even said that I myself see that as very unlikely and even more so unrealistic. A revamped wildlands is needed and very appropiate as a “new map” for this first patch.
Maybe you read it wrong? I meant where would you put what you said (in bold)? Do you see anet expanding brisbands borders or do you see them squishing in something somewhere already existed?
Neither, I only see them revamping the map in general. There are already 2 portals on 2 different borders that seem to obviously lead to 2 different new maps.
Really? So every indication they have revealed point to a new map (at least one, i’m betting more) makes you think they will just revamp brisbane? That seems not only disappointing, but extremely unlikely.
La was techniquelly a new map revamped from the normal one (which was a HUUUUUUGE effort for anet to do [requiring overtime by most if not all of the team] the concept arts especially with the brisban hash tags points to brisban getting a revamp for the start of s2 introducing mordys corruption. Just revamping a zone takes HUGE effort for anet to pull off so if they have to pull crazy hours including massive overtime why would you think a map the size of maguuma wastes would be possible in such a short period of time and NO its not anets fault they just don’t have the team and ncsoft doesnt want such a sized team to exist, they are making money off their (VERY lame imho) items in the gem store, new maps cost a fortune which is why they are paid for as expansions… Nc_soft will make zero money off anet releasing a brand spanking new map, ncsoft gives anet a budget for small updates to keep us here for as long as possible and when we get tired of it nc_soft pulls anet out to the side and tells them to develop them GW3 so that we can pay another $60-70 to fill their pockets, nc_soft is in it for the profit, in a Free content game new maps arent profit so just keep buying all the fuzzy hats and u’ll eventually get to pay for yet another gw or dont and if nc_soft loses enough profit they pull guild wars plug and money farm Wild Star sequals
So because of the art and trailer, can we rule out edge 2.0 using vandel as a base of operations?
But in all fairness, no I dont think we will be getting a specific new map on the first patch. I would lose serious respect for Anet if we did, no good story gives you anything in the beginning other then teases. I fully expect a revamped wildland or at the very most a new small section added to wildlands that will lead to magumma like some are thinking. Really though, that wouldnt make much sense, just redesign the map.
Where would u place that new chunk of small section if you were anet? :P
No clue, I was not the one that stated that idea. I even specificlly said in the post what some others think. I even said that I myself see that as very unlikely and even more so unrealistic. A revamped wildlands is needed and very appropiate as a “new map” for this first patch.
Maybe you read it wrong? I meant where would you put what you said (in bold)? Do you see anet expanding brisbands borders or do you see them squishing in something somewhere already existed?
But in all fairness, no I dont think we will be getting a specific new map on the first patch. I would lose serious respect for Anet if we did, no good story gives you anything in the beginning other then teases. I fully expect a revamped wildland or at the very most a new small section added to wildlands that will lead to magumma like some are thinking. Really though, that wouldnt make much sense, just redesign the map.
Where would u place that new chunk of small section if you were anet? :P
Those who feel like trolling will just simply be ignored
S2 in 2 days
I just think it’s art of either the square area in the bottom corner of Brisban that isn’t open or the outside of the portal into the new zone. Either we get the corner of Brisban and some story with a zone in 2 weeks or we get it all with a zone on Tuesday. All I know is if we don’t get a zone added into the game on Tuesday Anet deserves to be slapped upside the head for doing nothing the last 2 months.
That sqaure makes sense
If anyone ACTUALLY hears something thats factually backed up i have no problem with it, YOU sir is trying to troll and thats not needed in this thread either i was polite about it so go derail someone elses thread
Anyways back to it shall we, can anyone figure out where the art could actially be respresenting in brisban? Ive never watched the vid of jumping into vandel so i dont know much about the portal inside could the 2 portals be the same?
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Since when was a screenshot of the official gw2 tumblr speculation? Lol im stating that so many threads are spammed with “i heards” but when asked for linked proof of anet having anything to do with it the “i heards” cant ever back up what they heard soreading rumors with zero truth to them…. Truth is any concept art anet is providing us is tagged under brisban
Please dont post “i heard”s on my thread unless you provide a LEGIT link to back it up thank you!
Just went back and realized the other 2 are also tagged as brisban…. I myself thought we’d see maguuma in all its glory but all the concept art are pointing to a edited brisban like the many edits they did to LA im almost positive they are doing the same thing to brisban that they did to lions arch, im not really against it… But id much rather have the ability to explore maguuma, i’ve always questioned if anet had a big enough team to actually add a new map (theres a lack of expansions for a reason) wish anet could speak up on what they can and cant deliever so that we are on the same level with them in what we really want to see in the game. IE: if they say they dont have the resources for a brand spanking new entire map atm we (the player base) will be able to voice our other wants. Unlike a company like lets say for example Blizzard, Anet is VERY much limited on what they can do due to the size of the team.
Anet, just how big of a limit is it? Will we MAYBE see new zones in the future, or should we dream smaller and work with yall to make what we already have even better than what it currently is??? Would LOVE an answer no matter how simple it is!!!!