Guild Wars 2

penelopehannibal.8947:

unicorngirl.1487:

Ven Zehn.6573:

Honestly though, I think Personal Pony sounds a lot more offensive than Stalker lol, like “Hey, I’ll be your pony, baby….”

And I don’t consider stalker offensive at all, maybe you killed someone in pvp n they reported you?

This basically, a friend had two of his characters’ names changed because he upset a group of exploit farmers by completing an event properly. The day after dozens of threats of “mass reports” he was forced to change two of his characters’ names.

It seems clear that either Anet:

a) bow to community pressure and ignore their own rules
b) only follow their own rules sporadically, i.e some people get punished and others don’t
c) hold grudges against certain individuals or hold biases

One of the above is true, if not all. Honestly, the way the game is policed is absolutely abysmal.

Except ArenaNet don’t make moderator decisions based on ‘mass reports’. They will act on a case by case basis, whether the user has been reported once, or 1,000 times. If someone’s name was against the rules, they would have been forced to change the name even if it was just one report.

That’s just what they say, though, isn’kitten Lots of people have had experiences that would indicate they do make decisions based on mass reports.

They also said recently (or rather “Proheals” did) that they would barely be changing anyone’s name now, no matter how offensive. Yet they changed the OP’s name which isn’t even remotely offensive. LOL!

Ven Zehn.6573:

Honestly though, I think Personal Pony sounds a lot more offensive than Stalker lol, like “Hey, I’ll be your pony, baby….”

And I don’t consider stalker offensive at all, maybe you killed someone in pvp n they reported you?

This basically, a friend had two of his characters’ names changed because he upset a group of exploit farmers by completing an event properly. The day after dozens of threats of “mass reports” he was forced to change two of his characters’ names.

It seems clear that either Anet:

a) bow to community pressure and ignore their own rules
b) only follow their own rules sporadically, i.e some people get punished and others don’t
c) hold grudges against certain individuals or hold biases

One of the above is true, if not all. Honestly, the way the game is policed is absolutely abysmal.

Dear OP, you’re not Lord of the Game. You don’t get to decide who can and can’t enter a map just because you and or guild don’t like them.

Miss Lana.5276:

SkullProX.7083:

Evans.6347:

Out of curiosity, what were you going for?

Well i tried many names, characters from books i read with cool names

Stop right there. That’s your problem right off the bat.

This is an MMO – a massive multiplayer online game (millions of copies have sold worldwide). There will be people who have taken the name from your favourite book/movie/tv show series, and yes there will also be people who have rip-offs of the name too. Misspellings, accents, you name it.

Solution – be creative and original with your names instead of using something that about a thousand other people will have thought of as well. This game has been out for almost 3 years. Of course that character’s name will be taken.

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As to having apostrophes and lower case middle names (like Vincent van Gogh or Mippa the Grand, for instance), I do agree we should be given these as options.

The real problem here is that names aren’t server specific, like in proper MMOs.

dietzero.3514:

Please stop pretending EotM is anything but PvE.

It’s WvW. Please stop misusing a WvW area. Thanks!

hannah mee.7925:

unicorngirl.1487:

Veeber.3192:

This is the only information in their Legal Documentation I could find about match manipulation.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-conduct-breaches-outcomes/:

Engaging in PvP match manipulation, disrupting a PvP match by not actively playing in good faith, or any other form of PvP griefing, exploitation, or abus.e

No other mention apart from PvP.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

22. While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.

No other mention apart from PvP.

WvW is PvP… it doesn’t say “sPvP” does it?

Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder.

Again, it’s about being well read into the ToS – how exactly is organizing ktrains for all 3 sides manipulating a match outcome? You’re doing yourself no favors by throwing out contrivances against these people.

You must be trolling…

Veeber.3192:

This is the only information in their Legal Documentation I could find about match manipulation.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-conduct-breaches-outcomes/:

Engaging in PvP match manipulation, disrupting a PvP match by not actively playing in good faith, or any other form of PvP griefing, exploitation, or abus.e

No other mention apart from PvP.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

22. While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.

No other mention apart from PvP.

