Guild Wars 2

Did HoT bring new ways to spend it?

rapthorne.7345:

What would the point be in having an elite specialisation if it was just all open and available immediately.

what ever happened to ‘play the game because it’s FUN’ ?

Condi thief & staff has No point, IMO. No synergy with DD.
Condi thief is… mediocre / not wanted in groups.

Slim chance that this will change, again IMO.

FUN!
isn’t it FUN guys?!

The one to Rule.2593:

i’m confused on how that’s an eastern mentality

I was referring to asian grinding mmos, maybe it was not the best way to express myself

For one that has 1-2 hours / day, often fragmented, it seams the game has changed to a more eastern mentality: more farming, less rewards, harder to achieve something.
What do you think?

yep, times have changed.

What I most enjoy is playing a venom share (condi) Thief.
No place for me in the current PvE (dungeons / fractals).
Will HoT change this? I doubt it.
I shall re-roll to something that’s ‘wanted’ in the future ‘meta’ to be able to get a raid spot

not much love for Thief in this thread is there)

TheFrighteningFrenchFry.3275:

2 Chrono
2 PS warriors
2 Heralds
4 Condition damage druids

yeah this is MUCH better than what dungeons ask for now:
2 Eles
1 PS War
1 Guard
1 Thief

/s

I still hope sinister thief will become a… thing…

not daredevil.

I don’t think it will be fine and dandy.
Now Dungeons lfgs are like this: 2 eles, 1 thief, 1 guard, 1 PS war.

Do you really think the ‘meta’ choices will be gone? after we’ve seen sinister engi and other things?

Freedom of choice for profession is pretty much gone, if you want a spot in a raid group.
Will you compete with that 1 druid? with that 1 tank?
same old crap, more ascended gear required.

:/

one with a working search function?

can confirm:
after 3x Illusionary Duelists I cast sword #2 =>
2x Illusionary Duelists and 1 clone.

Zenith has got it: The mesmer works in PvE only because of the utility it brings.
You can crunch numbers all day, but at the end out DPS will still be crap compared to… well anything really.
We bring condi clear, reflect, other goodies. The damage we output is a marginal gain for the party.

sam.4681:

I’m just curious what can a thief do in a raids? i guess thiefs could’nt survive an AoE attack? it is the thief dps good enough in raids?

Superb?…

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3nu0ez/pve_venom_share_thief_why_is_it_bad/

@AlphatheWhite
so when I’m in a 5man party, even if my dps is kitten, if I give them Alacrity, the total damage output would be greater than a good 5man without Alacrity?

Strategist.6132:

the damage is still a bit too much over the top

only a bit

Auesis I see you have two condi-based utilities on your bar, could you give us more details about your build / focus?
thx

I’m still trying to figure out why would I want to use Staff and where?
When would staff be better than S/P or than D/D?
Or where would I use it as a secondary weapon in the place of SB?

That being said, so far Thief has provided three things in a party: good dps, blinds and stealth.

For DPS I think the Revenant / Ele and even Reaper are better choices and less squishy than us.
Blinds and stealth, I don’t know how useful they will prove for raids, but maybe they will still be needed for dungeons.

why Reaper? it still does not offer much in terms of party support, or?
I understand that it has really strong damage dealing skills but what about everything else the necro was missing until now?

Dungeons & Raids, open pve and so on.
What looks good in your opinion?

where can I find the rotation better described than in the youtube notes?

apharma.3741:

you’re going to be a buff bot nothing more.

:(

like the ESL commentator said:
“ressing thiefs exploding left and right”
:)

healing power
venom share
condi build
more survability, more party support?

Arnath.2319:

Druid is insanely over powered and will be mandatory in all game modes

okay

My hope is still there believe me, I mean just like the Ice Bow nerf, maybe our hopes will eventually be palpable.
but for now war/mesmer/etc are looking better… for me personally.

I am not one of the ‘dedicated’ players who sticks to a profession ‘through thick and thin’ because they played it since launch or whatever. I just want to have the best experience possible in the 1-2 hours that I can GW2.

I am very disappointed by strange (IMO) decisions similar to: ’let’s buff P/P so that people will love it! +20% DMG!’. It just looks silly/clueless IMO.

So in staid of getting kittened at such decisions I will chill and move on.

Shalien.9018:

Let’s hope he’s the secretly-implements-what-the-community-actually-wants dev.

/s ?

Paulytnz.7619:

Anets way of saying “now everyone will want to include them!”

so you think people will Want rangers in dungeons / fractals / raids Because they can Heal?

finally rangers will be wanted in dungeons!
/s

I only play it in PvE (a few pug dungeons / day) but I like the gameplay / fluidity.
It’s pretty straight forward and easy to find a party (unlike with ranger/necro).

as a casual I can’t play how I want: I enjoy condition builds and I want to run 2-3 dungeons / day.
Can I join with a condi ranger? no, I usually get insta kicked.
Condi thief? no, it’s pretty bad and cannot kill objects fast enough.

Outside of the META there are not many options available for a player that wants to pug.

lately most groups ask for 2x ele anyway, so yeah… balance all the way.

engi is currently the most ‘spammy’ profession, and it’s not something I enjoy.
I doubt that scrapper will be different.

Zero Day.2594:

Due to our high mobility, we’re really good at getting between the trade post and the bank. So I think a thief is well suited for this role.

funny and sad at the same time

but why was it removed?
it was considered unbalanced or?

I only pvp with Guardian and Necro…
When on guard bunker I ignore them and on guard condi burn I hunt then because they drop Fast.
On Necro it’s also easy, and it will be Much Much Much easier once the HoT will come… it’s… urgh….
I don’t think the pvp thief players realize for now how dangerous the necro will be in HoT.

Ricochet was OP and P/P was dominating everything else, that’s why it was removed?

regarding the venom share build, I followed it a bit on metabattle, but then it was removed from ‘testing’ and it did not make it to workable builds.

from my limited experience, I would not spec for it because I always pug for dungeons (the easy short ones) and I don’t want to not be able to kill ‘structures’ or non-monsters (again, I am not sure if it’s a valid argument or not)…

people keep saying blinds, but in most cases how often does a blind field stay on the ground before it’s over-written by a guardian / ele / etc?

good luck vs reapers once HoT hits.

Saint Jabberwocky.5098:

After two days of playing the Revenant my thief was retired.

this makes me sad.
because it’s exactly how I feel.

KngOfTheWorldMB.2634:

My PP works just fine.

you get plenty of kills do you?

interesting how they manage to kitten up even the PvP which people think it’s the ‘core’ of GW2

Serious Thought.5394:

P/P is now better performed by warrior

wait, wars have a range dps spec?… or are you talking about SPvP?

After HoT lands

what, do you mean you are not motivated to pre-order HoT?…

I waste 35 mins yesterday with this kitten.
I will not make the same mistake again.