WvW is PvP… it doesn’t say “sPvP” does it?

hannah mee.7925:

Banbot should be reported for impersonating a staff member.

As far as your situation goes, OP – don’t worry; even if you were running a “rigged” EotM match, it’s not against the ToS. People who say it’s against the ToS aren’t very well read on the ToS.

Who did he/she impersonate?

I think you should read the ToS yourself, since you seem to be unaware that it IS against the rules to fix matches.

We’re not talking about two sides ganging up on the third team, this is a guild attempting to control all three sides at once to avoid fighting and/or farm each other… and harassing people who don’t want to fix matches like they do.

goldenwing.8473:

1. called “ban” bot.
2. has said “we’ve received reports.”
3.“we will be forced to investigate”
4. “we will be forced to take action against your account”

Combined, all of these are impersonating statements. Only ANet is capable of taking action against an account.

However, that’s not up to us to decide. Support needs to know.

Take action = report the OP to ANet for match manipulation.

“Impersonating statements” really? Impersonating someone = pretending to be them, e.g making a character called “Arena Net Staff” or saying “Hello, I am Jeff from Arena Net.” If someone chooses to infer something from something someone else says, that’s their problem. I’m guessing the OP inferred “we” to mean “Arena Net” because he’s broken the rules and is afraid of being caught. If he was innocent, he wouldn’t have made this thread, he’d have just replied “lol” or something.

goldenwing.8473:

NightWalker.1405:

I don’t see anywhere on there where they say they are anet. Looks like a roleplayer.

Use of the word “we” implies ANet; hence implied impersonation.

Actually, I was talking about my guild, hence the “we” – I guess he must be paranoid because he’s actually guilty of match fixing and bag farming.

adika.1809:

hello, i’ll start to the point, i was running eotm(overflow) as frostreach, my zerg was lead by someone nick named kimberly blabla, after she capped tytone she was asking for another tag to replace, because of no one tagged up i decided to tag up and lead my zerg to statuary then to eastern altar gate( i decided that because i see orange sword at BL keep, or let me say OG was there) and when my zerg was ramming the gate the OG zerg not finished their job at BL keep but they just run toward my zerg and wiped my zerg, and after that when i was about to continue my run from FR zone i got whispered by someone(maybe gw2 staff) he has name ‘Banbot’ he said that i was reported for doing a setuped match there…

my fact :
- im not in any voice chat
- my guild tag the time i represent was only me as a member( this is my private tag )
- im grouping with random FR dudes
- im not whispering anyone while im tagging up that time

thank you for that random dude who reported me,
i hope if that ‘Banbot’ guy is real staff and i’m not guilty the one that reported me should punished

sorry for the bad english

thank you
Walking Bag

SS attached

You’ve admitted leading zergs to be farmed by enemy zergs in the past… and you have the gall to post this?

Stage 1: People find a way to exploit the game.

Stage 2: Other players complete the event the exploiters were exploiting.

Stage 3: Exploiters get REALLY ANGRY at the normal players, and start abusing and harassing them in mapchat and whispers.

Stage 4: ArenaNet intervenes by patching the event so it can no longer be exploited.

Stage 5 (current stage): Exploiters continue to whine instead of accepting that they got off lightly (no bans) and moving on.

Vayne.8563:

Disingenuous post is disingenuous. This would never be released in this game. However asking for it to be released highlights the farmer problem that exists in this game. Farmers are not better than other people. They’re not more entitled than other people. And they don’t get to decide how to play the game.

Events were made by Anet to be completed. If you decide you want to farm them, and no one else shows up who wants to complete them all well and good.

But the second someone shows up who wants to play the game as intended,. and you try to stop them, you’re the troll.

You should see what they’ve been doing to try and stop a certain event in Cursed Shore from being completed by players.

Their tactics include: standing next to the capture circle to scale up all the monsters, or even rounding up monsters and pulling them into the circle to try and wipe the defenders. Then – and this is the best part – these people call the defenders “trolls” or “griefers” – I mean, really?

Ilthuain.5634:

300g per color seems completely reasonable. An item like this should be expensive, otherwise every joker ends up with it.

…and 300g is a drop in a the bucket for large WvW guilds. I have more than 300g in my account now, and I’m in a tiny RP guild. It’s really not much if you prioritize it, it’s only an obscene pay-wall if it wasn’t that important to you in the first place (which means you shouldn’t have it).

Why do people like you exist?

Sauzo.6821:

You are not using your time efficiently. I have 4250 hours played and I have made 6 legendaries, 2 full ascended armor sets(heavy and light), 2 full sets of ascended trinkets and filled in the gaps of my non legendaries with ascended weapons. Also have all available crafts to 500 minus leatherworker. And yeah pvping is not a way to get rich. If you had pve’d like I do, you probably could have made all this easily too.

Efficiently? Isn’t this a game, not a job?

heatherlea.7186:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mBkW2PM0sa

This is where they circumvent where you can’t join people who are in different colors than your own. Also they discuss where a few members of their zerg tagged up (But changed guild rep) to lead the zerg to legendary defenders to troll them.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0prC9HoVQqI More discussion of how to lead your zerg to wipe to legendary defenders, and if they keep doing it people will stop following them.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RUbUXk07Ov Here is where they discuss wiping the zerg because a commander they don’t like is running their side.

This is exactly the sort of thing that ruins Edge of the Mists. Interesting discussion going on in reddit about the antics of some of these griefers:

http://redd.it/2b5uib

a t s e.9614:

SaintSnow.6593:

From a pvp perspective, just play whatever class that appeals to you. As multi class user, I played warrior since beta and that’s just who I am. I can play any other class but I always go back to it. As for it being more simple? It all depends on your opponents really. I find playing ele, engi, theif or Mesmer really easy as well even though they are considered the “high skill cap classes”. It’s all just a different play style really. More buttons doesn’t mean more skill in my opinion.

Its not the buttons but the passive mechanics.

Elementalist is the highest skillcap because the defenses come from active play and the damage is hard to land. You can’t spam autoattacks and AoE on ele.

Second one is thief, assuming we are talking about spvp meta builds and not some random trash with 30 pts in shadow arts. Basically thief is extremely squishy and can’t take many hits.

Engi and mesmer come close but they have a lot of passive damage from the AI or AoE spam.

The other classes are easy because they have either a lot of passive defenses or passive damage or even both > spirit ranger , MM necro…

So it’s not the buttons.

“Random trash with 30 points in shadow arts” seriously?

I’d say the guy running around in WvW as a full zerker thief with no points in SA is the bigger noob.

Jerus.4350:

No it’s very unfortunate that some individuals resort to verbal abuse. But don’t let a few people skew your view of an entire map. There are 75 people on a map, if 5 of them are being jerks that doesn’t in any way give someone the right to ruin things for the other 70 people.

The reporting I saw last night was on the wake of someone Named very well for this thread continually training groups with adds quite intentionally griefing. Normally I assume someone training adds is just someone being unaware of what they were doing, in which case I offer to teach them how to get to bosses without bringing adds. But in this case their name made it quite clear what their intentions were.

Hiding, it’s simply “i’m taking my ball and going home” for a round. Childish, maybe, but when you deal with uncooperative people sometimes walking away is your only civil option. Like I said before, I personally wish this were the good old school PVP where I could beat them into submission, but it’s not, so being civil is all that’s really left.

Again though, the guild in question has rules, if you tell people to alt f4, you’re treated the same as someone griefing and slapped with a TS ban if they can identify you, and put on their “do not taxi” list. They try to maintain a level of respect, but again there are 75 people per map, and no matter how much they wish people would just be civil with one another, there is no way to force that. They ask nicely for people to just be quiet, if someone does start speaking up in map chat the people actually leading it kindly ask them to be quiet in TS. But 50+ people on average is a lot of cats to herd, that’s why personally I’m so happy these folks are willing to do it, and why I’m thankful to them and feel it’s only fair that the other side of the story be said as well.

At this point I don’t believe the griefers will stop, I don’t believe they have any grasp of ethical behavior. The fact that some of them act as if they are on some moral high ground is just laughable. SO I’ve said what i wanted to say, and you can take it or leave it. I’d invite you to actually join one of the teamspeaks and get involved in that community and judge for yourself instead of taking the word of someone who’s been questioned here as simply fact.

Somebody in your TS said they wanted to go to my house and “beat the **** out of me” last night. I’ve also had members of your guild spamming me with group invites, abuse and threats.

That’s why I’m “taking the moral high ground” – I’m doing nothing wrong, but you guys are breaking various rules repeatedly, just because someone is playing the game in a different way to you.

Maugrem.7608:

Azhure.1857:

How is unicorngirl a troll?

This user is the person that was trolling our instance and following us to new instances with the expressed purpose of making us fail our gold runs. The group ended up disbanding after 5 or 6 attempts. Using a Warrior by the name of The Greefer in a fake TTS guild tag.

Before the user denies it I already sent screenshots of map chat and global emotes to Anet so let’s see what happens.

Of me doing what, exactly? Killing monsters? I thought that was the point of the game…

Most of you will be aware that certain guilds organize to run gold boss blitz events. You may also be aware that people can be “taxied” into a map by their friends, or by random players who may charge for the privilege.
This is where things started to go wrong. Certain guilds are attempting to drive players out of maps in order to get all of their friends in. They do this in several ways:
Firstly, they’ll let the event fail deliberately. They’ll do this by suddenly disappearing from the bosses, making sure several groups suddenly don’t have enough coverage.
Then they’ll stand in certain parts of the map (e.g on top of the burning tower by Sparcus or the pirate ship where Wiggin spawns). This serves two purposes: it hides them from the view of most people, who think they’ve left. It also upscales the boss they’re standing above.
If people stay in the map, the offenders will then troll mapchat, either by lying “hell with this im leaving” or being offensive to those who remain.
As a last resort, they’ll try to get everybody to REPORT innocent players who just happen to be in their map. The level of abuse rises (I witnessed some really nasty stuff directed at people who were just minding their own business) in an attempt to drive away those “evil PUGs”.
I can’t print some of the things they’ve said here. Obviously I’ve reported these people in the game, but I wanted to make sure the community is aware of this in general.
I’ve already had 4 separate people whispering me telling me they’re quitting the game because of the abuse levelled at them by one particular guild employing these tactics. I’m sure they aren’t the only ones. And for what? So they can farm a (somewhat easy, let’s be honest) open world zone in which all players are supposedly welcome?
If Anet didn’t want “uplevels” to go to the Crown Pavilion, they wouldn’t have scaled people to 80. If Anet wanted guilds to monopolize CP instances, they would have created guild instances, or a similar function.
I just hope more people don’t leave over this, and I hope that these guilds are held accountable for their actions.

Thanks for the replies – is withdraw necessary for an S/D build? I’m so used to using HiS that I miss it when it’s not on my toolbar.

Also, I was under the impression that S/D builds tended to be a bit tankier, but most seem to be full zerk?

Hiya, I’m looking for a decent S/D roaming spec, preferably with D/P too. I’ll be duoing a lot with a PU mesmer, so anything that syncs well with mesmers would be great.

I’ve got two other thieves: P/D and D/D so I have a decent idea of the class, but I’ve not really used sword much.

Has anyone roamed in WvW with S/D?

The only thing I really can’t do without is the 25% speed – either from SoS or runes, so if anyone has a spec with that worked into it, that would be great!

Thanks.

Carpboy.7145:

I have a trolly build in my sig. Never die while trolling mini zergs

I noticed your thread is 9 months old. Do you still use the same build, or did you need to tweak it at all?

insanemaniac.2456:

try settler gear with a bit of rabid for IP procs

Surely dire/rabid would be better?

Hiya. I’m looking for a roaming/trolling/annoying build for WvW. Ideally something based around condi with high survivability (duoing with a PU mesmer) that can win 1v3 or more. I’ve met enemy engineers running similar builds to what I’m looking for, who hit very hard and were able to kite small groups with ease.

I’ve been experimenting in sPvP with builds (which isn’t the same as WvW granted, but it’s the closest I can get) but I haven’t found anything I like yet.

Any input kindly appreciated

anzenketh.3759:

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Get the meta fast. This place will be a ghost town by Friday.

This event was built for the Chinese in order to introduce skins from previous LS stuff that we already have. Too bad Anet can’t/won’t just come out and say so.

Except…. They have. Many times.

As part of the celebration of our launch in China, we’re holding an in-game festival that brings back some of the best-loved Living World content!

Must mostly they mentioned that during the china Beta Festival.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/25iqrv/i_attended_the_gw2_china_beta_festival_heres_some/

I think a dev mentioned it on the forums too.

I for one am glad they did it and made it available for US/EU. I was able to get the living story items I missed due to school.

I wonder how long they’ll continue to support US/EU Guild Wars 2.

This is hilarious. Finally, people will stop sending my guildies death threats for daring to kill a monster in a game.

Xytl.8659:

There is now a Bladeshard vendor in the event areas, you can buy masterwork loot boxes with it. All it has done is made anyone who has a few stacks of shards into the biggest crybabies i’ve ever seen. All i’ve seen today is “I thought it was supposed to be something valuable.”

You got something valuable, an ascended back item, one of the best looking ones in the game, yet some people still expect more from an old event item. Meanwhile people like me who picked up the game at the very end of Scarlett’s living world story just today unlocked the Watchwork Node that lets you collect the sprockets and shards to make our own blade packs.

Rant aside, Arenanet didn’t forget, but everyone keeps whining that they don’t get more out of an item that you don’t really need anymore.

Erm, maybe because many people had thousands upon thousands of these useless shards, and all they can be traded for now is junk? We should be able to trade a stack of 250 for 250 festival tokens, at the least.

Fluffball.8307:

unicorngirl.1487:

People actually care about dungeons?

People actually care about whatever it is you find fun? That’s stupid. Your opinions are stupid.

Sorry to inform you, but far more people play WvW and PvP than dungeons. And ranger is fine in both of those.

People actually care about dungeons?

Tibstrike.2974:

How do you know they are farming bloodlust stomps? Seems like a big jump to make considering the possible score contribution is really small.

They could just be guildies who want to kill eachother and are in a cross-server guild. Or some of them transferred a while back and now are fighting for fun.

And as to them jumping you with the help of their guildie, you are kinda out of luck. For all you know they were coming to kill the friendly version and you were in their way.

Not everyone cheats. So stop assuming people are out to get you.

Why do people DEFEND this kind of behaviour?

In other MMOs like DAOC or WAR these people would have their accounts terminated. In GW2 people stick up for xrealmers?

Skady.5916:

this thread even funnier than the previous one.

most people come to EOTM to level alts / farm WXP – this is just a simple fact.

1. the fastest way of grinding WXP is to flip objectives. Even for OG – you can kill FR/BL 2-3 times and they stop dropping WXP for you. Let em flip your corner, port back and you get kitten load of WXP right at your waypoint

2. guilds who “farm bags” just bring their names into discredit. its quite obvious that pug zerg without comms can do nothing about semi-pug zerg with comms even on even numbers. people who do that might be just mad cause of season place #4 (hi BG!) or smth else. go do GvG if you want “fights”

3. while EOTM might be good for farming kills for Ultimate Dominator most pugs are already familiar with what guild groups hunting them down can do – so they just leave map after a few wipes. New pugs join to produce new bags

Sounds like somebody got farmed in EOTM.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Lol, I was trying to give some helpful advice until I checked back on the thread to see OP throwing a tantrum.
It’s all coming together… You’re not used to not getting your way so you’re throwing a fit over it. Not everyone has to enjoy what you enjoy. As I’ve said in my initial post, some people like karmatraining, EOTM is the best place to do that, group wiping karmatrains in EOTM is actually a lot more pathetic than the karmatrain itself.. There’s no challenge, no reward and I can’t see it being very fun for any longer than an hour. All you’re doing is griefing people. Go to a real borderland and challenge yourselves against people who actually want to fight instead of being a pest…

You are playing the game WRONG. Sick of entitled people like you. You call it griefing to play the game the way it was intended? People like you aren’t just destroying MMOs, you’re destroying society.

Niko Stark.8932:

unicorngirl.1487:

I find it pathetic that some commanders coordinate with the enemy to make sure there are no fights between zergs. Really, really pathetic.

I’ve done that before and so far I heard no complaints from the players in my squad.

Yeah? I consider it cheating, and you should be banned for it. In other MMOs it’s a bannable offence.

And as for “hunting people down” you’re welcome to try, but my guild would destroy yours in a fair fight.

Tarnished Coast knows that their pathetic “champ train” is entirely at the whim of a set group of players. My guild for example can destroy it when we feel like

Breaking the train is the only way to get rid of the entitled, abusive and utterly obnoxious children who shout down any opposition to their mindless autoattack spamcircles.

I find it pathetic that some commanders coordinate with the enemy to make sure there are no fights between zergs. Really, really pathetic.

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

I never understood this attitude of getting joy out of ruining other peoples’ plan with no gain to you.

EotM is not WvW proper. Why is it on the WvW tab? Because it’s related to it more than to PvP or PvE. Just like Obsidian Sanctum is, and that is not WvW proper, either. Think a bit before posting, will you?

People karma train in EotM because it is rewarding and anything else is pointless. This was intended as such because it removes players from other, more important, areas where they were damaging the game (Queensdale champ trains being bad for new players and WvW farmers and uplevels being extremly bad for WvW).

If you and your guild participate/lead defense activities in EotM, then I am sorry, but everyone who is whispering you telling you all sorts of nasty stuff is right. Not to mention that beating up cripples (aka uplevels, like most ktrainers are) is not only not worth bragging about, but quite shameful. It also teaches you nothing. You think it will be the same when doing WvW proper against serious opponents? Man, I would want to see the look on your face when you and your heroic guild go there with this attitude.)

On a side note, if you do not care for PvE and want to level faster, either do PvP for some loot and the Tomes of Knowledge (one level each) from the tracks, or (oh, the irony!) do EotM karmatrain for quick levels and WXP. But could you do the latter? I mean, doesn’t it fall short of your “code”?…

Just because you’re playing the game wrong, it doesn’t mean we all should.

I’ll laugh so much when Anet decide to do something about EOTM Ktrains. In the meantime my guild leader says he’s going to start messing with the Ktrain on a daily basis and record it for our amusement… should be fun!

Garrisyl.7402:

Seriously guys, what did you expect? Getting a full arah set for 10 hours of casual pvp’ing?

Getting that in PvE takes 1380 tokens. You get 60 per run per path once a day, else it’s 20. Running one path can take anything from 1-4 hours, depending on the path and how routinized you are.

So we’re talking 23 multi-hour runs of the hardest dungeon in the game, that you guys want to substitute with 10 hours of pvp?

I know whining and feeling disadvantaged is natural behavior for many pvp-’ers, but gimme a break.

It takes a lot longer to get the end of track “reward” unless you’re running tournaments with an organised team. One piece of armour for that amount of time and effort is not acceptable.